A possible fix/help for the gingerbread battery charging - Galaxy S I9000 General

For anyone unaware, refer here. So a few days ago I was just charging my phone by my desk, and it had fully charged. At that point, I didn't really bother to unplug it as I had no need to use the phone. However, later on (about an hour or so later) when I took it out, it remained at 100% where as if I took it out immediately it would drop to 97%
It's probably not even a fix, just something that may help people if they want 100% battery. I don't know if it actually works for everyone, or I just get lucky.

blazevxi said:
For anyone unaware, refer here. So a few days ago I was just charging my phone by my desk, and it had fully charged. At that point, I didn't really bother to unplug it as I had no need to use the phone. However, later on (about an hour or so later) when I took it out, it remained at 100% where as if I took it out immediately it would drop to 97%
It's probably not even a fix, just something that may help people if they want 100% battery. I don't know if it actually works for everyone, or I just get lucky.
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Is this a feature right? where the power auto cut while charging reached 100% ??

Yeah it's a feature, just for me sometimes it goes to 100% when I unplug it

apologies for bumping up the old thread
i had JV1/JVP firmware with speedmod kernel installed about 3 months ago. Problem was, the battery would NOT charge once it reached 100%.
i.e. I left the charger plugged into the phone and used the phone to play games, surf the internet (data usage) etc, believing that the phone would stay charged because it was plugged in.
However, after I unplugged the charger (approx. an hour of phone usage) the battery was like 20~30% this was shocking....
at that time, whenever i reached full batt i had to unplug the charger. else i would be getting false 100% batts all the time.
problem solved when i flashed to JVR.

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Strange battery issues

I'm running a Sprint Mogul using no2chem's nueROM 2.2 Preview 7 (8's touchscreen issues made me downgrade), and having some very peculiar battery problems I'm hoping someone has advice about.
A few weeks ago I woke up, pulled my phone from the charger, and watched the battery instantly drop from 100% to around 83%. Over the next 15 minutes it dropped to the mid-70s before leveling out and discharging at a more normal rate. This occurred the next day and so on. Now this was with Seidio's 3200mAh extended battery. I then switched to my (sigh) OEM battery and didn't have the same problem, so assumed it was Seidio's battery, filled out an RMA, and sent it off to be repaired.
Now a couple of days ago the OEM battery started doing the same thing. I'd pull it off the charge and it would have somewhere in the range of 60% battery remaining. I'd have to plug it into my car charger or USB cable on my notebook to charge it up the rest of the way (albeit very slowly).
This morning I decided to watch the process from before I even unplugged it. First I noticed the orange light was on after a full night's charge. If memory serves me, the light's supposed to go out when it's at 100% (I may be mistaken). Meanwhile the battery meter was at 60%. I unplugged it and it remained there. I plugged it back in and watched no2chem's charge meter show the power connection, and I went ahead and left it plugged in for a little while before checking it again. It was now at 63%.
So what I'm finding is that at some point during the night my phone stops accepting a charge, despite the charge light remaining on.
I'm going to experiment with two things to further troubleshoot: tonight I'm swapping chargers with my wife's. I'm pretty sure the phone controls whether or not it's continuing to charge the battery, but I'm going to rule this out the only way I can. Then if that doesn't improve it I'm going to flash back to a Sprint official ROM (sigh) and see if maybe no2chem's power applet or power management settings are somehow causing this oddity.
Does anyone have any extra experiences with problems like this that might give me an idea of what else to try? Otherwise my thinking is if those two steps yield no improvements, then it's the phone's physical battery management hardware that's faulty and I'm going to have to use my insurance to replace the phone. I'd like to exhaust all the other resources before I spend the $50 on the deductible, though.
Thanks!
sometimes mine overheats while charging, at that point the LED flashes orange until it cools down enough to resume charging, this might be happening to your in the middle of the night
I thought I heard purple meant overheating. Either way, it's not clearly describing it. Also this has never happened before, so if it's happening every single night now, I've definitely got a problem.
Anyway, just plugged it in with my wife's charger. Let's see how it turns out in the morning.
You said :
"I'd have to plug it into my car charger or USB cable on my notebook to charge it up the rest of the way (albeit very slowly)."
Sure sounds like a bad charger.
worwig said:
Sure sounds like a bad charger.
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Now confirmed. Just pulled it off my wife's charger after a full night, at 100%. Five minutes later, 99%. Much better. I wonder what would cause the charger to stop charging halfway through the night, but keep the charge light on. Well, at least the mystery's been solved.
I am sort of having the same issue. A couple of weeks ago I decided to upgrade from the standard Verizon ROM for my xv6800 to DCD's 3.2.2 ROM. The upgrade went perfectly. I always plug in my phone every night before I go to bed. The light turns orange while it is charging and then it is green when I wake up. The phone always showed 100%. Now with the updated ROM, I do the same, plug in before I go to bed, the light turns orange, and it is green when I wake up. But, when I look at the battery level when I unplug it, it is usually at about 94%. The battery level also seems to go down quicker than before, but I figured that had to do with the GPS radio and WM6.1. Why do you think the battery would no longer show 100% when I unplug it? Seems very weird that right after I upgrade the ROM my battery would start failing.
jeffgman said:
I am sort of having the same issue. A couple of weeks ago I decided to upgrade from the standard Verizon ROM for my xv6800 to DCD's 3.2.2 ROM. The upgrade went perfectly. I always plug in my phone every night before I go to bed. The light turns orange while it is charging and then it is green when I wake up. The phone always showed 100%. Now with the updated ROM, I do the same, plug in before I go to bed, the light turns orange, and it is green when I wake up. But, when I look at the battery level when I unplug it, it is usually at about 94%. The battery level also seems to go down quicker than before, but I figured that had to do with the GPS radio and WM6.1. Why do you think the battery would no longer show 100% when I unplug it? Seems very weird that right after I upgrade the ROM my battery would start failing.
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DCD roms included new code to show 1% changes. The original code showed 10% changes only. Originally, you likely saw 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Now you see 95%, 94%, 93%, etc. It seldom goes to a perfect 100% and it LOOKS like it is discharging faster. In reality it is simply showing more detail.
worwig said:
DCD roms included new code to show 1% changes. The original code showed 10% changes only. Originally, you likely saw 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Now you see 95%, 94%, 93%, etc. It seldom goes to a perfect 100% and it LOOKS like it is discharging faster. In reality it is simply showing more detail.
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Yes, I noticed the 1% increments, I figured it was Windows Mobile 6.1 compared to 6.0. I think the old method was reporting in 5% blocks.
So, your battery never shows 100%? Very weird. So, my battery is probably fine and it is probably behaving just like it always has?
Thanks for the information.

Wow...just one calibration effort, the whole thing changed.

So I followed the calibration method outlined by Sprint/HTC and wow oh wow, completely night and day.
Before the calibration, I let the phone charged over night and unplugged it to go to work. Within first 2 minutes, it dropped about 4% which is crazy. The rest of the day is gradually fading and I get about 16 or so hours with very light usage.
Fast forward! Did the calibration by plug unplug, plug unplug for like 15 times while watching football. After the calibration, I pulled the plug and it's been almost 3 hours with only 1% gone. This is just crazy if you ask me by just a simple technique.
I'll let it go unplug to see how far I can get. Oh on top of this, I use setCPU to scale and JuiceDefender as well. Same settings before calibration.
vboyz103 said:
So I followed the calibration method outlined by Sprint/HTC and wow oh wow, completely night and day.
Before the calibration, I let the phone charged over night and unplugged it to go to work. Within first 2 minutes, it dropped about 4% which is crazy. The rest of the day is gradually fading and I get about 16 or so hours with very light usage.
Fast forward! Did the calibration by plug unplug, plug unplug for like 15 times while watching football. After the calibration, I pulled the plug and it's been almost 3 hours with only 1% gone. This is just crazy if you ask me by just a simple technique.
I'll let it go unplug to see how far I can get. Oh on top of this, I use setCPU to scale and JuiceDefender as well. Same settings before calibration.
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yep with my main battery its calibrated but my 2 new ones are not i can tell a big difference in the charge and drain
vboyz103 said:
So I followed the calibration method outlined by Sprint/HTC and wow oh wow, completely night and day.
Before the calibration, I let the phone charged over night and unplugged it to go to work. Within first 2 minutes, it dropped about 4% which is crazy. The rest of the day is gradually fading and I get about 16 or so hours with very light usage.
Fast forward! Did the calibration by plug unplug, plug unplug for like 15 times while watching football. After the calibration, I pulled the plug and it's been almost 3 hours with only 1% gone. This is just crazy if you ask me by just a simple technique.
I'll let it go unplug to see how far I can get. Oh on top of this, I use setCPU to scale and JuiceDefender as well. Same settings before calibration.
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Do you have a link?
mmark27 said:
Do you have a link?
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If I'm not mistaken its this:
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour
Please tell me if this is not what you were talking about.
I tried both methods and the only way it worked was if I did it every time I charged the phone.
Link to method? I want to try it out.
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freditoj said:
Link to method? I want to try it out.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Crap, I forgot where I saw it but I remembered it for the most part.
Charge your phone fully to 100%.
Once done, turn on the phone, the light should be green. Unplug it and wait until green led goes off. Now plug the phone back in and wait until green led goes ON (it will almost be immediate). Now turn the phone off and unplug the from charger, wait for led to go off, now plug the charge back and wait for the led to go ON (Note: if you are using CM6, I think the screen will turn on automatically when phone is plugged in. If so turn the phone/screen off). Now unplug and repeat this step for about 10-15 times.
After this, unplug your phone and let it sit and you'll notice the difference.
The method above is not what op was talking about. HTC method is above somewhere.
Charge with phone on for 8 hrs.
After charge with phone off for 1 hr
Then charge again with phone for 1hr on (not sure on this step).
That's the HTC method they claim worked a whole lot for them....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
That's the way to calibrate it...
The post above yours IS from the OP. That said, he may not have been talking about the official HTC method. Either way, I have tried every method on the forum and all work... for a couple of days. I havent seem one yet that will keep the battery calibrated for a substantial amount of time.
the reason the unplug plug in unplug plug in method doesnt work all the time is basically you are over charging your battery. I dont recommend it personally. I would follow the HTC method. takes longer but less dmg to the life of your battery. I ussually do it about once a month and it holds pretty true.
My solution is to charge the batteries in an external charger. Every morning I out in a afresh battery and its great. Its only the phone that can lose the first 10%.
I don't charge the phone directly anymore.
Sent from HTC Evo.
I just did the "official" HTC method. Well see how it goes....
Or, you could see that the phone has a serious bug and does not trickle charge after it hits 100% and does not start recharging until the phone drops below 90%. So, when you take it off the charger in the morning it will have somewhere between a 90% an 100% charge. This is why, when you unplug it, your phone quickly drops to around 90% and the behaves normally.
You can easily fix this by unplugging your phone for several minutes (5-10) and then plugging it back in to get it back to full charge. You will notice that your battery % doesn't drop nearly as fast and it lasts several hours longer. Or, as was said above, you can charge your battery in an external charger (these don't have HTC's bug).
I get 6-7 hours of solid use (screen on, surfing the web, listening to music, watching videos, texting, emailing, and and making calls). Oh, and I use 4G often and still get 4-5 hours.
Anyhow, that's much simpler than all those steps IMO.

Battery Pro-Tip

Just a little something lots of people have probably noticed with the vibrant battery that I ran into as well.
When you are done charging the phone and unplug it, sometimes it immediately drops down to 97-98%
Yesterday, each time the phone said it was fully charged, I just unplugged and then replugged the battery. And It would charge for another 10-15 minutes.
I was able to do this 4 or 5 times, each time it took a little less time. But once I got it to a 'true' 100%, i reconditioned the battery, and I feel like I am doing a lot better on power than I was before.
Maybe the whole thing is in my head, maybe theres 20 threads about this already, but here it is again. Hope it helps someone.
Nope, that's real. You're doing a type of bump charge, and it does help your battery at the top end. Normally I stop when my batt hits 4250mah.
Thanks for the advice.
Have any of you guys ever experienced something like this?
Last night I got my phone down to 2-3% before recharging. However, it was feeling a little sluggish so I decided to reboot (with the charger still plugged in). After I rebooted it, it reported the battery at 27% charging. Note: This was literally 5 minutes after I started charging my phone...
I think I'm going to reboot my phone first before I plug it in..
anthonys2r said:
Have any of you guys ever experienced something like this?
Last night I got my phone down to 2-3% before recharging. However, it was feeling a little sluggish so I decided to reboot (with the charger still plugged in). After I rebooted it, it reported the battery at 27% charging. Note: This was literally 5 minutes after I started charging my phone...
I think I'm going to reboot my phone first before I plug it in..
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Try recalibrating your battery.
If you have clockworkmod installed follow these steps
1. Charge phone completely, leave plugged into power
2. Boot into recovery
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Remove power cable
6. Drain that sucker all the way
7. Recharge fully
8. Rejoice!"
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Battery is fully charged but os reporting low?

Ive had a good look but i cannot find anything on this particular behaviour. Please could anyone help, its driving me round the bend now!
The battery will not charge past about 15 to 20%, no matter what, or how long I charge it (used original charger, plus another couple rated at least 2A, no difference). Ive had the back off and measured with a multimeter directly across the battery at this point, which reads around 4.2v, which is fine, thats what a fully charged cell should be. However, in this fully charged state, with a number of battery apps that read voltage from the os, it reports only 3.7v. Similarly, when the unit reports around 3.5v, consequently turning off, the battery is actually still at 4v!
I just dont get it, i cant seem to get it to correct itself, ive tried everything. Does anyone have any other ideas? Cant be the battery, its reaching full charge just fine, and is not nearly becoming discharged.
This is strange, have a look at this battery history screenshot, after staying for hours on 20 to 30% it jumps straight to 2%, while still on charge. And also once its shut down, i turn it straight back on again and its miraculously got 20 odd percent back in it. As you can see it keeps doing it. Anyone?
Someone recommended me this app against slow charging problems in another thread on xda. However I haven't had time to try it out yet.
Years ago my Moto Defy+ only charged to 80% because I had flashed the wrong firmware. The correct one restored the normal behaviour. So, it's just an idea, but you could try to flash a factory image, to make sure it's not a software issue.

Are you facing the "Dash Full Charge" issue?

Ok....
I think it's not new that we have a problem here.
Some of the people who got OnePlus 5,
Facing an issue when charging that it charges up to 80%-90% with the Dash Charger.
And then simply stops, and to charge to 100% we use regular charger (Not Dash Charger)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/oos-4-5-8-dash-charger-t3652711
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/never-fully-charged.599409/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/charging.600540/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/battery-problem.601016/
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And there are more evidence of the issue.
We need to deliver the massage to OnePlus.
So please tell me, your facing the issue too?
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The power input in lowered after the phone has charged to 70%+, which results in slower charging speed.
It's done to preserve the battery and to allow more charging cycles in the long run.
So, it's not a bug. It's a feature.
As @sufoalmighty said, it's not a bug, it's a safety feature to keep the battery healthy.
Ok look.... it just stops and the phone says not charging.. i don't really know why
Hi Guys,
It's a real issue and I'm experiencing it. Plus, there are few threads about this on Oneplus forum and Reddit:
here: https://forums.oneplus.net/search/13523112/?q=dash+charging&o=date&c[title_only]=1&c[node]=265
and here: https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6r0403/oneplus_5_dash_charge_stop_at_83/
I even had an error message on the phone when trying to charge it more than 85% when off... Everytime I briefly pushed on the power button to see if it was charging properly it said :
"Device temperature is too low. Can not charge"
Talked to Oneplus support twice, they escalated my ticket. But I have no news from them for 3 days now... I think the best could be having them akcnowledge there is an issue, even if it's gonna be painful for them for some obvious marketing reasons...
What do you think ?
If your phone actually entirely stops charging, it is a bug, probably a hardware problem with your charger, as a person on the linked Reddit thread said. Try a different DASH Charger first. If it did start after the update, you could always flash back and test it against tests of the new one and send them that information. Saying that it stops DASH charging isn't very clear and contains no information OnePlus can work with. Download Ampere and check it with the cable plugged in after 80% to see what value is showing, or use the *#808# menu to test the same. Post results, including a picture clearly showing the screen and the fact that it is plugged in [take it with another device].
Experiencing the same issue as @the_david. My OP5 is 5 days old, received it with stock firmware (4.5.3 I think, not sure) everything was fine. Updated to 4.5.8, rooted, installed magisk etc... Wanted to charge it after some days, but with the dash charger it stops completely at 75%. Turning of the phone shows battery temp to low (was at 33°C).
A non-dash charger will charge to 100%. Cache & Dalvik reset had no effect.
Edit:
I let the phone discharge to 0% and tried to charge it with the dash charger. I saw the dash charging symbol in the "bootloader" & blue LED, however it stayed stuck at 0%. With another charger I was able to load it to 2%, afterwards used the dash charger to get it up to 80%.
Got a replacement charger and the issue was gone
So, I got a new Dash charger and... It fixed the issue. It seems there are some problem with some dash charger series, especially if you bought your OP5 to a Chinese reseller...
Everything works fine now!
The problem in my case is the rom installed... Tried with RR and dash is ok up to full charge, but on stock oos up to 90% is dash and from there normal charge
No problems here. Dash charge till 80-90 percent and than charging values going slower and slower and slower up to 100 percent. So i guess i'm fine.
What i "do" like to mention is: When device is fully charged at 100 percent, within 10 minutes it drops very fast to 87 percent! than the battery seems to stabilizes itself. With each dropping percentage the battery is more and more going slower at discharging..
I don't know if that's normal behaviour, because i'm not familiar with OP5.. I came from Samsung.
Maybe somebody can explain this? or am i seeing it wrong?
It's strange.. i've a linear discharge.. have you tried a battery fix? Discharge all then charge until 100% from switched off phone.. Don't do this everytime because will damage battery... Or maybe it's just android that after sometime the battery percentage split to 2% at time... 100-98-96 etc..
Did that in the past with replacable batteries, also use battery calibration app (still a myth, but whatever). I never discharged this Device further than 10 percent (like you kinda mentioned it can damage the battery) and since it's hard to replace the battery i wont take the risk. Maybe my battery didnt even get the change to settle because of the many Roms and Kernels i Flashed over and over again, since i got my device for about 10 days now haha. I guess i need to give my battery more time to settle and don't stress it?
I was in your doubt too, since i've flashed a looooot of rom in about 2 days lol and i stressed really too much my phone.. But as i said up, i've noticed that the battery percentage (what we see in the statusbar and not the reality charge) depends a lot on which rom you're using... In this 2 days i've also charged my phone a lot of time, via dash charge or via pc (while copying files from computer to phone) and it seemed damaged in RR but when i reflashed back to freedom it has returned normally and today i have a very long life battery (charged this morning at 9:30 and now i still have 81%)... So in the end i think your battery is not damaged but have you tried a factory reset? PS: i've never discharged it under 20% PPS: and sure, for answering your question, i think that less stress (few charge)= more battery life so now i wait tomorrow to try another rom but today is the "My oneplus 5 rest day" lol

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