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I just sold a spare Fascinate that I had to one of the guys that runs http://www.mydroidworld.com/ He has a leaked copy of the official samsung gingerbread build for the fascinate. He needed a fascinate to test it on. He told me that he will test it tonight and post all his info on his site tomorrow. Keep an eye for it. If I get any more info I will post.
I believe this with every fiber of my being. I'm banking it all on this being real. Going for broke! (vegas odds)
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its for real, here is my craigslist ad that i met him with http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2444423584.html
Sweet! I have 30 large riding on this. Can't wait!
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its for real, here is my craigslist ad that i met him with http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2444423584.html
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pssh i would have bought it just to get ahold of that white battery door. i could use a nice change like that.
we will see what comes of this....i mean i could say there is a unicorn in my pocket when in reality its 32 cents in change.
hoping for the best tho
It was my girlfriends phone. She likes her iphone better so I tried to get what I could for this. He ended up paying 175, I wanted 200 originally.
Sounds like he was trying to get a better deal.
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Sounds like he was trying to get a better deal.
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is that p3droid? He said he was looking for a fascinate.. He was hoping to only pay 100. I volunteered to test but I guess he decided to buy a phone. I used his stuff on my droid x. Very smart dev. I hope this works out in our favor. TBH would be good to have supporting the fascinate.
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I just sold a spare Fascinate that I had to one of the guys that runs http://www.mydroidworld.com/ He has a leaked copy of the official samsung gingerbread build for the fascinate. He needed a fascinate to test it on. He told me that he will test it tonight and post all his info on his site tomorrow. Keep an eye for it. If I get any more info I will post.
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I don't mean to sound negative with this statement. But even if this does actually happen, I just have this strange inclination that this leak will have absolutely no benefit or bearing on the development of CM7 or GB MIUI or anything else that our devs are cooking up. Official froyo brought nothing as far as added functionality to the roms of that time and I just don't see a GB leak doing it either. Samsung's proprietary code SUCKS so bad that we can't hardly do anything with it. Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms. I would rather have AOSP froyo than GB TouchWiz. I just don't want us to set ourselves up for disappointment. Anything we get out of this leak will probably be a couple steps behind where we already are.
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I don't mean to sound negative with this statement. But even if this does actually happen, I just have this strange inclination that this leak will have absolutely no benefit or bearing on the development of CM7 or GB MIUI or anything else that our devs are cooking up. Official froyo brought nothing as far as added functionality to the roms of that time and I just don't see a GB leak doing it either. Samsung's proprietary code SUCKS so bad that we can't hardly do anything with it. Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms. I would rather have AOSP froyo than GB TouchWiz. I just don't want us to set ourselves up for disappointment. Anything we get out of this leak will probably be a couple steps behind where we already are.
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I don't dev, so I really have no clue, but wouldnt a gingerbread leak at least help get mms, sensors, and gps? and possibly lead to a more stable build?
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I don't dev, so I really have no clue, but wouldnt a gingerbread leak at least help get mms, sensors, and gps? and possibly lead to a more stable build?
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Not in terms of AOSP builds, no.
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Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying that because any official GB leak would be TouchWiz, it's worthless, which simply isn't true. A lot of us would be very happy with a Gingerbread KB or EF.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying because this is TouchWiz-based, it's worthless to everyone, which simply isn't true. A lot of people would be very happy if KB or EF were based on GB.
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Just my opinion. I hate touchwiz and after tasting CM7/MIUI and other AOSP goodness, it is pure suffering to go back to touchwiz. All I am saying is this doesn't excite me. We are trying to cut the cord of dependance from samsung/verizon for support by getting official support from Teamhacksung and Cyanogenmod and this leak probably won't help in the advancement of that. That is why I am not excited, but maybe and happily, I'll be proven wrong.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying that because any official GB leak would be TouchWiz, it's worthless, which simply isn't true. A lot of us would be very happy with a Gingerbread KB or EF.
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I am one of them. I would prefer the TW GB over AOSP roms.
Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP. I'm just loving my phone's performance... knowing how Sammy did TW Froyo just makes me leery of any GB they have going on.
I have more faith in the devs here than I do in Samsung.
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Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP.
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But that's my point -- some of us need MMS to work now, not just potentially in the future, so we don't have a choice yet. If we're stuck with TouchWiz, it would at least be nice to have the latest version of the OS, whether or not it helps AOSP developement.
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Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP. I'm just loving my phone's performance... knowing how Sammy did TW Froyo just makes me leery of any GB they have going on.
I have more faith in the devs here than I do in Samsung.
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well said and a very good point. TW is an atrocity. I understand the functionality argument and the need for it in the workplace but IMO TouchWiz itself, even fully functional, isn't functional because it's trash. I think anyone who has spent a halfway decent amount of time on AOSP and can stand a few things that don't work would agree with me. But again this is just my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone. I'm not trying to get the next generation updated touchwiz, I'm hoping to do away with TW altogether with official Cyanogenmod/Teamhacksung support. I mean, with fully functioning AOSP, who would want/need TW?
The question I have is whether or not it is TW4. I'd give it a chance if it was. Still I'd ditch it for MIUI or CM7 once they are functional.
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The question I have is whether or not it is TW4. I'd give it a chance if it was. Still I'd ditch it for MIUI or CM7 once they are functional.
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A majority of us would jump ship for an AOSP 2.2 over TW 2.3. Plus in the end as soon as it drops there will be countless threads about Ice Cream Sandwich and when it is coming.
Most casual users are just concerned with what is shiny and new, evidence is in every UKB release.
I agree with Kid, in the end it is still going to be TW and the hype machine should not take this with to much hope.
I totally agree about cutting down on unrealistic hype, so let me ask this:
What, specifically, are the end-user (not developer) differences between running the latest Voodoo'd version of UKB and the latest version of jt's CM7 that lead you to say that a TouchWiz-based rom like UKB is a nonfunctional piece of trash?
The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
I checked out one of these today and I think it will be perfect for me until the Asus memo 370 comes along... but I have a galaxy nexus and after using ics I really don't want to go back to hc.
Has anyone read or have samsung announced if/when it will be receiving ics?
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How long is a piece of string? Q2 Samsung reckon.
I'm running ICS on my SGS2 and have honeycomb on the 7.7 and I guess its preference really I can put up with HC until a dev gets around to ICS for us.
do you notice much of a difference between the 2? Still tossing up whether to pull the trigger now or wait (I have the original galaxy tab atm)...
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I checked out one of these today and I think it will be perfect for me until the Asus memo 370 comes along... but I have a galaxy nexus and after using ics I really don't want to go back to hc.
Has anyone read or have samsung announced if/when it will be receiving ics?
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Why would you want a Memo as a replacement for a Tab 7.7? That's a serious downgrade in my book.
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Why would you want a Memo as a replacement for a Tab 7.7? That's a serious downgrade in my book.
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downgrade in term of screen maybe, but in term of processing power and gpu, I think tegra 3 still in the leading hand
I'd wait for memo 370t also, but for 250 , I dont think it can do voice call, which would be a big no for me
tab 7.7 launching schedule is Feb 11th so gonna wait till more active development in tab 7.7 while seeing on MWC about ASUS
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How long is a piece of string? Q2 Samsung reckon.
I'm running ICS on my SGS2 and have honeycomb on the 7.7 and I guess its preference really I can put up with HC until a dev gets around to ICS for us.
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After using ICS on my Galaxy Nexus I dont even want to use my 7.7.. We need some ICS love for the 7.7.. A.S.A.P.
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ICS update.
Love Samsung mobiles but so far their history of devices is abysmal.
Asus Transformer Prime (Tegra3), Previous Transformer (Tegra 2), Motorola Zoom (Tegra2) is already receiving ICS updates but Samsung Tab 10.1 and Tab 8.9 also based on Tegra 2 still no word.
On Exynos some leaks are still rolling out for SGS2. So Note still needs to follow and only then will they look at other tabs. Ridiculous.
On top of that I flashed ICS leak on my SGS and TW dominates ICS so much that it might as well be gingerbread. Basically all thats left of ICS UI is the settings.
SAD SAD SAD.
Best thing we can hope for is a stable Cyanogen 9 rom for tab 7.7
CM9 will be boss on this tab, I'm running the KANG on my Gtab 10.1
Yeah.. I am moving forward not even thinking about the "ICS" update from Samsung. CM9 or a vanilla build of ICS, Id like to get as close to stock Android as possible on this bad boy. It just seems that TouchWiz is a "bottle neck" as the system seems laggy when using the UI. My fingers are crossed. Hell I may even have some funds for donation.
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Yeah.. I am moving forward not even thinking about the "ICS" update from Samsung. CM9 or a vanilla build of ICS, Id like to get as close to stock Android as possible on this bad boy. It just seems that TouchWiz is a "bottle neck" as the system seems laggy when using the UI. My fingers are crossed. Hell I may even have some funds for donation.
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Lag is virtually non-existent on this device honestly. Just replace TouchWiz launcher with ADW EX, and you'll be flying.
Basically, yeah, it's not ICS yet, but honestly, it's not like what we have now is a bad experience by any stretch. It's plenty good, hell it's fantastic, for now, until Samsung or the dev community gets a working ICS build for us.
Replace TouchWiz
Totally agree, although I would also suggest Go Launcher EX. I tried both this weekend and I find Go Launcher EX even more smooth than ADW EX, but both excellent.
Someone posted on here about them playing with the leaked alpha/beta ICS update for the SGSII and they said all that was left of rhe ICS gui was the settings window and that TouchWiz dominated the ROM. That is very disappointing to me, but i mean what did i expect afterall. Ive never bought any other devices but Google Flag Ship devices that run stock android so i guess thats my point of reference.. For me android is about choice.. letting the user CHOOSE what they want, Samsung should build in a toggle to turn off TouchWiz completely if we the user chooses to. I just feel it adds another layer that just steals CPU cycles and doesnt really add any benefit.
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Lag is virtually non-existent on this device honestly. Just replace TouchWiz launcher with ADW EX, and you'll be flying.
Basically, yeah, it's not ICS yet, but honestly, it's not like what we have now is a bad experience by any stretch. It's plenty good, hell it's fantastic, for now, until Samsung or the dev community gets a working ICS build for us.
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Would love to use ADW EX but I cant get rid of black bar on top. The standard transparent bar thats part of stock TW turns into a grey bar and no setting I change can get it transparent again. If you could help me out here I might just run ADW...
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Someone posted on here about them playing with the leaked alpha/beta ICS update for the SGSII and they said all that was left of rhe ICS gui was the settings window and that TouchWiz dominated the ROM. That is very disappointing to me, but i mean what did i expect afterall. Ive never bought any other devices but Google Flag Ship devices that run stock android so i guess thats my point of reference.. For me android is about choice.. letting the user CHOOSE what they want, Samsung should build in a toggle to turn off TouchWiz completely if we the user chooses to. I just feel it adds another layer that just steals CPU cycles and doesnt really add any benefit.
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That was me that posted it and yes I agree.
Supercurio also has a support forum asking for a "AOSP Launcher for Samsung ICS" Go and add support. Hopefully he can somehow convince them to include stock UI.
Who knows... maybe by the time we'll have ICS we'll be able install some win8 on this device
What's the big deal with Win8..?
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What's the big deal with Win8..?
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It supposedly will have ARM support so there might be a possibility of setting up Android tablets to boot to it, or at least maybe a lite version of it. Dunno if that's a good thing, but having more options generally is preferable.
(And, sorry, but I didn't mean to hit thanks.)
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having more options generally is preferable.
(And, sorry, but I didn't mean to hit thanks.)
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Lol, I agree about more options, but Windows..? I guess I'll have to wait and see...
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well.. as a windows user most of my apps (including the ones i develop) are windows platform based... so having a tablet that can run these can be nice... most likely I will switch to a windows supporting tablet when win8 be officially released...
Have a nice day,
SK.
Understood.. But is it good.?
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Understood.. But is it good.?
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There's a dev preview of Windows 8 out now. It won't work on ARM devices (nor will it install as a VM on Fusion for Mac), but it gives a good sense of the feature set and UX. It's basically Windows 7 with an embedded tablet mode.
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything
Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it
Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though
Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.
Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?
sdhanjal15 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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True...
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.
Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.
I want JB 2
I know there is some costume Roms but they have some bugs and i love the stock one,
Hope we will get some love too
Stock has traditionally had more bugs than custom roms so i really dont see the point of waiting for asus
Yeah I just saw the news ((
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mrevankyle said:
Stock has traditionally had more bugs than custom roms so i really dont see the point of waiting for asus
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yeah! but official releases helps developers to make betters room in less time
i9apps said:
I want JB 2
I know there is some costume Roms but they have some bugs and i love the stock one,
Hope we will get some love too
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I think people should be more about this.
Every Asus tablet that gets JB is one closer to us getting it.
Which is not to say we will get it for sure but obviously the 700,300, and 201 will get it before we do.
Just my opinion but the Infinity is now the current flagship of the Transformers and the 300 was just a stopgap after the 201 fiasco. So sales must be lagging and this JB upgrade is just another gimmick to make the 300 more attractive. A price rollback will be more convincing IMO.
Theres new Asus tablets coming in the near future with Chrome O.S and my understanding is they have more Google tablets coming aswell.
Asus will also be one of the first to launch a Windows8 tablet but the deal is that they have to let Windows unleash their own built devices first for a certain period of time.
If correct then i can only imagine that after Jellybean we may not see much more in the way of O.S upgrades on any of the current Asus range.
(Asus rep was in my work place on Thursday - no mention of JB for Tf101)
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yeah! but official releases helps developers to make betters room in less time
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New binaries definitely help too.
I'm not jealous because EOS3 is running JB and so far its about the best my tf101 has ever run before!
Did Asus ever settle on whether or not they were actually going to officially support JB on the tf101? Last I had heard they said only the Prime and newer were getting it officially..
i9apps said:
I want JB 2
I know there is some costume Roms but they have some bugs and i love the stock one,
Hope we will get some love too
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Now, Im jelly!!! Where can I get a COSTUME ROM???? JK!!!!
Just got me a TF101. Its running Megatron 1.1.6 with Guevor's 21.5 kernel. I like JB (ran it on my A500) but will wait a little bit longer for the builds to get fully baked.
Is JB really that big of deal? I mean I get it new versions of OS are always good but does it really do much?
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Is JB really that big of deal? I mean I get it new versions of OS are always good but does it really do much?
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On my A500 I did see improved performance between ICS and JB. There is always going to be something newer and better around the corner. At some point a particular device will hit its maximum acceptable performance limit and the availability of new ROMs will come to a halt. Throughout the lifecycle you deal with the tradeoffs. Performance/stability/usability.
JellyBean made everything smoother on my TF with butter.
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Is JB really that big of deal? I mean I get it new versions of OS are always good but does it really do much?
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I have JB 4.1.1 on my Nexus 7, and I don't think it's that much better than ICS. ...But, some people think it's much better.
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torpedovegas21 said:
Is JB really that big of deal? I mean I get it new versions of OS are always good but does it really do much?
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I like the eye candy of it. The lockscreen really looks neat and it feels much smoother in transitions compared to ICS and Honeycomb. (For me personally)
One word.... BUTTER
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