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android tablet not useful

I've had the transformer for 3 months.
It does some things great but it is neither a tool or a laptop replacement. The tablet effect may be real at the moment but it will pass.
I love this tablet for movies and email and calendar on the road. And for battery life.
That's where my love ends
It is slow. The browser is deadly slow and buggy as ****. How does a Google product have such a **** browser?
It is not useful as a tool.
Letters, documents spreadsheets... can be done but not effectively.
It is a fun toy and nice to have on the road. But I still need me macbook for anything work related. So now I just have one more thing in my travel bag. Not the direction I want to go.
And worthy of note, of all my computers and devices, I like my full desktop with dual monitors and 6core Intel CPU best. The desktop isn't dead yet either.
Ty.

I use it as a terminal into my computer. So when I go to a meeting or travel I can access my computer with remote desktop.

Do you have the docking? And did you try other browsers?
Because with docking and with opera mobile i do not reckognize any of your points.

I never buy my TF in order to replace my Ubuntu laptop or my desktop computer.
I have it for the battery life, the GPS, the portability, to do emails, downloads, games and surfing lazy in my salon listening TV at same time, copying my camera movies or pictures in holidays, etc ...
I'm doing that before with a net book, but now I have also a Tablet and this is so Geek
The TF is somewhere between my HTC Desire and my Laptop !
I like also to see Honeycomb and the market growing with butty full applications.
This is my new precious and I enjoy it so much
Regards.
PS: Try Dolphin Browser HD, is not to bad and faster.

I wouldn't say it's not useful...just not exactly a laptop replacement.
I do use it for documents, emails, games, and such...the same thing I use my laptop for...the only difference is that the TF allows me to do all that at the coffee shop with my feet up on the hearth, eating a scone...
It is what it is...

I would say that you picked the Transformer up for all the wrong reasons. You have a Macbook yet you're looking for something portable for work. That doesnt' really make sense to me. You're probably not the best use case for this device.
This thing is for people who like the price point and portability of a netbook, but enjoy the tablet form factor for general or on-the-go use. This doesn't seem to be you and I wouldn't call Android tablets "not useful" when you're basically looking for a full laptop replacement - which this is not.
Edit: Re-read, you have a Macbook, didn't specifically say an Air, but maybe one would be better suited for your needs? It's light, has a full OS and is about as portable as laptops can be.

Having the TF now means that I can leave my laptop in the office for the week & only carry my TF to & from home each evening for email, browsing & other work related things.
On the train I watch a TV show or listen to music on the TF & when home I use kindle to read books in bed.
It isn't a laptop or even a netbook, as someone else said, it is what it is, you just have to find out how to fit it into your life.

Honestly, I love when people come in to a device specific forum and complain about how they don't use/need it. Personally, I found that using wireless tether and tablet keeps it with me and in use everywhere i go.

Huh, for me I've essentially replaced my Work windows laptop with my Transformer.
I use a Combo of the stock browser and Dolphin for Pad for web browsing (stock set to tablet, Dolphin set to desktop). I randomly will have a site act funky, but never been a show stopper.
I picked up a bluetooth keyboard that works great for longer emails and document creation via Polaris Office. None of the Android Office suites are MS Office replacements yet, but Polaris suites my needs.
I have VPN Connections working to connect to my corp network when needed.
2X Client is an amazing RDP client for connecting to boxes on my home network or on the corp network when VPN'd in.
The only thing I have an issue with is printing support for Emails/websites/documents when needed. I can print pictures to my HP via their iPrint app. I haven't researched printing solutions that much yet (open to any good suggestions).
Since I got my Transformer in June, the only time I've gotten my laptop out at home was to run a specific app that is Windows only for my golf league and to print those reports. I inquired with the developers about an Android port, but they said it wasn't on their timeline.

I disagree,
Its not useful to you maybe, but to me its exactly what I bought it to be.
I have read more books on my TF in the past 3 months than I have read in the 2 years before that.
I can browse my PC network from any room in the house, view any pictures, listen to any music and watch every video format I have, wherever, whenever.
I can browse the web conveniently, quickly and almost perfectly on my WiFi connection or using 3G from my Desire.
I can waste a few minutes playing a game, or reading a comic.
I can show off my artwork to customers or friends via the gallery.
I can sketch an idea or write a note, even draw some artwork.
I can see whats on TV next or even watch that thing I missed the night before on catchup.
It's not a PC or laptop replacement, its not meant to be, its the thing you use when you don't have time to boot up your PC, or when you don't want to carry that laptop, or know that you will need more than 3 hours of battery life.
its Amazing....

My TF with the dock now fits neatly between my Evo and my Mac Mini in terms of functionality. My portable computing needs are not that taxing, so the Macbook Pro I had was overkill. Sold it last month and now my TF is my portable. I miss some things about the MBP, namely OS X, but I'm getting used to it.

My TF fits perfect for what i need. Reading news feeds, books, PDF's/documents, emails, taking notes with my stylus, and a quick check of the internet with the browser.
Any heavy usage i rely on my chromebook or work laptop and any heavy reading done with my nook color since it's lighter.

Hungry troll is hungry....
I sure wouldnt lug my desktop out to the back yard for some hammock surfing, nor would I use a laptop for extended reading. I see tablets an extension of my current setup, not as a replacement for anything.
If you don't see a use for tablets, why get one? Personally, aside from nitpicking, I couldn't be more happy about my Transformer. I simply love the little thing.

It's definitely not as effective for some pretty important work related things (ie. I had a lot of trouble making fine details on my presentation slides, but I just decided to do the tiny things on my laptop instead). Of course, I don't expect it to be a desktop/laptop replacement. It's a netbook (and tablet of course), and it's meant to be ultra portable. I love it.

For all of my the things I used to used my netbook for (email, web surfing, basic photo editing, games, movies, books, etc.) the Transformer is more than enough. Anything beyond that I use my desktop. The only thing that I wish would happen is a decent screenwriting application (Celtx hopefully). Opera mobile has no lag for me though the stock browser is pretty slow as you say. I don't think the TF was ever pitched as a netbook replacement. The dock inclusion is mainly aimed for those who want a tablet form factor (touchscreen, thin, high resolution screen) with the occasional benefit of faster input through a keyboard (it also serves as an extended battery and stand).
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the TF is my new laptop. I have my desktop forgaming etc..
The TF does everything else.. this was one of the best buys i have ever made.

what an utterly pointless thread ..... wheres this Iron Fist ????

IMHO, the thing that will make or break the 'usefulness' of a tablet is the software. And of course, everyone's needs will be different.
If you've got to do serious work on it, yeah, you're gonna be better with a full-on laptop. Period.
Myself, I don't need the horsepower of a full laptop, but I do find that the browser on the tablet is pretty slow. Some apps could use a lot of improvement (for instance, I use Polaris Office to interface with Google Docs, but I hate the little return carriage icon it puts after every line in the editor...)
I'm going to hang on to mine because it is useful to me, and as software improves, it will get even more useful.

Its good for books and magazines.
Listening to audio any format
watching movies in SD format only, any higher and experience lag and desync audio
games are enjoyable
internet browsing is ok would be alot better if websites considered ppl touching a screen rather then using a mouse.
some apps beat the website but not many

OP, cry me a river. You don't have anyone to blame other than yourself about the fact that you purchased a device you didn't have the need for.
I've got a gaming desktop with dual 24 inch IPS screens setup; a 15 inch windows/ubuntu Asus laptop; an old iBook acting as a home server; a Galaxy S 4 inch Android smartphone; and an iPod Touch 4th generation (solely for work related testing purposes).
In addition, I was pretty skeptical about the tablets as a device class as a whole before.
Know what? The TF did actually fit me so damn well that I can't imagine not having it now. I had never imagined I'd have those situations and use cases before I actually started using it.

Asus Transformer: second thoughts

This may be a slightly different post, since most of the users are big fans or / and happy users of Asus Transformer, but hear me out. For haters of long post – a brief summary of my post: the honeymoon’s with my tablet over, considering what to do now…
About 3 months ago I’ve sold my trusty Asus EEE PC 701 to replace it with Transformer, which I currently own. This was done after careful consideration and study of my needs and available products at the time. When choosing a replacement for EEE PC, my priorities were (beginning with the most important):
1. Fast browsing (waiting for EEE PC to boot became a headache) and emailing.
2. Similar productivity capabilities (I mostly work in Google Docs environment with occasional editing of normal documents and spreadsheets)
3. Occasional movies (EEE PC couldn’t handle 720p)
4. Showing pictures to friends (rare occasions)
5. Games, when there’s no work in sight.
When considering a replacement, I took into the account other devices – a better netbook, a smartphone, a normal laptop and, of course, a tablet, which I eventually chose (Transformer + dock keyboard). The start was pretty nice, until I’ve experienced full “features” of Android Honeycomb…
1. Browsing is not what I expected. In PC’s most browsers work the same, render pages in the same fashion, offer similar capabilities. In Android, most browsers are like day and night in some areas. E.g. only in 1 of 5 browsers I tried I was able to move between cells in Google Spreadsheets with my keys on the keyboard (other browsers moved the scroll bar). I’ve constantly encounter(ed) sites that recognized my tablet as a phone, redirecting me to a low resolution version. And by the way – without internet (I’m using the version without 3G) it’s rather useless.
2. Enough to say that a tablet is not meant to be used for a document editing. It’s basically a pain in the arse. Polaris app is more a WYSIWYG html editor than a document app, “Documents to go” app is let’s say a bit expensive. I’ve also did not know how hard it is to use copy-paste mechanism. I do use this in my editing a lot.
3. Movies also are a pickle. While PC can decode almost any format (by choosing a right decoder), Android can’t offer such capabilities. I have 5 different players, which I use to decode movies. Till now I didn’t encounter any movie that can be played in all 5 players, usually 1-2 players (sometimes – none) can open the movie. Subtitles (I watch anime sometimes) are also a headache. Didn’t know that earlier.
4. Picture showing is, let’s say, ok. But only after one update when Gallery app started to act properly, i.e. show pictures in an ascending fashion (before that I had to scroll to the end of the gallery to start showing pictures from the start).
5. Games… Well, what I found out that I simply hate trivial / casual games and the market is full of them. Angry birds / fruit ninja entertained me for one day only.
To make things worse, Google still doesn’t offer a separate search for tabled optimized apps and, most importantly, the market does not offer capabilities of filtering crapware. I found out that there are websites, rating apps in a proper way, but this is still a nightmare.
After this, I’ve tried to search for answers to solve the mentioned problems, but it seems the Android platform is still very young and it will take some time for it to become mature in the software area. By that time the hardware will be different and my current tablet will be let’s say pretty much useless. So keeping it and waiting for a miracle (I’ve thought that Android 4.0 could be a solution) may be not a viable solution… Unless you’ll convince me otherwise.
Rants aside, I’m considering to sell the tablet and buy a smartphone (maybe a HTC Desire S ?). Of course I won’t be able to edit documents or have a big screen for movies, but I hope having a great time with phone optimized apps, blazing fast boot times, better internet availability (I mean 3G).
Your opinions and suggestions about the current situation are very welcome. For me, it's a hard (and maybe an expensive) decision.
P.S. I’ve also considered buying a Windows 7 tablet (which would suit my needs), but found out that the user interface is still VERY hard to control with touches. I’ve also thought about waiting for a Windows 8 tablet, but it seems it won’t be able to run x86 programs, meaning an Android-like situation with little availability of useful software.

No offense, but after reading your post carefully I decided any reply I have is futile. You got the transformer with the wrong attitude. You've been using it with the wrong attitude. And you've been expecting things with ALL the wrong attitude.
It's best that you stick with a win 7 netbook or notebook.
PS - I have not touched my laptop since April. Between my PC at home and my transformer on-the-go, I have no complaint whatsoever. I see your complaints comparable to the complaints of someone who got a motorcycle intending to use it like a car.

goodintentions said:
No offense, but after reading your post carefully I decided any reply I have is futile. You got the transformer with the wrong attitude. You've been using it with the wrong attitude. And you've been expecting things with ALL the wrong attitude.
It's best that you stick with a win 7 netbook or notebook.
PS - I have not touched my laptop since April. Between my PC at home and my transformer on-the-go, I have no complaint whatsoever. I see your complaints comparable to the complaints of someone who got a motorcycle intending to use it like a car.
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Thank you for an oppinion. Yes - my expectations were "something resembling a netbook with a hint of phone". But it's neither a phone, nor a netbook and the tasks I wanted it to do were very limited by the software, which I didn't take into account when considered buying a tablet...

i agree more or less. i owned a 701 too btw. i now own among others an eeepc 1015pem. but i use my transformer all the time. google editing is a bit awkward yes, especially with large docs, but google has his own application for that. it eases the pain a bit.
copy and paste, yes editing is not that easy. i own docs to go, but the user interface is not that intuitive. polaris seems to saves not always that good (it cant be opened with all others wordprocessors). open document format is not very easy to use.
but still i prefer transformer at work for all sort of reasons:
* battery, i can use the transformer (with dock) all day long, with no other hussle.
* it is cool
* boy is the transformer silent - i like that way more than i anticipated.
* the touchscreen, although not always that easy, i love it.
* being more in the cloud (dropbox with 50gb), gmail, and polaris/docs to go, calendar, google contacts, it all works together: fast and easy. i like that too.
* i like the looks, and the way the transformer feels.
* at work with dock, at home: mostly tablet: reading, viewing, surfing
btw i am used to use linux on my netbooks, win 7 moves like a snail.
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I have to agree with GoodInte tions over there; which is ironic because the EeePC 1015PE Netbook that I havent touched since September, was bought in April .
For your needs Android is not effective, for me it is almost as effective as BSD or GNU/Linux; where you use gdocs I use programs that I can run in a Debian chroot or I use a PC, rather than try and use LibreOffice locally with X/VNC.
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For someone who took the time to write that thorough analysis, I would have thought you researched the TF with the same level of thoroughness. Everything you point out in your dissertation has been discussed in detail on this forum.

Yes.. exactly what Rumbleweed said. You said you bought this 3 months ago; then you got it around September, which was about 2 months after I got my transformer (if you got it right at the start). When I first got my tablet, I didn't look through any of the online stuff, but I did start about a week after getting it (to know how else I could improve it further, but I was pretty lucky as my B5 had no problems except for a slight creakiness on one side).
Anyway, by around 4.5 months ago, I already knew several points:
-browsing rendering had some issues, some of which was solved by hardware acceleration, etc. (although, I didn't really notice this as an issue until I looked online because my laptop is old and slower by far)
-document editing is a little flawed because typing lags behind the physical typing
-movies.. well, I saw lots of threads about not being able to play 720p except in Dice Player or something, but I don't really watch HD stuff often except maybe for tennis (btw, espn 360 worked perfectly and looked great for streaming)
-there are a lot of trivial games (I was disappointed with this one too, but I found the emulators soon after, so I haven't played much other trivial games except for the more addictive looking tower defense ones)
tl;dr: I don't understand how you didn't know this by the time you got it as you seem pretty thorough (as per your post). Good luck though, I wanted a Windows 7 tablet before in the past, but they're either expensive as hell or ugly looking as hell.. We just need Google and other tablet-making-companies to realize that tablets are for more than entertainment.

asdfuogh said:
I was pretty lucky as my B5 had no problems except for a slight creakiness on one side).
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OT but I always thought it was just me and my B50 with that, on the right/starboard side. Just happy to have none of the serious problems I read about here lol.
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Honestly, why not root and stick Ubuntu on there? I realize this would destroy the Android flavor, but that's obviously not what you're looking for.
Specifically:
1. How is not having 3G any different from your EEE PC with wifi? If you wanted the TF with 3G, there's a 3G version. Otherwise, I'm sure your mobile carrier will happily sell you a hotspot device and plan.
2. Do you have the dock? Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, Ctrl+X all work for me on the dock. As for an office suite, how about using GDocs? I know it's not as slick as MS Office or LibreOffice, but it's pretty functional.
3. Yeah, I've found that anime can be something of a pain at 720p and decoders aren't brilliant on Android. It's what happens when the majority of the population uses iTunes, Netflix and Hulu for their media, manufacturers get lazy. I really wish VLC would come to Android, with proper codec support (especially with ICS' per-app hardware acceleration capabilities).
4. You know there are non-Gallery photo viewer apps, right? That's the beauty of Android, EVERYTHING (especially if you have root ) can be replaced.
5. Have you looked at the TegraZone? Or some websites for game reviews? It's honestly like trying to find a game for PC, there's a lot of crap to wade through, even in non-casual games.

laikinasis said:
1. Browsing is not what I expected. In PC’s most browsers work the same, render pages in the same fashion, offer similar capabilities. In Android, most browsers are like day and night in some areas. E.g. only in 1 of 5 browsers I tried I was able to move between cells in Google Spreadsheets with my keys on the keyboard (other browsers moved the scroll bar). I’ve constantly encounter(ed) sites that recognized my tablet as a phone, redirecting me to a low resolution version. And by the way – without internet (I’m using the version without 3G) it’s rather useless.
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Have you tried using Polaris Office with GDocs syncing? I know Polaris has some Google Docs support. Does the Android app for Google Docs work at all for you? As for the internet comment, how was your Eee PC any different? The TF and PC are the same in that regard. This isn't a Chromebook or anything...
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3. Movies also are a pickle. While PC can decode almost any format (by choosing a right decoder), Android can’t offer such capabilities. I have 5 different players, which I use to decode movies. Till now I didn’t encounter any movie that can be played in all 5 players, usually 1-2 players (sometimes – none) can open the movie. Subtitles (I watch anime sometimes) are also a headache. Didn’t know that earlier.
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I've had no issues with media playback since Dice Player came out. It handles all of my 720p or smaller video no problem. Even scenes that were always an absolute ***** on my tablet, like high bitrate Big Bang Theory intro (that always raped it) run great in Dice.
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4. Picture showing is, let’s say, ok. But only after one update when Gallery app started to act properly, i.e. show pictures in an ascending fashion (before that I had to scroll to the end of the gallery to start showing pictures from the start).
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I'd say better than okay, I love how it syncs pictures between all of my devices with Picasa.
laikinasis said:
5. Games… Well, what I found out that I simply hate trivial / casual games and the market is full of them. Angry birds / fruit ninja entertained me for one day only.
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So keep looking. There are plenty of pretty featured RPGs. Go look at Gameloft games. Most of them are kinda crappy, but definitely more than angry birds.
laikinasis said:
After this, I’ve tried to search for answers to solve the mentioned problems, but it seems the Android platform is still very young and it will take some time for it to become mature in the software area. By that time the hardware will be different and my current tablet will be let’s say pretty much useless. So keeping it and waiting for a miracle (I’ve thought that Android 4.0 could be a solution) may be not a viable solution… Unless you’ll convince me otherwise.
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Uhh.. just because Tegra 3 is coming out doesn't make tegra 2 any worse... the TF 1 is still amazing hardware.
laikinasis said:
Rants aside, I’m considering to sell the tablet and buy a smartphone (maybe a HTC Desire S ?). Of course I won’t be able to edit documents or have a big screen for movies, but I hope having a great time with phone optimized apps, blazing fast boot times, better internet availability (I mean 3G).
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You don't currently have a smartphone? I'm far more productive with both. It's easy to pull out the phone for 5 minutes and check my email, read news, etc, but as soon as I need to reply to a client, the phone is absolutely useless and I pull out the TF. I tether my TF to my phone for 3G/4G anywhere. If I need to open a large PDF, spreadsheet, ppt, etc it's a pain to do it on the phone, but so much better on a tablet. Ebooks are also great on the TF, as is videos.
Other pros: super thin, battery life is simply *amazing* (I can be on it for 14 hours a day and it doesn't need a charge), quiet, no heat, great audio output for music/video with voodoo sound, touchscreen that lets me take complex math notes that would be hard to type quickly, allows me to draw out theories and ideas anywhere I am (I used this all the time for solving puzzles in video games, working out the answers to the google nexus twitter challenges), plus it turns into a freaking TABLET when you disconnect it (call it a gimmick all you want, it's still badass).
Sent from my Transformer TF101

asdfuogh said:
Anyway, by around 4.5 months ago, I already knew several points:
-browsing rendering had some issues, some of which was solved by hardware acceleration, etc. (although, I didn't really notice this as an issue until I looked online because my laptop is old and slower by far)
-document editing is a little flawed because typing lags behind the physical typing
-movies.. well, I saw lots of threads about not being able to play 720p except in Dice Player or something, but I don't really watch HD stuff often except maybe for tennis (btw, espn 360 worked perfectly and looked great for streaming)
-there are a lot of trivial games (I was disappointed with this one too, but I found the emulators soon after, so I haven't played much other trivial games except for the more addictive looking tower defense ones)
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By the silimilar time I did not know about:
1. Google market search (how it's hard to find a decent app or a tablet optimized app)
2. Copy paste issues (ctrl+c / ctrl+v is STILL not supported in many apps)
3. Video playback. It's rather annoying to use ~5 video players. 720p by itself is not an issue. Almost all players support native (hadware) decoding. I had more problems trying to open lower resolution movies in, I presume, less common containers / codecs.
4. Page rendering in browsing. I mean that different browsers may render the same page differently. This was an issue in pc world loooong time ago and it's now almost non-existent.
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We just need Google and other tablet-making-companies to realize that tablets are for more than entertainment.
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It's an interesting thought that I do relate.

Gary13579 said:
Have you tried using Polaris Office with GDocs syncing? I know Polaris has some Google Docs support. Does the Android app for Google Docs work at all for you? As for the internet comment, how was your Eee PC any different? The TF and PC are the same in that regard. This isn't a Chromebook or anything...
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Didn't know about Polaris GDocs support, thanks. It works rather how I expect it to work... Speaking about Google Docs - the most common task I do is writing grades to studens in a spreadsheet. In normal PC's, you click a cell, write something, click on another. In Google docs (and most browsers I tried on Android, except one, that is REALLY slow) you click a cell, edit it and must press "SUMBIT". It's a big setback, when you consider larger amounts of editing.
Gary13579 said:
I've had no issues with media playback since Dice Player came out. It handles all of my 720p or smaller video no problem. Even scenes that were always an absolute ***** on my tablet, like high bitrate Big Bang Theory intro (that always raped it) run great in Dice.
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I use that player too. Lots of unopened files, like with other players. Again, it's not about the smoothness of the playback, it's about supporting different codecs / containers.
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I'd say better than okay, I love how it syncs pictures between all of my devices with Picasa.
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Could you suggest an app, which would work like default Gallery app, but support inner folders ?
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So keep looking. There are plenty of pretty featured RPGs. Go look at Gameloft games. Most of them are kinda crappy, but definitely more than angry birds.
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Believe me, I am looking
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You don't currently have a smartphone? I'm far more productive with both. It's easy to pull out the phone for 5 minutes and check my email, read news, etc, but as soon as I need to reply to a client, the phone is absolutely useless and I pull out the TF. I tether my TF to my phone for 3G/4G anywhere. If I need to open a large PDF, spreadsheet, ppt, etc it's a pain to do it on the phone, but so much better on a tablet. Ebooks are also great on the TF, as is videos.
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I thought about owning both of them. Maybe it's the solution I'm looking for, but now it seems that phone may replace most of the tablet functions.
Thanks for your answer.

I have to say, i bought the TF with the premise of getting a tablet that was at least as good as an iPad, without paying Apple Tax. After three months, I am also quite disappointed with the tablet.
I think what a lot of members on this specific website seem to forget, is that many people want to buy a tablet to just use, not to have to tweak and hack to get it to work.
I still cannot play live streamed 30fps 480p flash videos without juddering.
Apps (especially games) for Android simply are not up to the same quality as iOS - this is obviously due to developers not bothering with the platform. And compatibility issues is probably the biggest joke I have ever seen. Even Windows doesn't have that problem.
My own opinion is that HC was simply developed quickly to try and compete with tablet iOS, and was rushed out. I don't know how much of a difference ICS will make - that remains to be seen.
My biggest issue however, is as I said earlier. While I and most people on this website don't mind tinkering and tweaking with their tablet, the vast majority of customers looking for a tablet want it to just work - and HC doesn't. And the hard truth is, iOS does. Except flash, obviously.

Kaltern said:
I think what a lot of members on this specific website seem to forget, is that many people want to buy a tablet to just use, not to have to tweak and hack to get it to work.
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Recheck the title of this website. XDA Developers. Kind of like buying a 1968 GTO based on a recommendation in Hot Rod magazine then complaining that it doesn't get 35 mpg like a 2011 Prius. If you are looking for a " tap and play" tablet get an ipad.

Hey there,
hope nobody metioned it before, but why didn't you try installing ubuntu on your TF?
Well in my opinion its an even better os than windows and you get a bunch of free software with ease.
There is a thread over in the qa-forum from lilstevie giving you a pretty easy way to install ubuntu (as long as you got sbk1 at the moment)
It got no hardware graphics acceleration at this point but it didn't sound as you would need it.
Maybe this can save you a few bugs
Greets, coni
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A lot of your cons will be fixed with the Android 4.0 update.

When I first bought my transformer, I fully agreed with everything you said. I even wanted to sell it because I felt I had wasted my money. But I have to say it is growing on me, for two different reasons.
1) Problems are getting fixed. Better software is coming out or I'm finding solutions to the problems I had. Just the other day I updated flash and started using stock browser to for tudou.com (Chinese youtube), and the videos played flawlessly. Astro made a update recently that greatly improved my file management experience. Granted solving these problems/waiting for updates is still a pain in the ass. But progress is being made.
2) I'm finding things I can do on the transformer that I couldn't do on a laptop. I was taking short notes during an evaluation of one of our teachers. I used evernote with swype (no dock), and it was a great silent experience with no laptop screen blocking my view. Reading books on the transformer is also great. It even got me to start reading comic books, The Walking Dead is a freaking awesome series. I never would have known about were it not for the transformer. And pictures, I feel you on the backwards order thing. But you can't compare sharing pictures on the transformer with a laptop. It's so much better on the transformer.
I still agree that 99% of the games are just terrible. If they can get playstation emulation working a good bit better graphics wise, I'll be happy. Speaking of which, I need to check to see if there have been any recent improvements to the sixaxis app and the emulators.

I like the simplicity of the iPad with the complexity of Android. Minus HC. Not a fan. I have this and the OC Ipad. I like games like Madden 12 and the new NFS and Riptide. Lots of nice graphics. One thing that frustrates me is there are Tegra 3 games out that will not work on Tegra 2. And there is not a huge offering for T2. So Will that mean T2 games will be obsolete?
I find Polaris and Docs to Go are just fine for preparing reports and simple spreadsheets. The 16 X 9 screen is great for movies as well as the nice IPS screen on the Pad. I give the speaker quality to the ipad. Not a fan of the speakers on the Transformer.
Hardware wise, the Transformer blows the Ipad away. Better camera, more RAM, the dock, USB and the sdcard to add on. I think if you are creative then you are using a net book. Plus I can wireless print.
I don't think there is anything wrong with wishing for that perfectly fined tuned device and it will come in time.
To the OP I would recommend the Samsung galaxy note coming out early next year. 5.3 inch screen. IPS screen, dual core processor, phone, and great note taking ability.
I don't like Apples scam of upgrading every year and the costs are incredible. I'm praying for ICS and continued tweaking of problems.
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Really, what video formats has Dice been unable to open? It has opened *every* file I've thrown at it.
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Rumbleweed said:
Recheck the title of this website. XDA Developers. Kind of like buying a 1968 GTO based on a recommendation in Hot Rod magazine then complaining that it doesn't get 35 mpg like a 2011 Prius. If you are looking for a " tap and play" tablet get an ipad.
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Exactly the sort of reply I'd expect.
This site began as a Developer's site, but has since grown into a site for non-devs to get help and information.
You are basically saying that unless you know what 'sudo' means, you shouldn't buy anything other than an ipad, and you shouldn't be on this site.
Which is arrogant and well, not unexpected.

[IDEA]What do you do with TF101/tablet?

hi all,
we're all the current/future users of the TF101/SL101 or some other android tablet devices. One of the very important question is "What can we do with the machine?"
I have this question in my head before and after I bought it. I spend several hours on it every day and i'm still seeking my way to use it.
I have a phone with android loaded and I actually can't figure out the best way to use both of them. Can anyone of you share some of your experience??
I'm planning to use it as my ebook reader for replacing the e-ink reader (which is slow)....

Wifi-tether off of your phone = Instant netbook anywhere to do essentially anything on a computer. (Mostly time-wasting and school reports for me )

I use mine to watch bestiality porn and search for babies to eat

I'm going to forever remember that in my mind..... LOL

I use mine for voodoo rituals targeting Asus, NVIDIA, their coders and whoever decided to change the Secure Boot Key in B70+

A real answer? For pretty much everything. The Transformer has replaced my Android phone and even my Desktop PC (both not very High End) almost completely. I use it for browsig the web, consuming news (RSS, Twitter), E-Mailing, watching video, reading books and magazines, playing games and a lot more more or less important things.
When I go abroad I'll live Android only (the Defy and the Transformer with Dock of course, but probably no Windows machine) and I'm sure it will be fine.
Typed on a Transformer of course

Mostly for everything! Music, Movies,Gaming,Books,reports And Much more this thing has replace my laptop completely...Well except for the HARDCORE Gaming part but i soon hope to see that be solved by Nvidia Grid! Oh did i mention its cool and Very Portable !

Mostly pron whenever, wherever i want. And all kind of school things like Evernote for lecture notes, also some games, films of course, music sometimes and general net browsing. And all the little things you would need from computer not worth mentioning. Basically - everything. It's fully capable of replacing home PC for me.

Joking aside, if it weren't for the hopeless instability of ICS I'd buy a dock and use my TF101 as a full-blown netbook replacement (mail, browsing, remote server administration through SSH, reading PDF lecture handouts et al.).
My other routine tasks (eg. software development) are too demanding even for a netbook, let alone a tablet

sbiriguda said:
Joking aside, if it weren't for the hopeless instability of ICS I'd buy a dock and use my TF101 as a full-blown netbook replacement (mail, browsing, remote server administration through SSH, reading PDF lecture handouts et al.).
My other routine tasks (eg. software development) are too demanding even for a netbook, let alone a tablet
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As a fellow unix sysadmin, I can truly say that the TF101 is an *awesome* device for after-hours support... I connect to my work VPN, and then simply RDP to a "management" PC at work - at that point, I have full access to whatever I want, whenever I want, from anywhere that I want (even on the road with tethering)!
I normally don't even pull out my work laptop for after-hours support anymore (unless I'll be working on something for multiple hours)...
Obviously, the keyboard dock is a must-have for Unix support!!!
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I use mine for:
- video training for the CCNA exam
- movies/tv shows on the go
- display build orders while playing starcraft 2
- internet/YouTube in bed when I don't feel like getting up for pc
that's all fun and what not but the value of being able to study for my exam while at work is the biggest use for me. I've said it before and ill say it again. I purchased the tf as a toy but am still amazed at how useful it turned out to be.

I originally got mine to replace my kindle 2. I love to read but wanted to do more, see my books in color like they were meant to be and have the ability to get on the internet with a real browser. I have only had mine since Christmas and I use it for everything. I have stopped lugging my laptop around, with the software that came with the tablet, I remote into any of my machines at home. With the dock, connected, it's as if I was sitting in front of my computer at home with no problems at all. ****, I have even played games on my laptop through my tablet while at work because I had time to kill.
Right now I have been studying for 2 license exams I need for work and being able to up the book right where I left off makes it so much easier. Plus I don't have to carry around two 450 page books.
Hands down, it's the best tablet on the market and you should buy one today!

I replaced my laptop with it, which I used mostly while lying in bed. It can never replace my desktop though.

I almost replaced my desktop with my tablet. The only thing I still need it for is heavy Photoshop stuff (mobile pshop won't cut it), illustrator, lightroom etc. and for heavy gaming not just something like World of Goo.
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I use my transformer not only to work, read the news and relax but also to make life calm my two small children during long trips in the car ... a good movie, an excellent speaker bluetooth (mini boombox logitech) and after mi children just go into the world of dreams!

What do you use your xoom for?

As the topic speaks for itself, what do you guys use your tablet for? Been several months since I bought it now it seems to be of a bare use. Gaming device, multimedia( movie & photo collection) or education? I wanna use my device at its best
Sent from my Nexus 7 running Froyo.

My wife has complained how much I use my Xoom. Maybe i'm a tech junkie, but I love this thing.
Most favorite uses:
1. Watch movies/tv shows
2. Read books
3. Read comics
4. download torrents

My primary uses (and the apps I use) are:
* Web browsing (browser, Chrome, Boat)
* Reading Comics (Komik)
* Watching saved movies (MX, RockPlayer)
* Streaming movies (Netflix)
* email (Gmail)
* Twitter (TweetCaster)
* Backup (second string) laptop using keyboard case (Splashtop, iTap)
I have plenty of content/apps/etc. to (but don't necessarily want to): Read books (Google Books, Kindle), Read magazines (Play Magazines), Do light gaming (Madden, Crosscourt Tennis, Temple Run, Angry Birds, etc.), Attend lectures for online classes (Flash Player), Listen to music (Mortplayer), Edit images (Photoshop Touch)

Mine gets used for everything at the moment, as my laptop destroyed itself lmao
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Stream TV from my dreambox, look at movies, surf the web, play games and alarm-clock

lots of stuff..... the list goes on and on!

tablet

I use my Xoom for just about everything these days. It lets me get away from my desk. Most important uses are e-mail on the go, connectbot to log into and administer servers from the road, web-browsing, callendar, contacts list, note taking, etc. The only thing that I really wish it had was a better word processor, but I even use it for editing documents when I am away from the office with the apps that are available.
The other thing it is good for is eating up a day or two of time every now and then when I decide to try to upgrade to a new rom. I don't do it often enough and it atkes me a while to catch back up on what is going on in the rom world :silly:

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lots of stuff..... the list goes on and on!
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That's not helpful ~_~
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Gaming, surfing the web, twitter, fb, instagram, news, reading books, gaming again
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I mostly used it to reddit while i am in the potty

zerocrack said:
I mostly used it to reddit while i am in the potty
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When does the narwhal bacon?
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ionSeven said:
Mine gets used for everything at the moment, as my laptop destroyed itself lmao
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Same here.

I use mine for e-textbooks for school. They run about $80 vs $300. Also for games and YouTube.
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I'm trying to use mine as a desktop replacement, but I find there are some limitations that hiner that, in particular I seem to have issues with dropbox sync and quick office pro seems to have a number of limitations when working with large documents and spreadsheets. Great for kindle, evernote and wasting hours on Great Little War Game though

Unfortunatelly I did not use my Xoom much, so I just sold it a couple of weeks ago. I only had it for about 7 months.
Thought I would use it for surfing the web from the sofa or while travelling. Indeed I just wasted some time with crappy games or left it switched of for days. Some of my tasks required a pc so I did all my surfing and stuff there. I was a little sad giving it away but it was just too expensive and has a too high loss of value for leaving it in the box. Now I got an ultrabook wich fits my requirements better.

Reading books, gaming (CS FTW!), surfing the web, watching movies and soon to be used in university

I use it to look at p0rn LOL!!
Ok on a serious note, I barely use it. Only when I read manga, which the XOOM outdones itself for that simple task.

Gaming, YouTube, and browsing/emails.
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Maybe i'm a tech junkie, but I love this thing.
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Use my xoom for everything;
browsing,
email,
GPS (can mount it in my 4wd)
maps (live in outback Australia and go bush a lot),
videos,
movies,
work (download, fill in and upload about 150 pdf files a week),
lately getting into e-books,
the list goes on but I won't ,
my laptop is gathering dust in the corner (only used when I need to use adb).
Because of the great work of Team EOS I also get to update roms and this satisfied the geek in me.
Also love the portability; on a flight last week I could hold the xoom up to the window and get a GPS fix and then see what we were flying over on a map.

What is the primary use of your Nexus 7?

Hi Everyone I'm thinking of trading up the Transformer Prime for a Nexus 7. I got one for my mom, and I just like the size and feel in my hands vs the larger 10.1". My plan is to use to quickly take notes at meetings and the web.
My question is what does everyone primarily use their Nexus 7 for?

stream HD movies from my computer into the bedroom....

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stream HD movies from my computer into the bedroom....
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Using which App(s) ?

Mine gets used for pretty much everything, web browsing, films/tv, music, games, I've even done some java and python programming on it.

I use mine for email and bedroom internet surfing when at home.
When away, I use Google Wallet and games.

Google News/RSS reading via "Reader HD" app (Awesome!!)
Browsing
IMDB app lots while watching TV/movies
Kindle app reading books
A bit of Gmail, though I also do that on my BlackBerry
That's about it I think
EDIT as for location, I use it at home on my couch, bed, patio, etc. Also use it at my mom's place when I'm over visiting. That's about it.

I mainly use it to kill time on the tube/trains. Read books, listen to music, study my notes and play games. When I have a connection, I also use it to check emails, bus timetables etc.

I use it for internet browsing on the couch, watching youtube vids, playing games here and there, bringing to a friends house to play music from, using as an e-book when on lunch at work, setting alarms at work, etc.

Books music fun toy games and of course...
Flash & develop
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At the moment ? Photobucketplunder on Reddit :laugh:

80% - Stream movies from my networked hard drive - BSPlayer
15% - Browse
4% - Check e-mails
1% - Other stuff

My most common daily use is for reading news. Specifically the Currents app (love it), Reader HD, Reddit and Pocket. That, plus a bit of social network and gaming and it pretty much consumes me. As for productivity, I have a Personal and Work homescreen that each has corresponding Gmail and Tasks widgets. Love this device.

Flipboard (no need for browers, look very nice)
Tunein
Movie
Game
Book
Use most in order from top.

Believe it or not...work. I do some IT consulting on the side and I needed something to allow me to work in an emergency but was small enough to carry with me anywhere and everywhere. I own a full license for Teamviewer which works well on Android. I also have email addresses at 4 client locations so this is my "central hub" for work and personal mail. I love that I can VPN into the sites, access file shares, remote into servers and workstations, etc. (Just made a hell of a lot more sense than an iPad) I also do my accounting on it and can print my invoices right on site as I have the printers setup with Google cloud print and with PrinterShare it's no problem to send my PDF invoices right to the printers.
Oh, and the other usual crap...Netflix, web browsing, and browsing several forums with Tapatalk. Before I forget, I also manage my stocks with Ameritrade.
There's more, but that's the gist of it.
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Reading
Tapatalk
Movies/Videos
Games
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main use is as a reader....right now mainly comics, but also reading books and magazines. some light internetting, and used it at work the other day to show a youtube video of the rythmic gymnastics from the olympics...lol and just for fun the other day i used it as a navigation device for my car. it fits just nice in front of the information screen...thing......on my bmw..........that is until i hit the gas too hard, then it doesnt wanna stay
tldr.....i use it as a reader

I bought the Nexus 7 mainly for watching movies when I'm traveling. I also have an iPad 2 but find it a bit large/heavy. The Nexus 7 is great in that aspect.

Netflix when it's slow at work, Reddit and Facebook at home

HeCareth said:
Hi Everyone I'm thinking of trading up the Transformer Prime for a Nexus 7. I got one for my mom, and I just like the size and feel in my hands vs the larger 10.1". My plan is to use to quickly take notes at meetings and the web.
My question is what does everyone primarily use their Nexus 7 for?
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I have the Prime and it hasn't been touched since I got my 7.
Using it for music via bluetooth, taking notes at work meetings, video chat with my girl when I am traveling, access work cpu via Splashtop to write up orders, etc.
The 7 is absolutely perfect for my use. I use my Gnex only when the 7 is charging. Which isn't often.
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I mostly use mine passively for media consumption, web browsing & casual gaming. However the split screen pane in gmail when using a Nexus 7 means it's pretty good for emails too.