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Is the N1 really plagued with so many problems, or are some people nit-picking and creating issues which aren't there? Forums are all filled up with these "issues" threads. Issue this, issue that. I would like to cancel them out with a POSITIVE thread.
I've had 2 N1's - the Tmobile and ATT versions.
- NO dust under the screen issues
- NO 3g issue for ATT (I didn't have 3g Tmobile)
- NO purple tinting on ATT
- NO battery life issues - mine lasts 30 hours with moderate use. CM5053. Tmobile version lasted just as long
- NO MMS issues
- NO build quality issues - it's built like a tank.
- NO regrets
I am dusting iphones left and right with speed and connection quality. Just yesterday in a movie theater my friend's 3gs had data issues while my N1 worked perfectly. I turned on my wifi tethering so that he could finish downloading his apps and checking his messages through my N1.
Am I just lucky or in the minority? Chime in if you also have no problems and are tired of seeing all these "issue" threads creating a negative stigma toward the N1. It's the best smartphone experience I've ever had. No problems here!
I'm also in the same boat as you, I have has no issues whatsoever.. I'm pretty happy with Nexus!
Same here... tMo N1 with no problems what-so-ever... no issue, no regrets... the best phone I've had... and with all the superb mods and ROMs out here, it's kicks ass anytime!!!
LOL N1 had to share internets the iPhone
Keep in mind people only post when they have problems. The majority of us don't have any problems.
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Got a chuckle out of that one myself.
about the perfect phone
I also have not had any problems
my battery is perfect
my screen is perfect
my 3g is perfect
This phone Rocks
i love it...
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- NO battery life issues - mine lasts 30 hours with moderate use. CM5053. Tmobile version lasted just as long
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please describe what you consider moderate usage? theres no way my n1 goes 30 hours with what i consider moderate
It's too early to tell for me on some of the issues, but no 3g problems no battery. issues so far. I love this thing.
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Yes, I agree. I think too many people are picky, or don't know how to maintain there widgets or automatically updating widgets correctly causing battery drains or touching the screen with the hand their holding it with and then trying to scroll with the other. I Think the 3G Issue is relevant to the coverag area their in....
I do think the dust issue is real on some, (not mine) and the antenna could have been placed better...
That said, I have no issues either.... I love my nexus one so much I actually have been neglecting my wife and need to put this thing down.. this is after 3 months almost.
There's a lot of haters on this phone, hate all ya want when we get froyo first and yall gotta wait for htc and then ya provider to push out updates.
i think you only hear from users with problems on forums. happy users hav no reason to post.
i had the dust issue on my first tmobile nexus but got it replaced
so far so good. this phone is amazing.
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please describe what you consider moderate usage? theres no way my n1 goes 30 hours with what i consider moderate
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I should have said 30 hours with tweaking. I have:
- CM5053
- pershoot ocuv
- juice defender app
- force edge at work (since I don't get 3g in the office. Preventing the radio from constantly jumping/searching saves a lot of battery)
During a normal day:
- unplug at 1am
- wake up at 7am with 93%, turn on juice defender
- browse web for 1/2 hour before i actually get up
- browse web/play games for 45 minute commute
- force edge at work, light web browsing/email until 6pm (around 50-60% remaining by late afternoon)
- browse web/play games for 1 hr commute back home
- turn off juice defender at home, back on wifi
- light playing around here and there.
- by 10pm or so, i still have 30% remaining or more before I recharge.
- texts/gchat/check twitter throughout the day.
- on "light" use (barely touching phone throughout the day), i reached 27 hours and still had 20% remaining. I had to force the remaining 20% to drain with nonstop Homerun Battle 3d because I was recalibrating my battery at the time and needed to go to sleep.
- When my phone is idle on wifi or edge, I lose less than 2% per hour. On 3G, less than 3%. It's hard to be exact, but my juice plotter graph is very flat during idle.
- I think it's very much ROM/tweak based. I jumped from CM to Modaco's Desire Alpha 7 ROM way back before, and my battery life dropped about 35% compared to CM at the time and I could not make it back home from work without the phone almost dying. I don't remember what it was like on stock ROM, haven't been there in a while.
- Right now, I never worry about charging for the entire day because I know I'll always make it back home with extra battery remaining, unless it's a Friday and I stay out late at night.
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No issues here either. I agree you only hear from people with problems. No one is going to start a thread to report that their phone is working as it should.
People also have a lot of issues on iPhone forums. Just looking at MacRumors it looks like 90% are problems and 10% are "how do I...?" The problems cover the whole spectrum. Stuck at boot logo, data not working, sync problems, and even an "An Apple Genius f**ked up my iPhone..."
Mine is ideal too -- USB tethered it to PCs, Macs and Linux boxes all over NAB tradeshow with my T-Mobile version, got >200KB/sec while poor iphones couldn't even tether at all. Excellent battery life, fast, sexy, responsive, totally rock solid and plenty of space for USB files on my SD card... hard to see how an iphone could beat it.
My N1 with AVS kernel by IntersectRaven just lasted about 27hours yesterday So its possible. Moderate use, Browser, Games: World War, Pocket mobile, iMobster, Armageddon Squadron and a little bit of music player used.
No problems with my N1 here too, except the 3g isnt that great when im in certain areas since I got T-Mobile, but when I get good connection the N1 flies.
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please describe what you consider moderate usage? theres no way my n1 goes 30 hours with what i consider moderate
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Let us know when you start encountering the touchscreen issues that 90% or more of N1 users are facing.
Only issue with mine is build quality. the aluminum frame where engraving could be done isnt flush with the battery and antenna covers. imo not a big deal but it doesnt fit perfectly in the desk dock
I've had my N1 since Jan 16 never had touch screen issues.
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Let us know when you start encountering the touchscreen issues that 90% or more of N1 users are facing.
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no issues for me either. I have to wonder where all the issues come from too. like I'll read someone complain that they can't type well with the keyboard and use that to bash the phone, yet I don't have any issues with it.
of course I get the occasional touch screen glitch. but a quick 1 second turn off the screen resets it.
and the battery life is short, but the iPhone forums show the same complaints so it seems to me to be inherent of large screened phones.
I love this phone!
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I came from an iphone and the nexus one has been amazing. Just having the "back" button functionality alone is worth the price of admission. I always dreaded clicking on URLs in apps on the iphone as it usually meant losing what I had going on in that app. Not anymore! And I loving the fact that I can personalize almost every part of the phone.
That being said, I have a very hard time believing that anyone is satisfied with the reception of this phone. I have never owned a phone before that dropped calls because I moved my hand to the wrong spot. It's embarrassing.
So I finally got rid of my iPhone 3G (jailbroken on T-Mobile), and got an HD2 instead. I've always liked Windows Mobile phones (and had most iterations), and since now there is finally some capacitative goodness on WM, I jumped on the opportunity.
And I'm regretting it already.
I'm hoping that somebody here has some suggestion that my two days of thread searching, and experimenting didn't cover.
The problem is, yay, .... the damn battery.
I left it on the charger from totally empty to completely full at 2AM. At 8AM, it was down to 85%. Ten minutes of reading e-mails, 74%. The thing is really not usable in this state.
Here are all the things I checked already:
It runs the latest T-Mobile ROM and radio (the one that just came out a few days ago).
Latest version of .NET (3.5.9).
No push e-mail, e-mail checking once per hour, weather checking once per hour.
Strong 3G coverage area, still tried out WMLongLife anyway (with no difference).
Did several cycles of full discharge, recharge.
Always check task manager, not leaving programs running.
Nothing else is set to go online - Live is disabled.
Screen brightness is set at 30%.
All charges done via wall charger.
I read every post I could find, especially fun the ones where people get 4 days of standby, and 6+ hours of heavy use. Short of loading the ARTEMIS ROM, I exhausted all options I could find. And really, it seems like people get decent performance from the stock ROM, so I'd like to stick with that for the moment.
What am I missing?
So frustrating. I can see how this sort of thing would make the average "just user" go run for the Android or Apple hills. No wonder we get stuck with restrictive babysitting technology, when others can't get their **** together. Spend $450 on a phone that can't make it through a half day of reasonable use? Argh!!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
same here
i have all the same problems my batt just sucks i figure i have to just by a new one
hey man, i was like you at first too. all my mates had iphones (i dislike apple in general) i didnt want one. At the time o2 (uk) didnt stock android phones and i had a sony x1 previously. So, i got the hd2 and...like you said was disapointed.
Changed the rom to a custom one here at xda (hdowners btw) which lasts 1.5 days (heavy usage)...never seems to get 2 full days when i use it alot.
installed a few different browsers (opera 9.7 and 10)
installed morphgear (with some amazing landscape skins)
fpsece (i found time crisis to be the only actual playable game)
coreplayer
and found it a awesome phone...changed my views on it. Try some custom roms and see what you think...usually you will go mad installing themes, skins, apps...just go wild and keep the ones you really like/work in a seperate folder. Then reflash and install the best only...thats how i done it and i now love this phone
good luck, im sure the rest of the forum will give you some advice.
wayandrs: The main thing that will help is by upgrading the ROM even if it is to stock 1.66 (the latest UK one available) then you notice a large difference and even more so with some of the cooked ones. Other things to note are the WiFi, make sure it doesn't be left on (and only turn it on if you need it) it proper drains the battery. Without knowing your habbits with your phone it is very hard to come up with decent suggestions that hasn't already been posted elsewhere.
I can safely say I get 2-3 days use out of my device but then I don't use it all that much (anymore), don't forget as it is a new toy for you, you will keep playing with it seeing what it can do, this will soon die down (as it always does) then it will be better.
there must be something wrong with your device or battery.
mine lasts for about 3-4 days while middle use. i think for such a powerful and huge device, this is more than respectable.
heavy use...mh...i would say it lasts minimal 2 days, sometimes more.
did you write a complain to t-mobile?
DN41
The battery will improve after a week or so .
Note : charging your battery the first time for only 6hours isn't much , the first time that i charged my battery i left it charging for 24 hours.
Updating to the latest ROM and Radio helps .
I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
First step: Flash a decent ROM with most of the performance/battery tricks in there already. Many of these ROMs are constructed from the best (often most battery efficient) parts of multiple ROMS.
Touch-X, Energy, Artemis, CleanEx, etc. All are excellent (though I favour Touch-X myself for a great utility/preformance/battery balance).
Second step: Flash a good Radio that works well in your area but also works well with the ROM/has decent battery life. You'll need to research this for your chosen ROM.
I use the Korean radio in UK. Good quality/signal/battery life.
Run it for a few days, charging to full and emptying the battery before recharging to full again. Do this for 3/4 days at least.
Those changes alone got me upto 2.5 days standby and 4 hours usage (thats movie playing for 4 hours with 100% backlight in a hotel room). Good for a smartphone and longer than my friends IPhones.
Other small programs like WMLongLife, adjusting down the backlight automatically, added another .5 days to standby (though not much to active use life).
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I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
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Yes, sorry I fell back on the usual retoric.
I do wonder though if when someone buys a new 'Toy' that they dont hammer it to start with for the 'joy' and never think of the consequences.
I like you, no matter which phone I own, being a businessman and needing maximum performance have a charger at my bedside (the phone is my alarm) and also connect it to the car charger when driving.
I wonder if many of the people that move up from a basic Nokia phone (or similar that can last a week) realise what is involved in powering all the functions they require?
Please don't quote iPhone as it dunt do half!
try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
I use the stock rom 1.66 from the beginning and check my mail automatically every 30 minutes. Now and then I check some websites and download cabs and use HSDPA/3G and WIFI if available. My battery is 100% in the morning and 70 percent in the evening. Not bad at all. The first 12 times I fully charched the battery during the night.
I use Bandswitch, which automatically disables my connection within 30 seconds. This is the most important and useful tip! You don't need a custom ROM to solve the battery drain issue.
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+1 - Lovely ROM
it looks like you have not a windows phone before
Thanks.
Thanks for the ROM suggestions. I'll try a few more days of deep cycling the battery to see if that helps - if not, I guess I'll try a custom ROM.
And yea, to those 'get a life' and 'don't complain about Windows phones' posts, whatever. I've owned Windows Mobile phones since they first came out, and it's just frustrating that the out-of-the box usability hasn't gotten any better to this day. Looks at the cool people that actually manage some constructive feedback - they are who make XDA forums great. Thanks guys!
A new 1200 battery is 15 pounds (the official from HTC) as a backup. I personaly have bought the extended battery 2400 and it is great. The default battery doesn't last the full day for me because I use it constinuosly as mp3 player , brownsing and video player. I mean, you have options.
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I'll be trying the Elegancia ROM.
That is, once I find a ROM with 2.8 SPL that works on my 1024 version of the H2, to reflash mine so I can get HSPL to work to flash.
I've always really liked Windows Mobile for its flexibility and massive base of developers ... on the flip side, I've been screwing around with this thing for several days now, trying to get a phone that can last through a day. Ahhh, the bittersweet experience that is WM.
I get at most 2 days combined cycle out of my stanard battery and i've had my phone for about 10 days. It came with the stock 1.66 rom but i've run through the tips and tweaks threads so the phone ui is faster and a bit more usable. One of those is a replacement task manager that disables smart minimize in favour of actually closing programs. I've also set the weather software to update every 3 hours because tbh you don't need it to be any more often than that. I do use the wifi alot but i do turn it off when i'm not using the phone. i have also noticed with my phone is if the wifi is connected to an access point for more than 5 minutes it will automatically disable the 3G connection and turn it back on when the wifi is disabled.
for the first couple of days i was completely discharging the battery and then charging it for about 12 hours. this seems to have been the most beneficial. i also will not put it on charge unless it really needs it.
hi, from experience, 3G medium usuage.. 4/5 a day.
If you disconect the 3G connection when not using, it will help.
And of course if you go on GSM instead, one day is not difficult..
battery killer :
1) constant 3G activity
2) Watching video. Worst, video on 3G !
3) games, especially the 3Ds ones or high on processing like the Tower simulation game.
4) bright screen
5) bluetooth
From my experience, from a fresh flash, my battery improves as I get to use it longer and longer.
take a look at your data sync like weather and stock and also check the social networking sync.
Been reading on here about people moaning about there HD2's and i got to say when i first had it i had the 1.48 rom and had issue's...
But a bit of reading mostly on this forum and a custom rom later and my HD2 has been perfect...
I've had no issue's really, occasional glitches but nothing other than that..
Well happy and for what i do its perfect there really is nothing else i would rather have...
So my point is have i just been really lucky and had a good HD2 are there bad ones out there ?
Or are people creating there own issue's by tinkering too much or in some cases too little, pretty much i've just put a rom on and apps that i like i use my HD2 a lot obviously for talking, texting and web browsing and i can't remember the last time i had to reset the device, last night i checked the battery after a full day use 60%, seems pretty good to me...
So am i just lucky ?
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have i just been really lucky and had a good HD2 are there bad ones out there ?
Or are people creating there own issue's by tinkering too much or in some cases too little,
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yes yes and yes.
i have been really happy with my HD2 as well. did the official vodaphone rom upgrade which was really easy. have a few apps on it. mainly use if for co-pilot, memory map, e books, music and movies. oh and as a phone as well lol.
cant recall any major probs at all. occasionally have a situation where the battery drains quite quickly, but i think that is when the phone has to range for a signal when reception is bad. its not a regular thing though and generally get a couple of days before a charge is needed. i was lucky to get a days use out of my i900.
i agree that too much playing with the system may result in poor performance in some areas. its a bit like playing with the chip in ya car, go for better performance and watch the gas milage go down.
my only gripe is the lack of flash in opera which is not to do with the phone really but to do with the browser itself.
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It seems to me that you got the best Radioversion for your phone.
Everybody that owns a HD2 are lucky
You say that your battery stays at 60% after a whole day of usage, is that with heavy usage?
Somketimes I'm lucky, and yet sometimes phantom issues just turn up...
I have been a happy flasher on different phones for two/three years, so I know what I'm doing. With the HD2, I purposely stuck on Stock for as long as possible (three months), more of an experiment than anything, and Stock wasn't bad, but the Texting issues were too much in the end.
My first two ROMs were not 'big name' ROMs, and tbh they were flawed - odd graphics missing in manilla, very slow at times, loads of quirks and irritations. But i chose to try them as i knew I'd end up on a well-developed ROM and be unwilling to flash again for a few months.
I just tried MaxSense but it's too buggy for now, although I expected that.
I'm reasonably happy with Energy's CHT ROM this past week, but even now I've had the occasional phone turning off, the alarm doesn't sound if my phone's on mute, but if I want it on loud I have to turn off my email alerts during the night, texting is still a b*tch (I'm tempted to get a dump-phone just for a T9 keyboard), and as ever I still feel like my phone is work in progress.
*All those flaws I've pointed above I'm sure I can fix by going through some threads, but the point remains I just want a decent experience and enjoy using my phone, not spend my life looking for solutions. I love my HD2 but at the end of the day it's a phone ffs!
Anyway, there's my over-long take on it!
You say that your battery stays at 60% after a whole day of usage, is that with heavy usage?
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I would say average usage, quite a few calls and texts i organise stuff so send group texts 25 at a time, and about 3 hours browsing on the net via wifi in the evening...
If i've hardly used the phone its closer to 75% at the end of the day although when i'm playing with it as in putting apps etc on that might require a restart the battery life drops a lot...
I always have the wifi off and bluetooth and 3g...
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I would say average usage, quite a few calls and texts i organise stuff so send group texts 25 at a time, and about 3 hours browsing on the net via wifi in the evening...
If i've hardly used the phone its closer to 75% at the end of the day although when i'm playing with it as in putting apps etc on that might require a restart the battery life drops a lot...
I always have the wifi off and bluetooth and 3g...
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Ok. Well I got wifi on all day, same with bluetooth, 3g and Data conection. And Im quite a heavy user.I use the browser a few times a day I send at least 100 text-messages a day and Im always logged in to Facebook and Twitter to stay up to date. Although my battery is between 20-10% when i go to bed, and Im more than happy with that
Just thought I would share my thoughts to those who may be interested.
I cannot recomment WP7 as it currently stands my issues with it are as follows:
Power managements is shockingly bad - I remember the days of WM6+ when an application you had left open would sap the life out of the battery in an hour or two - well it seems MS have learnt nothing from this and it still happens. On two occasions (I have only had the phone for 4 days) I have been playing a game (Bejewelled last time), switched off the phone and left it to find a little later it was completely dead - the last time it was on charge through a laptop usb port at the time.
Game loading times - it's a mobile device - I use it for filling a few spare moments and the last thing I want to do is to waste half of those spare moments watching a loading screen. The Omnia 7 is supposed to be faster than most of the HTC devices with their built in SD cards. I ran a little comparison with the iPhone 4. Bejewelled (a very simple game) - loading time on Omnia 7 - 23 seconds, loading time for Bejewelled 2 on iPhone 4 - 4 seconds (loading time from the multitasking tab - instant).
Resuming games - most games I have tried have poor resume ability - halfway through a game and receive a phone call - you have to start again - really annoying and not what I have come to expect - I was impressed when PSP achieved it back in 2005 but to not have it in 2010 is a big mistake.
I have other issues with battery charging - the Omnia 7 needs to be on charge more than it is in use at the moment - iPhone 4 - charge it through your USB port for an hour and it is 50-75% charged - do the same with the Omnia and you get about 25%.
Obviously it is early days for WP7 - but MS are not new to this game - I would have thought they would have learnt more from Google and Apple.
I currently would not recommend WP7 to any of my friends and I have less than 1 day left to decide whether to return my Omnia and exchange it for a Desire HD.
I swapped from a Galaxy to Omnia and on build quality and I much prefer Omnia to Galaxy. I prefer the non recessed screen and the vibrate in windows keys.
Sure WP7 is missing a lot of features that frankly should of been there from day 1 but I knew that comming into this device.
I like the live tiles compared to Galaxy homescreens / Iphone app look. Not to worried about apps at this stage as I am more of a business user so office and outlook are gold for me in this phone.
The rest I am happy to work with over time
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Just thought I would share my thoughts to those who may be interested.
I cannot recomment WP7 as it currently stands my issues with it are as follows:
Power managements is shockingly bad - I remember the days of WM6+ when an application you had left open would sap the life out of the battery in an hour or two - well it seems MS have learnt nothing from this and it still happens. On two occasions (I have only had the phone for 4 days) I have been playing a game (Bejewelled last time), switched off the phone and left it to find a little later it was completely dead - the last time it was on charge through a laptop usb port at the time.
Game loading times - it's a mobile device - I use it for filling a few spare moments and the last thing I want to do is to waste half of those spare moments watching a loading screen. The Omnia 7 is supposed to be faster than most of the HTC devices with their built in SD cards. I ran a little comparison with the iPhone 4. Bejewelled (a very simple game) - loading time on Omnia 7 - 23 seconds, loading time for Bejewelled 2 on iPhone 4 - 4 seconds (loading time from the multitasking tab - instant).
Resuming games - most games I have tried have poor resume ability - halfway through a game and receive a phone call - you have to start again - really annoying and not what I have come to expect - I was impressed when PSP achieved it back in 2005 but to not have it in 2010 is a big mistake.
I have other issues with battery charging - the Omnia 7 needs to be on charge more than it is in use at the moment - iPhone 4 - charge it through your USB port for an hour and it is 50-75% charged - do the same with the Omnia and you get about 25%.
Obviously it is early days for WP7 - but MS are not new to this game - I would have thought they would have learnt more from Google and Apple.
I currently would not recommend WP7 to any of my friends and I have less than 1 day left to decide whether to return my Omnia and exchange it for a Desire HD.
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I just think that if you are going to say just bad things, you should at least provide some more info:
1. WP7 is v1 and very new! iOS is version 4 and exists now for almost 4 years?
2. The same when developing apps (loading times, power management, resuming games - yes WP7 supports app freezing, but developers have to integrate it on the apps, etc...). Can you really say that WP7 is slow? Slower that iPhone 4? No. But if the Bejeweled app is slower of course WP7 is the one to blame... Did you think that most developers just ported the games between platforms?
3. Not recommending WP7 because of this should be as much important to ppl who think like you... But have you thought about all the other ppl? WP7 can be used from all genders and ages from 4 to 70 and more, without the need to take a course to learn to use it... Can you really say the same about all the other mobiles OSes? No... WP7 is THAT simple
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3. Not recommending WP7 because of this should be as much important to ppl who think like you... But have you thought about all the other ppl? WP7 can be used from all genders and ages from 4 to 70 and more, without the need to take a course to learn to use it... Can you really say the same about all the other mobiles OSes? No... WP7 is THAT simple
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To be honest, I've been recommending to my friends to stay away from WP7 for the moment.
unfortunately it doesn't have the flexibility of android nor the variety of apps of iOS
what it does have is eye candy and i think for most people looking for smart phones, that effect will wear out quickly.
what i do believe is that microsoft will make large and quick improvements to bring it up to level with the other OS's
I must agree with the original poster's comments on power management - I'm genuinely shocked by how much this thing eats battery. A half-hour of playing a game on the train and my battery goes from almost fully charged (after a night of being plugged into my desktop) to losing at least a quarter of juice.
Last night, I played a bit of Bejeweled in bed, and when I was done, I lazily returned to the Start screen and left the phone on my bedside table rather than plug it in. The phone was fully charged before I started playing Bejeweled; I don't know how much charge was left exactly when I finished playing (again, a half-hour or so of gameplay), but when I woke up seven hours later, the battery indicator was almost completely empty.
Now, I love a lot about this phone, and I want to be totally happy and recommend it to everyone I know - but as things stand, the battery life and power consumption is absolutely terrible unless you're doing nothing but leaving the phone idle all day long.
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Now, I love a lot about this phone, and I want to be totally happy and recommend it to everyone I know - but as things stand, the battery life and power consumption is absolutely terrible unless you're doing nothing but leaving the phone idle all day long.
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Agreed. The battery life is worse than on my 2 year old Xperia, even when it's not doing anything.
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I just think that if you are going to say just bad things, you should at least provide some more info:
1. WP7 is v1 and very new! iOS is version 4 and exists now for almost 4 years?
2. The same when developing apps (loading times, power management, resuming games - yes WP7 supports app freezing, but developers have to integrate it on the apps, etc...). Can you really say that WP7 is slow? Slower that iPhone 4? No. But if the Bejeweled app is slower of course WP7 is the one to blame... Did you think that most developers just ported the games between platforms?
3. Not recommending WP7 because of this should be as much important to ppl who think like you... But have you thought about all the other ppl? WP7 can be used from all genders and ages from 4 to 70 and more, without the need to take a course to learn to use it... Can you really say the same about all the other mobiles OSes? No... WP7 is THAT simple
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Thanks for your comments - I get the impresion that I offended you personally from your response - I just wanted to provide some thoughts - I can't believe anyone takes this as gospel.
To respond -
1. I think my comment 'it is early days' covered this - what I find amazing is that Microsoft are not new to developing for mobile devices and allowing a 'rogue' app - it doesn't even need to be particularly rogue - to consume all the battery charge while the phone is in a standby state is just schoolboy. Same happens with MW 6.0, 6.5 etc - have they learnt nothing. It is unforgivable as people rely on their phones and should you see you have a half full battery you should be confident that you have at least say 4-6 hours remaining - I use my phone to wake me up for work frequently - if I cannot rely on my phone it is no use to me.
2. Do you really think that app developers simply sloppily porting games between platforms is acceptable? MS have to approve these apps/games before they are available to us mere mortals - they have a huge vested interest in the OS working so they shouldn't allow this laziness to ruin the OS experience.
3. Battery life and reliabilty are huge issues. This OS is going directly up against iOS and it falls way short. I have otehr issues - my phone seems to lose 3G internet access in certain apps - when it happens I test it by opening a web page - that works but my e-mail cannot sync or Xbox Live cannot connect or whatever - I am living in the centre of Milan so 3G availability is not a problem. This is a major problem when they are pushing their cloud services.
Personally i have found the battery life superior to WM6.1
The long loading times some have commented on I have not even noticed. Certainly not 20 seconds plus.
Just for example now i tried...
Unite loaded in 5 seconds.
Halo waypoint in 5 seconds.
Some 3rd party air hockey game loaded in 3 seconds.
Pretty quick to me.
I have found WP7 pretty good so far especially since its V1.0 and have been recomending it to family and friends.
Some things are annoying. One example would be the lack of file system access but i knew about these issues coming into WP7 and as such i don't understand how people can complain that they have bought a handset and are frustrated by it.
I've only had the Omnia 7 for 3 days but I don't find the battery that bad at all.
I have switched EVERYTHING on that saps the battery from day 1 - gps, skydrive uploading, myphone polling, wifi, bluetooth, syncing with zune over wifi, etc.
I am a heavy internet user and of course as it's a new toy have been downloading all the games and playing them too and I don't see see the battery being sapped in an hour or two at all. The battery is low after about 6 hours non-stop game playing and browsing which Is excessive power usage.
The only downside for me Is pressing the search button within Internet Explorer and getting the damn T-Mobile page with the google search. I wish there was a way to switch it back to Bing as I prefer it to google.
Very impressed otherwise, especially how quick the browser is and skydrive with my GB's of photos.
If you are loosing 3G reception then that could be the source of your battery drain as It's not locking on and wasting power.
P.S. In another post you said you had sent the phone back and were swapping It for the Desire?????
I can pretty much co-sign what root beer said.
Coming from a bunch of wm phones and lately iphone 3gs I say the battery is better then the one in the iphone. I have been using the phone a lot with everything turned on and it almost lasted for 2 days.
Really like wp7 and the phone except for the stupid t-mobile homepage in IE and the startup picture.
Switch Bluetooth and WiFi off when they are not needed, also turn the screen brightness to Low, it's actually perfectly usable and there isn't much difference to be honest! You'll find the battery is fine after that. With normal phone, gaming and 3G usage, I charge my Omnia every 2 days.
Hi all!
I am glad I found this place, I thought I was the only one using the Note, almost everybody I know is using the fruity phone, I personally used that for a year too but sold it and bought a note and never looked back. The massive giant screen is what attracted me initially, and now looking at any other phones, I dont think I can ever use something smaller than 5.3. Everything is great, android is so flexible compared to what I had previously, so far of the near 1 month on note, I loved it - everything have been great, but I realized recently it is acting up a little, on the battery.
Sorry to be asking questions on my first post here, but it seems my note contracted some battery drain illness (I am not sure if it is an application that caused this, but I have uninstalled those apps I installed lately and before the battery problem):
My tests earlier:
Playing Asphalt 6 - 17% gone in 30 minutes
So I tried Fpse (the playstation emulator), played a game, and it took 10% in 15 minutes, which is pretty scary
And I tried Asphalt 6 again, this time it was insane, took 23% in 29 minutes
Can anyone tell me if my note is normal or is it really ill? I hope it is curable.
Any advices will be much appreciated. Thanks!
Check the Battery status in System Settings. How is Asphalt and Fpse drain percentage reported as ? Check what exactly drains your battery.
Anyway, it shouldn't go almost 25% for 30 minutes of gameplay. I get 3-4, sometimes more hours of gameplay here using ICS and Playing Puzzle Quest 2 or Order and Chaos.
Keep in mind too, that it takes 3 - 5 charge/drain cycles for your battery to star draining at a steady rate. Since it's such a huge battery, it could take up to a week for it to settle into a pattern
Sorry, what is ICS?
The battery pattern should have been set as I have used it/drained till 0% and re-charged for quite a few times now, should I be doing a system re-set:?
ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest version if the Android OS. It has not "officially" been released on our phone yet, but there are leaks and builds made from AOSP. Some people are running these builds on their phones. Officially we are still on GB = Gingerbread Android OS.
Ice Cream Sandwich..
I get around an 1 hour of ON SCREEN time per 25% battery.
a) please read the forum guidelines.. there is a Q&A section where you should post questions..this is not that section
b) ICS is the next version of android...Ice Cream Sandwich
c) If you mean power off and power on the phone, then by all means.. if you mean "restore to factory settings" then I suggest you need to read up on what that means before you do so.
d) This forum is full of information, and any question you have is MOST LIKELY to have been asked 100 times already.. so search long and often.
SPend som hours browsing the Note forums (there are 5)..you will learn a lot and alos answer questions you do not have yet ..welcome
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Sorry, what is ICS?
The battery pattern should have been set as I have used it/drained till 0% and re-charged for quite a few times now, should I be doing a system re-set:?
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Thanks for the advices guys!
I will have a try and see what comes up, but I dont think I will be trying out the ice cream sandwitches, as I am not very familar with these things