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So I'm wondering if there is a micro SD card slot then do you really need to buy the 32gb version? It appears that the current math among tablet manufacturer's is $100 for 16gb of memory which is obviously a joke. So if i buy the 16gb version and then buy a 16gb sd card ($25) do I effectively come out with the same thing for $75 cheaper?
Depends how you use it. I think it will behave like the Samsung Galaxy S in that the built in memory will appear as a different location to the external memory. Files cannot span both locations and thus your file may not fit even though the total combined free space you have left is larger than the file you are trying to copy.
well if thats the case then in general it will work just fine. Chances arent very good that i'm going to have some massive file on there.
Internal memory is probably faster than 25$ microSD card.
You could spend $90 on a Class 10 32GB card and be looking pretty good.
there you go, 32 gb for the price they are offering 16gigs. sounds good to me. not only that but you can spread that cost. Drop the $499 now, wait a couple months and get the micro sd later. thanks for the info
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Internal memory is probably faster than 25$ microSD card.
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On my galaxy s, my class 4 micro sd card is as quick is the internal memory. I'm sure the tab will allow quicker speeds but it's worth noting that a class 4 card is sufficiently fast enough to play back 1080p without problems. If you want to save time transferring files between tablet and pc then fair enough but I would personally save money and get a class 4 and make a cup of tea while it copies
Just but the 16GB, as long as it has a micro SD slot you won't need anymore than that.
Thats pretty much what it mean, the question now is whether it will actually have an SD card slot, I have read conflicting reports that it does and does not have one.
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Thats pretty much what it mean, the question now is whether it will actually have an SD card slot, I have read conflicting reports that it does and does not have one.
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I think the conflicting reports are due to two different versions of the Tab 10.1. The version shown during the MWC does not appear to have a MicroSD card slot. The newer version shown at CTIA does have a MicroSD card slot. Most reviews are consistent with this but a few have gotten it wrong which has probably led to the confusion.
There's a number of differences between the versions but the easy to identify differences are thickness and MP of the rear camera. The first version (MWC) is 10.9mm thick and has an 8MP rear camera. The newer version (CTIA) is 8.6mm thick and has a 3MP rear camera.
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I think the conflicting reports are due to two different versions of the Tab 10.1. The version shown during the MWC does not appear to have a MicroSD card slot. The newer version shown at CTIA does have a MicroSD card slot. Most reviews are consistent with this but a few have gotten it wrong which has probably led to the confusion.
There's a number of differences between the versions but the easy to identify differences are thickness and MP of the rear camera. The first version (MWC) is 10.9mm thick and has an 8MP rear camera. The newer version (CTIA) is 8.6mm thick and has a 3MP rear camera.
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Yeah i figure thats about what happened. Hopefully we will see some detailed(confirmed) specs soon so we can know what is really driving this thing. Also, perhaps finally review the optional UI question.
Dear Samsung,
Y U NO INFORM EXCITED PUBLIC OF FINAL SPECS!
Actually, what I want is 64GB internal memory model, with or without microSD card
I prefer without, if the space can be used to a little bit more battery and/or reduce the weight!.
I am now getting used to Nexus S, the one without microSD card. To my surprise, I can live with it, comfortably
true, you probably can live without an SD card. But the reason most people will probably get a 16gb plus a 32gb SD is because its cheaper (even with the extra 32gb SD card purchase) then paying an extra $100 for a mere 16GB
I actually have a 16gb class 4 sitting around collecting dust. I'll just stick it in 16gb model
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jvs60 said:
I actually have a 16gb class 4 sitting around collecting dust. I'll just stick it in 16gb model
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there ya go
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Actually, what I want is 64GB internal memory model, with or without microSD card
I prefer without, if the space can be used to a little bit more battery and/or reduce the weight!.
I am now getting used to Nexus S, the one without microSD card. To my surprise, I can live with it, comfortably
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I wouldn't have thought removing a MicroSD card slot would save much space or weight. A MicroSD card is tiny as too the housing for the slot.
For me, the want of a MicroSD card slot is not for expanding storage space cheaply but more for being able to transfer files to/from MicroSD easily. There's many situations when I would want to do this with a MicroSD card from my other devices or it is a MicroSD card from someone else I am with. In those situations, it's sometimes easier than faffing around with cables, bluetooth or Wifi. So the slot just gives another option.
That's true. Having microSD is handy. Especially if you want to transfer a lot of files or big files.
But, my point is that no-microSD will not stop me buying a tablet
After I owned Nexus S, I don't think it is important anymore as long as the internal storage is big enough.
Again, this is my own preference
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I wouldn't have thought removing a MicroSD card slot would save much space or weight. A MicroSD card is tiny as too the housing for the slot.
For me, the want of a MicroSD card slot is not for expanding storage space cheaply but more for being able to transfer files to/from MicroSD easily. There's many situations when I would want to do this with a MicroSD card from my other devices or it is a MicroSD card from someone else I am with. In those situations, it's sometimes easier than faffing around with cables, bluetooth or Wifi. So the slot just gives another option.
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Yeah i figure thats about what happened. Hopefully we will see some detailed(confirmed) specs soon so we can know what is really driving this thing. Also, perhaps finally review the optional UI question.
Dear Samsung,
Y U NO INFORM EXCITED PUBLIC OF FINAL SPECS!
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The one released in Aust. last week is a 16GB no SD slot model. I haven't seen a confirmation of the one that has the SD slot but have heard rumours that it will be thinner and up to 32GB.
I thought the internal memory was available to both system & data doesn't this mean that the internal memory would be an ext flavour rather than a FAT?
I see your point and I have to agree that it does seem a bit cheaper just to get the 16gb model and buy a 16gb sd card unless u plan on being a data/movie packrat on ur Tab in which case you will want to get the 32gb model as well as a 32gb sd card.
I want the highest storage available period!
I don't care if it cost more. I would rather get a 32 GB and have another 32 GB of SD card storage.
I wish that there is a 64 GB version with SD card slot so that I can have 32 GB SD card to make the total of 96 GB.
I can never have enough space because I have so many HD movies that I want to store in my tablet.
I'm running deeperblue's honeycomb off an 8gb sd card on my Nook Color. Everything runs extremely slow, even things as simple as checking email, accessing the web, etc.
Any suggestions?
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I'm running deeperblue's honeycomb off an 8gb sd card on my Nook Color. Everything runs extremely slow, even things as simple as checking email, accessing the web, etc.
Any suggestions?
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Try a different SD card. Cheaper cards are generally better for running a rom because they have a faster small block read/write speed. More expensive cards are better in nearly every other aspect then what you're trying to do. I run HC (Madcat's Hybird) of a class 2 4GB Sandisk card (about $15 at Wal Mart) and it runs great. My wife's running CM7 off an identical card. Both are perfect.
I'm running HC off a PNY 8GB class 4 card, which was $24 from Best Buy. Maybe I should try to format the card and start over? Should I install CM7 on the card as well? Not sure of the process to follow - can you provide a link?
I'll bet you need a different MicroSD card to solve your performance issue, as hockeyfamily737 mentioned above.
See this thread: SD Strange-results - or - How I learned to love CM7 on SD
to find out why.
This software : Crystal Disk Mark is what we are using to test card speed.
Office Max is having a sale on SanDisk class 2/4 MicroSD cards, 8 gig size, for 12.99 a piece until saturday, might want to see if there's one around you.
Having been in the situation you are in, the MicroSD card used makes a significant difference.
Also, try downloading the app "SD Speed Increase" by Diego Stamigni. Setting the cache size to 2048kb can dramatically improve performance on the card you are using now. It's one of my must-have apps for running android from the SD card on the Nook.
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I used to run the same honeycomb version you are, but I swapped over to Dualboot Phiremod / Honeycomb Image. I run it from the sdcard, and the phiremod version of cm7 is my new daily-driver. It's a great image, you might want to check it out.
also honeycomb isnt fully reeased for AOSP so the nook version is just a port of the SDK, also maybe try a class 6 sd card? you can get a class 6 8gig for like $18 of amazon, i use a class 6 and its very fast
It seem that are still people that cannot get this to work. Most people actually stuck at creating a card w/ CWM.
I have this done relatively painless. I think most people forgot that the Nook itself is pretty much a linux machine. And with busybox, you can do dd command as well.
NOTE: this will simply wipe all your information the the microSD card.
Well you have to download both the cm-10-***.zip and sdcard-cwm-early3.img.gz files from verygreen.
Then I use 7zip to uncompress cwm file.
adb push sdcard-cwm-early3.img /data/su/
Go into the nook's System Settings > Storage Management > SD Card > Unmount SD Card.
adb shell su -c "/data/su/busybox dd if=/data/su/sdcard-cwm-early3.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk1"
remove the img file from the Nook if you wish using adb shell rm /data/su/sdcard-cwm-early3.img
**Now just wait, as this may take sometime as it write 100M+ to the sdcard. It will say something when it's done.
After that, you follow the verygreen step. What was posted above is for people who have problem creating cwm boot sd card.
Also notice that since you reboot into CWM, the current Nook ADB driver won't work, the system will recognize as a different device, you have to re-apply the driver again.
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Insert the card into the Nook and reboot the nook, CWM should start.
(This will also automatically repartition the card into a correct layout no matter the size (but no smaller than 4G).
In the CWM:
Go to "mounts and storage", choose "mount /sdcard".
Press power button to go back to the main menu.
Now do
Code:
adb push cm-10-XXXXXXXX-UNOFFICIAL-ovation.zip /sdcard
Also push whatever other zip files you want to install to /sdcard too.
(if you don't have operational adb, you can also just turn off the nook at this stage, put zip files to volume named "CM10SDCARD" (not "boot"), then put sdcard back into nook and start it again)
Next, choose "install zip from sdcard", and then "Choose zip from sdcard" and first cm-...zip, and then whatever other packages you have the need to install.
When done installing, press the power button to go one level up in the menu and then choose reboot.
This will reboot you into CM10.
If you ever need to get back to CWM later, use either "reboot to recovery" power menu, or reboot, and once B&N nook logo shows up, press and hold power and home keys together for about 4 seconds.
To reboot into stock nook software, just poweroff, remove sdcard, then poweron.
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The real purpose of this post is to spread the information of which card work and which doesn't. I hope people can report in which card(s) work for you.
I personally have tried the Lexar 32GB Class 10 card and it works w/o any problem or show any lag at all.
If I can, when people post a working card, then I'll add it to the list.
Working microSD card list:
Lexar 32GB class10
Sandisk Mobile Ultra 32GB class 10 (reported by bunodosoma)
Sandisk Extreme Pro 16GB class 10 (reported by Chi Ahrens)
GSkill 8GB class 4 (reported by Chi Ahrens)
PNY 16GB class 4 (reported by Chi Ahrens)
I used verygreen's instructions to push CM10 on a Sandisk Mobile Ultra Class 10 32gb w/o too much trouble (CWM didn't recognize 1st CM10 push,2nd went w/o a hitch). Haven't noticed any lagging yet.
SanDisk Extreme Pro 16 GB class 10 ($50) works without lag. Couple of lock ups in HD+ within 2 hour period. Constant lock ups on HD. Maybe a bad card.
SanDisk Ultra 16 GB class 10 ($16) works without lag. Stable for 5-6 days on HD+ now. No noticeable difference in speed between the Ultra and Extreme Pro.
GSkill 32GB class 10 works without lag. Sequential speed is slow, but random 4k seems descent enough where there isn't any lag. Stable for 2 days on HD.
GSkill 8GB class 4 works with lag.
PNY 16GB class 4 works with lag.
AData 32GB class 10 - somehow became unusable during the process. Garbage.
Also, in Ubuntu 12.10, adb connects to HD+ only when started as root. Otherwise you get ???????????? no permissions. Ironically, adb can see the HD even when it's not started as root.
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SanDisk Extreme Pro 16 GB class 10 ($50) works without lag. Couple of lock ups within 2 hour period.
SanDisk Ultra 16 GB class 10 ($16) works without lag. No lockups yet. Currently running with logcat. Will continue to update, but so far it looks like it's the most stable. No noticeable difference in speed between the Ultra and Extreme Pro.
GSkill 8GB class 4 works with lag.
PNY 16GB class 4 works with lag.
Also, in Ubuntu 12.10, adb connects to HD+ only when started as root. Otherwise you get ???????????? no permissions. Ironically, adb can see the HD even when it's not started as root.
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When do you see the lag ? Which specific operation ?
I did a boot time test using two different cards. Here are the results.
Start clock: When I press the power on
Stop clock: When I heard sound coming out from HD+
Sandisk: 53 seconds.
Samsung: 61 seconds.
I am not sure the performance advantage is mainly caused by 4K write performance on Sandisk card or the larger size(32GB vs 8GB) of the card.
Here are my two cards with CrystalDiskMark data, only tested 100MB data because Windows only see 109MB after CM10 is installed on the cards.
8GB Samsung class 6 micro SD card.
Read Write (MB/S)
Seq: 20.79 11.02
512K 20.25 1.071
4K 3.594 0.215
4K(qd32) 3.292 0.211
32 GB Sandisk class 4 Micro SD card
Read Write (MB/S)
Seq: 20.69 5.553
512K 20.22 3.984
4K 3.499 1.622
4K(qd32) 4.279 2.109
I have the SanDisk Ultra 64GB working without issues.
HD videos work great off it.
Plus it is formatted in ext_FAT, which allows use of the full 64GB and allows files larger than 2GB.
Works all very well in the Nook HD+.
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I have the SanDisk Ultra 64GB working without issues.
HD videos work great off it.
Plus it is formatted in ext_FAT, which allows use of the full 64GB and allows files larger than 2GB.
Works all very well in the Nook HD+.
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Wait, you have CM10 and exfat on the same card? or you reformat the last partition to exfat? I'm not clear on that.
robohofo said:
I have the SanDisk Ultra 64GB working without issues.
HD videos work great off it.
Plus it is formatted in ext_FAT, which allows use of the full 64GB and allows files larger than 2GB.
Works all very well in the Nook HD+.
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Does the nook hd+ regconize fully 64 Gb? because B&N said that its SD limitation is 32gb.
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Does the nook hd+ regconize fully 64 Gb? because B&N said that its SD limitation is 32gb.
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Yes, it see full 64GB. I have one on it as well, but I didn't try CM10 on that card.
The lag with the non-SanDisk class 10 cards is mostly felt in the browser - both the default and Dolphin. Lag in rendering html, scrolling, and also clicking links.
The SanDisk Ultra has been pretty solid however. I tried the San Disk extreme pro again to load CM10 on the HD, and it also experience random lock ups and reboots. I'm going to send that back and get another SanDisk Ultra for my HD.
The 2.0.5 update unrooted my HD, but Google Play still works without a problem. I just don't have su in the console. No big deal until I need root again. I did manage to get Chrome off of the CM10 and sideload it without a problem in 2.0.5.
My wife's HD+ has been running very happily with CM10. She's not quite as excited as I am.
Looking to get a 32GB card, what is the difference here?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 32gb micro sd class 10&qid=1356489908&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...s=sandisk+mobile+ultra+32gb+micro+sd+class+10
I can also confirm that a 64gb card is usable with theHD+ but as above, ihaven't done CM10 yet. Just got the card and wanted to make sure it was totally compatible before I did anything else.
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mzjc said:
Looking to get a 32GB card, what is the difference here?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 32gb micro sd class 10&qid=1356489908&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...s=sandisk+mobile+ultra+32gb+micro+sd+class+10
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The actual cards are the same spec, no diff. The only diff is one is bundle and the other isn't.
mzjc said:
Looking to get a 32GB card, what is the difference here?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 32gb micro sd class 10&qid=1356489908&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...s=sandisk+mobile+ultra+32gb+micro+sd+class+10
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Looks like $10 and packaging. Both the same card.
Edit: someone0 already answered. Missed that. LOL.
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To me the $10 card reader of some unknown quality isn't worth it. Save that $10 and pay extra for a better reader is what I would do.
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Yes, it see full 64GB. I have one on it as well, but I didn't try CM10 on that card.
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Ditto here, assuming exfat or of the box got the 64 ultra. But I can't quite to it with my xp machine! ?
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Ditto here, assuming exfat or of the box got the 64 ultra. But I can't quite to it with my xp machine! ?
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The nook should support exFAT out of the box, that's not the issue. The issue is that XP doesn't support either exFAT or MTP. The stock OS use MTP when connect to the PC, so you lose either way.
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The nook should support exFAT out of the box, that's not the issue. The issue is that XP doesn't support either exFAT or MTP. The stock OS use MTP when connect to the PC, so you lose either way.
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Actually, found a download by googling Windows XP exfat and there is an update that supports it: WindowsXP-KB955704-x86-ENU.exe I could read, write and format...
Chi Ahrens said:
GSkill 32GB class 10 works without lag. Sequential speed is slow, but random 4k seems descent enough where there isn't any lag. Stable for 2 days on HD.
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I second this. My GSkill card has been running flawless for two weeks now.
Sandisk 16G class 4 works fine.:victory:
Importance of 4k write speeds?
Hello, now that I've sorted out the problems with my class 10 16 gigs Sandisk card I decided that I'd better moving my setup there but since the move is quite a trouble I would like to know whether it would be worthwhile.
In other words whether the speed difference (between the two cards) is important enough (according to your experience) to every day tasks.
Here are the benchs from the card I'm currently on: http://i.imgur.com/sFVbu.png (~1Mb/s 4k writes)
And here are the ones of the one I'm thinking to move to: http://i.imgur.com/X5voM.png (~2Mb/s 4k writes)
....also if it's not to make enough of a difference (since my class 4 is already fast enough) I could/would opt to use my class 10 card as an external usb device instead (to use its fast sequential writes). So what would you recommend?
Thanks.
Hi guys, I found a little thing I thought I might share, a mod to fit a larger than 64gb sd card to the Note 10.1.
I found an sd to micro sd adatpor here - www.linitx.com/product/sdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter/11922
It is an internal sd card adaptor so fits inside the micro sd card slot of your Note 10.1. It takes 128gb or 256gb sd cards and as they are formatted exFat the Note 10.1 will run them with no problem.
I use a Zenus case so I have the sd card adaptor stuck to the back of the Note and then put back in the case to protect it. I'm sure an enterprising person out there may decide to do an internal mod but I really don't have time and this works for me...
It works fine, I'm running a 128Gb sd card with no problems.
Thought it might be of interest to you lot so posted here...
Cheers....
Glad to hear it works but if it's gonna hang out anyway, why not use a much cheaper OTG cable and a much cheaper USB stick?
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Hi guys, I found a little thing I thought I might share, a mod to fit a larger than 64gb sd card to the Note 10.1.
I found an sd to micro sd adatpor here - www.linitx.com/product/sdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter/11922
It is an internal sd card adaptor so fits inside the micro sd card slot of your Note 10.1. It takes 128gb or 256gb sd cards and as they are formatted exFat the Note 10.1 will run them with no problem.
I use a Zenus case so I have the sd card adaptor stuck to the back of the Note and then put back in the case to protect it. I'm sure an enterprising person out there may decide to do an internal mod but I really don't have time and this works for me...
It works fine, I'm running a 128Gb sd card with no problems.
Thought it might be of interest to you lot so posted here...
Cheers....
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Can you post some pictures of the actual device... Want to see if I can mod and fit into my note 3
aalupatti said:
Can you post some pictures of the actual device... Want to see if I can mod and fit into my note 3
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You can, Its where I found the link for the sd adaptor.
Here's the link to the Note 3 thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518175
Couldn't find it before....
Glad to hear it works but if it's gonna hang out anyway, why not use a much cheaper OTG cable and a much cheaper USB stick?
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I found the battery drain on the OTG was considerable.
It is very good battery life using the sd adaptor. I was watching movies and TV shows for a solid 6 1/2 hours with another 1 1/2 browsing and downloading and only got to 46% battery.
I thought I should mention I use only the 128Gb sd card but even so it has enough storage now....
wow, for real, haha, this is so good
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Perhaps I try something like this with my next phone...
Would this work for some of the SDIO cards that offer 3G/LTE connection?
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ultramag69 said:
Hi guys, I found a little thing I thought I might share, a mod to fit a larger than 64gb sd card to the Note 10.1.
I found an sd to micro sd adatpor here - www.linitx.com/product/sdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter/11922
Cheers....
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Only just seen this. Have thanked.
The OTG multicard adapter I use is a real PIA. I can't stand the Tablet up with it in the way my case is made. This looks good. [edit] Even if I only use it for 32/64GB cards ! [/edit]
Hey guys, sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I got a 256GB SD card but how can I format it to exFat?
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Hey guys, sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I got a 256GB SD card but how can I format it to exFat?
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Easeus is what I use to partition and format.
But question is will I be able to format exFat a 256GB SD card? I heard 128GB is the highest that can be exFat?
I'm debating on getting a AT&T ZTE Blade Spark or Moto E4 Plus. The Specs are pretty much same, the only thing that is different is storage size. ZTE Comes with 16GB while the E4 Plus has 32GB. I would much rather save 50% and go with the Spark but 16gb isn't much storage for apps, So can I extend the storage space using a SD Card? 16GB isn't enough space for all my apps.
you can use an sd card as internal storage since it's running nougat, so yes, you can expand it
What is the recommended Class of Sd Card?
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What is the recommended Class of Sd Card?
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OmegaUltor said:
What is the recommended Class of Sd Card?
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https://www.samsung.com/us/computin...ro-128gb-memory-card-w-adapter-mb-md128da-am/
This is the card that I use. Granted it's on the heavy side both price and capacity but so long as it's a class 10 card you should be good. Going lower just increases your chances (by a hair but still) of random failures which can muck up and afternoon.