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Buying a smartphone :)

Hi all.
I hate my HTC Tattoo. I can't wait to change it.
The main problem is money, but I've found someone who will buy my Tattoo for a reasonable price, and I've found a guy who will pay me to set up a website for him, so I'm considering changing phone. I'll stick to android, and I was thinking of getting the Nexus One, because it doesn't have all the Sense or Motoblur junk so it gets the updates faster.
Do you have any ideas about where to buy it (or any other decent android smartphone) cheap. I've found a place where they sell it unlocked for 508 euros (635US$), but I'm sure you can find it cheaper. I live in Italy, so it has to be a place that sends stuff worldwide.
Also, if anyone is thinking of selling a N1 or another android phone (or knows someone who is), could you please tell me by PM or comment?
Thanks,
David

I hate my HTC Tattoo
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Why, man?
Coz HTC not releasing SW-updates?
Tattoo is a bargain at its price (~300USD), I consider.

I started hatting the tattoo too and I'm attempting to sell it now.
And yah its basically cuz I'm tired of 1.6 and there seems there is never going to be a fully working 2.x rom.

Well I think there are some Roms which are even better than official 2.1 that you can just install but surely nexus one is better choice. I love my tattoo even tho I used that phone as a spare only bad thing abt tattoo is small screen that's all but again it fits really cool than any other smart phone out there and If you just work arnd lil bit with roms and install market patched than I think no need to upgrade
Note : there are some pplz who are buying old phones I will send link when I come home and also u can buy nexus one from eBay in abt 350 to 425 USD

Yeah, no S/W updates, but also bad camera, screen, reception...
Thanks symond
EDIT: Oh, almost forgot: no 3D Graphics -.-'

I'm out of the Tattoo scene. Traded it for another phone.

yeah ive played with the tattoo, and i did NOT like it at all!

Felt good about the X10 today!

I was at a meeting today, the guy next to me had the HTC Evo 4G, looked like a sweet phone, but in the 2 hour meeting the guy had to take the battery out FIVE times because the phone froze on him. In the year I have owned my X10 I have had to do that twice that I can recall. Made me feel pretty good about my trusty x10! Just thought I'd share given all the *****ing about our phone sometimes

That's why I love my phone. Never had any problem with it. Specially now that there's a lot of custom rom out there.

well, after all seems there`s no reason for battery complain
is right where it should be, in battery case
didn`t you tease with the guy? i would!

The X10 is very stable, even with mods.
But the EVO isn't bad, too. Wish they'd sell it here, too. Want at it as my second phone xD
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!

Hey guys,
I just sold my HD2 and with the money i bought a brand new x10. I deceided to post a thank-you-all-for-the-support-post at their sub forum and they almost ate me alive. I was called crazy etc, now since i received the brand new package and that i have spent almost 3-4 days of heavy usage i can say honestly the following:
1. From the design point of view the device is awesome, fne and classy.
2. The OS is stable and the harware works just great.
3. From the camera point of view there is not much to compare, actually comparing the cameras of HTC and Sony is pretty insulting i guess.
4. The headphones from the pack are great
So anybody can feel free to diss X10, i can say that the phone is great and i do not regret selling the HD2 for this Sony masterpiece.

I feel sorry for two guys: the owner of the HTC Evo and the guy whom opened a thread asking for opinions about X10, but at the end he will get a Samsung (fa)i(l)Phone Galaxy
F*ck the negativity, f*ck SE's decision, f*ck bootloader, X10 rules!!!

X10 is even cooler than ARC
Hi,
From the design point of view (phone sleeping!) I think that the front-view of X10 is way more balanced than XPERIA ARC. Have you noticed the distance between the top of the screen and the top of the heady phone?
OK, ARC is thin on the side-view but phones do not "walk like the Egyptians"
I would expect that the follow-up on X10 would be something like the attached picture... I love the visual balance of the X10.
Bye,
Alex

roaringhere said:
Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
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Same for me, I dun have such problem after using my X10 compared to my previous HTC devices.
The user experience for X10 is simply great, SE has done a good job.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.

shaunbu said:
I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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just because U installed custom Rom or didn't update properly. Bad luck for U. But it worth to try that U backup everything ( but no the downloaded from market), hard resest. and try to repair by SEUS. Then if U have 0.24 or 0.435 build, everything shuold work fine

I'm gonna cheat on my X10 with the Arc......does that make me horrible? Lol
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last time i did this with symbian phones

The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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enrique71 said:
The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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Well I can't not purchase a new phone being affraid of what bugs it might bring right?
I'm certain the arc is alot better than the x10....only time will tell.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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arkedk said:
Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Its simple....because some people actually like/love there X10's (myself included) and I do not care about SE and anything they have said. The boys here at XDA have us covered.
The Arc has everything I want in a smartphone....so why wouldn't I buy it? Its fits my needs better than any HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc.
I don't care about dual core this and dual core that...I don't care about "retina display"
I don't care about my phone having the highest specs possible when released...because in reality, it will be outdated in a month anyways.
SE never promised or said they would give us 2.2+...they have given us what they said they would (except DLNA...bad bad boys for that)
Anyways, I think you understand what Im trying to say...just because your not happy with SE, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
Oh...and don't take anything I said "offensive" or "personal"....I wasn't being rude or aggresive
Just thought Id add that before I start a war lol

Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.

Wolfbreak said:
Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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+1 for that my friend. SE ui is extremely nice to look at. And the phone styles they create are excellent. I don't think they will be late with updating anymore. I'm sure they learned....and the hard way....they were blasted from all over the globe lol.
The Arc is launching with the newest android os....so that's one step in the right direction right from the start. But if the arc was launching with even froyo....I'd still be on board to buy this phone. I'm not to picky when it comes to android os versions.....well as long as its not lower than 2.1.
PS. I'm actually using you cm rom v4.1 right now....excellent work man....tho I like your old ui without the arc style better.
Best 2.2 rom I've tried tho.
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I pass from iPhone 4 to X10, no complain about it, only the lack of INSTAGRAM, I also have a Samsung Galaxy tab and Exchange email capability is the only one thing better than X10! Both devices are Telcel now unbranded!
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Moving on to the Samsung Galaxy S 2

Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted

BuddyLee said:
Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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Good for you.
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May you use it with joy. I am waiting for the quad core arm processors . They are allready used on the new psp. There is only a matter of time now.

BuddyLee said:
Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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May you rot in hell with the rest of them...
Unless I get one too...
(I'm not jealous at all! ;-) )
Just don't turn supercurio and hardcore over to the darkside!

Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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starkmapper said:
May you rot in hell with the rest of them...
Unless I get one too...
(I'm not jealous at all! ;-) )
Just don't turn supercurio and hardcore over to the darkside!
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Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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SuperCurio, DocRambone, Chainfire and a few others have already joined us. We are waiting on Hardcore to cross the bridge.

Intratech said:
SuperCurio, DocRambone, Chainfire and a few others have already joined us. We are waiting on Hardcore to cross the bridge.
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What happens to us regular folk who don't buy a new phone every year?
answer: We thrive in our galaxy and travel to the EVEN bigger one (III) after another cycle has passed!

Damn nice, its not available here yet

I ordered a SGS2, sold my SGS1 to someone at work but my SGS2 was delayed (unit shortages) and I am now stuck with an old Motorola flip phone =/

how do you guys even afford to buy a new phone every half a year

I'll wait for the next Google phone. No more touchwiz crap for me, thanks. No more begging for updates.
Also, while it's clearly a better phone, the differences are too small. ppi density was poor already, now with the bigger screen they should have gone for 540 x 960, like the Sensation.

wurstel said:
how do you guys even afford to buy a new phone every half a year
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Really clever guy would have sold SGS 1 just before SGS launch £250 .
Bought O2 PAYG and if it was as many are unlocked sold on Ebay £500 .
Buy PAYG O2 £399 net transfer cost £49 .
If i had thought about it i would have bought more than one O2 for onward sale .
SGS2 has a flashing counter on boot screen better stick with SGS 1
jje

i just got my brand new sgs a couple of weeks ago, after selling my old htc legend, so i'll stick with it for at least one year from now... after i'll master the tehnic of rooting it and all the customizing stuff, maybe then i'll consider upgrading to the new sgs2, but right now i consider it useless for me
only thing i miss from my legend is the sense ui, definetly much more user friendly than the touchwiz stuff, this is the main reason i consider rooting my sgs, i'll just wait for a stable release of sense ui for the sgs and then i'll be completly sattisfied with this awesome phone

heads off to SGS 2 thread tho. no need to make everyone jealous

sammy_user said:
Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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But he is not' yet. The guy has just got approx. +200$ (or mayB I'm wrong) via donations from us users for his magnificent job, so he is still stuck on v1, for now
As for the rest, I just joined the SGS1 club, so if I just thought for changing it, my wife would kill me with a pillow wile I sleep between two flashings ))
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It is too bad that many of the good devs are jumping ship before we get mature Gingerbread releases and mods.
In a way despite all the whinging we see on here about Samsung they are supporting the device for longer than most of the XDA devs.
The doomsayers were saying Samsung would bail on SGS 2.3 given the SGS2, when in fact it was XDA devs that bailed fast upon SGS2 release. Not that they don't have the right and I appreciate the work they did while they were here.

Lol SGS3 comes out late this year... What will people do who just upgraded to SGS2?
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I jut upgraded to 2.3.3 a coupla weeks ago, and I'm content to stay with a 90% cutting edge phone that still outperforms my old iOS Applecrap. It's kinda like having an E46 M3 (last version) versus the the new one. A few performance mods and you're just as good as the stock new one, and most non-gearheads wouldn't notice or care anyway. They'll just be impressed with the notion you own a fast Bimmer.
The money in my case would be better spent on a Honeycomb tablet as a companion to the SGS. Ones like the Asus Transformer look promising in terms of price, performance and battery life over the Asus G50VT laptop I'm typing this on.
I'm not begrudging anyone heading to the next level. Hell, Ill even admit jealousy. It's just that we bought 2 of these since the summer of last year and the shine hasn't worn of just yet, especially since moving to GB. And by the Christmas season, somebody will have raised the bar again. But I'll be still thinking that these are really just phone with a computer along for the ride. And I never upgraded my computers this fast. And stir in that the combined monthly bill is nearly $200 over the initial cost of the damn things. Yup, I'll wait.

JJEgan said:
SGS2 has a flashing counter on boot screen better stick with SGS 1
jje
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What do you mean by this?

Wrong forum for posting about the sgs2 i think...
But since its here, I dont see the point to buy a sgs2 right now unless youre a developer. In the other case it just means having to go back to stock roms and miss out on all the awesome developments that were made for the SGS.
Id rather wait to jump ships until such developments are being made on SGS2 aswell.

Your X8/Android Story

I've pretty much had the rundown of your typical mobile phone shop in the years, I heard of Android when T-Mobile went mad about it in their ad campaigns yet I was'nt drawn in. Infact the usual discomfort from new operating systems and their new surroundings put me off.
I got the X8 in May this year and ever since, I wont have anything other than Android.
Later went onto rooting the X8 a week ago. Yeh, unbelievable but I didn't fully understand Android's endless abilities until searching through Google. Hello XDA.
....
Your X8 story?

I saw it in a VIP's website, it was cheap, next day i bought it for 1euro
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I am bargain hunter and technical freak. There was a drawer contract (= a contract, a phone completely for free, all fixed fees are covered by refound (cashback) from the dealer, yes, it really works, done it a few times already).
And the x8 was the most decent smartphone, with the mobile operating system, which I like most.

I had SE K700i for 5 years before the X8,which is my third phone and first smartphone.The k700 was accidentally destroyed,so I needed a new phone.Not too much to tell about after that,I've just got the sense for buying good things.

A friend of mine suggested it to me. Have it for over a week, like it so far. Rooted/installed custom rom the first day lol. Was looking for an entry-level android-based smartphone, so far X8 has to offer more than i've ever needed from a phone.

i didn't like the the minis in the x range and the x8 was in my price range at the time, once i get it the 2.1 update was out updated right away, after that started looking up on the googles and found XDA then from there rooting and custom ROMs came into play ^_^ now i pretty much hate my x8 and wish i had saved and got a better phone, but gingerDX is giving me epic 4 days of battery life i kinda of like it a bit more then i did minus the terrible camera and single touch screen.

I once owned a SE K770i, then when I saw one of my friend was using this x8 I was thinking of buying it. But they told me it was a low specs phone, and I should get a better ones like x10 etc. When I got my allowance from my uncle, it was just 800 ringgit Malaysia and x8 cost about 750. And I decided to get one. So when I bought it I wasn't happy bout it. Then when a friend of mine introduced me xda. I got happy. And now, I am satisfied with my x8. although I'm having fake dual touch and no flash. But still loving it.
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I just wanted a phone, so, i saw the xperia x8, it was quite good, and it wasnt very expensive so, next day i bought it, and i rooted one week later, haha, so later i just instal custom roms and unlock bootloader hehe, so, i think is a awesome smartphone and i really like it

Bricked my previous phone, went scouting for a new one.. my budget was only 600 so i got the X8 not expecting much.. but after i discovered rooting and custom roms.. spent 2 weeks just rebooting into new roms and testing them.. now i'm using GingerDX v009..
P.S. Cypress digitizer was a pleasant surprise =D

I bought my X8 because interested with custom ROM. (2 days after buy rooted, 3 days - Xrecovery, 4 days-ROM hehe, yesterday or few days ago i unlock bootloader hehe..)

Farewell Xperia X8`

Hey guys! Merry Christmas!
Its been a full year since me and my partner here met you guys! Xperia X8 is my first android phone, At first i was contented with everything, then i wanted more. I became greedy, I sought knowledge that was never meant to be. I was defying the will of Sony Ericsson. I rooted my X8, installed my first recovery then flashed a new rom. It felt like heaven, having a better android version and theming it all i want. But not all stories go on great. I experienced bricking my phone, i panicked. I didnt know what to do, my warranty was void, then i thought "Maybe XDA Devs can help me". And it was true, i posted in the forums and got a fast reply. I was astonished by how the members here are helping each other. I got my phone working again. I am at loss for the things happening in this forum. Almost every week there come a new rom or update. I was happy, for every addition to the X8 roms here. But lately i dont feel like its the same anymore. I feel like that X8 has reached its peak, maybe its time for me to move on.
So i was thinking which phone would you prefer buying after you Xperienced android with Xperia X8.
Ive got to options. Xperia Neo V or Xperia Mini Pro
which would you prefer.
Please feel free to give your opinion.
I am very thankful for the people here, devs or not. Thank you all farewell. I will never forget this lively forum!
More power to the devs here! Specially Doxianh, Master Shpit, Froggy Furnetal and more. Rock on \m/

feb289 said:
Hey guys! Merry Christmas!
Its been a full year since me and my partner here met you guys! Xperia X8 is my first android phone, At first i was contented with everything, then i wanted more. I became greedy, I sought knowledge that was never meant to be. I was defying the will of Sony Ericsson. I rooted my X8, installed my first recovery then flashed a new rom. It felt like heaven, having a better android version and theming it all i want. But not all stories go on great. I experienced bricking my phone, i panicked. I didnt know what to do, my warranty was void, then i thought "Maybe XDA Devs can help me". And it was true, i posted in the forums and got a fast reply. I was astonished by how the members here are helping each other. I got my phone working again. I am at loss for the things happening in this forum. Almost every week there come a new rom or update. I was happy, for every addition to the X8 roms here. But lately i dont feel like its the same anymore. I feel like that X8 has reached its peak, maybe its time for me to move on.
So i was thinking which phone would you prefer buying after you Xperienced android with Xperia X8.
Ive got to options. Xperia Neo V or Xperia Mini Pro
which would you prefer.
Please feel free to give your opinion.
I am very thankful for the people here, devs or not. Thank you all farewell. I will never forget this lively forum!
More power to the devs here! Specially Doxianh, Master Shpit, Froggy Furnetal and more. Rock on \m/
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yes its been an amazing journey,
i got myself neo v already,but still my x8 takes all my attention errrrtime hehe...;D

I bought mine just ~6months ago. got damn I made a bad decition but I keep reminding myself its my first android ever. Since my contract is made for 2years I'm stuck on this phone. I was thinking of getting a transformer rather than a new phone

Well,i have the same choices in mind,Neo V or Mini Pro???Neo V has a bigger screen and front camera,and Mini pro the keyboard,its the only difference???

I will go for Neo V, much better than xperia mini pro in my opinion

Go for a Samsung guys! Why stick with Sony Ericsson?

Chris95X8 said:
Go for a Samsung guys! Why stick with Sony Ericsson?
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yeah thats true, i would go for Samsung Galaxy Nexus or Samsung Galaxy SII.
But the review indicate that SII is better, however I will go for Galaxy Nexus as it is far more likely to get more android updates when compared to Galaxy SII. Google is good in giving updates for nexus phones while you can see that Samsung don't even give much updates, even for some of the good phones.

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yeah thats true, i would go for Samsung Galaxy Nexus or Samsung Galaxy SII.
But the review indicate that SII is better, however I will go for Galaxy Nexus as it is far more likely to get more android updates when compared to Galaxy SII. Google is good in giving updates for nexus phones while you can see that Samsung don't even give much updates, even for some of the good phones.
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I'm waiting for my GN too but here's what I've read as I've been following the GN forums for some time now. There are two GN builds, the yakju, which is the Google build and it is an original Nexus, and the yakjuwv build, which is Samsung's build and still hasn't got the 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 update!
HOW DARE THEY BREAK THE NEXUS LEGACY???!!!

I want a Galaxy Nexus!

im waiting for my contract to finish then i will see what phone my carrier will offer me, i hope it is a htc or some good phone

My contract ends next summer.
Then, I´ll look for a better provider (my current one still offers the X8 and doesn´t even offer the S2/Galaxy Nexus/HTC Sensation and all the other high-end devices.
I also think that my next phone will probably be a quad-core phone, I´ve read somewhere that HTC will maybe make one next year.

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I'm waiting for my GN too but here's what I've read as I've been following the GN forums for some time now. There are two GN builds, the yakju, which is the Google build and it is an original Nexus, and the yakjuwv build, which is Samsung's build and still hasn't got the 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 update!
HOW DARE THEY BREAK THE NEXUS LEGACY???!!!
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ya i read that too. I dont know why they did that. Thats a big shame man

I hate the font on Samsung phones.
The one that's kindof italic
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Guys, if you are on a contract you can still change your phone.. You just have to use the same sim card. Most people don't change their number/operator for years so it's no big deal.. If you buy a new phone again from your operator you won't have 2 contracts, they will update your current one. It works like this in my country at least..
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I will vote for NEO V, its better than Mini Pro.
If you think that a cell phone is only a machine for you which must perform good then can go for Samsung/ Moto/LG any thing with better specs. For me a cell is much more than a machine. So I will stick to SE in-spite of their disadvantages.
Look and style also matters.

I ptefer arc S LOL...
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I would recommend you samsung galaxy Y
Believe me it is cheap and awsome
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harshitgroup said:
I would recommend you samsung galaxy Y
Believe me it is cheap and awsome
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Its good for normal everyday use....but for modifying or hardcore gamer,its bad...
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Me to wanna says good bye to my X8... Serving me for 9 months... Sold it yesterday and buying myself Nexus S

dipusen said:
I will vote for NEO V, its better than Mini Pro.
If you think that a cell phone is only a machine for you which must perform good then can go for Samsung/ Moto/LG any thing with better specs. For me a cell is much more than a machine. So I will stick to SE in-spite of their disadvantages.
Look and style also matters.
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+1 True, but i bought Xperia Mini Pro, There was a border in neo v which ruined its design, but it has the same processor of 1ghz right? But im loving my XMP Its awesome in spite of its small screen.
Cheers Everyone