Anyway to update prl without sense? - EVO Shift 4G General

Anyway to update prl without sense? and whats the latest prl out?

Nope
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Look for a thread in Hero(cdma) forums by a guy named Kuyoko he used Qpst but IMO would be easier to use a sense nandroid. Sorry i'd link it but am workin.
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Thanks, guess I will just nand my old mikmik nand later to night and run the new prl update.

Well if you feel up to it heres the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162091
It's a good guide with pics
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Will take a look, thanks.

mind if i ask how this method worked out for you? i don't want to do a nandroid because it doesn't seem like cm backs up my ext partition, and it's quite a hassle restoring stuff.
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finalhit said:
mind if i ask how this method worked out for you? i don't want to do a nandroid because it doesn't seem like cm backs up my ext partition, and it's quite a hassle restoring stuff.
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Ended up not doing it just nand to an old mikg1.4 backup

finalhit said:
mind if i ask how this method worked out for you? i don't want to do a nandroid because it doesn't seem like cm backs up my ext partition, and it's quite a hassle restoring stuff.
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Have you tried just rebooting after a restore? I found CWM would restore my sd-ext but wouldn't mount it the first time. If I rebooted it'd be fine. Or try just going into backups and doing an advanced restore of just your sd-ext partition.
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i did, and it's hit or miss. rebooting it several times seems to get it eventually mount, but after my last bout when i decided to leave the CM7 setup to try the new sense3.0 (didn't like it), when i tried to go back, i couldn't get it mount at all. later i found out, it's possibly my version of cm7 nightly.
it was too late though, since i panicked, and ended up carelessly formatting my sd. (lost my Titanium backups). this is really more of a user error, than anything else, but i'm still a bit weiry of switching roms.
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Rom Manager Premium

Asked this question before but nobody answered. When using Rom Manager Premium and doing a "backup of current rom", am I to do this, then try another rom and if I do not like the new rom, do a restore backup and everything will come back just as if I had not tried the new rom at all? I mean everything. I use titanium backup pro, but it's still such a pain in the A to get everything back up and running again. I am running Trigger 3.3 beta right now and really am liking this rom and have it pretty much set up just as I want it now. Cannot see how another rom can be as good as this one, but it would be nice to try them out, and come right back when I need to without the hassles. Thanks.
So ur question is? Should u use restore backup on rom manager premium.. I do
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No. My question is, can rom manager premium put everything back like it was using restore, after a rom is wiped to try a new one, without even messing with the hassles of using titanium bacup pro.
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Yes, with the exception of your kernel. It cannot restore that.
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Im glad someone asked this question! I thought the same thing which is why I stayed with trigger, but 1 question what if I have trigger 3.0.1 and want to try a GB rom then come back is it possible with rom manager?
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gingerbread and froyo are two different monsters! so no u couldnt but any froyo rom u can!
Well, you can get it back, it's just more work, but getting to GB is more work anyway right?
Couldn't you Odin a froyo stock rom with kernal/modem, then flash the custom froyo rom again, download rom manager, put the RM backup you kept on your computer into the RM folder and then restore the previous settings?
I'm interested to hear if others have done this. I want to try a GB rom, but I like to move around a lot and Froyo roms seem like the way to go if you have an itchy flashing finger.
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Curiosity. Phone memory?

I'm just curious to know how much of your phone's memory do you use so I can see if I'm good or I can use even less than what I do use lol
I'm using 160mb/ 493mb
It seems good but I wanna know if I can go lower lol
I'm running thunderhawk 3.3. With the minamalistic black theme and I deleted some files out of the system like ringtones and things I never use
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Cm7 and all mtd roms give you close to 700mb for storage
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xopher.hunter said:
Cm7 and all mtd roms give you close to 700mb for storage
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U mean I would have something like "160mb/700mb"???????
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lilajrestnom said:
U mean I would have something like "160mb/700mb"???????
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Yup I have like 186/676mb its not quite 700 but close
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Biggoron said:
Yup I have like 186/676mb its not quite 700 but close
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Wow I didn't think mtd helped that much with memory
But I've tried cm7 and honestly didn't like it much its the little bugs that bothered me honestly but I deffinately will be going with another mtd rom like thunderhawk when it turns mtd
How come I don't ever see anything about miui like cm7..? Ppl is it really that bad?
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lilajrestnom said:
Wow I didn't think mtd helped that much with memory
But I've tried cm7 and honestly didn't like it much its the little bugs that bothered me honestly but I deffinately will be going with another mtd rom like thunderhawk when it turns mtd
How come I don't ever see anything about miui like cm7..? Ppl is it really that bad?
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Most of the bugs have been worked out since moving to mtd and miui wasn't as big because more people like cyanogenmod as apposed to miui I guess. But there's nothing wrong with my cm7 anyways the new nightly *9* and the samurai kernel bushido8 works seemlessly for me you might want to give it a try there is also cleangb on mtd.
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Tried CM7 for the third time and still not a fan. MIUI does not have 4G yet but they are working on it. I prefer converting your favorite ROM to MTD like I did with Legendary 2.1 and gaining 150MB of storage and the added stability.
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Ok now I have just onee question
If I switched to cm7 and didn't like it could I normally flash cleangb without having to odin back to stock? Cuz I'm not around a computer much and would hate to be stuck with it until I get to a computer
I've tried cm7 b4 it had 4g and 4g was one of the biggest problems I didn't like it
But I think I will try it now
And u say samurai kernel would b the best to go with it? Not shadow..?
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kennyglass123 said:
Tried CM7 for the third time and still not a fan. MIUI does not have 4G yet but they are working on it. I prefer converting your favorite ROM to MTD like I did with Legendary 2.1 and gaining 150MB of storage and the added stability.
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That's what I was thinking about doing
I use thunderhawk so I will probably convert it to mtd and use it
Just one questionn
I'm currently on thunderhawk
But if I converted it to mtd and flashed it would I have to wipe everything?
If I do have to wipe everything then would I at least b able to restore data?
And if I can't restore data then is there at least a way to sync or save my txts lol?? That's like the most important thing lol
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lilajrestnom said:
That's what I was thinking about doing
I use thunderhawk so I will probably convert it to mtd and use it
Just one questionn
I'm currently on thunderhawk
But if I converted it to mtd and flashed it would I have to wipe everything?
If I do have to wipe everything then would I at least b able to restore data?
And if I can't restore data then is there at least a way to sync or save my txts lol?? That's like the most important thing lol
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You can but there's a process you need to replace the ext4 or rfs in the backup to yaffs2
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lilajrestnom said:
Ok now I have just onee question
If I switched to cm7 and didn't like it could I normally flash cleangb without having to odin back to stock? Cuz I'm not around a computer much and would hate to be stuck with it until I get to a computer
I've tried cm7 b4 it had 4g and 4g was one of the biggest problems I didn't like it
But I think I will try it now
And u say samurai kernel would b the best to go with it? Not shadow..?
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You can flash anyother MTD ROM from CM7. I switch back and forth to nandroids of CM7 and MTD converted Legendary. So you can flash CleanGB MTD version and I would recommend a factory data reset before the flash since data won't work anyway.
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Biggoron said:
You can but there's a process you need to replace the ext4 or rfs in the backup to yaffs2
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Ohh I know what ur talking about I seen that thread b4 the one that said "converting nandroid backups to mtd" or something like that right? Ya I remember now thanks for the heads up
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kennyglass123 said:
You can flash anyother MTD ROM from CM7. I switch back and forth to nandroids of CM7 and MTD converted Legendary. So you can flash CleanGB MTD version and I would recommend a factory data reset before the flash since data won't work anyway.
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Ya I could do that I might as well start working with mtd since it seems everything will soon be mtd lol
I'm at work now ill flash and work on things later tonight when I get home thanks everyone
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lilajrestnom said:
U mean I would have something like "160mb/700mb"???????
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That memory already exists on your phone. But the current Samsung layout has most of it dedicated to Cache. It seems that converting this partition to data storage thus far has no ill-effects. The only thing known to be affected thus far would be an OTA update, as that extra large cache space was needed to download and prep the update.zip file.
ThunderHawk 3.4 will be MTD when I learn a little more about the MTD process and how it works. One issue I've read is that, after converting to MTD and flashing several roms, the MTD will corrupt and you'll have to restart the process from the beginning.
I have been loving my manually converted mtd thunderhawk 3.3 setup with shadow mtd-tw-v02. I gained 191mb of extra storage, and was able to check cm7 for an hour or two and restore my thawk mtd nandroid without issue. Just make sure you know what minor differences you may run across before making the jump. Glad to hear 3.4 will probably be mtd! We have some awesome devs for this device.
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RandomKing said:
That memory already exists on your phone. But the current Samsung layout has most of it dedicated to Cache. It seems that converting this partition to data storage thus far has no ill-effects. The only thing known to be affected thus far would be an OTA update, as that extra large cache space was needed to download and prep the update.zip file.
ThunderHawk 3.4 will be MTD when I learn a little more about the MTD process and how it works. One issue I've read is that, after converting to MTD and flashing several roms, the MTD will corrupt and you'll have to restart the process from the beginning.
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Well that would b amazing ill b one of the first to download it and I wouldn't personally worry about that problem cuz I wouldn't flash any other roms unless there your updates but hopefully there will b a solution to stop that corruption but ill be waiting for your 3.4
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How to correctly nand?

Ive been rooted for almost 2 years and always seem to mess up and have to reflash my rom everytime I switch to sense back to reloaded, so whats the right way to get everything the same and keep all my data from a2sd
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jrollercoasters said:
Ive been rooted for almost 2 years and always seem to mess up and have to reflash my rom everytime I switch to sense back to reloaded, so whats the right way to get everything the same and keep all my data from a2sd
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Yes what's is the right way
I guess no one cares..
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Well... When you make a nand, backup the SD ext for that Rom. You can't keep apps when switching from sense to reloaded since, obviously, sense stuff wont work with aosp. Also, before restoring, wipe SD ext and all that stuff. Not sure if it does anything, but i always do that before banding back to a rom
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bennyboy78 said:
Well... When you make a nand, backup the SD ext for that Rom. You can't keep apps when switching from sense to reloaded since, obviously, sense stuff wont work with aosp. Also, before restoring, wipe SD ext and all that stuff. Not sure if it does anything, but i always do that before banding back to a rom
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Well I'm going aosp to sense back to aosp
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jrollercoasters said:
Ive been rooted for almost 2 years and always seem to mess up and have to reflash my rom everytime I switch to sense back to reloaded, so whats the right way to get everything the same and keep all my data from a2sd
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What i do is,when i install a new rom,i set everything up,no tweaks and themes yet,just the settings and gmail,crap like that,i update my apps and then i nandroid everything,i even do compression,takes up less space,then i start adding tweaks,one by one,then i nand again and delete the old one,i do this procedure,until i have my rom where i want it.
When you do a nand leave the top three or whatever checked, check SD ext., and uncheck android secure. The next time you restore that nand it will be as you left it before you flash.
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Backup everything except cache if you want to restore to exactly the same thing you have when you run the backup
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Diablo67 said:
What i do is,when i install a new rom,i set everything up,no tweaks and themes yet,just the settings and gmail,crap like that,i update my apps and then i nandroid everything,i even do compression,takes up less space,then i start adding tweaks,one by one,then i nand again and delete the old one,i do this procedure,until i have my rom where i want it.
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Same here. nand a basic setup and a complete setup
If you don't back up .android make sure you have moved all apps to the phone or those apps won't work on restore. I have been told you don't need to wipe before a restore but I always do.
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jlmancuso said:
If you don't back up .android make sure you have moved all apps to the phone or those apps won't work on restore. I have been told you don't need to wipe before a restore but I always do.
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Well i'm not sure who told you that,but if you dont wipe before a restore,theres a possibilties of having issues from the other rom.I recommend a full wipe before anything but mods,updates or Gapps.
I have heard before that the wiping scripts are built into the restore process, though I don't know how true that is. I have never wiped before a restore and have never had the slightest problem no matter what rom I'm going to or from.
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I always wipe caches and temp files on a restore. Better safe than sorry, right?

Rooted, multiple users

If I'm rooted and I have two users on my tablet and I install a ROM where I have to wipe cache and system, will the second user lose all data from apps and games like the primary user?
Thank you..
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Anyone?
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I have not got the device, it might be worth going to the Nexus 7 forums and search if a similar question has been asked there...
However if you are just flashing the ROM ontop without wiping the device, then the data should be there... Best thing to do is Nandroid Backup and then test and find out yourself . If it has weird outcomes then restore
springy said:
I have not got the device, it might be worth going to the Nexus 7 forums and search if a similar question has been asked there...
However if you are just flashing the ROM ontop without wiping the device, then the data should be there... Best thing to do is Nandroid Backup and then test and find out yourself . If it has weird outcomes then restore
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I will definitely do a nandroid but the second user its not rooted. I have titanium backup installed but it only works for the rooted user. Thanks for the suggestion about going to nexus 7 forum. I will try that...
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tntsjp said:
I will definitely do a nandroid but the second user its not rooted. I have titanium backup installed but it only works for the rooted user. Thanks for the suggestion about going to nexus 7 forum. I will try that...
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Please report back with your findings, TiBackup only backs up my main account and i'm curious
WishinItWas said:
Please report back with your findings, TiBackup only backs up my main account and i'm curious
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I'm going to do more research before I take the plunge since my second user will kill me if I lose his game data
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Twrp rom backup Q

I use Twrp and I have 2 back ups so far. One being the stock TW rom and another being my customized debloated TW rom. I went to create a back up and it failed due to lack of space. I have it set to back up to the 16gb SD card which has plenty of space but then I saw it was going to back up the data(okay that's fine) but it states theres 18635mb of data. Where is all that data!? And where can I remove whatever is taking up that much space. I'm assuming it's from my 2 backups but I can't seem to find it (due to I swear they are on the SD card already) so I'm confused to how it's trying to backup that much data . Thanks in advance!
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Get away from twrp its garbage for this device. I've always loved twrp on other devices but not this one. My advice would be restore you stock stable ROM. Format your internal & external SD card. Flash cwm touch 6.2 or philz custom cwm . backup with cwm . then that should fix your issues. Make sure your on the stock ROM before deleting any files though.
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I'm confused when you say format the internal and external SD. Wouldn't that delete everything off of both? Not sure if maybe I misunderstand what it means to format
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godschildren said:
I'm confused when you say format the internal and external SD. Wouldn't that delete everything off of both? Not sure if maybe I misunderstand what it means to format
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Yes that is what he means so back up your files
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Okay thank you romantic and thank you for your reply on the wicked thread
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TWRP. WORKS just fine. Use the 2.5.0.2 version cause the other versions do have many issues. Been using 2.5.0.2,since the very beginning, snd have had no issues what so ever. So I wouldn't call it garbage.
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mattie_49 said:
Get away from twrp its garbage for this device. I've always loved twrp on other devices but not this one. My advice would be restore you stock stable ROM. Format your internal & external SD card. Flash cwm touch 6.2 or philz custom cwm . backup with cwm . then that should fix your issues. Make sure your on the stock ROM before deleting any files though.
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TWRP 2.5.0.2 is rock solid. Just avoid 2.6.0.0 and you'll be fine.
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Maybe that was my problem then I used the latest that goo-im installs and it was 2.6 . Don't get it twisted like my post says I love twrp. Above and beyond any cwm or custom recovery its quick and does the job perfect. Does anyone have a flashable 2.5.0.2 handy?
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Updated twrp to 2.6.1.0.. Very nice so far no more staying on blue welcome screen for 20 min.
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mattie_49 said:
Updated twrp to 2.6.1.0.. Very nice so far no more staying on blue welcome screen for 20 min.
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The blue screen Lol scared me the first time downloading a nightly then I'll update ..fingers crossed
Backup and restore works as you would expect it to work fast. Gonna try and see if the format data still makes data unmountable. As it did before . Gonna wait till I get home near PC with Odin first just in case .
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Backup and restore works as you would expect it to work fast. Gonna try and see if the format data still makes data unmountable. As it did before . Gonna wait till I get home near PC with Odin first just in case .
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Well back up and restore work awesome for me, so glad to have that team win screen go away after a couple seconds! Haven't formatted data once yet, I'm glad I haven't, all my old back ups are on my PC
Just got back up and running after formatting data and having to odin back shhheessshhh. Damn I wish they would get this running correctly. To do a clean wipe and install in my book is formatting data. Doing even with newest 2.6.1.0 bonks data partion. Thank god cwm touch is stable ( slow as molases to back up and restore) but stable.
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