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Alright, so last night I was fooling around with "Type Fresh," which you guys have probably heard of. It was released here... It's a font changer...
Anyway, things were going good until I tried a font named, "Joystix," which replaced quite a few of my fonts. That caused my phone to go into a crazy bootloop.
So, at this point, I do not have Clockwork Recovery. I actually have the Stock Recovery. For some strange reason, my stock recovery just takes me to a screen with a red triangle, and factory reset just shows this hard drive and a loading bar that never goes anywhere before rebooting my phone into a boot loop.
I've checked to see if ADB will work in my stock recovery, and it does, except for the fact that my phone is, "offline," which is probably not good.
Is there anyway I can get my phone to work again? I remember when I was getting bootloops and I somehow got the phone to reinstall all the correct stuff after going into the stock Volume Down+Power thing a few days ago. I don't know or remember how. Like, it was going into the whole process of giving me the choices and said, "Do you want to update?" I said yes and voila, everything is back to normal. Sadly, this isn't the case atm. :|
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wauterboi said:
I've checked to see if ADB will work in my stock recovery, and it does, except for the fact that my phone is, "offline," which is probably not good.
Is there anyway I can get my phone to work again? I remember when I was getting bootloops and I somehow got the phone to reinstall all the correct stuff after going into the stock Volume Down+Power thing a few days ago. I don't know or remember how. Like, it was going into the whole process of giving me the choices and said, "Do you want to update?" I said yes and voila, everything is back to normal. Sadly, this isn't the case atm. :|
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Well I've never personally used type fresh to change fonts, I've done it in other ways. Just a thought for ya, but I would recommend that if you can get adb to recognize your device (cmd: adb devices) try booting into hboot(volume down + power), and see if it recognizes it regularly that way, from there I recommend trying a program called Droid. It's a windows program that I used when I messed up re-rooting my replacement mt4g (tip: Don't try rooting when having been awake for 26 hours for no apparent reason ). It has a feature called Debug Console which fixed a bootloop, and constant force close that I somehow managed. I also suggest pulling your sdcard, getting a usb scard reader, and installing the stock recovery zip (Pdimg or something like that, I forget off hand).
That's all I can think of, hope it helps
...I finally looked at my SDCard via my brother's phone.
Every thing in my SD Card pretty much has "Font" in front of it in regards to the name.
I mean... Yahoo became FontsYahoo.
wat
Solved.
For those who were wondering, I found out that I had to rename the recovery file to the PBNASFASodhwhatever it was.
I live in the Houston area. Bricked my A500 will pay you to fix email me . I went from CWM v5 1.3.4 to 1.7 and now I can only go into boot loader but nothing can be applied , tried different ROMS wipe everything still nothing
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If I lived in Houston I would try to help you, can't you get into recovery? What happens when you connect to your PC ?
twistedknickers said:
If I lived in Houston I would try to help you, can't you get into recovery? What happens when you connect to your PC ?
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No kidding, I don't live there either, but to help, we need some more information.
You are probably on the HC bootloader, which is why your roms won't install.
Check the bootloader Install sticky in the dev forum. You need to upgrade it to the V8 bootloader.
Then you can install the ICS and CM10 roms.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
No kidding, I don't live there either, but to help, we need some more information.
You are probably on the HC bootloader, which is why your roms won't install.
Check the bootloader Install sticky in the dev forum. You need to upgrade it to the V8 bootloader.
Then you can install the ICS and CM10 roms.
MD
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I have a similar problem. Bootloader V8 installed fine. But when I flashed different ROMs through CWM (install zip from SD card inside recovery), it hung at the screen "CZ's Bootloader V8, booting primary kernel" forever. Scratched my head for a couple of nights now, wondering what the glitch was. I even tried Bad Sector's V8 green. Same result. Help!!!!
Edit: I can still downgrade by flashing EUU (though not TD's V4, which installs fine but won't boot back up once I turn it off and on again???). Anyway, running HC 3.0.1 does make you feel like a Neanderthal. A clear instance of cruel and unusual punishment, I'd say. Even HC 3.2 won't stick! WTH?
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Moscow Desire said:
No kidding, I don't live there either, but to help, we need some more information.
You are probably on the HC bootloader, which is why your roms won't install.
Check the bootloader Install sticky in the dev forum. You need to upgrade it to the V8 bootloader.
Then you can install the ICS and CM10 roms.
MD
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Hello. Anyone? How about Mockba the Great? I'll do more than thank. I'll grovel at your feet (lol); or fly to your city vodka bottle in hand. Be compassionate and tell me something. Anything. Like my tablet is shot beyond salvage, so I can put it to rest. Why is it that I can flash EUU and use without problems but not any other upgrades? Is it possibly because of physical bad sectors lying in the path of data from the new roms (sizably larger than HC)? Or automatic remapping of NAND shot to hell? There's got to be some explanation.
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Hello. Anyone? How about Mockba the Great? I'll do more than thank. I'll grovel at your feet (lol); or fly to your city vodka bottle in hand. Be compassionate and tell me something. Anything. Like my tablet is shot beyond salvage, so I can put it to rest. Why is it that I can flash EUU and use without problems but not any other upgrades? Is it possibly because of physical bad sectors lying in the path of data from the new roms (sizably larger than HC)? Or automatic remapping of NAND shot to hell? There's got to be some explanation.
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I am not sure, but, I have the same problem. If I flash the EUU (Acer stock 3.01) , I can spend a couple of hours following the upgrade path all the way to ICS 4.03, then it seems no matter the boot loader/recovery combo I flash, I either end up stuck in APX, or I get the new boot loader/recovery, and the original Rom boots fine, but when I try to flash using fast boot I end up with the android on his back with the red exclamation.
It may or not be related, but the very first time I tried flashing a new ROM, I ended up stuck in APX, & the only way I could find to get out was to use Badsector. The next Rom I flashed left me again in APX, so, the first thing I went back to was BadSector, & it would not work. (Can't remember what the error was, but it wouldn't get far before stopping.) So, I tried APXFlash & it worked perfect. (Before I ran BadSector the first time I could not get APXFlash to work at all.)
Now I can flash as often as I want, but still can't get anything to work right. (Except Stock stuff????)
Danny2 said:
I am not sure, but, I have the same problem. If I flash the EUU (Acer stock 3.01) , I can spend a couple of hours following the upgrade path all the way to ICS 4.03, then it seems no matter the boot loader/recovery combo I flash, I either end up stuck in APX, or I get the new boot loader/recovery, and the original Rom boots fine, but when I try to flash using fast boot I end up with the android on his back with the red exclamation.
It may or not be related, but the very first time I tried flashing a new ROM, I ended up stuck in APX, & the only way I could find to get out was to use Badsector. The next Rom I flashed left me again in APX, so, the first thing I went back to was BadSector, & it would not work. (Can't remember what the error was, but it wouldn't get far before stopping.) So, I tried APXFlash & it worked perfect. (Before I ran BadSector the first time I could not get APXFlash to work at all.)
Now I can flash as often as I want, but still can't get anything to work right. (Except Stock stuff????)
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This is my guess: I was able to get someone with the right equipment to probe into the NAND and scan. The result shows random bad sectors all over the place. The scan lasted for more than a day without finishing, so eventually remapping could not be executed. If the capability of the NAND to remap is exhausted then depending on your luck, if the ROM data fits into good sectors, you get to use the unit. If the cache partition has black holes in it, you'll get errors and operational aberrations. If I'm right, then this is purely a hardware issue which will come back to haunt sooner or later. Makes sense?
Since the NAND is soldered onto the Main Board, there is little chance of replacing the NAND, if you can find one, that is. Darn it!
graphdarnell said:
I have a similar problem. Bootloader V8 installed fine. But when I flashed different ROMs through CWM (install zip from SD card inside recovery), it hung at the screen "CZ's Bootloader V8, booting primary kernel" forever. Scratched my head for a couple of nights now, wondering what the glitch was. I even tried Bad Sector's V8 green. Same result. Help!!!!
Edit: I can still downgrade by flashing EUU (though not TD's V4, which installs fine but won't boot back up once I turn it off and on again???). Anyway, running HC 3.0.1 does make you feel like a Neanderthal. A clear instance of cruel and unusual punishment, I'd say. Even HC 3.2 won't stick! WTH?
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I had similar issue in the weekend, flashed Thor's JB romv17.....stuck on same screen as you, had a heck of a job getting things working again.....
So tdv4 installed without errors but wouldn't boot, is that correct? What screen did it get stuck at? With the earlier versions of timmydeans EUU u must boot straight to cwm and "fix permissions" in the "advanced" menu options (I think its in that option)
Other than that I can't offer u any further suggestions I'm afraid....
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Danke schoen dibb nz
dibb_nz said:
I had similar issue in the weekend, flashed Thor's JB romv17.....stuck on same screen as you, had a heck of a job getting things working again.....
So tdv4 installed without errors but wouldn't boot, is that correct? What screen did it get stuck at? With the earlier versions of timmydeans EUU u must boot straight to cwm and "fix permissions" in the "advanced" menu options (I think its in that option)
Other than that I can't offer u any further suggestions I'm afraid....
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This gives hope. With TD V4, it stops at power on - power lights on (white LED), but screen remains dark. Thanks for sharing your experience, I will definitely try when I get back to it at the end of the month. So if I'm slow in posting the outcomes, you know why. One more favor to ask: what do you do after fixing permissions while on earlier EUU (I remember seeing that option somewhere in the recovery menu)? Should I proceed to flash V4, then move up from there? If I install V8 Bootloader while on V4's ROM, would that hinder further flashings in any way? Many thanks again. And what is going on now with your JB ROM? And Happy Thanksgiving to all the Yanks in here!
Ok, so here's a little info for you folks. Not sure if it helps you or not, but might clear up some of the mess that's been going on concerning bootloader versions VS Roms.
So you run one of the RUUs files. That's fine. Essentially you should be back on an HC bootloader running an HC rom. At this point, all your partitions should be back in place, especially if you used TD's tool.
While you are in HC, and everything is running fine, you should make a note of your current UID number. Because, after upgrading to ICS, your UID number will probably change. (the converted SBK number should be the same with both). But the RUUs seem to mostly want an HC UID number.
The issue, is when upgrading to ICS. If you do this the normal way via OTA, you should eventually get to ICS with a stock ICS bootloader. At this point, I would leave it alone for a few days, just to make sure it runs normally. Again, get your new UID number.
Now, here may be what you folks are missing.
With the introduction of ICS, Acer pulled a fast one on us. They introduced a little file called recovery-boot.p, and also a recovery.sh file.Both reside in /system (not sure exactly which folder for one of them, might be /system/etc or /system/bin.)
The issue, is that if you NVFlash V8 bootloader, and let's say Thor CWM 1.7.2 or 1.7.3, without deleting those aforementioned files, when you boot your tab, guess what? Hasta La Vista CWM, and mr android is on his back deader than a doornail. Not to mention you might screw up a partition or 2 along the way. And then it's back doing the whole thing again, sorta like groundhog day.
If you get Skrilax_CZ's bootloader running, then there's no real reason why you can't load a compatible CWM to flash roms.
Personally, I don't like the little 1-app-does-all. I prefer the old fashioned way. NVFlash from a command line. This way, you can see if there's errors coming up. Also, you may have better luck trying one of the older packages for the V3 or V4 bootloader. If you guys are interested, I can research my other drives in a day or so, and come up with one of the original packages. Am sure I saved it somewhere.
But if you get the V8 loaded, then you can boot it into fastboot mode. From here, you can fastboot a good CWM image. And at this point, I strongly advise CWM 1.7.2 or 1.7.3. After you fastboot it, boot immediately into CWM recovery. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, and do your wipes and formats and immediately install a custom rom. If you boot back into your stock rom, sianara..... This is why it's best to already have your custom rom.zip on your SD card.
Now, roms, kernels and bootloaders. The rom you choose to install, is pretty important. It needs to be recent, and designed for the ICS bootloader (V8). Using some of the earlier roms with kernels is asking for trouble. HC based roms WILL NOT run on an ICS bootloader. Remember that also, and vica-versa.
It's possible, however unlikely, that one of you may have unrecoverable corrupt data on your chipset. It has happened, but it's rare. Generally, you will find this when you can't get anything running. Period. Or in the case I know, the user could not migrate from HC to ICS. But only 1 or 2 people I know have had this. Oh, 3. I forgot Civato who totally cooked his internal memory (more than likely while inventing his own version of TWRP)
Wipes and formats. Again, I can't stress this enough. There have been issues using TWRP when it comes to wipes and formats. It seems, sometimes, things don't get fully wiped. So, as I always do with CWM, remember those versions I quoted), always
Wipe Data/factory reset
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvak
Wipe battery stats (optional)
Goto Mounts and Storage
Format System
Format Flexrom
As we say, be nice, wipe twice.....
Then install the custom rom (not a stock rom, remember the 2 recovery files?)
MD
Thanks MD
Moscow Desire said:
Ok, so here's a little info for you folks. Not sure if it helps you or not, but might clear up some of the mess that's been going on concerning bootloader versions VS Roms.
So you run one of the RUUs files. That's fine. Essentially you should be back on an HC bootloader running an HC rom. At this point, all your partitions should be back in place, especially if you used TD's tool.
While you are in HC, and everything is running fine, you should make a note of your current UID number. Because, after upgrading to ICS, your UID number will probably change. (the converted SBK number should be the same with both). But the RUUs seem to mostly want an HC UID number.
The issue, is when upgrading to ICS. If you do this the normal way via OTA, you should eventually get to ICS with a stock ICS bootloader. At this point, I would leave it alone for a few days, just to make sure it runs normally. Again, get your new UID number.
Now, here may be what you folks are missing.
With the introduction of ICS, Acer pulled a fast one on us. They introduced a little file called recovery-boot.p, and also a recovery.sh file.Both reside in /system (not sure exactly which folder for one of them, might be /system/etc or /system/bin.)
The issue, is that if you NVFlash V8 bootloader, and let's say Thor CWM 1.7.2 or 1.7.3, without deleting those aforementioned files, when you boot your tab, guess what? Hasta La Vista CWM, and mr android is on his back deader than a doornail. Not to mention you might screw up a partition or 2 along the way. And then it's back doing the whole thing again, sorta like groundhog day.
If you get Skrilax_CZ's bootloader running, then there's no real reason why you can't load a compatible CWM to flash roms.
Personally, I don't like the little 1-app-does-all. I prefer the old fashioned way. NVFlash from a command line. This way, you can see if there's errors coming up. Also, you may have better luck trying one of the older packages for the V3 or V4 bootloader. If you guys are interested, I can research my other drives in a day or so, and come up with one of the original packages. Am sure I saved it somewhere.
But if you get the V8 loaded, then you can boot it into fastboot mode. From here, you can fastboot a good CWM image. And at this point, I strongly advise CWM 1.7.2 or 1.7.3. After you fastboot it, boot immediately into CWM recovery. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, and do your wipes and formats and immediately install a custom rom. If you boot back into your stock rom, sianara..... This is why it's best to already have your custom rom.zip on your SD card.
Now, roms, kernels and bootloaders. The rom you choose to install, is pretty important. It needs to be recent, and designed for the ICS bootloader (V8). Using some of the earlier roms with kernels is asking for trouble. HC based roms WILL NOT run on an ICS bootloader. Remember that also, and vica-versa.
It's possible, however unlikely, that one of you may have unrecoverable corrupt data on your chipset. It has happened, but it's rare. Generally, you will find this when you can't get anything running. Period. Or in the case I know, the user could not migrate from HC to ICS. But only 1 or 2 people I know have had this. Oh, 3. I forgot Civato who totally cooked his internal memory (more than likely while inventing his own version of TWRP)
Wipes and formats. Again, I can't stress this enough. There have been issues using TWRP when it comes to wipes and formats. It seems, sometimes, things don't get fully wiped. So, as I always do with CWM, remember those versions I quoted), always
Wipe Data/factory reset
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvak
Wipe battery stats (optional)
Goto Mounts and Storage
Format System
Format Flexrom
As we say, be nice, wipe twice.....
Then install the custom rom (not a stock rom, remember the 2 recovery files?)
MD
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Can't thank you enough MD, and dibb_nz too. Can't wait to get back to the tablet. Hopefully things will work out. When they do, I'll post the results for the perusal of similarly situated members.
graphdarnell said:
This gives hope. With TD V4, it stops at power on - power lights on (white LED), but screen remains dark. Thanks for sharing your experience, I will definitely try when I get back to it at the end of the month. So if I'm slow in posting the outcomes, you know why. One more favor to ask: what do you do after fixing permissions while on earlier EUU (I remember seeing that option somewhere in the recovery menu)? Should I proceed to flash V4, then move up from there? If I install V8 Bootloader while on V4's ROM, would that hinder further flashings in any way? Many thanks again. And what is going on now with your JB ROM? And Happy Thanksgiving to all the Yanks in here!
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Well after u fix permissions u boot straight back into cwmand flash the v8 and civatos cm 10 flex, which is exactly what I did after getting it up n running again. edit: no, u need the latest tdv4 - ...I'll post the link for it shortly....
I'd definitely uninstall the Acer drivers and reinstall them. When u connect to yr PC , windows will try to install the drivers....don't let it search windows updates, u have to be quick to cancel it....then it should install the drivers from the acer folder on yr PC which u just reinstalled....is that clear as mud, lol???
One more thought, u could get round all this driver business if u know linux at all....
But will w8 till u get a chance to spend some quality 'tab time'
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Moscow Desire said:
Ok, so here's a little info for you folks. Not sure if it helps you or not, but might clear up some of the mess that's been going on concerning bootloader versions VS Roms.
Now, here may be what you folks are missing.
With the introduction of ICS, Acer pulled a fast one on us. They introduced a little file called recovery-boot.p, and also a recovery.sh file.Both reside in /system (not sure exactly which folder for one of them, might be /system/etc or /system/bin.)
MD
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So, this might seem kind of obvious, but I want to be sure. I found the Recovery-from-boot.p file easily enough, and I found a file called "Install-recovery.sh" in the etc folder, which seems to call another file called "system/bin/sh".
So, do I delete (or possibly just re-name??) "recovery-from-boot.p" and "Install-recovery.sh"? And do I need to do anything with the "SH" file in "system/bin"? (Like delete or re-name?)
Thanks for this much clearer (but still not 100% clear) info about these files. I had read mention of "recovery-from -boot.p" in another post, but it didn't make clear where to find it, just that you needed to deal with it. This excellent post makes it much more obvious which files & where to find!
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So, this might seem kind of obvious, but I want to be sure. I found the Recovery-from-boot.p file easily enough, and I found a file called "Install-recovery.sh" in the etc folder, which seems to call another file called "system/bin/sh".
So, do I delete (or possibly just re-name??) "recovery-from-boot.p" and "Install-recovery.sh"? And do I need to do anything with the "SH" file in "system/bin"? (Like delete or re-name?)
Thanks for this much clearer (but still not 100% clear) info about these files. I had read mention of "recovery-from -boot.p" in another post, but it didn't make clear where to find it, just that you needed to deal with it. This excellent post makes it much more obvious which files & where to find!
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Just those 2 files
This will prevent overwriting your custom recovery on boot.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Just those 2 files
This will prevent overwriting your custom recovery on boot.
MD
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OK, Thanks
Progress report
dibb_nz said:
I had similar issue in the weekend, flashed Thor's JB romv17.....stuck on same screen as you, had a heck of a job getting things working again.....
So tdv4 installed without errors but wouldn't boot, is that correct? What screen did it get stuck at? With the earlier versions of timmydeans EUU u must boot straight to cwm and "fix permissions" in the "advanced" menu options (I think its in that option)
Other than that I can't offer u any further suggestions I'm afraid....
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I was able to follow MD's instructions and installed Re-Flexxx Rom. As to dibb-nz's advice, I couldn't find earlier versions of TD (there was a link that led to some silly software instead - hijacked?). So I reflashed V4 which after the first reboot took me to the setup part fine. However, a second reboot resulted in a dark screen with nothing doing. I tried accessing recovery in vain. I'm not sure earlier TD versions would yield differently. If I recall correctly, V4 only differs from V3 in that TD added XP drivers. Why the tablet behaved thus is beyond me. I intended this superfluous info as a warning to such possibility, however absurd it might appear.
Anyway, thanks to those who came to the rescue, and Merry Xmas to all.
graphdarnell said:
I was able to follow MD's instructions and installed Re-Flexxx Rom. As to dibb-nz's advice, I couldn't find earlier versions of TD (there was a link that led to some silly software instead - hijacked?). So I reflashed V4 which after the first reboot took me to the setup part fine. However, a second reboot resulted in a dark screen with nothing doing. I tried accessing recovery in vain. I'm not sure earlier TD versions would yield differently. If I recall correctly, V4 only differs from V3 in that TD added XP drivers. Why the tablet behaved thus is beyond me. I intended this superfluous info as a warning to such possibility, however absurd it might appear.
Anyway, thanks to those who came to the rescue, and Merry Xmas to all.
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can u provide a link 2 the tdv4 u used i will check it.....seems couple folks having yr issue, i wanna make sure the zip isn't corrupt...
ALSO: there are 2 ways to use the EUU -
1) as an upgrade tool - used to upgrade from one HC build to the next - just open and run with usb connected and
2) as a downgrade too - used to downgrade from the ICS back to HC - you run it by not connecting your usb cable and force apx mode
Im curoius as to why folks are getting stuck with the black screen - this happened couple months back too
and tho i have been stuck with it myself - i have never been able to replicate the issue..and believe me when i say i've done some crazy things with my tab in the process of trying... so would like to rule out a bad file...just in case its me causing all the problems, lol....feedback would be appreciated....
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Possibly corrupt V4?
dibb_nz said:
can u provide a link 2 the tdv4 u used i will check it.....seems couple folks having yr issue, i wanna make sure the zip isn't corrupt...
ALSO: there are 2 ways to use the EUU -
1) as an upgrade tool - used to upgrade from one HC build to the next - just open and run with usb connected and
2) as a downgrade too - used to downgrade from the ICS back to HC - you run it by not connecting your usb cable and force apx mode
Im curoius as to why folks are getting stuck with the black screen - this happened couple months back too
and tho i have been stuck with it myself - i have never been able to replicate the issue..and believe me when i say i've done some crazy things with my tab in the process of trying... so would like to rule out a bad file...just in case its me causing all the problems, lol....feedback would be appreciated....
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I'm almost sure I downloaded from the link provided in this thread, though I'd appreciate your not quoting me on it (lol). I remember downloading twice but cannot tell now which is which. Either way, I "upgraded" from HC 3.1 to 3.2, which is the version included in V4. Beyond that, I'm not sure what other information would help sort things out. Oddly enough, the first automatic reboot after flashing works fine and takes me through the whole setup process glitchlessly. It only happens on the following reboot. You can get into recovery 1.5, but fixing permissions won't do.
graphdarnell said:
I'm almost sure I downloaded from the link provided in this thread, though I'd appreciate your not quoting me on it (lol). I remember downloading twice but cannot tell now which is which. Either way, I "upgraded" from HC 3.1 to 3.2, which is the version included in V4. Beyond that, I'm not sure what other information would help sort things out.
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ok thanks for that - the v0-v2 required all sorts of jumping thru hoops to get root/cwm installed....when u finished the first flash you would end up with a LNX check sum error in red text on your tab and have to boot straight to recovery and fix checksum errors (not permissions as i said earlier)
v3/v4 now comes pre-rooted with cwm 1.5, which is what may be corrupting things if you are still have the v8 bootloader - altho in saying that, a few of us have been on HC3.01 with v8 and had no probs flashing a compatible ICS v8 rom from there...maybe it was just a fluke who knows...One thing I do know is you should really have a compatible recovery with the v8 - which is why all the flash packages come pre-loaded with a custom recovery....as MD said above you need to make doubly sure your rom/reocvery/bootloader are all compatible with each other. this applies whether they be stock or custom 'whatevers'....
Oddly enough, the first automatic reboot after flashing works fine and takes me through the whole setup process glitchlessly. It only happens on the following reboot. You can get into recovery 1.5, but fixing permissions won't do.
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and you have completed all the wipes as MD suggested, including toggling /data/media erase in cwm?
I realise you may have done everything correctly, this is more for the benefit of those folk "trying" to follow along
this is on 3.2?? you run the EUU ok, boot to android, and run thru the setup wizard, then the next reboot goes awry??
dibb_nz said:
ok thanks for that - the v0-v2 required all sorts of jumping thru hoops to get root/cwm installed....when u finished the first flash you would end up with a LNX check sum error in red text on your tab and have to boot straight to recovery and fix checksum errors (not permissions as i said earlier)
v3/v4 now comes pre-rooted with cwm 1.5, which is what may be corrupting things if you are still have the v8 bootloader - altho in saying that, a few of us have been on HC3.01 with v8 and had no probs flashing a compatible ICS v8 rom from there...maybe it was just a fluke who knows...One thing I do know is you should really have a compatible recovery with the v8 - which is why all the flash packages come pre-loaded with a custom recovery....as MD said above you need to make doubly sure your rom/reocvery/bootloader are all compatible with each other. this applies whether they be stock or custom 'whatevers'....
and you have completed all the wipes as MD suggested, including toggling /data/media erase in cwm?
I realise you may have done everything correctly, this is more for the benefit of those folk "trying" to follow along
this is on 3.2?? you run the EUU ok, boot to android, and run thru the setup wizard, then the next reboot goes awry??
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I was initially on 3.1 stock. I went to stock recovery which proceeded to erase whatever, then showed the android belly up with the triangle exclamation mark and so forth (The sd card contained no ROM at this point). I rebooted, then flashed V4 directly from inside 3.1 with debugging on. It "PASS" uneventfully, rebooted on its own to the setup wizard. Things function normally within that capsule (it showed HC 3.2 I believe). I turned it off after setup was done, then on again to experience the black SOD. I then went to Recovery 1.5, erase everything a few times, then rebooted. Same result. Eerily dead.
Then came the V8 Bootloader and Thor V20, and the tablet was resuscitated. Works fine now.
*Now Working for 4.3 Update* Will require an up-to-date install of 4.1.x first and then after re-boot, it will update to 4.3 (read post on next page).
Warning:
Because of of how weird step 7 was, I'd recommend NOT INSTALLING THE OTA and just waiting for a ROM to have the changes incorporated. This is the last time I'll install an OTA I think as the whole thing was sketchy at best. However, if you just insist doing the OTA, that's how I did it. It may not work for you. You'll probably brick your phone as I may have just gotten lucky.
Background:
I'm certainly not a developer but can wiggle my way around XDA and figure out what to do and how to do it from time to time without having to ask too many questions. This morning I got the notification that an OTA (over the air) Update was available for my HTC One Dev Edition (running the stock ROM) and I simply downloaded it and tried to flash the zip in Clockwork like I've done with countless other updated nightlies on various phones. It didn't work.
Solution:
I figured out after researching that the custom recovery wouldn't allow the OTA to be flashed and that the stock recovery would be needed to flash the OTA update. I also realized that it took a bunch of different threads to figure out how to make it all work and there didn't seem to be one thread on the HTC One forum that discussed how to do it so I figured I may as well write up what I did to help someone else--after all, so many folks have helped me on this forum and I've rarely had much to contribute of any real depth anyway--just repeating what others already had taught me.
How to:
You need to re-flash the original recovery to your phone so that CWM or TWRP are no longer your recovery. Obviously, now is the time to do a backup and I'd put it somewhere other than on the phone in case you really mess this up.
1. Get the stock recovery bits here https://www.dropbox.com/s/9wbux6a4kn0ndz9/StockRecovery-signed.zip
2. You'll need to un-pack the rar and there is a text file that has the instructions.
3. Of course, I didn't follow the instructions, I just plugged my phone into USB with debugging on and fired up cmd, changed into the directory where I extracted the files, cd'd into fastboot and typed "adb reboot bootloader" and waited until the phone rebooted into bootloader
4. I typed "fastboot devices" and hit enter to make sure I was connected to the phone still
5. Cd.. to get back to where the .bat files are and type install-recovery-windows.bat and the stock recovery is flashed to your HTC One.
6. Now unplug the thing and reboot and you'll get the notification again that the OTA update is ready to install and it will start to install.
7. Mine locked up. That's right, the damn OTA update stopped at about 1/4 of the way through. I figured I bricked the phone. I always figure I bricked it if something doesn't go exactly how I thought it would but I've never actually done it to any of my 6 or so devices. Then I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306996&page=2 and I turned off the phone by holding down the power and restarting it. It got all the way through and hung again so I reset the phone again. Then, it rebooted a few times and looked like it was going to never work right again, but I just let it keep rebooting and left it be and after a few minutes, less than 10, probably more than 5, I was back up and running and saw the android applications updating as expected after an update.
8. Now you'll want to re-flash your custom rom (TWRP, CWM) and I did that with Hasoon's All-in-one tool.
9. Re-get Root. You can do that with Hasoon's tool I suppose or however you prefer to root.
AGAIN:
Because of of how weird step 7 was, I'd recommend NOT INSTALLING THE OTA and just waiting for a ROM to have the changes incorporated. This is the last time I'll install an OTA I think as the whole thing was sketchy at best. However, if you just insist doing the OTA, that's how I did it. It may not work for you. You'll probably brick your phone as I may have just gotten lucky.
Hopefully someone will come up with a better way to do this and start a new thread and we can delete this one forever.
jay_ntwr said:
Warning:
Because of of how weird step 7 was, I'd recommend NOT INSTALLING THE OTA and just waiting for a ROM to have the changes incorporated. This is the last time I'll install an OTA I think as the whole thing was sketchy at best. However, if you just insist doing the OTA, that's how I did it. It may not work for you. You'll probably brick your phone as I may have just gotten lucky.
Background:
I'm certainly not a developer but can wiggle my way around XDA and figure out what to do and how to do it from time to time without having to ask too many questions. This morning I got the notification that an OTA (over the air) Update was available for my HTC One Dev Edition (running the stock ROM) and I simply downloaded it and tried to flash the zip in Clockwork like I've done with countless other updated nightlies on various phones. It didn't work.
Solution:
I figured out after researching that the custom recovery wouldn't allow the OTA to be flashed and that the stock recovery would be needed to flash the OTA update. I also realized that it took a bunch of different threads to figure out how to make it all work and there didn't seem to be one thread on the HTC One forum that discussed how to do it so I figured I may as well write up what I did to help someone else--after all, so many folks have helped me on this forum and I've rarely had much to contribute of any real depth anyway--just repeating what others already had taught me.
How to:
You need to re-flash the original recovery to your phone so that CWM or TWRP are no longer your recovery. Obviously, now is the time to do a backup and I'd put it somewhere other than on the phone in case you really mess this up.
1. Get the stock recovery bits here http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Flash_recovery_2.17.401.1.rar
2. You'll need to un-pack the rar and there is a text file that has the instructions.
3. Of course, I didn't follow the instructions, I just plugged my phone into USB with debugging on and fired up cmd, changed into the directory where I extracted the files, cd'd into fastboot and typed "adb reboot bootloader" and waited until the phone rebooted into bootloader
4. I typed "fastboot devices" and hit enter to make sure I was connected to the phone still
5. Cd.. to get back to where the .bat files are and type install-recovery-windows.bat and the stock recovery is flashed to your HTC One.
6. Now unplug the thing and reboot and you'll get the notification again that the OTA update is ready to install and it will start to install.
7. Mine locked up. That's right, the damn OTA update stopped at about 1/4 of the way through. I figured I bricked the phone. I always figure I bricked it if something doesn't go exactly how I thought it would but I've never actually done it to any of my 6 or so devices. Then I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306996&page=2 and I turned off the phone by holding down the power and restarting it. It got all the way through and hung again so I reset the phone again. Then, it rebooted a few times and looked like it was going to never work right again, but I just let it keep rebooting and left it be and after a few minutes, less than 10, probably more than 5, I was back up and running and saw the android applications updating as expected after an update.
8. Now you'll want to re-flash your custom rom (TWRP, CWM) and I did that with Hasoon's All-in-one tool.
9. Re-get Root. You can do that with Hasoon's tool I suppose or however you prefer to root.
AGAIN:
Because of of how weird step 7 was, I'd recommend NOT INSTALLING THE OTA and just waiting for a ROM to have the changes incorporated. This is the last time I'll install an OTA I think as the whole thing was sketchy at best. However, if you just insist doing the OTA, that's how I did it. It may not work for you. You'll probably brick your phone as I may have just gotten lucky.
Hopefully someone will come up with a better way to do this and start a new thread and we can delete this one forever.
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I appreciate you writing this up. It seems like I've never been able to find a good solution to installing the OTA updates post-root. That being said, do you have any idea what happened in Step 7 that made it finally work? I just don't understand how doing the same thing over and over finally just worked. I want to try installing an update, but I'm a little nervous to do it. And I don't know how else to make the pesky update notification go away without installing it.
trickinit said:
I appreciate you writing this up. It seems like I've never been able to find a good solution to installing the OTA updates post-root. That being said, do you have any idea what happened in Step 7 that made it finally work? I just don't understand how doing the same thing over and over finally just worked. I want to try installing an update, but I'm a little nervous to do it. And I don't know how else to make the pesky update notification go away without installing it.
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I really have no idea why Step 7 got so strange. The only thing that gave me a warm fuzzy whatsoever was that others were reporting that it was hanging and they just rebooted the phone over and over until it got all the way through the process. It could have something to do with the stock recovery for all I know--a bug perhaps. Again, it made me nervous and I won't do it again. I only did the write up so folks could see what happens and make a call whether or not they wanted to try it themselves and see the steps all on one page instead of getting stuck like I did and then finding the rest of the steps. That part sucked. At least you'll know what you're getting into though. Good luck one way or the other. Please post up if you do go through with it and what your results are.
Thank you for the info! Does sound like an awful lot of work though
jay_ntwr said:
I really have no idea why Step 7 got so strange. The only thing that gave me a warm fuzzy whatsoever was that others were reporting that it was hanging and they just rebooted the phone over and over until it got all the way through the process. It could have something to do with the stock recovery for all I know--a bug perhaps. Again, it made me nervous and I won't do it again. I only did the write up so folks could see what happens and make a call whether or not they wanted to try it themselves and see the steps all on one page instead of getting stuck like I did and then finding the rest of the steps. That part sucked. At least you'll know what you're getting into though. Good luck one way or the other. Please post up if you do go through with it and what your results are.
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I'm thinking I'll give it a go. I'll do a nandroid backup and store it on my pc. Worst case scenario, I'll just start over from scratch, re-root, and restore my backup. I'll make sure to report my results.
I just makes me wonder why bother using the OTA update if you already went through rooting and flashing custom recovery? It's just one step more to flash the custom ROM and at least you will get constant updates with the developer who created the custom ROM. To me it seems like you either stay stock if you want OTA updates or go the whole hog and use custom ROMs. Just my 2 cents.
shadowboy23 said:
I just makes me wonder why bother using the OTA update if you already went through rooting and flashing custom recovery?
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Well, in my case, I purchased the Dev edition straight from HTC so I automatically have a de-bloated OS from HTC instead of the ATT ROM that I would have gotten had I purchased the phone from the ATT Store. In that case, I'd no question have a custom ROM from the forum. I just didn't see the need this time around. I would have left the stock recovery, but I do like to make backups so ClockworkMod is something I can't live without. I suppose there are others in that same boat but they are probably few and far between. Really, I just hate to update my ROM since the phone is working how I want at the moment. It's hard to justify just blowing away a functioning OS, setting up everything again, etc. but I may do it again if the OTAs come frequently and/or the process is as strange as it was this past go around.
jay_ntwr said:
Warning:
Because of of how weird step 7 was, I'd recommend NOT INSTALLING THE OTA and just waiting for a ROM to have the changes incorporated. This is the last time I'll install an OTA I think as the whole thing was sketchy at best. However, if you just insist doing the OTA, that's how I did it. It may not work for you. You'll probably brick your phone as I may have just gotten lucky.
Background:
I'm certainly not a developer but can wiggle my way around XDA and figure out what to do and how to do it from time to time without having to ask too many questions. This morning I got the notification that an OTA (over the air) Update was available for my HTC One Dev Edition (running the stock ROM) and I simply downloaded it and tried to flash the zip in Clockwork like I've done with countless other updated nightlies on various phones. It didn't work.
Solution:
I figured out after researching that the custom recovery wouldn't allow the OTA to be flashed and that the stock recovery would be needed to flash the OTA update. I also realized that it took a bunch of different threads to figure out how to make it all work and there didn't seem to be one thread on the HTC One forum that discussed how to do it so I figured I may as well write up what I did to help someone else--after all, so many folks have helped me on this forum and I've rarely had much to contribute of any real depth anyway--just repeating what others already had taught me.
How to:
You need to re-flash the original recovery to your phone so that CWM or TWRP are no longer your recovery. Obviously, now is the time to do a backup and I'd put it somewhere other than on the phone in case you really mess this up.
1. Get the stock recovery bits here http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Flash_recovery_2.17.401.1.rar
2. You'll need to un-pack the rar and there is a text file that has the instructions.
3. Of course, I didn't follow the instructions, I just plugged my phone into USB with debugging on and fired up cmd, changed into the directory where I extracted the files, cd'd into fastboot and typed "adb reboot bootloader" and waited until the phone rebooted into bootloader
4. I typed "fastboot devices" and hit enter to make sure I was connected to the phone still
5. Cd.. to get back to where the .bat files are and type install-recovery-windows.bat and the stock recovery is flashed to your HTC One.
6. Now unplug the thing and reboot and you'll get the notification again that the OTA update is ready to install and it will start to install.
7. Mine locked up. That's right, the damn OTA update stopped at about 1/4 of the way through. I figured I bricked the phone. I always figure I bricked it if something doesn't go exactly how I thought it would but I've never actually done it to any of my 6 or so devices. Then I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306996&page=2 and I turned off the phone by holding down the power and restarting it. It got all the way through and hung again so I reset the phone again. Then, it rebooted a few times and looked like it was going to never work right again, but I just let it keep rebooting and left it be and after a few minutes, less than 10, probably more than 5, I was back up and running and saw the android applications updating as expected after an update.
8. Now you'll want to re-flash your custom rom (TWRP, CWM) and I did that with Hasoon's All-in-one tool.
9. Re-get Root. You can do that with Hasoon's tool I suppose or however you prefer to root.
AGAIN:
Because of of how weird step 7 was, I'd recommend NOT INSTALLING THE OTA and just waiting for a ROM to have the changes incorporated. This is the last time I'll install an OTA I think as the whole thing was sketchy at best. However, if you just insist doing the OTA, that's how I did it. It may not work for you. You'll probably brick your phone as I may have just gotten lucky.
Hopefully someone will come up with a better way to do this and start a new thread and we can delete this one forever.
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hi,
one question. this recovery.img i also can use for my htc one 802w? i use the original rom (4.1.2) on my htc one. i make s-off over htcdev.com install cwm802w.img . i become the info the system update to 4.2.2 is available but the phone cant install the update.
any people like help me?
best regards,
ps: sorry for my bad english
Does sound like an awful lot of work though
greengoose_at said:
hi,
one question. this recovery.img i also can use for my htc one 802w? i use the original rom (4.1.2) on my htc one. i make s-off over htcdev.com install cwm802w.img . i become the info the system update to 4.2.2 is available but the phone cant install the update.
any people like help me?
best regards,
ps: sorry for my bad english
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Just find a stock recovery for 802w, flash it to your phone and you should be fine to to OTA. The original post didn't mention if he's using 802w. If he's not, then the recovery.img can't be used for 802w.
How to get s_off , supercid 11111111
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I haven't been able to get this to work. I flashed back to the stock recovery, but when I attempt to install the update it gets about half way through before rebooting. It goes back into recovery, starts installing again, but then stops and just shows a red triangle with an exclamation mark. I can get the phone to reboot by holding the power button for 10 seconds, which boots it up normally. When it gets up and running, it's like nothing ever happened, but then the update notification reappears.
trickinit said:
I haven't been able to get this to work. I flashed back to the stock recovery, but when I attempt to install the update it gets about half way through before rebooting. It goes back into recovery, starts installing again, but then stops and just shows a red triangle with an exclamation mark. I can get the phone to reboot by holding the power button for 10 seconds, which boots it up normally. When it gets up and running, it's like nothing ever happened, but then the update notification reappears.
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I'm experiencing the same thing, can't seem to find anything about it...
With the new 4.3 rolling out on the Dev editions, I decided it was time to try this again. What I found was I had to update to a something prior to the new 4.3. In other words, it was still one of the 1.29 streams that updated first and did just like the last time I did this. The thing stopped, locked up, had to hold the power button down, locked up again, reset again, then it was fine. As soon as the phone booted, the 4.3 update was available and I installed that without any issues. So, the method above still works and even with the weirdness I felt a little better this go around.
Good luck.
sunnyyen said:
Just find a stock recovery for 802w, flash it to your phone and you should be fine to to OTA. The original post didn't mention if he's using 802w. If he's not, then the recovery.img can't be used for 802w.
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I haven't really checked this thread in weeks. I'm not sure what an 802w is. If you can clarify, I'll check and post.
Totally ran just fine
I had to as stated roll back to the attached recovery, did that with fastboot and no problems, then restarted the phone, then had it start the OTA update, then read around debating if I want CWM or TeamWin, but before I notice, the progress bar got up past half way. Looked away for what must've been less than 5 minutes until it vibrated and was restarting itself. It restarted again, and then it loaded and updated all the apps... Seemed like the smoothest rooted update I've ever done, no forced restarting or anything!
I just bought my HTC One last friday, and I think I screwed up things a little bit, because the first thing I did after I charged it, was updating everything to 4.3, before unlocking the bootloader, getting s-off and before rooting the phone. So I ended up with the latest 4.3 on my phone, but it was a pain in the ass to root it properly. I was able to unlock the bootloader, but something must be different with the way 4.3 treats the internal storage distribution, because I was only able to get root, using TWRP and the latest version of SuperSu, but I wasn´t able to install Busybox.
It's a little bit weird, because although I was able to use Titaniumbackup to install some apps, apps like OTA Rootkeeper don't work properly. I also lost the stock calculator, flashlight and voice recorder, but I was able to install older versions again.
I think the only thing I regret is not getting s-off first, but I think this will only mean that I will have to wait for a revone update, or I will have to flash the boot.img after flashing a custom rom as I always did with my One X.
jay_ntwr said:
I haven't really checked this thread in weeks. I'm not sure what an 802w is. If you can clarify, I'll check and post.
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802w is Chinese dual sim version with different radio frequency
Sent from my HTC One dual sim using xda app-developers app
deepforest said:
802w is Chinese dual sim version with different radio frequency
Sent from my HTC One dual sim using xda app-developers app
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That is not the one I have then.
I have a rooted HTC one with stock rom. I relock the bootloader and I also have stock recovery.
I am on 4.19.401.5 version.
So, will it be possible for me to have new OTA update including Sense 6?
Should I install the missing applications also, like calculator and flashlight?
Hi,
I recently have fallen victim to this reboot loop issue and yes it is my own fault - all I wanted was to be able to get control of my permissions and installed Pwnmymoto - What I read later on a different thread was that the OTA update would brick my phone.
Now, I could careless since I can get a new phone.
I just have one simple question - Is there anyway to connect to my phone and extract all the data out via adb or any other manner since I know my encryption password?
Here is the breakdown to make things simple.
1. OTA updated keeps phone in infinite reboot loop.
2. Phone is encrypted.
3. I want to be able to retrive my data and just do not know how to connect to my phone because it is encrypted.
I truly would appreciate any help regarding this matter!!
Sincerely,
Tony
minitele said:
Hi,
I recently have fallen victim to this reboot loop issue and yes it is my own fault - all I wanted was to be able to get control of my permissions and installed Pwnmymoto - What I read later on a different thread was that the OTA update would brick my phone.
Now, I could careless since I can get a new phone.
I just have one simple question - Is there anyway to connect to my phone and extract all the data out via adb or any other manner since I know my encryption password?
Here is the breakdown to make things simple.
1. OTA updated keeps phone in infinite reboot loop.
2. Phone is encrypted.
3. I want to be able to retrive my data and just do not know how to connect to my phone because it is encrypted.
I truly would appreciate any help regarding this matter!!
Sincerely,
Tony
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this has been answered in more than one thread,
You don't have a valid recovery on your phone, you need to fastboot flash --> system, boot, recovery. This will get you out of the bootloop and let your phone update normally.
jimmydafish said:
this has been answered in more than one thread,
You don't have a valid recovery on your phone, you need to fastboot flash --> system, boot, recovery. This will get you out of the bootloop and let your phone update normally.
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Thanks for the reply man. I will be honest, I did try to search within the forums and there were so many articles I literally was slightly overwhelmed.
Would you be able to point to a specific thread which would provide some steps, I am sure I can follow it. I am a little gunshy since I ended up bricking my phone when I updated. I performed the root process no problem and was happy I could still actually do this stuff. I just dont want to make things worse than they already are.
Thanks again!
minitele said:
Thanks for the reply man. I will be honest, I did try to search within the forums and there were so many articles I literally was slightly overwhelmed.
Would you be able to point to a specific thread which would provide some steps, I am sure I can follow it. I am a little gunshy since I ended up bricking my phone when I updated. I performed the root process no problem and was happy I could still actually do this stuff. I just dont want to make things worse than they already are.
Thanks again!
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you should join the G+ community for much better and more pointed help. The forums get cluttered.
1) download correct 4.2.2 (57-1) FXZ file
2) extract boot, system, recovery from the file
3) fastboot flash each of the partitions to your phone
(fastboot flash boot boot.img)
(fastboot flash recovery recovery.img)
(fastboot flash system system.img)
Doing this will put your phone in a state where it is ready to update.
minitele said:
Hi,
I recently have fallen victim to this reboot loop issue and yes it is my own fault - all I wanted was to be able to get control of my permissions and installed Pwnmymoto - What I read later on a different thread was that the OTA update would brick my phone.
Now, I could careless since I can get a new phone.
I just have one simple question - Is there anyway to connect to my phone and extract all the data out via adb or any other manner since I know my encryption password?
Here is the breakdown to make things simple.
1. OTA updated keeps phone in infinite reboot loop.
2. Phone is encrypted.
3. I want to be able to retrive my data and just do not know how to connect to my phone because it is encrypted.
I truly would appreciate any help regarding this matter!!
Sincerely,
Tony
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what the above poster said is all accurate. but you can get your phone out of the bootloop by connecting it to fastboot mode and running fastboot erase cache. after you do that the phone will boot normally. Then you can take whatever data you want off it. then do what the above poster said to take the ota.
What happened was the ota downloaded to the phone and is forcing it to try and update the phone every time it boots. You need to erase that download which is located in /cache and then it wont force reboot thhe phone. this has also been answered many places. basically every thread titled brick or bootloop or whatever.
jayboyyyy said:
what the above poster said is all accurate. but you can get your phone out of the bootloop by connecting it to fastboot mode and running fastboot erase cache. after you do that the phone will boot normally. Then you can take whatever data you want off it. then do what the above poster said to take the ota.
What happened was the ota downloaded to the phone and is forcing it to try and update the phone every time it boots. You need to erase that download which is located in /cache and then it wont force reboot thhe phone. this has also been answered many places. basically every thread titled brick or bootloop or whatever.
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erasing cache will cause the following to happen,
You reboot your device, it downloads the update, you bootloop again, you wipe cache, your reboot your device, you download the update, your bootloop again.
@jayboyyyy why not just have him fix the problem that is causing the update and then he will update correctly to KitKat, isn't that the best possible outcome?
jimmydafish said:
erasing cache will cause the following to happen,
You reboot your device, it downloads the update, you bootloop again, you wipe cache, your reboot your device, you download the update, your bootloop again.
@jayboyyyy why not just have him fix the problem that is causing the update and then he will update correctly to KitKat, isn't that the best possible outcome?
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well for starters, it seems he is trying to go from original stock FW to 4.2.2 (he said he is using pwnmymoto so he isn't on 4.2.2 yet).
He also said he wants to keep root so he isn't trying to take 4.4 because he won't have root on that FW.
While flashing that stuff will fix his problem and allow him to take the ota, I always like to make backups of everything before doing that. he won't be able to make a tibu backup of his current set-up by doing what you said because it will remove root once he flashes that stuff. So when he then gets root on 4.2.2 he will not have a back up to work with. (I believe you were thinking he was trying to take 4.4, which he may be, but i didn't read it that way).
If he is trying to take 4.4 he should know that he won't have root and he might never have root on 4.4. So if it is essential to him, he should only be taking the 4.2.2 update.
And once he erases cache. he can freeze otas from popping up on his phone. Also, he won't keep getting stuck in a BL because it prompts you and asks if you want to download the latest ota. it doesn't auto download it, so if he doesn't click yes then it won't download or cause a Bbootloop.
Finally, if he doesn't want to try and root with rockmymoto to save time, he can just install pwnmymoto without running it, then take the ota, then it will automatically root the phone for him. This is why i said what i did.
jayboyyyy said:
well for starters, it seems he is trying to go from original stock FW to 4.2.2 (he said he is using pwnmymoto so he isn't on 4.2.2 yet).
He also said he wants to keep root so he isn't trying to take 4.4 because he won't have root on that FW.
While flashing that stuff will fix his problem and allow him to take the ota, I always like to make backups of everything before doing that. he won't be able to make a tibu backup of his current set-up by doing what you said because it will remove root once he flashes that stuff. So when he then gets root on 4.2.2 he will not have a back up to work with. (I believe you were thinking he was trying to take 4.4, which he may be, but i didn't read it that way).
If he is trying to take 4.4 he should know that he won't have root and he might never have root on 4.4. So if it is essential to him, he should only be taking the 4.2.2 update.
And once he erases cache. he can freeze otas from popping up on his phone. Also, he won't keep getting stuck in a BL because it prompts you and asks if you want to download the latest ota. it doesn't auto download it, so if he doesn't click yes then it won't download or cause a Bbootloop.
Finally, if he doesn't want to try and root with rockmymoto to save time, he can just install pwnmymoto without running it, then take the ota, then it will automatically root the phone for him. This is why i said what i did.
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Guys, Thank you for your input, it is really appreciated. ( I am glad the forums are still alive and just as helpful as when they started! )
I see that I may not have been as clear as I could have and for that I apologize.
My only goal at this time is to recover my data, since I have activated my old phone ( couldnt wait since it happened on sunday and this is my only phone).
Would the flashboot erase cache method fulfill my only goal which is to recover the data?
If so, are there any different steps that need to be taken to accomplish this?
Thank you again both for your input. If only the world would be discussing two SOLUTIONS to any problem, or worked as this thread , man would it be a much better place!!
minitele said:
Guys, Thank you for your input, it is really appreciated. ( I am glad the forums are still alive and just as helpful as when they started! )
I see that I may not have been as clear as I could have and for that I apologize.
My only goal at this time is to recover my data, since I have activated my old phone ( couldnt wait since it happened on sunday and this is my only phone).
Would the flashboot erase cache method fulfill my only goal which is to recover the data?
If so, are there any different steps that need to be taken to accomplish this?
Thank you again both for your input. If only the world would be discussing two SOLUTIONS to any problem, or worked as this thread , man would it be a much better place!!
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if you know how to use fastboot then no other steps are necessary. If you had root explorer on your phone, then you could just go to the cache directory and erase it before the phone bootloops again. most people have like 30 to 40 secs before it loops. Just another option. But all you need to do is remove the file from cache.
jayboyyyy said:
if you know how to use fastboot then no other steps are necessary. If you had root explorer on your phone, then you could just go to the cache directory and erase it before the phone bootloops again. most people have like 30 to 40 secs before it loops. Just another option. But all you need to do is remove the file from cache.
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Just a quick question - Will it matter if my device is encrypted? I only ask because it seems most tutorials never cover encrypted phones.
At least the 10 or so I have read, even youtube videos .
Thanks!
minitele said:
Just a quick question - Will it matter if my device is encrypted? I only ask because it seems most tutorials never cover encrypted phones.
At least the 10 or so I have read, even youtube videos .
Thanks!
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doubt it matters. I think encryption just encrypts user data and other stuff, not all of the phones files. but i could be wrong. I jsut think thats probably the case. i think encryption can cause problems when people are trying to write to certain directories that might be encrypted. I don't think you should run into an issue with the cache though. Not like it wills crew anything up trying.
jayboyyyy said:
doubt it matters. I think encryption just encrypts user data and other stuff, not all of the phones files. but i could be wrong. I jsut think thats probably the case. i think encryption can cause problems when people are trying to write to certain directories that might be encrypted. I don't think you should run into an issue with the cache though. Not like it wills crew anything up trying.
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Cool, I have taken a look at a youtube video regarding fastboot.
I will give it a shot and report, thanks again!
minitele said:
Cool, I have taken a look at a youtube video regarding fastboot.
I will give it a shot and report, thanks again!
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My Moto X is encrypted and can confirm that it will be fine after you fastboot flash boot, system, recovery. My phone was doing something similar when I tried to install OTA without returning the recovery partition to stock. One thing that I learned was that if you are trying to run fastboot command from an Ubuntu machine make sure you run it via sudo, otherwise your regular user will most likely not have permission and the fastboot command will fail.
tracyde said:
My Moto X is encrypted and can confirm that it will be fine after you fastboot flash boot, system, recovery. My phone was doing something similar when I tried to install OTA without returning the recovery partition to stock. One thing that I learned was that if you are trying to run fastboot command from an Ubuntu machine make sure you run it via sudo, otherwise your regular user will most likely not have permission and the fastboot command will fail.
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To all,
The forums and people in our arena never fail, fastboot erase cache worked perfect. I have recovered all my data and now I will definitely continue to performing a full recovery with stock image.
Thank you again all for all of your help, I am glad to see at least this corner in the internet still is alive and kicking!
The phone is a Moto g7, Verizon river xt1962-1, rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
I wanted to update to Magisk 19.4, so I made a TWRP backup and ran the unroot patch and went back to 19.3, but I still had the problem, so I decided to restore from the backup. After the backup, I am stuck in a bootloop, the whole "Your device is unlocked and cannot be trusted" screen over and over. I can get into TWRP, but no backup that I have tried will fix the boot loop. I tried a few things that just seemed obvious to me, clearing the cache and whatnot, but I am still stuck. I have adb and fastboot at the ready, but I don't know where to go from here.
I do not even know what build I am running, I cannot get into System / About to see, and I am not savvy enough to know any other way to find out. I know that it was current stock, missing only the most recent patches.
Is there a way that I can restore my phone? I would be grateful for any help. Damn, I love this g7 so much more than the Note phones that I had been using for years, but I was at least a little familiar with them. Thanks for any help.
Sounds like you'll need to fastboot flash a stock rom to your phone, use TWRP to get into the bootloader/fastboot mode, and also sounds like you messed up the boot.img when you were trying to go through that process. I just updated the Magisk app from within the app itself - no issues there. Might be a good time to update to a newer stock rom as well, might as well take advantage of the situation amirite?
But just for different options, here may be some useful links
Keep in mind, I haven't used either one of the methods in either links and I am not responsible for anything that occurs from your actions.
idk about this one but looks like it may help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g7/how-to/how-to-fix-g7-xt1962-1-stuck-bootloader-t3917792
this next one has the flashboot commands you'd need to also update your ROM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g7/how-to/moto-g7-xt1962-1-riverretail9-0ppos29-t3969067
Keep in mind, I haven't used either one of the methods in either links and I am not responsible for anything that occurs from your actions.
Anyways, good luck!
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The phone is a Moto g7, Verizon river xt1962-1, rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
I wanted to update to Magisk 19.4, so I made a TWRP backup and ran the unroot patch and went back to 19.3, but I still had the problem, so I decided to restore from the backup. After the backup, I am stuck in a bootloop, the whole "Your device is unlocked and cannot be trusted" screen over and over. I can get into TWRP, but no backup that I have tried will fix the boot loop. I tried a few things that just seemed obvious to me, clearing the cache and whatnot, but I am still stuck. I have adb and fastboot at the ready, but I don't know where to go from here.
I do not even know what build I am running, I cannot get into System / About to see, and I am not savvy enough to know any other way to find out. I know that it was current stock, missing only the most recent patches.
Is there a way that I can restore my phone? I would be grateful for any help. Damn, I love this g7 so much more than the Note phones that I had been using for years, but I was at least a little familiar with them. Thanks for any help.
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Try to flash the stock boot.img and you'll be fine. If you haven't got a stock boot.img you will find a backup of it in your /data partition (magisk does a backup of it by default). Just unpack the TWRP backup of your /data or download the latest firmware to get a boot.img
WoKoschekk said:
Try to flash the stock boot.img and you'll be fine. If you haven't got a stock boot.img you will find a backup of it in your /data partition (magisk does a backup of it by default). Just unpack the TWRP backup of your /data or download the latest firmware to get a boot.img
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Mate, I can't thank you enough, now I am back up.
I took advantage of the oppotunity to do a Titanium backup and flash the latest firmware, since I was still running old security updates.
I am not sure why the TWRP backups caused a bootloop, that concerns me. I am diligent about making one before any significant change, and now I see that none of them were good. It might be that the backup I applied included boot, and somehow that caused an issue.
In any case though, thanks a million. I would PM you a beer, but they tend to go flat when they hit the first ATM gateway. Hops and TCP encapsulation don't seem to be compatible, especially at > 9600 baud ?
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Sounds like you'll need to fastboot flash a stock rom to your phone, use TWRP to get into the bootloader/fastboot mode, and also sounds like you messed up the boot.img when you were trying to go through that process. I just updated the Magisk app from within the app itself - no issues there. Might be a good time to update to a newer stock rom as well, might as well take advantage of the situation amirite?
But just for different options, here may be some useful links
Keep in mind, I haven't used either one of the methods in either links and I am not responsible for anything that occurs from your actions.
idk about this one but looks like it may help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g7/how-to/how-to-fix-g7-xt1962-1-stuck-bootloader-t3917792
this next one has the flashboot commands you'd need to also update your ROM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g7/how-to/moto-g7-xt1962-1-riverretail9-0ppos29-t3969067
Keep in mind, I haven't used either one of the methods in either links and I am not responsible for anything that occurs from your actions.
Anyways, good luck!
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Thanks man, I really appreciate it! I did take advantage of the opportunity to update, something that had been bugging me for a while anyway.
I had updated Magisk to the beta through Manager, but a problem came up and I needed to step back to the stable version. That was where I messed up.
In a way though, it was just as well, since it forced me to spend a little time reading about the G7 ecosystem, something I really hadn't done much of yet. It used to be fun keeping up and flashing nightlies, etc, but over the past few years, it has got away from me. If it wasn't for a few specific things, I would almost stay stock. But I get uncomfortable thinking about the ridiculous amount of personal information a stock phone releases about us, so things like Signal and xPrivacylua are important to my sense of well being. Even if some of it is placebo.
zenful said:
Sounds like you'll need to fastboot flash a stock rom to your phone, use TWRP to get into the bootloader/fastboot mode, and also sounds like you messed up the boot.img when you were trying to go through that process. I just updated the Magisk app from within the app itself - no issues there. Might be a good time to update to a newer stock rom as well, might as well take advantage of the situation amirite?
But just for different options, here may be some useful links
Keep in mind, I haven't used either one of the methods in either links and I am not responsible for anything that occurs from your actions.
idk about this one but looks like it may help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g7/how-to/how-to-fix-g7-xt1962-1-stuck-bootloader-t3917792
this next one has the flashboot commands you'd need to also update your ROM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g7/how-to/moto-g7-xt1962-1-riverretail9-0ppos29-t3969067
Keep in mind, I haven't used either one of the methods in either links and I am not responsible for anything that occurs from your actions.
Anyways, good luck!
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Thanks man, I really appreciate it! I did take advantage of the opportunity to update, something that had been bugging me for a while anyway.
I had updated Magisk to the beta through Manager, but a problem came up and I needed to step back to the stable version. That was where I messed up.
In a way though, it was just as well, since it forced me to spend a little time reading about the G7 ecosystem, something I really hadn't done much of yet. It used to be fun keeping up and flashing nightlies, etc, but over the past few years, it has got away from me. If it wasn't for a few specific things, I would almost stay stock. But I get uncomfortable thinking about the ridiculous amount of personal information a stock phone releases about us, so things like Signal and xPrivacylua are important to my sense of well being. Even if some of it is placebo.
SmilingPerson said:
Mate, I can't thank you enough, now I am back up.
I took advantage of the oppotunity to do a Titanium backup and flash the latest firmware, since I was still running old security updates.
I am not sure why the TWRP backups caused a bootloop, that concerns me. I am diligent about making one before any significant change, and now I see that none of them were good. It might be that the backup I applied included boot, and somehow that caused an issue.
In any case though, thanks a million. I would PM you a beer, but they tend to go flat when they hit the first ATM gateway. Hops and TCP encapsulation don't seem to be compatible, especially at > 9600 baud
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I'm glad to hear that! Don't worry about the beer!
I had similar issues with my Moto g6+... Either the /data encryption or Magisk is the reason for a failed backup. Both can cause a bootloop. But it's always good to have a stock boot.img.
I'm reading this because of the same issue in a Moto G7 Power. I haven't been able to make it restore a backup at all of either stock or custom. Oh, it will restore it just won't boot. I think it has something to do with the A&B system slots. We use a TWRP that was made for system with A&B slots but then we flash a copy partition zip That I'm not sure what it does. Maybe I should take it apart and have a look. . Has anyone been able to restore a backup in the G7?
arkansawdave74 said:
I'm reading this because of the same issue in a Moto G7 Power. I haven't been able to make it restore a backup at all of either stock or custom. Oh, it will restore it just won't boot. I think it has something to do with the A&B system slots. We use a TWRP that was made for system with A&B slots but then we flash a copy partition zip That I'm not sure what it does. Maybe I should take it apart and have a look. . Has anyone been able to restore a backup in the G7?
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Do a full restore of boot, system and data.
Is data...
...encrypted => Then format data (not wipe!!) and reboot into system. When you see the "Welcome Screen" turn off your device and boot into TWRP again. Restore data and it should be fine.
...unencrypted => Then format data and restore data (w/o reboot!!)