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Xoom gets slammed by Technobuffalo vs Asus Transformer review.

Here is the link below. BS!
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/asus-eee-pad-transformer-video-review/

Meh, he hated the Xoom, a lot of bloggers hated the PlayBook. I for one, am one of the few who actually thought it was good.
EDIT: I DON'T CARE IF MY CAPS LOCK IS ON, WE NEED THAT BACKGROUND, I NEED THAT THING ON MY XOOM, that thing looks gorgeous!
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Its already on here
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Wow could that guy be more objective. Only thing I liked was the wallpaper which I have. Keyboard... if I really want a keyboard to carry around I would prefer my Bluetooth. Much better when xoom is connected to my TV. No led flash? He stated performance over and over. I have had no problems with performance. Asus has price advantage that's about all I got out of that.
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Consumer Reports rated the Xoom the second best tablet behind the iPad 2.
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Lol. The only thing I got out of that review was that the I PS display is nicer which I already knew. Other than that the xoom wins with 3/4g. Nice review.

And the keyboard is optional...costing an extra $150.
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freeky1 said:
And the keyboard is optional...costing an extra $150.
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I ordered a 16GB Eeepad Transformer with the dock for $550. Can't touch a 32GB WiFi only Xoom for that.
The guy did give a very shiny review, and may not have been completely fair to the Xoom since it has had updates since he reviewed it... but the Asus does have some value for it's price.
As someone mentioned on another forum, Moto is going to have to reevaluate the price point. When they first came out, they had no real competition in the Android tablet market. The Xoom could only really be compared to the iPad, which is pretty insanely priced.

FrayAdjacent said:
I ordered a 16GB Eeepad Transformer with the dock for $550. Can't touch a 32GB WiFi only Xoom for that.
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Really think you should compare apples to apples rather than oranges. The 32GB Transformer is $500 so still $100 cheaper than the Xoom. With dock it's $650.

burden010 said:
Really think you should compare apples to apples rather than oranges. The 32GB Transformer is $500 so still $100 cheaper than the Xoom. With dock it's $650.
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if you include the official kb for the xoom at retail - not special reduced price - it's $670 with no dock or anything included to hold it up.
minus would be no usb port for the transformer without the dock. if i were docked i'd love to hook a hard drive. minus for xoom is that you won't have usb host without root.

Hey ... What is the name of that background?
And how to get it? Via Market?
That's very nice ...

gogol said:
Hey ... What is the name of that background?
And how to get it? Via Market?
That's very nice ...
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It's in the Themes and Apps section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048959

With speech to text, which works quite a bit better on my Xoom than on my Android phone, keyboards are not nearly a necessity as they used to be. I showed a die hard Apple guy at work how STT worked on my Xoom, and he was stunned. I made sure to point out iPad and iPhone didn't have that capability.

Even tough he shouldn't have slammed the the Xoom so hard; I fully agree in his right to state what he likes best and whatnot.

The reviewer failed to understand that he was comparing against the original android version on the Xoom not the updated version that we have today. He also failed to notice the glitches in the keyboard dock that was found in the anandtech review which was a far better assessment. The build quality is not up to Motorola's level. Why do some reviewers often compare prices of a wifi only product with the 3G Xoom? Checkout the below link. Take note of his final words.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4277/asus-eee-pad-transformer-review

davidsos said:
Why do some reviewers often compare prices of a wifi only product with the 3G Xoom?
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Because a $300 premium is too much to justify just a modem.
I do agree with your other points regarding Honeycomb software versions on the Xoom. At the same time, I believe the anandtech reviewer stated that the dock was running a preproduction firmware and that Asus said that would be addressed in th final firmware.

madsquabbles said:
if you include the official kb for the xoom at retail - not special reduced price - it's $670 with no dock or anything included to hold it up.
minus would be no usb port for the transformer without the dock. if i were docked i'd love to hook a hard drive. minus for xoom is that you won't have usb host without root.
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Thank you. I was about to point this out.
The Eee Pad Dock = $149 (includes extra battery, ports, trackpad)
Moto Keyboard - 69.99 + Moto Portfolio Case - 39.99 = $110
So the difference is really $40 and you're actually getting something for that money.

I just got extremely lucky, I purchased a brand new xoom wifi on ebay. For $485. So I'm happy with the price. And for that price it's beats the 16gb transformer any day.

atoy74 said:
Because a $300 premium is too much to justify just a modem.
I do agree with your other points regarding Honeycomb software versions on the Xoom. At the same time, I believe the anandtech reviewer stated that the dock was running a preproduction firmware and that Asus said that would be addressed in th final firmware.
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Sorry, but it's $210 more for the 3g/4g Xoom than the wifi Xoom, not $300.
The wifi Xoom (at $590) is $90 more than the 32gb Transformer (at $500).
You can't compare the $400 16gb Transformer to the $800 32gb 3g/4g Xoom.
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Reviewer clearly just can't afford the XOOM and is slamming it to justify his purchase of the underdog.
Leave him to it, who cares if he likes it, hardly the most respected tech sitei n the world

3.2 XOOM or the Asus Transformer?

I am debating to get my first tablet. But having a hard time deciding if I should get the Xoom or the Asus Transformer. Or should I wait to see whats coming in the next few months...
I researched and seems that the negative reviews of the Xooms was when it first came out so wanted some feedbacks from new owners or reviewers.
Please help me decide.

Rank these if your looking at the 32 gb models
1. Build quality
2. Updates
3. Price
if #2 is price then get the transformer
If you care about 1 + 2 then get the xoom.
If your worried about it being outdated then buy it from a place with a 90 day return policy for electronics

Kippui said:
Rank these if your looking at the 32 gb models
1. Build quality
2. Updates
3. Price
if #2 is price then get the transformer
If you care about 1 + 2 then get the xoom.
If your worried about it being outdated then buy it from a place with a 90 day return policy for electronics
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I don't know how you can do better on price than $399. at Staples for the fabulous Xoom.

Important to me is features and quality. I'm stuck between the two because I do like motorla products but the features on the TF looks great too. I've heard the TF has a better screen than the Xoom too. Is the correct?
Also, is there a retailer that has 90 return that can match the staples coupon?
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hipertec said:
Important to me is features and quality. I'm stuck between the two because I do like motorla products but the features on the TF looks great too. I've heard the TF has a better screen than the Xoom too. Is the correct?
Also, is there a retailer that has 90 return that can match the staples coupon?
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The screen quality on the transformer is better. Light bleed on the transformer is a bit of an issue however.

hipertec said:
Important to me is features and quality. I'm stuck between the two because I do like motorla products but the features on the TF looks great too. I've heard the TF has a better screen than the Xoom too. Is the correct?
Also, is there a retailer that has 90 return that can match the staples coupon?
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Yea I just got the Asus today for a friend and paid $299 for that you really can't go wrong. The screen does look better and you have to ability to get the keyboard to make it a net book. She did that and I must admit its nice piece. I like my Xoom but if I had a choice since mine was purchased for me I would of gotten the TF...

okantomi said:
I don't know how you can do better on price than $399. at Staples for the fabulous Xoom.
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my post wasn't very descriptive xD maybe he might want the $399 - $100 transformer.
@ OP The transformer has that laptop thing and a better screen + price vs functionality. The xoom has it matched everywhere else. If you don't plan on rooting then we are spoon fed from google.

hipertec said:
I am debating to get my first tablet. But having a hard time
deciding if I should get the Xoom or the Asus Transformer. Or should I wait to see whats coming in the next few months...
I researched and seems that the negative reviews of the Xooms was when it first came out so wanted some feedbacks from new owners or reviewers.
Please help me decide.
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At Staples you can get the Xoom for $398. If build quality mean's anything to you then Xoom is a No Brainer. This AWESOME device does not feel cheap. Screen looks great to me and I have 5 Blu-Ray's on it and get compliments all the time, and even from other ipad2 owners. Netflix looks Great. The Xoom for me

Where did you get the tf at?
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hipertec said:
Where did you get the tf at?
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I do not know where he picked it up from but you can get it at Office Depot and they will honor the Staples coupon. Office Depot honored the coupon without any debate for me but if they do you can always point them to their policy:
http://www.officedepot.com/renderStaticPage.do?file=/customerservice/lowPrice.jsp
How does our Price Match Guarantee work for in-store purchases?
If you find a lower price at another store on a new, identical item, show us the lower price at the time of purchase and we will match it on the spot. Or show us the lower price within 14 days of your Office Depot purchase and we will pay you the difference. Our price is the final price you pay after any discounts, coupons, instant savings and mail-in savings are applied. We will match the other store's point-of-sale price after deducting their instant rebates and coupons. We will not match the other store's mail-in rebates nor will we deduct the value of any gift with purchase.
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What player do you run for your blue rays? Because the movies that I play in my xoom seem to lag

drsteven2 said:
What player do you run for your blue rays? Because the movies that I play in my xoom seem to lag
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MOBO Player, no lag at all. Used ANYDVDHD and DVDCATALYSTS 4 (Beta for Blu-Ray). Works Great

I have both devices and I am still trying to decide which one I like more. The Xoom is built better, no question. The TF has build quality issues, no question. The TF has IPS screen technology, a much better screen than the Xoom but you will deal with light leakage around the edges. The TF offers the keyboard dock which is probably my favorite feature. When I go anywhere with it, I can simply close it and set it down to protect the screen or case, then undock it with a simple slide button. I hate setting my Xoom down, it seems to leave it vulnerable to scratches or damage.
So my best advise is that no matter what you buy today, there will be a better device tomorrow. By Q4 2011, we should have a Tegra3 processor and Android 4 ICS. Then I will pony up for a "best device" and I'll be happy, for a week or so...
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Just for grins, I took a couple of pictures of the Xoom and TF side-by-side. Screen brightness set to 100% on all devices. TF on the left, Xoom on the right. Looking straight-on at the devices, there is a such a small difference. But at any side-to-side angle, the TF is definately better.
First image TF left, Xoom right straight-on
Second image TF left, Xoom right, 45 degree angle
Third image is TF left, Xoom center, VS GTab right straight-on

Thread hijiack below:
^^ Can you link me to that wallpaper?

Kippui said:
Thread hijiack below:
^^ Can you link me to that wallpaper?
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Search Amime Girl on Google Images. Zedge also has it, that's what I used for my phone...

I got my Xoom wednesday at Staples for $399 with a $100 off coupon. I was thinking about the samsung Galaxy tab, but there is only one connection unless you buy a seperate docking station.

kosenn said:
I got my Xoom wednesday at Staples for $399 with a $100 off coupon. I was thinking about the samsung Galaxy tab, but there is only one connection unless you buy a seperate docking station.
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I also got my xoom on Wednesday and I must say I love it! It is a bit heavy at times although I'm sure I will get used to it. But in comparison I feel like tf has great screen but lacks in build quality imo
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When the transformer first came out I had some buyers remorse but I gotta say as time goes on i am happy with my xoom. I love the build quality and having updates first is awesome. Also the tf is really bulky.
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Thanks
ghodzilla5150 said:
MOBO Player, no lag at all. Used ANYDVDHD and DVDCATALYSTS 4 (Beta for Blu-Ray). Works Great
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JoTeC said:
I have both devices and I am still trying to decide which one I like more. The Xoom is built better, no question. The TF has build quality issues, no question. The TF has IPS screen technology, a much better screen than the Xoom but you will deal with light leakage around the edges. The TF offers the keyboard dock which is probably my favorite feature. When I go anywhere with it, I can simply close it and set it down to protect the screen or case, then undock it with a simple slide button. I hate setting my Xoom down, it seems to leave it vulnerable to scratches or damage.
So my best advise is that no matter what you buy today, there will be a better device tomorrow. By Q4 2011, we should have a Tegra3 processor and Android 4 ICS. Then I will pony up for a "best device" and I'll be happy, for a week or so...
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Just for grins, I took a couple of pictures of the Xoom and TF side-by-side. Screen brightness set to 100% on all devices. TF on the left, Xoom on the right. Looking straight-on at the devices, there is a such a small difference. But at any side-to-side angle, the TF is definately better.
First image TF left, Xoom right straight-on
Second image TF left, Xoom right, 45 degree angle
Third image is TF left, Xoom center, VS GTab right straight-on
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Q: How often do you need to view it from the side? Won't the Xoom offer more privacy from "prying eyes?"

Chinese Tablets?

Sorry if this is wrong forum, but I am looking at buying a tablet, and I was thinking about getting one of these cheapo chinese tablets.
The specs are higher than the specs for tablets made by samsung or motorola and for less than half the price so I was wondering what I should be looking for when deciding between one china tab and another one. Any tablets someone recommends running ICS?
Thanx!

You get what you pay for man...build quality and dev will be low
If you want to go cheap, you can just buy a used Nook Color for around $100.
You can also easily score a Dell Streak 7 or a Acer A100 for less than or around $200 on eBay.
There were refurb HTC Flyers posted a few weeks ago for 189$ shipped after coupon code...
Just shop around

I just did a post about a tablet I got on Amazon. It has to be Chinese made for the price, but I love it. Works great for me and seems to be a LOT like my friends Kindle fire. Here's the link to the thread with specs.

If you can, you should wait for the google tablet by Asus coming out in a few month. The price is not bad at all and I'm sure there's going to be a ton of Dev support.
Like dude said, with Chinese tablet you get what you pay for. Not worth it in the long run.
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I want a tablet
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If you want performance, specs, and dev support on the cheap, you're going to want to pick up a HP Touchpad off CL or eBay. If you shop around you can get a 16 gb for around $150 and a 32 GB for about 2 bills.
10" screen, dual core, awesome speakers, dual boots Android ICS and WebOS, practically unbrickable. Made by a credible company who sporadically decided to stop making tablets and sell all of their stock for pennies on the dollar. That's going to be your best quality, cheap tablet.
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getbuzzin said:
If you can, you should wait for the google tablet by Asus coming out in a few month. The price is not bad at all and I'm sure there's going to be a ton of Dev support.
Like dude said, with Chinese tablet you get what you pay for. Not worth it in the long run.
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I disagree. I was looking for a lower priced tablet, preferably running ics and have good support. I found www.eforchina.com and browsed thru their stuff. I found the Ainol novo 7 Elf. A 7" tabled running ics, with a cortex a8 allwinner cpu 1,2 ghz. 1gb of ddr3 ram, hdmi and usb ports. All that for 125 euro's. I figured i may be disappointed, but we'll see. When i got it, i couldnt be more pleased with it. Its fast, there is plenty of support, its got everything except a big pricetag. I know have three of these in my family. All work pefectly. Hope this helps.
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Selling my iconia

I am selling my.iconia. love it but I'm moving onto a new EVO 4g LTE when it is out. I have a post on the mp, howuch could I get for it in 9.9/10 with by keyboard, acer dock, case, pen stylus, all with boxes. 16 gb micro SD card also with Swiss case for best protection. Belkin gold plated hdmi cable ?
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Have you thought of looking on eBay? After all there's likely to be far more people selling their devices on there than there will be on a forum dedicated to those who by definition, wish to keep their Iconias.

Agree that eBay would be the place to look for what they're selling for... but why not have both? I have a Razr and an a500 and both get a lot of use... and with the 4G on my phone, I use that for wifi tethering and it works great. There's times where the bulk of a tablet is not inconvenient and I carry just my phone, and there's time where the large real estate of the 10.1" screen is a plus and I use the tablet.
Bottom line, I get a lot of use out of each.

I agree. My Iconia has given me great use. But now it ha become a dust collector in its box. I rather pass it onto someone who can use it more

You may could sell it for $300 to $350 Im looking to sell mines for $250 (8gb) with case and sd card... if I may where on here could post mines for sale?

Post to the marketplace. But beware, check all before posting
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Who will be gettin the TF700 ?

Should be in stores July 16th. Amazon is offering up to $250 credit for TF101 in good condition ... tempting.
Hoping Microcenter near me will have one in stock to play with, see if it is that much better than the TF101 (2 of which) I have

rashid11 said:
Should be in stores July 16th. Amazon is offering up to $250 credit for TF101 in good condition ... tempting.
Hoping Microcenter near me will have one in stock to play with, see if it is that much better than the TF101 (2 of which) I have
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I'll be getting one for sure... Is the July 16th date official? I haven't seen any official release dates yet... What about pre-orders?
Thanks.
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I have decided that since I already have two 10" tf101s, I really want to get the Nexus 7 right now to replace my tf101 as my "on-the-go" tablet.
I read the iconia 700 review, and it seems the Tegra3 is still a bit weak for driving the 1920x1200 screen as smoothly as the 1280x800 tablets.. so I will hold off on getting a new 10" tablet until the next round of 1920x1200 (or maybe 2560x1600??) comes out with beefier GPUs. I'd gladly take one with the new MALI405 GPU and a Cortex A15 based CPU.

I want one but can't afford it
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I'd like to have one, but it will be a tough sell getting my wife to agree to it.

a.mcdear said:
I read the iconia 700 review, and it seems the Tegra3 is still a bit weak for driving the 1920x1200 screen as smoothly as the 1280x800 tablets.. so I will hold off on getting a new 10" tablet until the next round of 1920x1200 (or maybe 2560x1600??) comes out with beefier GPUs. I'd gladly take one with the new MALI405 GPU and a Cortex A15 based CPU.
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I really want one, but I have the same concerns about the GPU. There is a reason why Apple (not that I like Apple) is using dual core, instead of quad, with a huge GPU in their new tablet. I was not at all impressed with the Tegra 2 GPU, and while the the Tegra 3 is better, it's not good enough to push that high resolution. Since the Tegra 4 will both have new CPU and GPU architecture, I may just wait. I'm only buying the Tf700 for the resolution, and I'll need a good GPU to push that.

I like hi-tech stuffs and have no problem affording the TF700. Currently having 1GTablet, 2x TF101s, 1x Nook Color, 1x Galaxy Player 4. I have enough Android fun ! I am waiting to try the next Asus Windows RT device.
My favorite TF101 has satisfied all my real needs.

I'll be selling my TF101 for the Nexus 7, I want to get a good taste of google-driven goodness for once, and this one actually looks like something I'd buy, unlike the earlier Nexus devices.

rashid11 said:
Should be in stores July 16th. Amazon is offering up to $250 credit for TF101 in good condition ... tempting.
Hoping Microcenter near me will have one in stock to play with, see if it is that much better than the TF101 (2 of which) I have
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Where are you seeing that trade in value? All i see is 209 in like new, 175 for good.

Get the nexus 7. Its a great priced tablet with a lot of power. I love mine.
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MC153 said:
Get the nexus 7. Its a great priced tablet with a lot of power. I love mine.
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My Nexus 7 is on order. Originally I was gong to get the 700 and eBay my TF101, but decided to keep the TF and get a N7. Tegra 3 just doesn't impress me enough especially when combined with the high resolution of the 700's screen, to replace my TF.

just lou said:
My Nexus 7 is on order. Originally I was gong to get the 700 and eBay my TF101, but decided to keep the TF and get a N7. Tegra 3 just doesn't impress me enough especially when combined with the high resolution of the 700's screen, to replace my TF.
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Are you still waiting for it from Play? I just went to Sam's club and bought mine yesterday. I'm going to give the one I ordered from the play store to my sister (When it comes). Google really has a problem shipping devices. I was mad when I found out GameStop and Sam's Club was selling the tablet before Play Store shipped theirs.
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MC153 said:
Are you still waiting for it from Play? I just went to Sam's club and bought mine yesterday. I'm going to give the one I ordered from the play store to my sister (When it comes). Google really has a problem shipping devices. I was mad when I found out GameStop and Sam's Club was selling the tablet before Play Store shipped theirs.
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Yes, I ordered from the Play Store and I'm waiting. But I ordered it after the release, not a pre-order. It's not a big deal. I'm not in a hurry. I own 2 other tablets, and 4 PC's. The N7 is just another toy.

FYI - I was already able to order both the TF700 and the TF700 dock from a big name retailer! Won't be delivered until Wednesday though. Yes - I know that it will be officially released on Monday, but...
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Well people selling their 101, hit me up. I'm in the market for one.
ReZound

I WISH I was gonna buy the TF700... I'm lucky enough as it is to have this TF101. I've only had it for a couple months and I was honestly kind of surprised it still had such a large userbase still, as in my mind it seems pretty low powered (though I may be incorrect...)

rashid11 said:
Should be in stores July 16th. Amazon is offering up to $250 credit for TF101 in good condition ... tempting.
Hoping Microcenter near me will have one in stock to play with, see if it is that much better than the TF101 (2 of which) I have
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Do you have a link for that trade in credit?
I just searched amazon and can't even find the TF700T Infinity on it. Only the tF101, 201, and 300.
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fone_fanatic said:
Do you have a link for that trade in credit?
I just searched amazon and can't even find the TF700T Infinity on it. Only the tF101, 201, and 300.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A!13900851%2Cn%3A!513014%2Cn%3A2226766011%2Ck%3Atf101%2Cn%3A541966&bbn=2226766011&keywords=tf101&ie=UTF8&qid=1342357062&rnid=493964
The 700 isn't on their site yet.

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A!13900851%2Cn%3A!513014%2Cn%3A2226766011%2Ck%3Atf101%2Cn%3A541966&bbn=2226766011&keywords=tf101&ie=UTF8&qid=1342357062&rnid=493964
The 700 isn't on their site yet.
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I think like me, he's asking for the trade in link that offers 250 dollars for a 101 in good condition.

gottahavit said:
I think like me, he's asking for the trade in link that offers 250 dollars for a 101 in good condition.
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I don't think it exists. The current trade-in value is up to $209. I don't know where the OP got $250.