[Q] Using Powered USB Speakers with Nook - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Everyone,
I appreciate the great work developers have been putting in exploring the hidden capabilities of Nook.
I am struggling with USB host now. Here is my situation:
I have a pair of Logitech USB speakers (Please google, Logitech audio Hub, since I am not allowed yet to post direct links).
These use external power and were originally being used with my notebook connecting via USB.
Now, since I do not use my laptop any more and use only NOOK, I am interested in using them with Nook.
I am currently running Nook with CM-7.1.0-RC1-encore. Is it possible to use these speakers? I read a thread about USB host and some people have mentioned using USB audio but I am not sure if they are using powered ones and I am concerned whether connecting a powered speaker may fry the USB port.
Any thoughts, experience, ideas would be appreciated.

Update to a recent nightly. There have been so many updates for USB there is no point in trying to troubleshoot the RC.

Sure, I will update to that. Any other directions to get the USB speakers working?

I read your post and decided to try it. I do not have the speakers you mentioned but do have a set of insignia usb powered speakers.
I turned on host mode and connected the speakers to the nook. Tried 3 different games and had the same results. The speakers will power up and receive a signal from the nook. They work for about 20-25 seconds then lose the signal from the nook . I have to reset host mode to reenable them.
At this time, I would recommend using powered speakers through the headphone jack or a headset. Not sure what's going on through host mode but it had me worried when I had to reset host mode 3 times.
I'll run a logcat to see what's going on in the system but it looks like a no-go for the present. I get excellent results from powered speakers through the headphone jack. Just a thought and I'll get back to you with the results of the logcat.
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Thanks a lot Moshe5368 for your response. The problem I have is that these speakers do not have 3.5 MM input and USB connection is the only possibility.
Though they are really nice speakers, I guess if this doesn't work then its time to just order another pair of speakers.
I have just ordered the USB converter today (from Micro USB to USB-F) and have not tried it with the speakers I own yet. Will test that and revert back on what I find.
BTW, the speakers I have are powered with regular power (USB connection is just for Audio signal). Do you suggest I try them? Any chance they could fry the Nook's USB port?

It is a possibility that that type speaker would work. My logcat showed (if I read it right) that since the speakers were drawing their power from the usb port (even through the usb powered hub) I exceeded the power available through the micro USB port on the nook.
I was not sure what to expect but thought that might be the case. I have a set of powered speakers from jwin that plug into the headphone jack and perform perfectly.
Let me know what your results are.
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Sure. I will keep you posted as soon my adapter arives.

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[Broke] No Audio through mini usb on 2.1

I have been using the mini usb audio adapter with my Hero since I purchased it. I use it to charge and to run audio simultaneously through my stereo. Since the 2.1 updates (both Damage and Fresh) the audio no longer works and the sound quality through the top headphone jack is mediocre. I am aware of equalizer apps but I cant stand having something plugged in to the top and bottom of my phone, it makes it horribly annoying to use the phone. I am willing to test anything and i am willing to bet this is an easy fix that probably got overlooked while building the roms.
Thank you in advance for anyone who can help.
I found this
https://review.source.android.com/#change,9780
It happened with the g1 when 1.5 came out. Would love it if someone else with a multifunction adapter and 2.1 could test to see if they have the same problem.
I thought phones with 3.5mm jacks wouldn't route audio thru the mini usb jack? When i first got my hero i tried plugging in an old HTC wired headset that connected via usb and when i plugged it in an error popped up that said something to the extent of "usb headset no longer works with phone equipped with headset jack" So i assumed it was because it seems pointless to have audio running thru usb and rca at the same time.
Re: [BUG] No Audio through mini usb on 2.1
I suppose it seems redundant but for docks and convenience it makes sense. being able to charge and run audio through the bottom was a big selling point for me.
I have used both damage and fresh, and get audio out using the adaptor that came with my htc touch pro.
Re: [BUG] No Audio through mini usb on 2.1
huh, that's the exact adapter I'm using...
note-if I plug in the adapter while sound is going the headphone icon comes up and it plays for a second then stops.
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I'm running the latest DC ROM and audio from the mini USB works ok for me with no problems with a multifunction adapter.
I use this particular adapter:
http://www.onlysprinthero.com/htc3in1adapter.html
I agree as well that the audio output from the headphone jack is pretty lousy.
I hope I am not misunderstanding but I just plugged in the USB adapter from my Diamond and was able to get audio from the 3.5mm jack on the adapter and charge at the same time. Im running Fresh 2.0D.
Re: [BUG] No Audio through mini usb on 2.1
starting to think its my phone, going to test the adapter on another hero, hopefully it just went bad, I've had it awhile.
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Same here, I have my multi adapter from my Touch pro and mogul, as well as the wired headsets from those. Both adapters work just fine, but only the wired headset with the slider volume bar works on the hero for some reason, the touch pro wired headset does not.
Works fine for me.
Thanks for everyones help, i just got back from a sprint store where i tested my adapter on other phones and they gave me a brand new one and it still doesnt work. If you move it around a bit it will catch the headphone contacts so it has to be the port on my phone, just happened to be when i upgraded to 2.1.
They recommended i take it to one of their service stores, does anyone have any advice on these places? ie- do i need to restore to stock and unroot, is it expensive... I do not have the insurance because i baby my phones and have never damaged one... of course i have it on my wifes though... grrr...
and yes the sound quality is MUCH better through the mini usb port.
Thanks again for everyones help, i really appreciate it.
Your phone is still under warranty. Unless you obviously broke it somehow, it won't cost anything. They'll take your phone, probably clean out the connector and check its connections, then give it back to you within an hour or so. If they can't fix it, they'll hook you up with a refurb.
I do recommend restoring to stock. A nandroid backup of stock is definitely best, as they won't check to see if you've installed a recovery ROM, and you won't have to re-root to put your custom backup back on. Otherwise, just run the RUU and restore to full stock before you bring it in.
So for those of you who do use an adapter for various reasons, are you able to answer a call without removing the adapter? Specifically, if you're using the adapter with a pair of headphones or speakers, but no external microphone, can you answer the call using the internal microphone without removing the adapter?

[Q] Can you plug a USB mic into the Note?

Hi all,
Has anyone hooked up a USB mic to the USB port of a Note via a USB OTG cable?
I would be really interested in using a decent USB mic with Audio Evolution that just got released last week.
I'm not sure if you'd need drivers for it, or it would just register as a mic in the same way a mouse or keyboard works OK.
I tried googling but couldn't find anything, except a video in which someone hooked up a USB mic preamp, but once you start doing that you lose some of the portability of just having the Note plus a USB mic.
I've seen the iRigMicCast, but I think a USB mic might have the potential for better audio quality, and also more options if any USB mic worked.
thanks,
Rich
mouse, keyboard, pen drives and a few portable disks on fat32. that's it i guess.
Yes, you can. You need to compile kernel with your usb mic drivers and flash it to your device.
I tried to connect a couple of usb audio devices to the note (otg cable) - No luck...
Hopefully ICS will fix this.
Chris

[Q] run music on nook simple touch

hello guys , i know u can play music on nook simple touch ..... but i am asking about if i can use Samsung galaxy s3 headphone and connect to my nook .... it will run on it ....and if not .... what pins i must modified
i just want put direct headphone .... no usb jacks
thx
Sorry, you'd need an audio interface on USB somehow.
Maybe you could hack it internally but it would be a headache in one way or another.
The system-on-a-chip does support an interface to audio chips but you'd have to do a lot of work to get that going.
Renate NST said:
Sorry, you'd need an audio interface on USB somehow.
Maybe you could hack it internally but it would be a headache in one way or another.
The system-on-a-chip does support an interface to audio chips but you'd have to do a lot of work to get that going.
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thx . MISS Renate for answer
um........ ok ..... is the s3 usb cable suitable with nook???
also the other part i need is headphone usb ..... right.?????,,,
my idea is just joint the right connection between them and also add mic and make them both work in same time and ........ the sum up i meant is create a headphone for nook simple touch ...... plug in and play ............ hope my idea reached u right ........ we wont touch the nook internal staff just the pin connection between nooks jack and headphone and mic ........ cuz iam always love listen to music while read or surf internet ...........i know ur great efforts in develop this appz ......... but i just wont play music or convert nook to ipad nearly possible
THX
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The micro USB connector is used for a lot of things.
The five pins on it can be used for unrelated things if the hardware behind them supports them.
The options are
USB
CarKit (analog audio in and out)
MHL (HDMI-like video interface)
UART (logic level serial port for debugging)
Unfortunately, on the Nook we just have USB.
Renate NST said:
The micro USB connector is used for a lot of things.
The five pins on it can be used for unrelated things if the hardware behind them supports them.
The options are
USB
CarKit (analog audio in and out)
MHL (HDMI-like video interface)
UART (logic level serial port for debugging)
Unfortunately, on the Nook we just have USB.
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can u tell me which parts i neer for my nook????
i can get sIII usb cable ...... and i will search for headphone usb ....... is that all i need????
best regards
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You need an USB OTG adapter cable (brand, model not important, but it must say "OTG").
Something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23683542&postcount=139
You need a USB audio adapter, something like this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KT80IO/
Then you need to read the whole thread from the first link.
Renate NST said:
You need an USB OTG adapter cable (brand, model not important, but it must say "OTG").
Something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23683542&postcount=139
You need a USB audio adapter, something like this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KT80IO/
Then you need to read the whole thread from the first link.
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iam not sure that i will find here ...... can u provide good deal to buy this online ......thx anyway
also can u provide me a pic with the connection. also I feel that will won't be portable.
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i found this otg cable on online store in egypt ........ have alook if that the correct cable . i will buy it easly
http://egypt.souq.com/eg-en/micro-usb-otg-host-cable-for-samsung-and-htc-3995639/i/
That looks good.
Unfortunately I don't have any Egyptian pounds on me.
Consider if you have the option whether to get a right angle cable.
I find those easier, although it's hard to see from a photo
if it goes left or right out of the socket.
I have a couple that I bought that go down when the Nook is in landscape mode.
UMMMMMMM,......... lol...... just gimme links to the right cable with suitable handfree and i will go to virgin store or compu me ..... or try ask in electronics markt ........ anyway ...... i wont go buy anything till my exams finished ...mmmm thx for.ur great efforts ..
BEST regards
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Renate NST said:
You need an USB OTG adapter cable (brand, model not important, but it must say "OTG").
Something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23683542&postcount=139
You need a USB audio adapter, something like this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KT80IO/
Then you need to read the whole thread from the first link.
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Would it be possible, with some software modification in NST, to use something like this1, instead of a huge USB audio adapter?
or this2 or this3? Or best of all, can I simply use microUSB headset? like this
Nope, those adaptors will not work.
They are all just mechanical adaptors with no active electronics in them.
A micro USB connector is often used for multiple things, USB, MPL, UART, analog audio.
Inside the device these things must be supported.
Motorola handies often allow the sending of analog audio through the micro USB connector.
You only need a mechanical adaptor to be able to plug in headphones.
The Nook has no audio hardware inside.
You need an actual USB audio adapter.
Renate NST said:
Nope, those adaptors will not work.
They are all just mechanical adaptors with no active electronics in them.
A micro USB connector is often used for multiple things, USB, MPL, UART, analog audio.
Inside the device these things must be supported.
Motorola handies often allow the sending of analog audio through the micro USB connector.
You only need a mechanical adaptor to be able to plug in headphones.
The Nook has no audio hardware inside.
You need an actual USB audio adapter.
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Thanks mademoiselle Renate!
My ideal plan: dig into NST and hide the good microUSB/USB sound adapter inside the Nook case. and just leave the microUSB cable outside. Do you think this is possible or just a childish dream?
Better: is it possible to extend 1 microUSB to multiple? like an extender. Any consequence on battery use?
You could connect a USB device inside a Nook.
For any audio adapter it would be best to just put in a separate headphone jack.
The problem comes when you want to use the Nook as a peripheral.
If you use an internal hub then everything has to switch direction.
It all gets complicated.
Hubs are kind of power hogs since they are usually on wall powered devices.
Since the OMAP3621 is designed for an audio interface, that would be a challenge but would use less power than a USB solution.

Using Camera on Nook HD+ ?

Is there anyway we can use camera on Nook Hd+. As Nook HD or HD+ doesnt have an inbuilt camera. SO is there any app through which we can possibly use our laptop camera or any other, connecting it to the Nook via Bluetooth or USB or Wifi, thus, able to access camera on Nook.
In short, if we can use PC webcam as a camera on Nook by connecting it over USB or any. This will leave a huge room open for accessing great applications demanding the camera.
goldenlark said:
Is there anyway we can use camera on Nook Hd+. As Nook HD or HD+ doesnt have an inbuilt camera. SO is there any app through which we can possibly use our laptop camera or any other, connecting it to the Nook via Bluetooth or USB or Wifi, thus, able to access camera on Nook.
In short, if we can use PC webcam as a camera on Nook by connecting it over USB or any. This will leave a huge room open for accessing great applications demanding the camera.
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First possible thing is Air Cam Live Video. But this maybe have many disadvantages for you.
Second i recommend look to this external link
For third i can say that Toshiba Folio 100 can use external USB webcam, but Folio have USB port too. I'm not familiar Nook 30 pin connector pinouts, but i hope there can be used for USB host too.
Yeah and hardware possibility is using some WiFi cam / spycam. Like this one on ebay (made just quick search for item, not for best price/deal). Disadvantage is that same time you can not connect your HD+ to another wifi network.
Edit: My mistake. This cam have two modes, infrastructure mode connecting it over local WiFi network or straight mode connecting HD/HD+ directly to camera.
Ip can will turn your phone into a wifi c connected comets which you can look at on some apps from play store,
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goldenlark said:
Is there anyway we can use camera on Nook Hd+. As Nook HD or HD+ doesnt have an inbuilt camera. SO is there any app through which we can possibly use our laptop camera or any other, connecting it to the Nook via Bluetooth or USB or Wifi, thus, able to access camera on Nook.
In short, if we can use PC webcam as a camera on Nook by connecting it over USB or any. This will leave a huge room open for accessing great applications demanding the camera.
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I've been working on this issue for about 2 weeks. One important question: Do you want a cam for security/surveillance/monitoring or for video conferencing/calls/Skype? The options for the former are much broader, but remember most security cams do not have voice capability. I'm in the video call camp.
If money is no object, I would think an IP cam with mic could do the trick, or possibly B/T, but since I'm looking for a cheaper solution and to have fun with this challenge, I'm going the USB route. For this purpose you need to make the HD plus become a USB Host just like your PC or Laptop. Not a problem, theoretically, since that capability is built into the Android OS on your device, but getting it to talk with a USB device, such as a camera, is another matter. Connecting it is the second challenge; there is no USB OTG cable (the "special" cable for USB Hosts) for the Nook. It would have a female USB connector on one end and Nook's (f**k**g) proprietary 30 pin male connector on the other, through which you'd connect your USB device. I've come up with a hardware workaround, but I'm waiting for a special connector coming on a slow boat from China. A side hardware problem is the lack of power coming into the USB Host (the Nook) and the USB Slave (the Cam), but utilizing a powered USB hub could solve it.
So, if the hardware problem is overcome, will it work? Video cam APKs are aplenty on Google Play, but I don't yet know if they will play (pun intended) well with the Nook's USB host adaptor set-up. I'll let you know. Total costs with a new cam will be less than $20; if you already have a USB cam (with built in mic), it'll be about $5. Nice.
Flamers put away your blow torches. If I really wanted or needed a cam I wouldn't have bought the Nook HD+. I know that. This is for cheap thrills.
RustedRoot said:
but I'm waiting for a special connector coming on a slow boat from China
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Can you share which one? I'm interested about it.
datas0ft said:
Can you share which one? I'm interested about it.
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If anyone know something like this awesome app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5waWNhZGVsaWMuZnhndXJ1Il0.
Maybe if I can use my laptop camera to be used as on Nook , I can get some nice effects and definitely skype
RustedRoot said:
I've been working on this issue for about 2 weeks. One important question: Do you want a cam for security/surveillance/monitoring or for video conferencing/calls/Skype? The options for the former are much broader, but remember most security cams do not have voice capability. I'm in the video call camp.
If money is no object, I would think an IP cam with mic could do the trick, or possibly B/T, but since I'm looking for a cheaper solution and to have fun with this challenge, I'm going the USB route. For this purpose you need to make the HD plus become a USB Host just like your PC or Laptop. Not a problem, theoretically, since that capability is built into the Android OS on your device, but getting it to talk with a USB device, such as a camera, is another matter. Connecting it is the second challenge; there is no USB OTG cable (the "special" cable for USB Hosts) for the Nook. It would have a female USB connector on one end and Nook's (f**k**g) proprietary 30 pin male connector on the other, through which you'd connect your USB device. I've come up with a hardware workaround, but I'm waiting for a special connector coming on a slow boat from China. A side hardware problem is the lack of power coming into the USB Host (the Nook) and the USB Slave (the Cam), but utilizing a powered USB hub could solve it.
So, if the hardware problem is overcome, will it work? Video cam APKs are aplenty on Google Play, but I don't yet know if they will play (pun intended) well with the Nook's USB host adaptor set-up. I'll let you know. Total costs with a new cam will be less than $20; if you already have a USB cam (with built in mic), it'll be about $5. Nice.
Flamers put away your blow torches. If I really wanted or needed a cam I wouldn't have bought the Nook HD+. I know that. This is for cheap thrills.
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If anyone know something like this awesome app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5waWNhZGVsaWMuZnhndXJ1Il0.
Maybe if I can use my laptop camera to be used as on Nook , I can get some nice effects and definitely skype
datas0ft said:
Can you share which one? I'm interested about it.
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First, you must use a USB OTG cable with a special female USB connector (it'll look conventional) on one end which will identify the device as a USB Host. Unfortunately, most connectors on the other end are male micro usbs, or 30 pin Apple connectors, not the Nook 30-pin. I bought one with the male micro USB plug. Now I'll need a female micro USB to female USB adaptor to connect it to the Nook.. That's the special adaptor coming from China (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271094375029?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649).
The configuration of the set-up is this:
Plug in to a/c outlet a powered USB hub (2.0)
Connect the primary cable of the hub (i.e., the one that would go into a PC/laptop) to the hub and to the USB female end of OTG cable
Plug the OTG micro male to the like-female end of the special adaptor
Plug USB cable from the Nook into the other end of the special adaptor then into the Nook
Plug USB device you want to use with the Nook into one of the ports of the USB hub.
If all goes well the Nook should identify the device, but you'll need drivers and maybe an apk to use it. Whether the drivers load automatically or not remains to be seen.
If I get to that point I'll let you know what happens from there...
RustedRoot said:
The configuration of the set-up is this:
Plug in to a/c outlet a powered USB hub (2.0)
Connect the primary cable of the hub (i.e., the one that would go into a PC/laptop) to the hub and to the USB female end of OTG cable
Plug the OTG micro male to the like-female end of the special adaptor
Plug USB cable from the Nook into the other end of the special adaptor then into the Nook
Plug USB device you want to use with the Nook into one of the ports of the USB hub.
If all goes well the Nook should identify the device, but you'll need drivers and maybe an apk to use it. Whether the drivers load automatically or not remains to be seen.
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It would be surprising if this works. USB OTG cables have 5 pins; they distinguish the host side from the peripheral side by shorting the fifth pin to either ground or +5V. But the Nook's USB cable ends in a 4-pin connector. There's no way to tell it to act as a host.
On the bright side, the Nook's kernel definitely contains support for host-side USB. It has drivers for mass-storage, HID (mouse, keryboard, etc.), serial, and video devices. To use these facilities, though, it would be necessary to wire up your own 30-pin connector. As far as I know, B&N has not made the pin-outs public.
Delta^1_1 said:
It would be surprising if this works. USB OTG cables have 5 pins; they distinguish the host side from the peripheral side by shorting the fifth pin to either ground or +5V. But the Nook's USB cable ends in a 4-pin connector. There's no way to tell it to act as a host.
On the bright side, the Nook's kernel definitely contains support for host-side USB. It has drivers for mass-storage, HID (mouse, keryboard, etc.), serial, and video devices. To use these facilities, though, it would be necessary to wire up your own 30-pin connector. As far as I know, B&N has not made the pin-outs public.
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I was operating on the premise that only the female end of the OTG cable required the 4-to-5 jumper. Alas, the male end also requires the same configuration. I could tackle modding the female USB end, but the 30-pin connector is another story. Thanks again to B&N for making a proprietary cable. Another smart move on its part -- limiting the inherent functionality of this device. It hasn't made an OTG cable and probably never will since it is cutting back on its Nook investment. They blew it, but that's another story...
Appreciate your comments above.
I attach us electronic mechanic to investigate my opened HD+. Maybe we can find some interesting pins.
Only one i dont want to do, this is cutting off this 30 pin plug at cable side. Its hard and over prized to buy new cable to my destination.
RustedRoot said:
I bought one with the male micro USB plug. Now I'll need a female micro USB to female USB adaptor to connect it to the Nook.. That's the special adaptor coming from China (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271094375029?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649).
The configuration of the set-up is this:
Plug in to a/c outlet a powered USB hub (2.0)
Connect the primary cable of the hub (i.e., the one that would go into a PC/laptop) to the hub and to the USB female end of OTG cable
Plug the OTG micro male to the like-female end of the special adaptor
Plug USB cable from the Nook into the other end of the special adaptor then into the Nook
Plug USB device you want to use with the Nook into one of the ports of the USB hub.
If all goes well the Nook should identify the device, but you'll need drivers and maybe an apk to use it. Whether the drivers load automatically or not remains to be seen.
If I get to that point I'll let you know what happens from there...
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How did this ultimately work out?
RoundSparrow said:
How did this ultimately work out?
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No hardware fix, but follow this link to use a software hack which requires CM10.1 for your HD+: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307585 That should work.
Doesn't work because we need a camera app. Any ideas for that?

Nexus 7 in car install help

Have nearly completed my car install but came across a few hicups which i hope some can help me with.
First
I have purchased a fiio e17 for the digital to analogue converter but realised that once it goes flat it wont turn on without manual hands on with the power button, even with power fed to it. So i assume that i wont be able to use the e17 am i correct ?, are there no work arounds anyone can think of. Perhaps the headphone dock could power it on once power is detected ??.
Otherwise i will have to get the e10
Second
I have been trying to figure a way if possible to power a usb hub externally and have a usb otg cable Y cable connected to the nexus and only feeding power to the nexus and not the usb hub seen as its already powered. Now i have successfully wired the hub for its own power but find i cannot feed or redirect power to the nexus without using the timur kernel. Is it possible at all to have it feed power to the nexus only without the need of custom kernels ??.
Thanks.

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