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Why very little devs?

Im not complaining just wondering
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I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.

After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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intruda119 said:
After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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The endless cries for help from noobs and/or people lacking common sense drove them away?

Lack of 2.2 source.

lqaddict said:
Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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stop being a jerk.
s15274n said:
I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
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Well, i'm currently good for this as well, but look at it, the only devs that people know for vibrants are: Eugene, Master, TW thats pretty much it i think?
TW is probably a bunch of people, master, he seems to be working alone currently, and Eugene is probably working with barak or something.

quadratic said:
Lack of 2.2 source.
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^ this
blame samsung

Yea since 2.1 is over with we just need 2.2 not the leaks
I love development as well im on axura I just noticed
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quadratic said:
Lack of 2.2 source.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.

xriderx66 said:
i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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And btw where is Eugene? He hasnt teleased anything in a while...
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If I'm not mistaken that 10 million number is the whole Galaxy S line. 3 of the phones in that line have had very little, if any, in the way of leaked software thereby putting the need for anything new at a stand still. The majority of the 10 million sold have been I9000 which has seen plenty of development. As for the Vibrant I count 4 active Dev teams that are major players here, Eugene, Team Whiskey, Master, Heathen. Then you have a couple others releasing random items. To my recollection there has been a new rom or update to existing roms every single week. I'm not sure what else you would want maybe a new rom to flash daily? One of those devs has stop posting here but those that like his work have given us all the updated info. All of the Devs with the exception of Heathen have slowed down a bit for various reason known only to them but I'd speculate 3 possible reasons. 1. Holidays man people want to relax a little. 2. Nothing new to work with in a few weeks and the last 3 or 4 leaks have just been tweaks to 2.2. And finally C. with 2.3 on the horizon I'm sure some of the devs are busy finding a way to bring us all a stable/working version.
Hope this clears everything up for you.

Alanrocks15 said:
I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...

xriderx66 said:
What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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Not exactly true. I mean I understand the sentiment. But it only goes up to a point. I thoroughly expect either an official 2.3 release sometime this year, or at least a stable 2.3 port from the Nexus considering it's pretty much the same exact phone. But after that, I'm not expecting much considering the handset with be EOL by then.
I was a former G1 owner, and I think it was great that we were able to get an official build of 1.6, and even though CM worked pretty well on it (at least the Eclair versions), you can't really expect that it would run Froyo well.
Bottom line, I think if every handset was updated within the first 1.5 years of it's life, people would be satisfied and there would be a lot less frustration about lack of support with Android in general.

[Think Tank] Port of Desire S Gingerbread Update 12/4/2010* Success

Due to the overwhelming support for such a project to be undertaken I thought it would be a good idea to set up a think tank and get some valuable info from devs on this process. There are many people willing to support this process with cash, I do not want any fiscal rewards but it may be there for devs that do.
Please no flaming, just constructive comments on where to start with this
Update: 10/04/2010
apreichner is going to try and port a Desire S Sense build to the NS, he has built a ROM from source before & this looks to be the first major dev involvement in this process. My thanks to apreichner and I wish you all the luck possible, and im sure there is quite a lot of other people in the community rooting for you too
Update: 12/4/2011
apreichner has become the first person to boot HTC Sense on a Nexus S. At the moment nothing works but this is a fantastic monumental event in the life of the NS. Let's hope this is the beginning of good times for this device
JD
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Update: 10/04/2010
apreichner is going to try and port a Desire S Sense build to the NS, he has built a ROM from source before & this looks to be the first major dev involvement in this process. My thanks to apreichner and I wish you all the luck possible, and im sure there is quite a lot of other people in the community rooting for you too
Update: 12/4/2011
apreichner has become the first person to boot HTC Sense on a Nexus S. At the moment nothing works but this is a fantastic monumental event in the life of the NS. Let's hope this is the beginning of good times for this device
JD
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Definitely interested and would love sense! <<ALPHA TESTER!

Cheers Flamerider
Its time to get this badboy on the road. I have messaged a few people and will look for a good starting point, really need some top dev help
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Cheers Flamerider
really need some top dev help
JD
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Hmm lets give Modaco a ring? He is damn good with that Sense.

Paul only usually works on phones that he uses frequently, I think he is loved up with the 2x at the moment... If Paul has not already started doing this, I'm pretty sure he has not got any plans to do so;( I will send him a tweet and see what his thoughts are
JD
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good LUCK !!!!!

JupiterDroid said:
Paul only usually works on phones that he uses frequently, I think he is loved up with the 2x at the moment... If Paul has not already started doing this, I'm pretty sure he has not got any plans to do so;( I will send him a tweet and see what his thoughts are
JD
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Thats the worst phone i have ever tried in my entire life.
I don't know why he hasn't sent it right back or sold it, ... or heck, i would have given it away for free

I am willing to test the ROMs for developers and provide feedback through IRC/endless emails.
Willing to donate as well if we ever set up a list or whatever.

Xandlinger said:
I am willing to test the ROMs for developers and provide feedback through IRC/endless emails.
Willing to donate as well if we ever set up a list or whatever.
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Yep, i think AllGamer should set up a paypal account so we can contribute, im surprised that paul has not tried to port sense already

If there is to be no dev help then this will surely fail;(

I don't know why the Nexus S lacks dev support when its supposed to be a dev phone. It definitely has the hardware for it. The g1 still gets dev support and its hardware sucks compared to a phone like the Nexus S. Does anyone know about how many devs the NS has?
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I've never seen the Samsung UI but I love the HTC one! I hope someone ports this!

OuncE718 said:
I don't know why the Nexus S lacks dev support when its supposed to be a dev phone. It definitely has the hardware for it. The g1 still gets dev support and its hardware sucks compared to a phone like the Nexus S. Does anyone know about how many devs the NS has?
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I did not know we had such a lack of Dev's until now. Its like a ghost town, and this is such a great phone for devs too;(
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
I did not know we had such a lack of Dev's until now. Its like a ghost town, and this is such a great phone for devs too;(
JD
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Smh, its sad. Google should pay some secret devs to come to XDA to show others the potential of the NS hardware and maybe other devs might do some exciting ports other than the traditional gingerbread roms. I DO APPRECIATE THE CURRENT DEVS AND THEIR HARD WORK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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OuncE718 said:
Smh, its sad. Google should pay some secret devs to come to XDA to show others the potential of the NS hardware and maybe other devs might do some exciting ports other than the traditional gingerbread roms. I DO APPRECIATE THE CURRENT DEVS AND THEIR HARD WORK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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If no dev help is going to be forthcoming then we will become the dev.... I think its a joke, there cant be this lack of dev support surely....
If this was the N1 there would already be ROM's churning out everywhere instead of regurgitated CM7/Stock ROM'S

Wouldn't it be illegal to port the customizations made by Samsung and HTC? Just a thought as to why this may not be getting any attention.
If I recall correctly, there was even a widget developer that was asked by HTC to stop distributing a Sense-based theme.

lfmmoura said:
Wouldn't it be illegal to port the customizations made by Samsung and HTC? Just a thought as to why this may not be getting any attention.
If I recall correctly, there was even a widget developer that was asked by HTC to stop distributing a Sense-based theme.
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No
There are lots of Sense ports on the N1 section so its ok... I think its only illegal if your doing it for fiscal purposes.
JD

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Wouldn't it be illegal to port the customizations made by Samsung and HTC? Just a thought as to why this may not be getting any attention.
If I recall correctly, there was even a widget developer that was asked by HTC to stop distributing a Sense-based theme.
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Why would it be illegal? Isn't Android open-source like linux? I hope its not because I really would like to see the HTC Sense. I even got a chance to see the samsung ui (I think you guys have been calling it Touchwhiz) and it looks pretty snazzy too!
Hey jupiterdroid, I noticed in your signature that you do some computer related stuff. Have you ever tried developing? Maybe if you started working on a port others would join in!

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Why would it be illegal? Isn't Android open-source like linux? I hope its not because I really would like to see the HTC Sense. I even got a chance to see the samsung ui (I think you guys have been calling it Touchwhiz) and it looks pretty snazzy too!
Hey jupiterdroid, I noticed in your signature that you do some computer related stuff. Have you ever tried developing? Maybe if you started working on a port others would join in!
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Technically porting android would not be illegal, but sense is not open source so porting that for fiscal purposes could be seen as stealing.
Mate I wished I could port and code, all my experience is in networking and programing Cisco routers;( I would love to give this a go, but even experienced coders failed to port sense to the vibrant, it makes me fear the worst, and is also making me consider selling the NS and buying the Evo 3D when it arrives in Europe Just miss the diversity of a HTC phone
JD
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Samsung sent Atinm a SGS II so he can dev Cyanogenmod 7 on it.

Follow this link:
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
This is a great move on Samsung's part. Can't wait to own a Galaxy S II, or the one after, if my Vibrant continues doing an admirable job.

Jesus christ, they gave him a phone to develop CM7 on?
HAY SAMSUNG, WE CAN HAS GB SAUCE FOR COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL, NON BATTERY DRAINING CM7 BY ATINM?

Hmmmmm... Can they not get GB to work right on it either? They should just put him on the payroll.

That's freakin' sweet. Guess they do care about fans...in a way.
Now leak Gb so us Vibrant users can have a fully functional CM7.

It'll be funny if they wont release the source for their drivers to Atinm LOL

but on a serious note, what does this mean for the Vibrant's CM7 development?

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but on a serious note, what does this mean for the Vibrant's CM7 development?
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Nothing.
and i'd laugh if Atinm said "thanks for the phone, i'm keepin it, and NO CM7 for you guysssss"
but seriously.
Samsung, props to you.

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Hmmmmm... Can they not get GB to work right on it either? They should just put him on the payroll.
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How pedantic. Manufacturers don't need to support CM7, and some of them have been even a bit hostile to it. Sending him a phone so he can do his thing is nothing but a nice gesture.

Hay Samsung， we need GB GPS codes of our Vibrants.

maybe he has a means of contacting Samsung. why not ask for gnu source.
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he needs to ask why tmobil is not getting a sgs2???
but mad props to samsung for doing this!! i was already a samsung fan but now more then ever

Mannymal said:
How pedantic. Manufacturers don't need to support CM7, and some of them have been even a bit hostile to it. Sending him a phone so he can do his thing is nothing but a nice gesture.
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Don't get so tore up. If you re-read what I said you will see it was a joke. Perhaps I didn't use proper punctuation. I apologize you got so upset you had to search your vast vocabulary for a word such as "pedantic" to throw at me. It is a nice gesture by Samsung. Thank you for bringing us the good news. I hope you find this post a little less pedantic for your exquisite taste. Good day sir...

Whoa! Kudos to Samsung!
And there are others who are still debating whether to keep their bootloaders locked or not.

Mannymal said:
How pedantic. Manufacturers don't need to support CM7, and some of them have been even a bit hostile to it. Sending him a phone so he can do his thing is nothing but a nice gesture.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPWQVGBVXKI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Hardware does not equal source. Giving him a phone is really like an empty ice cream cone. Even if it is a waffle cone
Beware of angry gingerbread man

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Hardware does not equal source. Giving him a phone is really like an empty ice cream cone. Even if it is a waffle cone
Beware of angry gingerbread man
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Unless it wwas a modded sgs2 that came with vanilla + source but isn't released to the public yet???
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Decisions, Decisions: Iphone 5 Coming to sprint, Docs revealed

http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/04/best-...e-5-for-sprint-preorders-starting-next-month/
Not that I'm getting it, lol.
What are your thoughts?

Idk I have the nexus and it perfect I just see myself getting really bored of an iPhone
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Not that I'm getting it, lol.
What are your thoughts?
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no flash support, no keyboard. no thanks. i dont hate ios, i dont love android. im just happy where im at.

OO Helllls yes !!! iPhone here i cum !!1
Apple all the way bee otches !!!!
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Im happy because now most of the average phone users will go over to the iPhone and our android forums wont be cluttered up as much ... i hope....

It's over rated, nothing really great about it

I think it's good for Sprint as a company, but I don't want it.

austin420 said:
no flash support, no keyboard. no thanks. i dont hate ios, i dont love android. im just happy where im at.
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QFT
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Thank You Crucifixion......Nothing Special about an IPhone. NOT A DARN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me wrong.. the iphone5 is going to be really sweet. But idk, i have an ipod and an ipad.. the UI can get boring as all it is a is a big app drawer ui. The apps are DEF an advantage, but I see more and more ios apps coming to android.

Pass. But if it's good for Sprint and not bad for their network, hope people are happy. An iPhone right now would actually be a big step down from my Epic, for all kinds of reasons. Android forever (translated from Geek: for the foreseeable future until they **** us folks ;-) ).

Its way to early to tell if this is a bad thing(maybe not, since they're raising prices allready) but I really hope its not and it gets sprint some needed leaverage.
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DroidApprentice said:
Pass. But if it's good for Sprint and not bad for their network, hope people are happy. An iPhone right now would actually be a big step down from my Epic, for all kinds of reasons.
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Very nicely put. I fully agree.
This Epic post brought to you via Tapatalk

You know what would be VERY cool? An iPhone5 running Android. Its undoubtedly going to be miles ahead of Android phones with regards to hardware, as the new iPad's are every time one is released. Getting Android on one would be amazing, but probably impossible.

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Im happy because now most of the average phone users will go over to the iPhone and our android forums wont be cluttered up as much ... i hope....
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LOL +1
10char

muyoso said:
You know what would be VERY cool? An iPhone5 running Android. Its undoubtedly going to be miles ahead of Android phones with regards to hardware, as the new iPad's are every time one is released. Getting Android on one would be amazing, but probably impossible.
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I have casually tried both iPhone 4 and iPads and never received the impression that they were better spec-ed than the latest Android or even Windows equivalents. Now that Apple is at war with basically anyone who isn't them in tech world, I think they will consistently lose any raw horsepower race (Samsung may not want to sell to them anymore for one). Maybe they will retain an edge in usability for some people, but they are the design kings, as long as you don't despise iTunes like I do, and price gouging.

I'm jumping with my wife. I started on AT&T and iPhone then moved to sprint because cost of the plan. I've seen both sides and so far you can't beat the stability and battery if your willing to drink Steves koolaid!

Looks like I finally made up my mind about what my next phone is going to be. Iphone 5 is it. I was gonna get the Epic Touch but quickly remembered the fact that my phone is on 2.2.1 in an era where Android is at 2.3.6, and how frustrating the Gingerbread leaks have been so far. Not to forget the fact that Samsung doesn't even have the courtesy to share their source code or drivers so that we can create our own up to date roms. I'm never dealing with Samsung again. It's been a nightmare.
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kaotikevo said:
Looks like I finally made up my mind about what my next phone is going to be. Iphone 5 is it. I was gonna get the Epic Touch but quickly remembered the fact that my phone is on 2.2.1 in an era where Android is at 2.3.6, and how frustrating the Gingerbread leaks have been so far. Not to forget the fact that Samsung doesn't even have the courtesy to share their source code or drivers so that we can create our own up to date roms. I'm never dealing with Samsung again. It's been a nightmare.
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Yeah, Samsung leaves a bad taste in your mouth about updates.

kaotikevo said:
Looks like I finally made up my mind about what my next phone is going to be. Iphone 5 is it. I was gonna get the Epic Touch but quickly remembered the fact that my phone is on 2.2.1 in an era where Android is at 2.3.6, and how frustrating the Gingerbread leaks have been so far. Not to forget the fact that Samsung doesn't even have the courtesy to share their source code or drivers so that we can create our own up to date roms. I'm never dealing with Samsung again. It's been a nightmare.
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As oppsed to how open apple is with their source code and drivers???
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austin420 said:
As oppsed to how open apple is with their source code and drivers???
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As opposed to how up to date Apple keeps their phones. With Apple you don't even have to worry about late updates. Ios frees you from that hassle. You have great, fast, stable, low latency audio software, and you can jailbreak your phone and customize it as much as Android in terms of appearance and functionality. Plus you have much more games and apps. Can't lose.
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Thought this was entertaining.

Add in all new icons and alot of android and what do you have? IOS 7!!
http://www.zdnet.com/apple-ios-7-android-copycat-7000016705/

I have never liked the icrap anyway.
One method1911

Sigh... im getting tired of this iOS vs Android crap. just get a life

IINexusII said:
Sigh... im getting tired of this iOS vs Android crap. just get a life
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Just get a life? lol really. Just passing the time while Im here at work and thought this was humorous. But hey brb, I'm headed out to find me a life. Thanks for the tip.

tx3kgtman said:
Just get a life? lol really. Just passing the time while Im here at work and thought this was humorous. But hey brb, I'm headed out to find me a life. Thanks for the tip.
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Not just you, I see it too many times these days and there's much better stuff to pass time at work with

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Not just you, I see it too many times these days and there's much better stuff to pass time at work with
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Still, there's no denying it actually looks a lot like android.
Kind of a MIUI-ish rom with vanilla ICS elements and a pinch of Blackberry and WP.

Theshawty said:
Still, there's no denying it actually looks a lot like android.
Kind of a MIUI-ish rom with vanilla ICS elements and a pinch of Blackberry and WP.
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its gonna look like something isnt it? its a smartphone OS just like the others. we can all just get along with other platforms instead of just arguing over nothing.
im pretty sure the folks at Microsoft, Google, Apple all have holidays together and probably spend some time watching all us noobs argue over platforms

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its gonna look like something isnt it? its a smartphone OS just like the others. we can all just get along with other platforms instead of just arguing over nothing.
im pretty sure the folks at Microsoft, Google, Apple all have holidays together and probably spend some time watching all us noobs argue over platforms
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But that's exactly the thing, my dear Nexus, we cannot get along. I wish too that we could, but with Apple, that's just never going to happen. I personally don't mind that they take stuff from Android, it's open source after all and free for the taking, but the way Apples takes it is just blatantly rude. They not only take it, but they also claim they invented it and were overly innovative and are also willing to go to court with whoever originally made it.
They have the USPTO on their pay roll and the fact that it's an American company, means the US will favor them over any other company.

As proven by the numerous law suits they are currently involved in against any competitors. Pretty soon they will have copyrighted and patented all the Android features they have just stolen and will be busy filing claims against half the world.
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As proven by the numerous law suits they are currently involved in against any competitors. Pretty soon they will have copyrighted and patented all the Android features they have just stolen and will be busy filing claims against half the world.
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And all the iSheep out there, they believe only what Mother Apple is telling them.

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And all the iSheep out there, they believe only what Mother Apple is telling them.
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LOL
But seriously, iOS7 = WP8 + ICS/JB of Android + Sense + TouchWiz

dvsk69 said:
LOL
But seriously, iOS7 = WP8 + ICS/JB of Android + Sense + TouchWiz
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I concur.

This isn't pertinent to the HTC One
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