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Best Buy pre-order on 02/17/2011 for a whooping $1199.99

WTF? Unless it can wash my car on Sundays I will pass.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/motorola-xoom-up-for-pre-order-at-best-buy-for-1-199/
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1200 bucks is outrageous. I'm curious what the previous print leak means though. Could it be a subsidized price or is this pre-order just a mistake or a test to see how many people pre-order it at that price?
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/11/confirmed-motorola-xoom-is-799-at-best-buy-1-month-data-package-required-to-unlock-wifi/

calin75 said:
WTF? Unless it can wash my car on Sundays I will pass.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/motorola-xoom-up-for-pre-order-at-best-buy-for-1-199/
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Just saw that.
It can't be right... can it? $800 was already $100 too much.

It better be wrong or they just lost me.

Wow. I defended the $800 pricetag. NO WAY will I defend that one. Guess ill stick with my nookie until a cheaper alternative arrives. And there will be. Still sucks though. Guess they gotta pay fir the superbowl add. Hah!
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i assume for that price its the version that poops golden turds.
and rubs your gentlemen area while making ice cream.
in all seriousness they prolly want us to say when the device comes out
"800 bucks isnt that much you should have seen it a week ago"
failmoto

bahaha, 1200? My ONLY guess is 1200 is the unsubsidized price... I bet the original 800 (that some were defending) are starting to rethink that position on motorola. I thought 800 was outrageous.
I can guarantee the cost to make this tablet is in the 300-400$(not including research/development) range... Completely ridiculus. Motorola have fun playing dmg control and losing stock value on monday, you deserve it.
Edit: apparently there is news its just a place holder... Why would you do that to an unofficial "flagship" product, nonetheless that has already been involved in controversy...

I guess I'll have to stick with the Galaxy Tab for a bit longer.

According to AndroidCentral, its a decent possibility that the price is a worst case placeholder.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-xoom-1199-best-buy-probably-not-least-we-hope-not
On the list of things I don't worry about, pre-launch pricing at Best Buy is one of them. Anyone who's anyone knows full well that they're usually set sky high as a placeholder and then change once the device is released. We'll certainly hedge, however, in light of the other pricing leaks we've seen on the Motorola Xoom and say that anything's possible. But we're not freaking out just yet.
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Well I left my 1star review

Oi!
Motorola: "Hey guys, I just had a great idea! How about we set a $1199.99 place holder price so people will think that the $800 we were ripping them for was a great deal."
Worst.Marketing.Ever.
No need for the place holder price since I'm fairly certain these won't be flying off the shelves, other than the 20 something people on this forum who are apparently buying one NO MATTER WHAT THE COST, lol.

Engadget is now saying that it's just a placeholder, and the price will be the $800 after all.
Can't help but wonder if is some sort of psychological trick: temporarily inflate the price to make the already too-expensive price look like a bargin in comparison.

Xevilious said:
Engadget is now saying that it's just a placeholder, and the price will be the $800 after all.
Can't help but wonder if is some sort of psychological trick: temporarily inflate the price to make the already too-expensive price look like a bargin in comparison.
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This whole thing has been a cluster from day one...

Xevilious said:
Engadget is now saying that it's just a placeholder, and the price will be the $800 after all.
Can't help but wonder if is some sort of psychological trick: temporarily inflate the price to make the already too-expensive price look like a bargin in comparison.
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If it is, this is the WORST marketing strategy EVER.
I think BestBuy ruined this product.

Its a placeholder price, engadget updated the article. It will be $800, but verizon does require a month of service.
Given the markup, I wonder if I can talk bestbuy into either selling it without or at a lower price. I refuse to bow to the monthly service. We have to draw the line somewhere.
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Well I left my 1star review
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Same here... 1-star review
The Xoom world is holding their breath in hopes that $1199 is a placeholder!
Engadget link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/motorola-xoom-up-for-pre-order-at-best-buy-for-1-199/
Update: We've heard rumblings that this is indeed just a place holder -- much like the way other companies price products they don't want to sell at ridiculous levels -- and the final price will indeed be the $800 we've heard most consistently to this point.
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kenyu73 said:
Same here... 1-star review
The Xoom world is holding their breath in hopes that $1199 is a placeholder!
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/motorola-xoom-up-for-pre-order-at-best-buy-for-1-199/
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Isn't a little premature to be giving out 1-star reviews before the item has even been released?

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Isn't a little premature to be giving out 1-star reviews before the item has even been released?
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Not anymore then Best Buy posting the device for $1199 prematurely. The negative reviews are for the price so the reviews are very relevant.
Chances are BB will wipe the reviews before the Xoom goes live anyhow.

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Isn't a little premature to be giving out 1-star reviews before the item has even been released?
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Not at all

Badger2point0 said:
Oi!
Motorola: "Hey guys, I just had a great idea! How about we set a $1199.99 place holder price so people will think that the $800 we were ripping them for was a great deal."
Worst.Marketing.Ever.
No need for the place holder price since I'm fairly certain these won't be flying off the shelves, other than the 20 something people on this forum who are apparently buying one NO MATTER WHAT THE COST, lol.
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You are absolutely right. There was such an uproar over the $800 price that they think people will be relieved when the $1,200 price comes down. Not buyin' it, Motorola!

Atrix is a dud

Looks like Motorola's decision to lock the bootloader is coming back to bite them in the ass. That's what they get for turning their backs on the developement community. It was the developement community that made the original Droid such a success but Motorola is too stupid to realise it.
http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/...lity-xoom-atrix-both-duds-pacific-crest-says/

I highly doubt the locked bootloader has much to do with it.. Only a small percentage of consumers know what a bootloader is.. All manufacturers are going to be locking down their phones.. HTC did with the Thunderbolt and it's doing very well.. I think it has more to do with price anyway.. That article mentions the XOOM too and its unlockable, but way out when it comes to price point..
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Don't underestimate the importance of the developement community. The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125. The Thunderbolt bootloader was cracked a long time ago wasn't it?
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go ask samsung how well the nexus s was selling lol

Exador said:
Don't underestimate the importance of the developement community. The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125. The Thunderbolt bootloader was cracked a long time ago wasn't it?
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not locked to the same level. HTC is just starting to lock down it's devices.

This has pretty much nothing to do with the bootloader and everything to do with usage and price.
The specs on the Atrix are awesome, but they are also far beyond what a normal consumer needs at this point so they aren't really taken into consideration.
The Inspire is a great phone that performs really well. When you hold and use both phones in the store, and you aren't a tech geek, it becomes hard to justify spending an extra $100 on the Atrix.
This isn't even taking into account a cheap iPhone 3G at $50, or any of the other smartphones that run well and cost quite a bit less.

I'd be interested to know if the analyst quoted in the article actually used the word "dud", or if the reporter used it as his interpretation of what the analyst said. And saying that a product's sales are “well below forecast” isn't particularly meaningful without knowing what the forecast was, just like a company claiming that sales "far exceeded expectations."
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.

GoodFoot said:
I'd be interested to know if the analyst quoted in the article actually used the word "dud", or if the reporter used it as his interpretation of what the analyst said. And saying that a product's sales are “well below forecast” isn't particularly meaningful without knowing what the forecast was, just like a company claiming that sales "far exceeded expectations."
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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Exactly people don't know about its ability as a phone alone.
I also agree with the OP. The dev community made the droid strong. This is what motorola deserves for locking the bootloader.

I think the best thing i've seen said about it in a review (which i think was just a Youtube review or something) was that it's basically the only future-proof phone on the market right now.... namely because of the dual core CPU.
Dud? I doubt it. Yea.... it doesn't sell as well as some phones.... but then again.... not everybody buys their phone because there's a piece of fruit on the back and a media player OS on the inside.
And no.... the idea of the locked bootloader would not be a deal-breaker. As it's been said... the majority of people don't even know what the bootloader is. Yea.... it may seem like a big deal if you're browsing around in tech community forums... but not so much in the real world or other forums. Take for instance a quick google search for "jailbreak/root poll"... just as an example as to how much the ability to crack your phone matters to people
Neowin.net:
Do you root/jailbreak your device?
Yes = 67 votes
No = 17 votes
Know how to, but don't want to = 9 votes
What is rooting/jailbreaking? = 1 vote
Going by that... you may say that rooting/jailbreaking is a HUGE factor on phone sales.
HomeTheaterLounge.com:
Is your Smartphone rooted/jailbroken?:
Yes = 7
No = 15
Bored and wanted to vote in a poll = 2
Not quite as drastic a result.... but also not nearly as many votes. I mean.... when you have people asking why the iPhone 4 doesn't use the 4G network because from what they understand it's the iPhone 4G.... do you REALLY think that the majority of the country/world is seeing a hackable bootloader as being a major selling point, when the majority could care less about even a simple root/jailbreak?

Exador said:
The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125.
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Or $24 at CarToys - argh!

Another consideration might be the advertising which presents "it's a phone, or a computer, or a phone" - which probably gets even some non-techies excited. Only to find that for that phone your talking $500 and another $240 per year to tether a dumb device to it ... very unfortunate.
Price the Lapdog (!) right (say $1-150), and do not charge tethering for something which is in no way increasing bandwidth use or enabling a second person to do anything on the data connection - and you might have a lot more takers, techie and otherwise.

GoodFoot said:
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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Well Its already $99 at amazon wireless.

Yeah, I'd really like the reason for low sales to be the bootloader... but I honestly doubt that very much. The phone is really a great value at $200, by itself, but few people understand how much better it performs than the iPhone 4 because it is not marketed as a stand-alone device. The laptop dock is far too expensive for the average end user, and tethering charges are high as well as unwarranted.
Also, I think its presence on AT&T hurts Motorola a great deal. Most AT&T customers naturally equate "smartphone" with "iPhone", and see Android devices as mere iPhone wannabes. I would expect more of the Bionic on Verizon, though the lack of early hype for the Atrix won't help any. And naturally, if I were on Verizon, I'd be pretty pissed to be offered only half the RAM.

Lol 10 to one odds The author Eric savitz is on xda
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It seems like a decent Android phone (IMHO). I'm waiting for Gingerbread to get to the device. I might be waiting a while, but it would be a better user experience with that version of the software.
Is it a Dud? Don't think so having owned 3 Android phones (first with MotoBlur though).

best dud ive ever had

Yep.... even better dud than my previous phone..... you know.... one of those phones with some fruit on the back...... and commonly mistaken for a 4G-capable phone....

Yeah. I spent an hour the other night trying to convince the guy with the fruit phone that it did not/could not use the ATT 4G network. I finally gave up.

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Yeah. I spent an hour the other night trying to convince the guy with the fruit phone that it did not/could not use the ATT 4G network. I finally gave up.
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Coulda settled that with one word. Specifications. TADA! lol

Just a quick question what is all this talk about tethering charges?? Is this an American thing??? I have an AT&T atrix unlocked to Rogers using a laptop dock I bought from the source (in Canada) I am able to use the LTD without getting g charged for tethering... in fact I don't even understand why that would be considered tethering there is not supposed to be any internal components in the LTD except the extra battery so what are you tethering ??? The display??? Makes no sense...

Trying to trade my iphone4 for an sgs2 so difficult

I have contacted 15 separate people on eBay with buy it nows available, only for them to tell me they have already setup a purchase of an iPhone 4 or already have an iPhone 4 and prefer it to the sgs2 so are not interested in my iPhone obviously...
Starting to get concerned perhaps the sgs2 is not as good as I am thinking, would it be for me

Maybe they don't want to trade an SG2 for an iPhone 4 because the SG2 is a better phone and they'd be getting robbed.
Seriously, the iPhone 4 is nearly a year old and the hardware is inferior to the SG2. You'd have to be stupid to trade straight across for an iPhone 4.
Price is also a factor. You can buy a brand new iPhone 4 for $600 unlocked. An SG2 is $700.

if you are stuck in stubborn ios mode, then no android phone would be right for you. thats probably why there are some ppl that wouldn't give up their iphone for anything. thats what it comes down to, youre comparing apples with oranges. on the hardware side, its a dead given which phone is better.

sell it i just sell mine yesterday with best offer for 535$ and buy the galaxy s2

Maybe you should sell the iPhone for cash and buy a new Galaxy S2?
Thats what I did, I've even made $50 for doing that.

I just sold my iphone 4 on ebay for $625 Australian, the one is 2-3 months old. Apple hold there price well. Wonder what a 1 month old gs2 would go for?
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Unless you are some apple fanboy, or have some liking to apple's offerings, or you just got some fault sgs 2, then why the hell would you trade a sgs 2 for an iphone, when the sgs 2 is practically 2x the specs.

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I have contacted 15 separate people on eBay with buy it nows available, only for them to tell me they have already setup a purchase of an iPhone 4 or already have an iPhone 4 and prefer it to the sgs2 so are not interested in my iPhone obviously...
Starting to get concerned perhaps the sgs2 is not as good as I am thinking, would it be for me
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anyone else would have made the opposite statement tho.. logic 'n stuff lol.

I just sold a white 16 gb iPhone 4 for 703 USD so it can be done. Make sure to jailbreak and unlock it and be willing to ship worldwide
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to the op, idk, the jump from iphone to sgs2 is scary, but i'll be enjoying mine when it comes in the mail rather than sitting and killing myself wondering "what if".
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...Apple hold there price well. Wonder what a 1 month old gs2 would go for?
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thats because the market isn't flooded with so many different ios devices like android is.

The reason why them retailers prefer iPhone to SGS2 currently because they have huge unsold stock of iPhones needing to be cleared in view of iPhone 5. So they will try to push it to you, while SGS2 might just reach a state of short supply soon.
Pretty standard selling practice. I had someone recommend me SGS instead of the SGS2 "because its better", right...

Deprecation

Im going to go on a 24 month contract, looking at S3 or maybe the One X. What I'm worried about though is I bought my current Sensation XE SIM free for £450, about 6 months ago and now they are selling for about £200-250 I think.
Will the S3 keep its value better? How did the S2 hold value? New to Android, had iPhones before which Sid hold value well I thought
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The second buy a smartphone it is basically worth half what you paid for it. Fact of life. Doesnt really matter what you buy.
If you happen to buy something good though it will maintain that value for a year probably.
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Expect the S3 to quickly lose value after autumn where superior devices will be released... Performance wise this device is sadly not as future proof as the S2 was at its release.

hefonthefjords said:
The second buy a smartphone it is basically worth half what you paid for it. Fact of life. Doesnt really matter what you buy.
If you happen to buy something good though it will maintain that value for a year probably.
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Except for an iphone.
Depending on how you got it, it actually rauses in price.
$1 gets you a reply

Certain phones are more desirable than others and therefore hold their value well on ebay and such.
GS2 is still one of the more desirable ones and can be sold for £250+ on ebay or recycled for £230. (after around 18 months)
Personally I reckon the GS3 will be just as popular and will hold its resale value well.
Obviously it's not in the iphone levels, but normal consumers know the galaxy s brand and it will probably stay in relatively high demand until the GS4
I see the HTC One X selling for £300 BNIB on ebay.. Although it's an excellent phone, I don't think it will be as lucky as the GS3

only apple products keep their market value because of the fact that apple uses price fixing tactics.

Yeh Apple do keep better price, I don't think I'll buy another or brand new again unless part of a contract as looks like I'm going to lost about £225, 50% after 6months

Sad fact
It is actually a sad fact to see the Galaxy S series loses value more than the iPhone series, simply because I think that Galaxy is so much better in terms of flexibility and "mod-ibility".

Apple products hold their value better because there are alot of idiots with more money than sense.

AndreiLux said:
Expect the S3 to quickly lose value after autumn where superior devices will be released... Performance wise this device is sadly not as future proof as the S2 was at its release.
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Not necessarily true, the SGSII hasn't lost a lot of it's value just look online therefore i doubt the GS3 will

Depreciation.
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Kailkti said:
Except for an iphone.
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Certain phones are more desirable than others and therefore hold their value well on ebay and such.
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Slight correction: phones with less competition better maintain their price (because there are fewer alternatives). The moment that viable competitors come out, the price will drop.
The iPhone is sufficiently differentiated, through brand alone, that many consumers are willing to consider it apart from all the competition. And Apple is smart enough to limit competition with itself by only releasing once in a gray moon. (Also by suing the hell out of everyone who has the audacity to release a rectangular phone.) So there you go.
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Yeh Apple do keep better price, I don't think I'll buy another or brand new again unless part of a contract as looks like I'm going to lost about £225, 50% after 6months
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You could be on the receiving end of this trend if you want; just wait a few months and you can buy it for hella cheap. It's sort of a gamble though; the Galaxy S2 held up price pretty well (it's differentiation was probably beat only by the iPhone or the Note), and it remains to see whether the S3 can do the same.

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Depreciation.
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Or... defecation.

thebobp said:
Slight correction: phones with less competition better maintain their price (because there are fewer alternatives). The moment that viable competitors come out, the price will drop.
The iPhone is sufficiently differentiated, through brand alone, that many consumers are willing to consider it apart from all the competition. And Apple is smart enough to limit competition with itself by only releasing once in a gray moon. (Also by suing the hell out of everyone who has the audacity to release a rectangular phone.) So there you go.
You could be on the receiving end of this trend if you want; just wait a few months and you can buy it for hella cheap. It's sort of a gamble though; the Galaxy S2 held up price pretty well (it's differentiation was probably beat only by the iPhone or the Note), and it remains to see whether the S3 can do the same.
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Fair enough but I would suggest that the Galaxy S series has reached some level of brand recognition..so that when lay consumers (rather than us tech geeks) think of the best phones available, they think first of the iphone and then of the galaxy S series.
I reckon that after the initial depreciation (from selling second hand), the GS3 will hold its value well until the next GS phone..
Or at least I hope it will because I'll be getting a GS3 once it comes out!

The Galaxy S II was so good because it was better then every other phone on the market, the Galaxy S III is just a bit better, or at least on par with other phones now.

What other phone is faster than the SG3? What other phone dose what the SG3 dose?
Anyhow the SG2 is still selling for loads and even phone recycle places pay over £200

50% drop?
Then that means it is down more than 50%

juDGEY2k10 said:
What other phone is faster than the SG3? What other phone dose what the SG3 dose?
Anyhow the SG2 is still selling for loads and even phone recycle places pay over £200
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Not right now, but just wait and see. Even the dualcore S4 Krait matches its speed on certain tests, there will be more ARM's A15 chips coming in near the future.
That is not to say its a bad phone, but it's not a major leap like the SII was. The price is already a give away imo, $700 after VAT, so before that its cheaper. The Nexus and Note was $800 when they were released. I think that's simply a good thing though since phones were getting too expensive. We have the OneX at $600, S3 at $700, Nexus at $400. I think its positive for consumers, could be $50 lower still.
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When I saw the title I was wondering what's being condemned.

Will the N6 have sales and price drops like the Moto X?

Personally, I'm leaning toward yes on this question given the history of the Galaxy Nexus. However, I wanted to get the thoughts of others here on the forums. I really want to wait, but I'm finding it hard.

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Personally, I'm leaning toward yes on this question given the history of the Galaxy Nexus. However, I wanted to get the thoughts of others here on the forums. I really want to wait, but I'm finding it hard.
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No price drop at all on playstore for N4 and N5

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No price drop at all on playstore for N4 and N5
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Well the gnex started at $649 and eventually went to $399 on the play store. The n4 and the n5 started even lower than that at $299 and $349 respectively. There is a big difference. I'm not saying you are wrong, just trying to get us to consider all the facts.

I called my psychic and she said yes.

No not with those specs

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I called my psychic and she said yes.
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No magic 8 ball? Lol

I guess I had to join the voice....
Nope, the same treatment will be needed for all previous Nexus, which Google ACTUALLY does, but not carrier-oriented procedure.
But taking in mind that the Nexus 5 will be the first on be more than a full year on the market, the drop of price will definitely go for it first than anything.

I doubt it will have price drops this year, i have been in contact with a supplier and he says its a premium price with those specs, motorola has been strict with specific details till november.

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specs mean nothing in android world.
op just wait 1-2 months and you can find this phone for $500 easily.

I don't k ow, N5 is still the same as the release date.
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specs mean nothing in android world.
op just wait 1-2 months and you can find this phone for $500 easily.
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Thats why google is charging and arm and a leg for it? lol YOu mean to tell me they would have sold it at this price with they had just came out with the same similar spec as N5?
Google will NOT make it cheaper. Third party sellers is another thing
If specs are nothing in the android world, you my dear friend need to go get an iphone. Thats why people are crying because Note 4 nor S5 is 4gb of ram. Thats why people are crying cause G3 is 801 not 805. Thats why people are crying cause the huge Note 4 is not BIGGER or the z3 is not BIGGER.
Just because specs to you are nothing, does not mean how the rest of the android users feel
The op wait 6 months, he will find it else were cheaper, even on swapper cheaper...but he sure as well wont get it from google cheaper

Wait a couple of months. A lot of people with will use their $200 upgrade and flip the phone on EBay for $500 to $550. You can find a brand new LG G3 for $400 on EBay and that phone hasn't been out that long.
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mgbotoe said:
Thats why google is charging and arm and a leg for it? lol YOu mean to tell me they would have sold it at this price with they had just came out with the same similar spec as N5?
Google will NOT make it cheaper. Third party sellers is another thing
If specs are nothing in the android world, you my dear friend need to go get an iphone. Thats why people are crying because Note 4 nor S5 is 4gb of ram. Thats why people are crying cause G3 is 801 not 805. Thats why people are crying cause the huge Note 4 is not BIGGER or the z3 is not BIGGER.
Just because specs to you are nothing, does not mean how the rest of the android users feel
The op wait 6 months, he will find it else were cheaper, even on swapper cheaper...but he sure as well wont get it from google cheaper
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The fact that it has high end specs mean nothing when it comes to phone holding value over time. Google will never drop the price via the playstore but as the previous guy said, many users who will get it via contract subsidy for $200, will sell it for $550 new on ebay.
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NardVa said:
Wait a couple of months. A lot of people with will use their $200 upgrade and flip the phone on EBay for $500 to $550. You can find a brand new LG G3 for $400 on EBay and that phone hasn't been out that long.
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Exactly!
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NardVa said:
Wait a couple of months. A lot of people with will use their $200 upgrade and flip the phone on EBay for $500 to $550. You can find a brand new LG G3 for $400 on EBay and that phone hasn't been out that long.
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Wont that result in you buying a phone that is tied to someone else's contract and whatnot...?!
Ive never phone a phone from those circumstances so i would assume that to be the case and you would have to go and check to make sure its clean and ready to go. seems like a lot of time/work...but idk

Poke_N_PDA said:
Personally, I'm leaning toward yes on this question given the history of the Galaxy Nexus. However, I wanted to get the thoughts of others here on the forums. I really want to wait, but I'm finding it hard.
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I don't want to wait,I will get iphone 6 plus.

kinfolk248 said:
Wont that result in you buying a phone that is tied to someone else's contract and whatnot...?!
Ive never phone a phone from those circumstances so i would assume that to be the case and you would have to go and check to make sure its clean and ready to go. seems like a lot of time/work...but idk
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There is a risk that the phone you buy is blacklisted. I normally check the person's feedback and look at their EBay rating. Most people that have a long history of selling stuff on EBay want be looking to scam you.
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