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K ya know beside the signal bar it shows a "G" then if you click on it it asks if you want to turn on wireless, well now there is a "U".
Is there someplace that can tell me what all these symbols mean?
Wow.... seriously... where do you live?
The U means that you now are connected to UMTS which gives you the "broadband" access through your provider. Make sure you have unlim data plan. It will start to eat it up when you realize what you get to do with all that bandwidth. Have FUN!!!
well does it eat up data if you "dont" use messenger or web browse? AKA: just use the phone?
I do have a data plan for unlimited text messaging and i use Wifi when i wanna surf.
Quick guide:
Starting with the slowest.
Second Generation:
GSM
GPRS (the G symbol)
EDGE (the E symbol)
Third Generation:
UMTS (the U symbol or depending on localisation, 3G symbol)
HSDPA (the H symbol, if you've got this, then you're in for some fast download speeds)
It all depends on which network you're on and proximity to a tower as to what speed you will actually get.
There are other types, but these are the ones you're more likely to come across using a Hermes.
U Bet
ROTFLMAO.... I thought I had a bug in my ROM after flashing it, even went to the trouble of rolling back.
What a freakin' idiot I am!....
I live in an area where i see U and H fairly often up there.
However, to me it makes little difference, I don't download large files with the device. Web browsing seems mostly unaffected by the connection type.
Having the device in 3G or 3.5G modes does however drain the battery somewhat faster. I saw the difference in my Uni. Can't comment on EDGE as the Uni doesn't have it, I'll be getting my Hermes today so I should be able to comment on that.
It would be logical that the faster connection speeds would drain the battery faster, but I don't know how much faster we're talking about.
However, if battery life is a concern at all for anyone reading this, I would recommend turning off 3G altogether. Why? Web pages are going to render just as fast. Surfing the web is painful on these things regardless of the connection type.
On T-Mobile at least - here is a rough guide for the download speeds for different connection types. These are averages and do change and vary with signal strength. I work for T-Mobile, so these are accurate ^^
GPRS - around 44 kbps
UTMS (3G) - around 386 kbps
HSDPA (3.5G) - up to 1.8 mbps (increasing to 3.6 soon)
If you are on T-Mobile, and in a 3G area, then you will be most likely connected to HSDPA as it covers the whole of their 3G network.
Hope this is of some interest....
Doom Tints said:
if battery life is a concern at all for anyone reading this, I would recommend turning off 3G altogether.
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But how? AFAIK it's not trivial with my unit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337485.
From your network type, select 'GSM' instead of 'Auto', which I'm sure it is on now. That will do the trick. You might see an 'E' if you service provider offers EDGE, but this won't be an issue, otherwise you will just see the 'G' again.
Thank you. Now I know that in this sense, WCDMA = UMTS = "3G" icon.
Doom Tints said:
From your network type, select 'GSM' instead of 'Auto', which I'm sure it is on now. That will do the trick. You might see an 'E' if you service provider offers EDGE, but this won't be an issue, otherwise you will just see the 'G' again.
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That looks notoriously like one of my posts earlier in another thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337485
Yeah. Someone said OH MY I HOW DO I DO THIS IT'S HARD OMG and then pasted a link to your thread, which says clearly how to do it.
A simple cut and paste seemed in order.
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Hmmm...u poor guys..in Austria the speeds are different:
HSDPA : 7,2 MB (yep MegaBits) DL and 1,7 Mbits UL
BTW: HSDPA is not 3.5G its just a bunch of new coding schemes and NodeB software mods :.)
homerjay1981 said:
Hmmm...u poor guys..in Austria the speeds are different:
HSDPA : 7,2 MB (yep MegaBits) DL and 1,7 Mbits UL
BTW: HSDPA is not 3.5G its just a bunch of new coding schemes and NodeB software mods :.)
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T-Mobile UK will have these speeds by the end of 2008 all going well
Well my phone bill is the same so thats good
Text messages get sent a tiny bit faster, surfing is a bit faster. I dont see what the big deal about the HW upgrade was. oh well
i been working two days to finally get the internet to work on my phone and all i had to do was use the stylus to push the button under the cover. but now that i have a working internet for some strange reason, im not getting the H sign anymore, the best ill get is 3g. is there anything i can do to get it back?
the only thing i can think of is that i changed sim cards at att thinking it would fix the problem but it didnt until i did the reset. the sim cards are the same except the old one (iphone) is blue and the new one is yellow?
anyone know what i can do?
I don't know if my answer will help you, but sometimes i don't have the 3g icon and my 3g is working perfectly. Sometimes the icon is not showing the truth. Did you try your HSDPA or did you just see that the icon is missing wiothout trying it.
i would get the H sign in my house and i went to the city today after everything started working and i wouldnt get more than 3g, now im back home and im just getting E barely 3g. i dont get it?
isorryi said:
i would get the H sign in my house and i went to the city today after everything started working and i wouldnt get more than 3g, now im back home and im just getting E barely 3g. i dont get it?
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Ok, did u actually try to use HSDPA regardless of the icon? If u did and it didn't work, well, i guess it is a problem with the coverage of your operator or something.
I am on O2 in the UK and i get the H icon and if the HSDPA reception is not that good it switches back to G, however i have never seen the 3G icon appear which is very strange!
mkouk said:
I am on O2 in the UK and i get the H icon and if the HSDPA reception is not that good it switches back to G, however i have never seen the 3G icon appear which is very strange!
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You'll have to either disable HSDPA (Settings>Connections>Advanced Network) or go to an area with 3G but no HSDPA!
mkouk said:
I am on O2 in the UK and i get the H icon and if the HSDPA reception is not that good it switches back to G, however i have never seen the 3G icon appear which is very strange!
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As HSDPA is nothing more than faster 3g, most likely the cells in your area have all been upgraded.
isorryi said:
the only thing i can think of is that i changed sim cards at att thinking it would fix the problem but it didnt until i did the reset.
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AT&T does not really like for your phones to show the difference between the arrays that are at 1.8, 3.6 and 7.2.
They'd rather disguise it if at all possible.
You might have defaulted some settings that you or somebody else had changed, which settings you're unaware of. For example, your default setting might be to not use or recognise the 7.2 arrays, since there are very few of them anyway.
What I'd suggest is to run a few tests at dslreports.com/mspeed to see exactly what speeds you're getting when your phone is showing 3G. If your results approximate those of other people at the same location, I really wouldn't worry about whether your phone is showing 3G or H.
Just because you're not showing H doesn't mean that you're just on UMTS.
the G sign stands for gprs. thats what i get as im not in a 3g area
DOWNLOAD SPEEDS:
Icon "G" = GPRS (2.5G) = 171.2 kbps max
Icon "3G" = WCDMA (3G) = 384 kbps 512 kbps 2024 kbps
Icon "H" = HSDPA (3.5G) = 1800 kbps 3600 kbps 7200 kbps 14400 kbps
Don't blame your phone
He is only displaying what your operator beams...
im getting speeds of like 1100 kb/sec.
im so mad because i finally get my internet to work and NOW im not gettin HSDPA.
could it be that i got a different sim card from ATT?
I am using the same SIM card I used with my old EDGE phone
No need to change SIM unless your carrier forces you to do so
but im saying i think i was getting HSDPA on my other sim card and not on this one, i dunno why.
I have a question regarding the HSDPA on the TMOUS HD2. I used a Diamond back in Germany and when I was in an area with HSDPA reception it was indicated by a "H" in the taskbar. Now I am using the HD2 in Baltimore. From what I`ve read there should be HSDPA available arround here (especially since I am in Downtown B`more) however I only get the 3G symbol in the taskbar. I have also been in DC over the weekend and it was the same only 3G. But I am quite sure they have the HSDPA network available there. Does that mean my HD2 doesn`t get the faster HSDPA speeds at all?
I did a speed test using mobilespeedtest.com and IE.8 teethered WiFi connection on a Windows 7 system. My results in Downtown Baltimore are: "Your speed: 1428.571 Kbps Your latency: 0.561 seconds Transferred 100 KB in 0.56 seconds". With a 4 bars 3G symbol instead of a H in the taskbar. Aren't this speeds you would expect on a HSDPA network? I am running the original stock ROM on my HD2 by the way.
I am pretty sure most carriers use 3G with hspda enhancements, aka 3.5g, which would allow the speed above 3G's cap (364 kbps). As far as why your phone states H instead of 3G, it is dependent on the phone and icon set your phone uses. Some roms will show 3G and others will show H.
where do you find the HSPDA settings? I know they were somewhere but I can't find them!
I think the 3G/HSDPA is weird on the HD2. I can sit in one place and watch it change from Edge to HSDPA without moving the phone (and sometimes a random 3g will show up).
It definitely sounds like you have HSDPA since those are some nice speeds. Mine says 'H' and I get around 780kbps, so you're double that. As long as you have a fast data transfer (and you do) I wouldn't worry =)
Svegetto said:
I think the 3G/HSDPA is weird on the HD2. I can sit in one place and watch it change from Edge to HSDPA without moving the phone (and sometimes a random 3g will show up).
It definitely sounds like you have HSDPA since those are some nice speeds. Mine says 'H' and I get around 780kbps, so you're double that. As long as you have a fast data transfer (and you do) I wouldn't worry =)
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I was in Las Vegas Convention recently, and witnessed the power of HSPA+.
HOLY CRAP. Why can't we have that speed ALL over the world?
I was always under the impression 3G was better than H. Perhaps it's a good thing then that mine's usually H then! Where does E fit into the speed scale?
E = Edge. the slowest.
actually GPRS is even slower than EDGE
if i remember EDGE = 500kbps
GPRS = 360kbps
GRPS = 2G
EDGE = 2.5G (sorta)
3G = 3G
H (HSDPA) = 3.5G
I've installed a couple of the CM 5 ROMS based on the threads that say works on Fender. However, I am having the worst time with 3G. Downloading from the market is painfully slow and many apps will not work, because they rely on a 3G signal. For example, T-Mobile Visual Voicemail will not load. I cannot find a fix. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Any solutions? CM 5.07 test 2.
I am noticing the same thing. I also can't access the apn list. It just gives me an error.
So frustrating. The ROM is great, but without 3G, it's worthless. And I can't search for networks either.
Yep that the exact same feeling here.
I think I might have a solution. Type this in to the dialer *#*#4636#*#* then go to phone information and then scroll down to were it says "set preferred network type" then select wcdma only. Let it drop the radio connection then it should connect to 3g. After that you should be able to reset it to wcdma preferred. This fixed my 3g.
My 3G works fine for me. But it shows as HSPDA instead.
Thats what I get now, but we weren't getting that earlier.
shadowofzeus said:
I think I might have a solution. Type this in to the dialer *#*#4636#*#* then go to phone information and then scroll down to were it says "set preferred network type" then select wcdma only. Let it drop the radio connection then it should connect to 3g. After that you should be able to reset it to wcdma preferred. This fixed my 3g.
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Thanks, dude! While 3G isn't perfect, it's much better now. I really appreciate it.
Not a problem just found it trolling around the forum.
In the newest Cyanogen 5.0.7-test2, the H symbol really means EDGE. Just download Firerat's voice and data fix and flash that. It will fix up the spotty 3G that you are receiving.
My 3G is working fine I just had to flash the kernel for Cyanogen 5.0.7 Test 1 to fix the battery drain
I don't think that is true because that is what pops up when you switch it to wcdma. If you switch it to edge it shows E so I am sure it is 3g, also a quick speed test tests at 3g speeds.
3G = 364 KBPS connection
HSDPA (also called 3.5G) = 1.5 = 3 MBPS connection
BrutalDrew said:
3G = 364 KBPS connection
HSDPA (also called 3.5G) = 1.5 = 3 MBPS connection
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So, should we use 3G or HSDPA? I still get random network errors on 3G, but the connection is so much better than before applying the firerat update, fixing permissions, and using the method shadowofzeus suggested. To be clear, the last is what helped.
from my understanding is that HSDPA is the next step up from 3G. this rom just opened up the phone to being able to support the higher speeds.
UberMario said:
In the newest Cyanogen 5.0.7-test2, the H symbol really means EDGE. Just download Firerat's voice and data fix and flash that. It will fix up the spotty 3G that you are receiving.
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Huh. I put my phone on 2g only when I'm at work to save battery (the 3g in this area sucks). I usually have it on 3g everywhere else. When I use something that needs data (twitter, browser, market) it jumps up to H, then back down to 3g when it's done transferring data.
hi freaks.
used the freaking serach option, but didn´t find anything on this.
a friend of mine from the states gifted me his mytouch 4g. i´ve got it running nicely on wifi, but don´t get any 3g connection.
is this problem known?
i´m on th eplus network here in germany, my apn settings are correct. when i am at a spot, where i get 3g with my old samsung,
and put the sim in the glacier, i only get it showing H. G in bad locations, but never more then H.
is this problem known? here in germany, we don´t have 4g yet, so i would be really glad, to get 3G working.
any tips for a noob?
also, sidenote: when i´m on H, and viewing a website, it gives me a "stripped" look without pictures etc. is this some kind of "downsizing" and known problem?
When you get that "H", think of it as "3.5G" ...it's faster than the 3G network, but slower then 4G. It means your on T-Mo's HSPA+ network.
You can also "force" 3G... download "Any Cut" from the market, open it and make a shortcut using Activity. Select Phone Info, then select "WCDMA Only". If you don't want to download it, use the dialer and put in "*#*#3646#*#*" (I think that's it...) and it will do the same thing.
Your MT4G works fine. "H" is HSDPA or HSPA+, which is as said "3.5G" and is exactly what this phone supports.
It doesn't show you "4G" (which is only a marketing gimmick by itself - HSPA+ isn't a true 4G anyway), because it has no way to separate HSDPA and HSPA+.
great. thanks for the quick anwser.
i found a list for the speedsymbols, might be of interest for other noobs.
H = HSDPA je nach Netzbetreiber und Standort max. 1,8 oder 3,6 oder 7,2 Mbit/s
3G = UMTS max. 384 kbit/s
E = EDGE max. 220 kbit/s
G = GPRS max. 56 kbit/s
i was already asuming the glacier can´t handle 3G, only 4G..
the thing is, on my samsung galaxy it shows 3G and same sim in glacier shows H, wich ment, that the glacier had "stronger" signal. might bee. does the glacier have no 3G symbol at all?
why i was wondering, does anyone recognize this "downsized" internetbrowsing? i´m using dolphin browser, and evrything looks like an early tex only wepage.
unfortunately, i´m right now in a rural area, where i don´t have H or 3G, but will do speedtests tomorrow on both phones to compare.
under settings-wirelesss n networks - mobile networks.
i got that "wmcda" or gsm or both (auto) also, was already wondering, what that might be, so i´m gonna try that also 2moro.
-edit: found the fix for "downsized" browsing, google was forcing me to mobile view of wikipedia etc. never had that on my other phone..
Glacier has 3G symbol, but if you have the "mobile network constantly connected" option set to "On" and your cellular carrier supports it - it can stay on "H" constantly. Many stock ROMs don't show "H" at all, and only show "3G", to avoid just the type of reaction that started this thread So check if the Galaxy (S?) shows "H" at all, it probably doesn't.
Dolphin might have the option to show Mobile view and an option to skip downloading pics. Check that both options, if exist, are "Off".
i assume, u mean "enable always-on mobile data" it was checked, will test it unchecked 2moro and then see, if it shows 3G, as i neverever saw it...
i still got the customrom, but already lurking around the different custom ones threads
if i don´t get t-mobile tv running (just started a new thread for that), i see no need for tmobile rom...
yes, my galaxy (3) shows H, but mostly (only as i know now) 3G in the citycenters, and the mt4g in the same location shows H... really got to speedtest that stuff...
found-the dolphin fix already, as posted, google and wikipedia forced me to mobile view.. now, a day later, (and sober), i see the switch to normal view link all the way down
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i assume, u mean "enable always-on mobile data" it was checked, will test it unchecked 2moro and then see, if it shows 3G, as i neverever saw it...
i still got the customrom, but already lurking around the different custom ones threads
if i don´t get t-mobile tv running (just started a new thread for that), i see no need for tmobile rom...
yes, my galaxy (3) shows H, but mostly (only as i know now) 3G in the citycenters, and the mt4g in the same location shows H... really got to speedtest that stuff...
found-the dolphin fix already, as posted, google and wikipedia forced me to mobile view.. now, a day later, (and sober), i see the switch to normal view link all the way down
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Roms contain the 3G, H, 4G, evdo/cdma, 2g, edge, icons....But you'll only see 3G when connected to UMTS, and H shows for HSPA+. Depending on signal strength you'll see a different icon in status bar. The major US carriers that use GSM consider HSPA+ 4G, this is false but they've made it as a fact....
"The ITU announced in December 2010 that WiMax, LTE, and HSPA+ are 4G technologies."
in germany we call that "Mogelpackung"
edit. just updated to gingerbread, and now got a 2G logo, where before there was only the G ????
never saw or heard of that in germany, as quoted above, we have only 4 speeds..
this is getting more excited. perhaps tomorrow i might even see 3G
handyheld said:
in germany we call that "Mogelpackung"
edit. just updated to gingerbread, and now got a 2G logo, where before there was only the G ????
never saw or heard of that in germany, as quoted above, we have only 4 speeds..
this is getting more excited. perhaps tomorrow i might even see 3G
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2G=Edge, I'm sure Germany has Edge data now, and G=GPRS or 1G.
obviously this phone isn't made for germany.. after the gingerbread update, it eather shows 2G or 4G, where we even't have 4G in germany.. speedtest shows 1294kb thats not much, but more then I expected... thx god. I know now, that 3g is working, wether it shows it or not..
in the speedtest details, it shows H, where the fon showed a 4G. so guys, be warned, when travelling.abroad, nothing is what it seems..
tmobile, the former state company deutsche post got still ” beamtenprobleme”
handyheld said:
in the speedtest details, it shows H, where the fon showed a 4G. so guys, be warned, when travelling.abroad, nothing is what it seems..
tmobile, the former state company deutsche post got still ” beamtenprobleme”
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http://www.telekom.com/dtag/cms/content/dt/en/6908
If the company has HSPA+ in the US, does it not have it in europe?
How international roaming works, and why your device matters
Four frequencies (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) are used for wireless services worldwide. 3G frequencies include: 2100 3G; 1700/2100 3G.
Each phone has a radio transmitter-receiver that works on one frequency (single-band) or on more than one frequency (multi-band).
Since frequencies vary from carrier to carrier and country to country, you’ll need a device for international roaming that works on the frequency where you're traveling. If you have a “quad-band” device, it will work virtually anywhere there’s a wireless signal.
nope, no hpspa+ in germany, and I don`t think it`ll come.
they are just in the beginning of setting up LTE here.