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FINALLY a fast phone (HTC Magic 32B)

Hey there,
I went through a lot of trouble to get my HTC Magic (32B) working really well,
just wanna share this for people who have issues with the phone's performance as well.
I've tried many things, including a swap partition (on a fast SD-Card) as well as compcache.
Turns out, disabling both did the trick. It FINALLY went from unusable to fast and enjoyable!
My current rom:
Cyanogenmod 6.1.0 RC1
Settings->Cyanogenmod-->Performance:
Compcache DISABLED
JIT Enabled (I noticed an increase in CPU Power with the linpack benchmark,
but it still seems underpowered at 3.3 mflops)
Dithering Disabled
Keep Home App in Cache Enabled
Keep MMS-App in Cache Enabled
VM Heap 16m
Also I am using SetCPU to overclock to 576mhz at the moment(feels like the battery is draining faster).
Another thing I did was to reduce number of Homescreens in ADWLauncher down to 3, since thats 'nuff for me.
Hope this helps someone out there, as I was about to shatter my phone into a million pieces :O
On a sidenote: How many mflops do you get with your Magic?

I have the same findings There was a point when swap, overclock, apps2SD, and compcache all would make a major speed-up on your phone, but the CM6.1RC and the nightlies that shortly preceded it have given me the best performance in my magic's history with all of it turned off.
My phone is configured very similar to yours. I went up to vm24 to smooth out how heavier applications run. I left JIT on despite the theoretical drawbacks because I notice no performance hit and it makes a difference on fractal rendering apps (I'm indifferent to benchmarks).
The CM forums seem to be in a bit of turmoil atm because people are slowing down their phones by applying mods that genuinely sped it up in the past.
But for the first time I can be widget-heavy, always go straight back to home, use window animations, never have choppy music (even when using navigation), use alternate keyboards with no performance hit, and even run a good few live wallpapers. All with unprecedented battery life? Not sure what CM did but he/they sure did it right.
One thing - overclocking your CPU will better your benchtest results but I think you'll surprise yourself by leaving it stock, and even (gasp!) underclocking it. CPU clockrate is one of many possible bottlenecks and considering the 1.5 and 1.6 official roms were capped at 384 (or 352 I can't remember), I doubt it is the culprit of possible slowdowns. I run at 384 almost all of the time and have noticed no side effect except for extreme battery life and added stability (615 gives me reboots). The only differences I've seen overclocking make are in fractal rendering apps and benchtests but Pandas vs. Ninjas and Raging Thunder rock at 384.

glad to see I'm not alone with this
I can still see the phone running out of ram when alot is going on, but its ok.
I'll try your suggestion and underclock the phone.
Another small tweak I just found:
under mobile network settings there is an option "only use 2G", which is checked by default. turning this off improved my connection speed (obviously).
but again this comes at the cost of battery-life.

[Benchmark] Mobile Web Browser Comparison for Android

Hi Guys,
Like most of you I own a Iconia500 and I've tested a lot of ROM available on this forum. But hard to decide wich one to go with. the processing power is not all and the fluidity of the interface and the browsing are a lot more important to me.
So I've decided to test 6 Roms available on the forum with this:
Test protocol:
Fresh install
setcpu installed and locked to 1000Mhz
reboot and launch of the test
Here are the results:
Score 974 - ROM: Minimalist 3.1
Score 961 - ROM: Taboonay 1.0.6
Score 961 - ROM: Virtuous Thrive 1.0.1
Score 960 - ROM: HoneyVillain 1.04
Score 954 - ROM: Acer Stock Rom
Score 948 - ROM: Virtuous Picasso 1.1.0
Score 945 - ROM: Lightspeed 1.0
Score 940 - ROM: Virtuous Galaxy 1.0.5
Score 848 - ROM: Virtuous Xoom 1.1.2
I hope if helps,
Peace

and stock score ?
I got 954

sanaell said:
and stock score ?
I got 954
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Thanks, table updated.

Interesting tool, thanks for sharing. I get what you are after by comparing all ROMs at 1.0GHz, but don't forget that the more processing power you have (i.e. overclocking), the better your fluidity and browsing experience will be on any given ROM. I just ran a quick and dirty test (didn't reboot or anything) on my customized stock ROM with a 1.5GHz OC kernel with the "On Demand" governor (I used No-frills CPU control) and scored a 1222 with all bars being thicker than when running at 1.0GHz. Without overclocking I scored a 971. Even the stock kernel frequency tables are setup to be able to be OC'ed at 1.2GHz....so don't be afraid to goose that CPU a bit to get that tegra 2 performance you paid$ for

but OC = more power = less battery...

sanaell said:
but OC = more power = less battery...
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Yes, but only when you are using it...after the web page has loaded the cpu scales frequency back down if you are setup properly. It really depends on how you use your tablet, but I don't notice much difference at all in battery life the way I use mine (web browsing with flash, email, occasional movies and games). I still have to charge it every night either way after 6-8hrs of heavy use. The screen takes far more battery than anything else...live wallpaper would likely take more battery per charge cycle than an on demand [email protected] depending on how you use your tablet. IMHO, OC'ing to 1.2GHz is a no-brainer unless you are one of those guys on the road that needs to get every minute of life out of it. If that is what you need, then the iconia probably wasn't the best tablet to buy. After you OC, it's hard to go back as flash/web pages etc. load quite a bit faster as shown by the benchmark test.

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IMHO, OC'ing to 1.2GHz is a no-brainer
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I disagree. I didn't notice enough of a difference to warrant the loss in battery. I rarely even play any games and the games I play already run at 30 fps without OC so why the need to OC at all?

WereCatf said:
I disagree. I didn't notice enough of a difference to warrant the loss in battery. I rarely even play any games and the games I play already run at 30 fps without OC so why the need to OC at all?
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Battery drain would depend on which kernel and governor you used and how you use your tablet. Some kernel sources I have studied have their OC current set higher than is necessary. The one posted by Richard Trip/Roggin is very reasonable by default and you can even adjust uV by frequency to improve battery usage. The games you mention are likely using the tegra GPU/hardware, so the OC won't help you a bit there. I noticed the performance the most with flash loading on web pages. Give me a little more power on demand and I am a happy camper. If you really need that extra few minutes of battery, then I can understand. But, think about it...if you are browsing a lot, you can do more within a shorter period of time so it all comes out the same in the end.

I did a comparison @ same frequency to be a base for real comparison, you can overclock or use custom kernel, still, it is just a base

_motley said:
But, think about it...if you are browsing a lot, you can do more within a shorter period of time so it all comes out the same in the end.
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My reading speed isn't affected by the clockspeed of my tablet, so I'll still spend the same amount of time on a website..

WereCatf said:
My reading speed isn't affected by the clockspeed of my tablet, so I'll still spend the same amount of time on a website..
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When you are reading after it has loaded, the clock speed is the same as stock...it doesn't stay pegged at the OC speed all the time, the on-demand governor takes care of that for you

agreed but still the reaction is not instantaneous and some people just want to play with overclocking.
I found the benchmark tool interesting because it does not focus on pure force power but on user perception of the interface and after all I am a user

OP updated with a new ROM

[Q] Recommended CPU settings for Nook Color on CM9

I've flashed a NC with the CM9 nightly from a couple of days ago. The ROM works great but the device was much more responsive back when I had it on CM7 with NookTweaks installed.
I have not installed NookTweaks at the moment because what I've read leads me to believe that it's not fully compatible with CM9/ICS.
I've tried setting my CPU to 1100 MHz max frequency using the built-in Cyanogenmod performance settings, but this causes the device to freeze very regularly.
Does anyone have any suggestions to share on performance tweaking a CM9 NC? thanks!

owen magnetic said:
I've flashed a NC with the CM9 nightly from a couple of days ago. The ROM works great but the device was much more responsive back when I had it on CM7 with NookTweaks installed.
I have not installed NookTweaks at the moment because what I've read leads me to believe that it's not fully compatible with CM9/ICS.
I've tried setting my CPU to 1100 MHz max frequency using the built-in Cyanogenmod performance settings, but this causes the device to freeze very regularly.
Does anyone have any suggestions to share on performance tweaking a CM9 NC? thanks!
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Try downloading CPU Master from the market, and start out with 300 Mhz low and 1200 Mhz high, conservative mode. See how that works, then experiment with other settings. That being said, CM7.2 is much more responsive than CM9. CM9 is still in development.

Running better, thanks for the tip about CPUMaster, Brent. No crashes yet. Will report back when I've played with it some more.

owen magnetic said:
Running better, thanks for the tip about CPUMaster, Brent. No crashes yet. Will report back when I've played with it some more.
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For me choosing InteractiveX Governor (called scaling on CPU Master) improved performance quite a bit.
Trying alternative Launchers like Nova can also make basic scrolling etc on the main desktop screens quite a bit more responsive.

bobtidey said:
For me choosing InteractiveX Governor (called scaling on CPU Master) improved performance quite a bit.
Trying alternative Launchers like Nova can also make basic scrolling etc on the main desktop screens quite a bit more responsive.
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Now I've tried a bit more I find that my previous good result with InteractiveX was working well with January builds of CM9. I'm finding that Conservative actually works better for me with recent builds and smoother than either InteractiveX or OnDemand.

I've been using 300 min and 1200 max and InteractiveX for a while now on both CM7 and now CM9 and it seems to work really well. I'll have to try Conservative again I guess.

[Q] Gaming performance

I want to know everyone's ways of getting a good gaming experience from the defy:
#Best rom(s)?
#tweaks/settings (sysctl values for example)
#Best number of multitouch points/ any other touchscreen tweaks
#Good CPU & Vsel settings for battery/performance balance
#I hate MIUI
I play mostly HD games like Nova 2 & 3, MC3, shadowgun and others as I rarely have access to a console
Thanks in advance for any tips

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I want to know everyone's ways of getting a good gaming experience from the defy:
#Best rom(s)?
#tweaks/settings (sysctl values for example)
#Best number of multitouch points/ any other touchscreen tweaks
#Good CPU & Vsel settings for battery/performance balance
#I hate MIUI
I play mostly HD games like Nova 2 & 3, MC3, shadowgun and others as I rarely have access to a console
Thanks in advance for any tips
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i use cm7 because i find this to be the best optimized, fastest rom ive tried, and now that cm7.2 stable is out, you pretty much have everything working.
about the multitouch point, ive noticed that the higger points you set, the less responsive it gets - although that was back when the first multitouch tweaks came out and it wasnt even implemented in cm, so it might have gotten better. but i recommend 2 points unless you need more - this is the default setting.
as for cpu settings i use these: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] governor: smartass (in cm9: boosted). this gives better battery life than ondemand. and i overclock from bootmenu, not from app (like setvsel). note that my vsel settimgs might be a little low for you, so i recommend starting from a higher value, stress testing it, and if you dont get freezes or reboots, go lower.
hope i could help, good luck!
sent from my cm7 defy...

I have miui pikachu... Don't hate miui... I play all the games you said and the are smooth and without any lag
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

zakoo2 said:
i use cm7 because i find this to be the best optimized, fastest rom ive tried, and now that cm7.2 stable is out, you pretty much have everything working.
about the multitouch point, ive noticed that the higger points you set, the less responsive it gets - although that was back when the first multitouch tweaks came out and it wasnt even implemented in cm, so it might have gotten better. but i recommend 2 points unless you need more - this is the default setting.
as for cpu settings i use these: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] governor: smartass (in cm9: boosted). this gives better battery life than ondemand. and i overclock from bootmenu, not from app (like setvsel). note that my vsel settimgs might be a little low for you, so i recommend starting from a higher value, stress testing it, and if you dont get freezes or reboots, go lower.
hope i could help, good luck!
sent from my cm7 defy...
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I've been getting good gaming performance anyway lately, I always use bootmenu I think its the rom I'm using, cm7 cherry picks by FUZZ, you should check it out it has some extra features like toggle torch from lockscreen with home button, it also has touch bootmenu installed as default here's a link http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/gigglebread/?id=jordan

sonrics1993 said:
I have miui pikachu... Don't hate miui... I play all the games you said and the are smooth and without any lag
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
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Don't get me wrong, I respect miui and have had roms for months at a time, it does perform great! I just can't get used to the interface I find myself clumsy with it, cm7 just seems natural, much easier to use in my case, its just my style I'm not a hater

[Q] best kernel for performance for Cloudyflex 2.6

Hi,
Is the cloudy kernel the best for pure performance in terms of lag? Not looking for battery or other performance enhancements.
Is cloudy kernel 1.5 the latest ( just to make sure i have a backup kernel to re-install just on case)?
Is the tweak on hidden menu for HIGH TEMPERATURE still relevant with these kernels?
I am running with ondemand governor.
And just to make sure:
- to install a new kernel i just boot to recovery and flash the kernel without any wipes, right?
- i have xposed and some G2 tweaks running, i don't need to disable/reset or anything?
Thanks for your help! I am still learning.
Nico.

bloof said:
Hi,
Is the cloudy kernel the best for pure performance in terms of lag? Not looking for battery or other performance enhancements.
Is cloudy kernel 1.5 the latest ( just to make sure i have a backup kernel to re-install just on case)?
Is the tweak on hidden menu for HIGH TEMPERATURE still relevant with these kernels?
I am running with ondemand governor.
And just to make sure:
- to install a new kernel i just boot to recovery and flash the kernel without any wipes, right?
- i have xposed and some G2 tweaks running, i don't need to disable/reset or anything?
Thanks for your help! I am still learning.
Nico.
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Hello Nico.
I'm hoping that I can assist you with this topic.
First off, regarding the kernel you have plenty of choices. There are two, however, that I'd recommend.
1. Dorimanx Kernel. That kernel is absolutely amazing with LOTS of tweaks, thermal protection, ad-blocker, allows overclocking to 2.8Ghz and much much more. I can't list all the features because they are so many. But there's one thing in particular - it's fast. Dorimanx has created a hybrid kernel from 3.4.xxx and 3.10.y source codes. This is my go-to kernel.
2. Bruce Kernel. It's a modified stock kernel with Bruce's own tweaks. It's fast, very battery friendly but lacks customisation. It also doesn't have thermal protection or any thermal throttling.
Now to your other questions:
Yes, Cloudy 1.5 should be the latest.
I wouldn't mess with the ROM thermal protection found in hidden menu. The gain in speed is most likely negligible but you make your phone more prone to heat damage.
Ondemand governor is great for smoothness, but you'll have a ton of options if you decide to use dorimanx. I use alucard because it's the sweet spot between amazing battery performance and smoothness.
You can install a new kernel without any wipes. Kernel doesn't interfere with ROM as such and you don't have to disable anything. A Kernel is basically what makes software and hardware work together.
I hope this helps!

vPro97 said:
Hello Nico.
I'm hoping that I can assist you with this topic.
First off, regarding the kernel you have plenty of choices. There are two, however, that I'd recommend.
1. Dorimanx Kernel. That kernel is absolutely amazing with LOTS of tweaks, thermal protection, ad-blocker, allows overclocking to 2.8Ghz and much much more. I can't list all the features because they are so many. But there's one thing in particular - it's fast. Dorimanx has created a hybrid kernel from 3.4.xxx and 3.10.y source codes. This is my go-to kernel.
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Thanks a lot for your answers, these are exactly what I was looking for.
I just flashed Dorimanx, and without knowing too much on how to tweak it (more on that later), it is really smooth. I am keeping it!
vPro97 said:
I wouldn't mess with the ROM thermal protection found in hidden menu. The gain in speed is most likely negligible but you make your phone more prone to heat damage.
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OK, great to know, it is so often repeated online that I used to have it. It is now off, absolutely no noticeable difference!
vPro97 said:
You can install a new kernel without any wipes. Kernel doesn't interfere with ROM as such and you don't have to disable anything. A Kernel is basically what makes software and hardware work together.
I hope this helps!
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Thanks. Flashed perfectly, twice (I had trickster mod on and wasn't sure what it reset at boot, so uninstalled it and re-installed Dorimanx.)
Got 1040/2900 on geekbench even if that is not really what I care about. I had 950/2750 before, not that much noticeable difference in %.
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Ondemand governor is great for smoothness, but you'll have a ton of options if you decide to use dorimanx. I use alucard because it's the sweet spot between amazing battery performance and smoothness.
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OK, we're onto kernel tweaks , I have a few questions:
I discovered that I had STweaks installed, so let's use that.
1) Apart from governor alucard, what other settings should I apply? You mention thermal controls. I expect the defaults of STweaks are OK? If not, what should I do?
2) I found a GPU governor, should I do something there to have better performance?
3) my real goal is to achieve super smoothness when interacting with the phone, I don't play high CPU 3D games or anything like that. I want the phone to react instantly when I press somewhere or open something or press home or recent apps. Any advice? I modified touch boost frequency...
4) if I "reset settings to default" in STweaks, will it reset to Dorimanx' installed default as I just installed the kernel?
5) so that I don't bother anyone anymore, is there a manual about all these tweaks in Dorimanx/STweaks?
Thanks again so much!

Hey bud, I dont know if u found out the answers to these questions but I can share my information with u as I see nobody answered it
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3) I'll tell u the best settings for smoothness but also with great battery life All questions ll be answered in one answer :
Make governers Alucard
Touchboost:1.9
Powesave Switch: Performance mode
Power Efficent Worqueues : Unticked
Cpu Tweaks:ticked
Max Cpu 0,1,2,3 freq:2572800
MAx screen off freq :Max Allowed
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Alucard Hotplug
Hotplug always active
2 cores boost
4 cores max online
2 cores min cpu online
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gpu min 100
max 533
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I/O read ahead 2048
row row
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cron all on
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Logcat Logger always disabled
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And from developer settings of ur ROM, make window animation, transition animation and animation duration scale 0.5x
If u re not dependant on xposed module, then use ARTruntime(faster)
4) Yes, all settings ll be restored to original Dorimanx settings.
5) I havent seen any yet
This is all I can say, let me know about results

Darius129 said:
Hey bud, I dont know if u found out the answers to these questions but I can share my information with u as I see nobody answered it
1)
2)
3) I'll tell u the best settings for smoothness but also with great battery life All questions ll be answered in one answer :
Make governers Alucard
Touchboost:1.9
Powesave Switch: Performance mode
Power Efficent Worqueues : Unticked
Cpu Tweaks:ticked
Max Cpu 0,1,2,3 freq:2572800
MAx screen off freq :Max Allowed
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Alucard Hotplug
Hotplug always active
2 cores boost
4 cores max online
2 cores min cpu online
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gpu min 100
max 533
__________________
I/O read ahead 2048
row row
____________________
cron all on
___________________
Logcat Logger always disabled
_____________________
And from developer settings of ur ROM, make window animation, transition animation and animation duration scale 0.5x
If u re not dependant on xposed module, then use ARTruntime(faster)
4) Yes, all settings ll be restored to original Dorimanx settings.
5) I havent seen any yet
This is all I can say, let me know about results
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Hey there. Thanks a lot for your answers, despite the thread being so old.
I actually learned a lot since i posted that
I use 2x intelliactive, 2x alucard, alicard HP, max freq 2.3, 2.3, 1.9, 1.9, gpu 100-533, i/0 read 1024, dirty tatios 5%/10%
Your settings look interesting, you sure you get great battery life? With 2 cores min? I am going to try

No mate, I said that's settings for u, u said u don't care about battery, so I tried to give u the best settings I can come up with for performance, I myself use 3 cores max, all 2,3 ghz 1 core boost, Alucard on-demand Alucard. 1024. 100 320 GPU. It's pretty smooth with art. But if I wouldn't care about battery, I would do the settings I told u. Hehe

Darius129 said:
No mate, I said that's settings for u, u said u don't care about battery, so I tried to give u the best settings I can come up with for performance, I myself use 3 cores max, all 2,3 ghz 1 core boost, Alucard on-demand Alucard. 1024. 100 320 GPU. It's pretty smooth with art. But if I wouldn't care about battery, I would do the settings I told u. Hehe
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no worries!
I learned to care more about battery I realized that it is really smooth anyway. I have a lot of SOT daily (movies, etc) and realized that using performance settings just drains too quickly and is not needed.
I do put animations to x0.5 (transition animation to OFF).
What I am really struggling with is home redraws... A bit better now, but they used to be 1000x times a day.
I would run with ART but it takes a lot more memory, and with my 16 GB I don't have enough memory left when running ART.

Buddy, I am on 16 too. I had 8.5 hours sot with art and cloudy 2.1!! I use nova launcher and I am happier with it can give it a try

Darius129 said:
Buddy, I am on 16 too. I had 8.5 hours sot with art and cloudy 2.1!! I use nova launcher and I am happier with it can give it a try
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I have a few very large apps (navigon, games,...) they take 2-3 GB.
I al so have movies, remaining is only 1.3 GB.
If i want to backup ROM i need to delete obb files, etc. With ART i will have nothing left!
Tried niva but didn't like it. Will try apex again maybe, but i really like the look of G3 home.

Hmm, I see. I didnt know that internal memory and has a thing to do ART, I just made it ART and everything was ok. Launcher is a matter of taste I guess. For lg launcher, I read that there are some hidden settings to lock it in RAM, so that it doesnt redraw that often, maybe u can take a look for that. Hope to share more information for better experience with our phones
@bloof I forgot to tell, I also like how g3 theme looks, and I use a g3 theme with my nova launcher. If pm me ur gmail, can send u my screenshots