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Motorola Photon?

This isnt the forum for this but this is where most of the sprint users go (and the evo forum)
I've seen all the topics about evo3d vs the GS2 but nothing on the motorola photon.
the specs are on the internet, but I'm not exactly sure how those specs would stack up to the GS2 or the evo3d.
I work right next to the motorola building in Ft. Lauderdale and I was able to talk to some of the people working on the phone and even use one of theres for a second.
It was running gingerbread with motoblur (although this version of motoblur looked really nice, and they told me it can be turned off.
They also told me that it will have a locked bootloader
They said they were told it was going to release by july 31st.
The phone felt very solid in my hand had some weight to it kinda like an iphone.
I manage a restaurant so i kind of overheard them talking about stuff like getting stuff through fcc and all sorts of debugging that had to do with problems popping back up on them. It was just very interesting to hear because it sounded like talk from these forums.
I wish i would have got a picture because I cant seem to find anything online thats not stock picture of the device.
What does everyone think? Will it be a good upgrade from the epic?

Here's what people think bro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117250&highlight=Sammiches

Lol I love that it says highlights=sammiches
iSaint said:
Here's what people think bro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117250&highlight=Sammiches
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Ha i know right

The Photon is not an upgrade from the Epic in any conceivable way. It has a lesser quality LCD display, weaker processor, locked bootloader (enjoy the stock rom and slight variants because that's all they get) and motorola's poor customer support.

063_XOBX said:
The Photon is not an upgrade from the Epic in any conceivable way. It has a lesser quality LCD display, weaker processor, locked bootloader (enjoy the stock rom and slight variants because that's all they get) and motorola's poor customer support.
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I wouldn't be so unequivocal...
The Photon has a dual core processor, the Epic has a single core, plus it has a larger, and higher resolution display from the Epic. The guy who reviewed it from Phonescoop said the screen on the Photon is excellent, particularly compared to other motos. It also has the webtop software. As for the bootloader, Sprint will have to decide whether to let Motorola unlock it later in the year. If the bootloader does get unlocked then I personally would definitely consider it an upgrade from the Epic.
To the OP: it sounds like they are having issues with the FCC approval. That's not unusual. It's what held up the EVO 3D's release for a while too.

Had Sprint not f'd us over with the Premier program changes back in April, I'd be jumping from the Epic to the Photon on august 1st once my upgrade window opens. But no, no more yearly upgrade for one line, just 1/2 discount.

Looks like it is missing the keyboard too. Downgrade from the Epic.

No keyboard = not for me, but I saw the unboxing video online and it looked pretty solid. A friend of mine has a droid 3 on vzw, and if its ant indication of average moto ****, I like it. I do wanna see how they handle the unlocking of the bootloader.
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I've been playing with it for the past couple of days, and I gotta say it's a really solid device. The webtop app is amazing, and I've been considering this phone just for that reason. All the different boot up options intrigue me as I don't know what they do. I'm not the biggest fan of the display as it's a pentile lcd, and I'm one of those people who can see the miniscule dots every time I look at it a certain way.
Also, I'm pretty confident moto will unlock it in time. I don't think OEMs can afford to alienate the dev community any longer.
Id say it has HUGE development potential, but sadly I don't think many devs will buy it. One of the main reasons I'm holding out for the within.
Which I hope, I hope, I hope, please god, give it a bigger dev community than the epic. I just might cry if it's left in the dust again by htc's inferior hardware.
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Locked bootloader
There will be an update to unlock the bootloader, according to Motorola.

Should I upgrade to the Motorola Photon or the Samsung SII

Which one would you upgrade to and why?
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They both seem like good contenders, but personally I am going for the within(galaxy II) unless sprint decides to put a keyboard on it. The sammys cameras have always been on the top list, and watching some vids on the sgs2, the phone destroys all other benchmarks. This video shows a side by side comparison with the 3d, and the sammy seems to win in every category. Motorola has big shoes to fill...
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo...laxy-s-2-video

Photon has a photo button and kickstands and higher resolution. And we don't know the sg2 is faster, it has not been tested against the photon. There is rumored to be a Tegra 2 version on the sg2 out there and we might get that one in the us making it almost the same as the photon. Just saying
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I think you should check em both out and see which one you like more. People are acting like the sgs2 is some sort of god phone bit really all of these phones are so similarly spec'd that it really comes down to personal preference. I have the E3D and everything about it is sick. I may get an sgs2 to replace my OG EVO though as I would prefer that over the Motorola.
Tapa tapa tapa

I have had bad luck with samsung hardware
but man that photon4g is wayy to sexy

i woud go sgs2. but as said above, it REALLY depends on the processor. ofc, if it gets tegra 2, itll be the same, then its really cosmetics and stock ui... but from what ive read, the Exynos/Orion processors are MUCH faster than the competition. even at 1ghz, the exynos is supposed to be able to beat the tegra. fingers crossed.

The Photon, only because the Samsung GSII might not come in CDMA flavor (carrier blocking), from what I've read.
Otherwise, yeah the GSII.
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how active are the development communities for samsung and motorola compared to HTC?

cnstarz said:
how active are the development communities for samsung and motorola compared to HTC?
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HTC>Samsung>Motorola
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Noiro said:
HTC>Samsung>Motorola
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This is what could really keeps me from considering the Photon but on the other hand, I really want the extra resolution the 3D and Photon have.

Another thing to consider is time to market with Software updates. Although the E3D, SGS2, and Photon all launch with Android 2.3 certain manufacturers are quicker and better at releasing official updates.
I for one have not seen a Samsung firmware release go as planned in over a year. Their updates seem to take forever and when they do roll out they are still buggy (The latest Froyo update to the Sprint version of the SGS was pulled twice before a proper release was done). HTC on the other hand updates first and updates often and very rarely has issues. As far as Motorola is concerned... I can't say as the Photon is the first Moto phone we will be carrying in a long time. That being said I am looking forward to the Photon but my biggest concern is SW support both official and third party.

The Photon is also launching with 2.2.......that and a locked bootloader is reason enough to not get it.
Tegra 2 is also overrated and the Adreno 220 and Exynos easily match, and even beat it in some benchmarks.
I haven't read it confirmed, but it seems likely that it will also have a Pentile display, so despite the higher resolution, it won't look as sharp, as say the screen on the EVO3D.

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The Photon is also launching with 2.2.......that and a locked bootloader is reason enough to not get it.
Tegra 2 is also overrated and the Adreno 220 and Exynos easily match, and even beat it in some benchmarks.
I haven't read it confirmed, but it seems likely that it will also have a Pentile display, so despite the higher resolution, it won't look as sharp, as say the screen on the EVO3D.
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So it doesn't have a root yet like the 3d, ok
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The Photon is also launching with 2.2.......that and a locked bootloader is reason enough to not get it.
Tegra 2 is also overrated and the Adreno 220 and Exynos easily match, and even beat it in some benchmarks.
I haven't read it confirmed, but it seems likely that it will also have a Pentile display, so despite the higher resolution, it won't look as sharp, as say the screen on the EVO3D.
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No the Photon is definitely launching with 2.3
source: http://now.sprint.com/p4/?ECID=vanityhoton
It is unconfirmed as to if the boot loader will be locked, at least I have not had a reliable source confirm it. I'll see if I can corner the Motorola rep next time I see him though. If it's anything like the Atrix bootloader it shouldn't be much of an issue though. See:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-to-unlock-atrix-bootloader-in-future-update/
I am unfamiliar with the differences between a Pentile display and the one the Evo 3D uses. Can you elaborate on how it is inferior?

I'd get the SG2

Dan_ said:
I'd get the SG2
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Thats what im thinking
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Love my E3D but since this is for the photon or sgs2 then I would choose the sgs2.
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i'm getting the photon. i'm sick of samsung and their lousy and untimely updates. it's between the evo3d and the photon for me, and the "3d" on the new evo really means nothing to me. motorola devices have always been high quality. i won't like the locked bootloader but sammy's record did it for me i guess. the unknown of the photon trumps samsung's terrible record.

dont base your choice SOLELY on the opinions of others. yea, use them to help you out but, when it comes down to it, it's YOUR choice...not theirs. so play around with each phone (I'm assuming you're waiting on the SGSII to land in order to do this anyway so you have the patience already lol). which ever you like better should be the one you get.
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So it doesn't have a root yet like the 3d, ok
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of course the photon doesn't have root yet....IT'S NOT RELEASED give it time...it will get it especially since Moto is looking to unlock the bootloader of the Atrix (dunno if it has been done yet)...they'll probably do the same with the Photon (probably not right out of the box tho)
when I was upgrading from the Hero, I went through the same thing (had to choose between OG Evo, Shift and Epic). I wanted the bigger screen so the shift was out right away. I played with both the Evo and the Epic and yea the Epic was better specs (the 1gHz Hummingbird vs 1gHz Snapdragon, Super AMOLED vs LED) but it just felt cheap to me (IMO that seems to be with A LOT of Samsung phones...i've had quite a few over the years and so did a friend of mine and they (the phones) all seemed like that). I knew the Evo had the better development community but that didn't affect my decision.
long story short, choose what YOU feel would be the better fit for YOU. test them out (also look at the Evo 3D to see what the others are talking about when it comes to the screen)

cg 112358 said:
dont base your choice SOLELY on the opinions of others. yea, use them to help you out but, when it comes down to it, it's YOUR choice...not theirs. so play around with each phone (I'm assuming you're waiting on the SGSII to land in order to do this anyway so you have the patience already lol). which ever you like better should be the one you get.
of course the photon doesn't have root yet....IT'S NOT RELEASED give it time...it will get it especially since Moto is looking to unlock the bootloader of the Atrix (dunno if it has been done yet)...they'll probably do the same with the Photon (probably not right out of the box tho)
when I was upgrading from the Hero, I went through the same thing (had to choose between OG Evo, Shift and Epic). I wanted the bigger screen so the shift was out right away. I played with both the Evo and the Epic and yea the Epic was better specs (the 1gHz Hummingbird vs 1gHz Snapdragon, Super AMOLED vs LED) but it just felt cheap to me (IMO that seems to be with A LOT of Samsung phones...i've had quite a few over the years and so did a friend of mine and they (the phones) all seemed like that). I knew the Evo had the better development community but that didn't affect my decision.
long story short, choose what YOU feel would be the better fit for YOU. test them out (also look at the Evo 3D to see what the others are talking about when it comes to the screen)
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I don't need the 3d
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Sprint's Motorola Photon 4G available July 31 for $199 on contract

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans

Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.

CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.

I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.

mattykinsx said:
The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.

Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.

mikeyinid said:
Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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conqu1stador said:
I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.

Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.

mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.

Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.

spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.

It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.

I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha

The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.

jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx

CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner

[Q] Anybody else holding out on upgrading to the 3D

Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.

LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted

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LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?

Nope...I'm holding out because I am not impressed at all with the evo 3d. Waiting for the galaxy s II
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?
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Remember dates are crazy and that is why they change so much.
And the photon has everything I want. but mainly the wiimote attachment and HDMI mirroring. All the HD games are also really nice.
With my old Vibrant the wiimote would not connect and kinda bummed me with all the games I could play VIA my TV. So the Photon fits what I have been wanting for a long time. Also the dock and productivity apps sound pretty nice as well.

Not gonna hold off for a standard that may or may not come in some undetermined amount of time.
I'm just not upgrading because:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
B) Full NAND write has not been achieved. I love my AOSP.
C) Samsung's next generation looks promising and the Photon wouldn't be bad if they unlock them bootloaders.

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A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.
I personally am holding out until it gets rooted with some good support behind it. 4G sucks in my area so it doesnt matter regardless.
Heres to hoping good things come to the EVO4G with the kernel release from HTC. I'm personally holding out to see if that support picks up on the 4G before leaving for the 3D. MikG is holding me out and enjoying the ride.

AdriVelazquez said:
Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.
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I was excited about it when i heard about the phone but once i played with it, i realized that it's not that big of a difference from the OG EVO . Everything it can do my OG can do it better with the right ROM and Tweaks outside the 3D of course so i'm sticking with me EVO until something wayyyyyy better comes along .

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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.l
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That hardware would have to step up to be a piece of crap, that's how bad it is.

To those saying the hardware isn't a great improvement would be wrong..its a great improvement ..even after stretching my og EVO to its limits it cannot compare to the 3d out of the box..you may say " what can the 3d do that the og cant" um I'm.not really sure but it just does said things better and smoother and faster..its very noticible with games etc... Those who are holding out due to root...well I understand that..when it is rooted it will be an incredible beast..as far as the photon ..I would rather take my og back..I.dislike MOTOblur ..

I am running my og evo4g with synergy Rom and it is awesome. They incorporated sense 3 into it and I love it. From what I can tell it has made my software basically the same as the 3d. I can't wait to see what the synergy team does with the EVO3d hardware. I'm not due for upgrade til 2012 oct anyway so I'm happy with my synergized EVO til then
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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly

Yeah I have both phones and my OG EVO is just fine with synergy. I don't really like the EVO 3d design. Screen seems smaller due to stretching height and taking away width. I also don't like the back cover at all. Seems badly designed. The software seems to be running st a low frame rate also. Doesn't seem like a big upgrade to me. I know Im going to be labeled a troll and tons of retarded pics will be coming but oh well. The 3d seems like a gimmick and its fun for all of an hour. High scores mean nothing to me so please save the quadrant argument. Coming from a older feature phone or even a hero would be an upgrade but from the EVO to 3d, it doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Before I get chewed, this is my opinion. Maybe it will change in the next couple weeks but right now its where I stand. Oh and I didn't have to start a new thread to say this. That's not a shot at the OP either. I just see all the hate on the 3s aide of this site and thought I would add a disclaimer to my statements.
I'll save my upgrade for something different. Sense is getting a little boring.

On day to.day tasks you won't see much of a difference..I mean how much faster can it get..the one thing I will say though is that I feel my 4G is stretched to its limits and that the hardware is getting old..the soc is more than twice as powerful and the.same.can be said of the gpu..I think that eventually the differences between the phones will become apparent . That being said the 3d does have some bugs to work out..one in particular that drives me crazy is when I'm typing...if.u.scroll or touch the screen in anyway it brings up like the edit cut and paste icon..it always happens ..also I can't seem the hit the space key without pressing the period button..those are minor gripes that I'm sure will be worked out

I'm sure the EVO3D will be a total beast once full root is accomplished, I don't doubt that at all, but as is, my fully rooted, custom rom, kernel, and tweaked EVO4G is as fast if not faster in some respects to the stock EVO3D.
Obviously the EVO3D is superior when it comes to gaming and watching flash content, but aside from that, my launcher transitions faster and much smoother than the EVO3D, my browser appears just as fast in general use, apps load just as fast, etc.
The EVO3D is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but until full root is accomplished it is being held back from realizing its true potential.
I read that temp-root has been accomplished though and some have even been able to overclock the processor to 1.8 GHz, which is pretty insane. I'm sure the phone is buttery smooth at those speeds.

firmbiz94 said:
The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly
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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.

ninoriff said:
Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.
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so, what is it like going from an 8.0 camera to a 5.0? jw

I'm using kingsrom longed London rls2 odex and it is the fastes ROM I have ever used.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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stinkyprince said:
This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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Use a 3D, and you'll see the difference, it's night and day.
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I have really been looking at new phones...

And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!

Beautiful
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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.

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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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That's a good point. A friend of mine just got the 3D. He came from a Windows mobile phone. He has been going on and on about it but the stuff that he likes are things that I have had on my rooted EVO for a while. I think his excitement is Android based and not based on that particular phone. I have compared mine and just can find enough reason to switch before I see what the development looks like. My rooted EVO is only a small step behind the stock 3D, IMO.

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And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
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You got it! +1 on this one!

No real replacement for Evo until next year. It's hard to perfect perfection.
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upgrading to a newer android phone from the evo is just like upgrading from an iphone 3g to a 3gs, only slight differences.

Bad news... http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oodbye-to-the-htc-evo-4g-and-samsung-epic-4g/
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doesn't mean anything. just that sprint doesn't want it on its shelves anymore in order to sell their new devices.

I'm assuming HTC wants people to upgrade to either the 3D or the Kingdom when it releases as the Hero 4G under Sprint.
Rumor has it that the Kingdom will be a tad cheaper than the 3D. It's basically an Evo with a bigger screen and a worse camera but better hardware specs. It seems like it will be Sprint's new flagship model for some time and will probably be used to tempt all the people that are still happy with their Evo 4Gs out of hiding.

If the Evo 4+ makes it to sprint, that will be the one I am interested in...but only if I can have what I have now. I could only consider it a downgrade to go to a phone that can not do what my current phone does...really not interested if its faster...if it can't do all I have now damn the Evo is nice. I really can't think of another phone that after rooting can do. ALL the things I'm allowed to do due to the amazing development teams

I love my evo 4g
will only upgrade to a phone that's actually superior like 2.0ghz quadcore processer with 16 gig internal, 8 ram with like 1080 resolution screen 8 megapixel camera. 3 megapixel front camera and better gaming than nvidas kal-el chip
But as there aren't going to be any like that for a while I'll stick with what I've got
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I have an evo 4g and its a beast! Ill wait for when LTE phones come out
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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I agree. This whole HTC locking boot loaders is so people will go out and buy their next best device. Crap I tell ya.... Worst part is, when you do buy Another device, they'll just lock it later down the road... IDK.. that sounds kinda crazy eh? LOL
Anyways the EVO is an awesome device and glad I got it.
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HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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I don't go for the conspiracy theory that THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LIKE YOUR PHONE. This is nonsense. The more you like it the more HTC phones you will buy, and the more you will recommend it to friends. The locking seems to be due to carrier pressure, because the carrier pays for the tech support calls when people screw them up when rooting, overclocking, etc. You call HTC with a screwed up phone and they will tell you to call Sprint ;-)
Just yesterday, the Evo3D root came out, and the instructions led many hundreds of people to have to call tech support to get the phone connected to the network again! This is no joke, I was one of those who called. One of the rooters asked the Sprint rep, and he said he had personally gotten close to 70 calls just yesterday with the same "Error 16" issue due to the new root procedure!
Beyond, that, I agree, EVO 4G rules. I got a 3D, and I do not like it as much as the OG.

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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I have never owned a g2x. I merely made this post because I feel it is the best well rounded phone for all my needs. HDMI mirroring really makes this shine. The wiimote app only gets used occasionally but still very sweet and it works just like I have a damn old school nes haha. It just fits me and HTC locking bootloaders lol. They will eventually get unlocked. Not a big deal. Then we will all forget about the 3 weeks spent with a horribly locked 3d/sensation lmao.