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As I recently posted here. I currently have an epson and novatec evo.
One thing that made me say hmm is that the major difference seem to be things that are normally adjustable (monitors & TV's)
So how could we go about changing these settings?
In Linux I know you can use shell to change most things.
For example xgamma.
Speaking of which I believe those could be ported.. but this isn't XOrg, so could be hard.
Also I know ATI has aticonfig, which allows you to change those settings in shell as well.
We have Adreno GPU's by Qualcomm made specifically for phones, and I doubt that could be ported but it's another thought..
Is there any friggin way we can adjust these settings?
Any ideas? Kernel-tweaks, anything?
I feel like for the super-duper phones we have this can't be too much to ask.
I'll look into it more once I choose which one to keep and re-root but until then I was hoping I could get some community input
topdnbass said:
As I recently posted here. I currently have an epson and novatec evo.
One thing that made me say hmm is that the major difference seem to be things that are normally adjustable (monitors & TV's)
So how could we go about changing these settings?
In Linux I know you can use shell to change most things.
For example xgamma.
Speaking of which I believe those could be ported.. but this isn't XOrg, so could be hard.
Also I know ATI has aticonfig, which allows you to change those settings in shell as well.
We have Adreno GPU's by Qualcomm made specifically for phones, and I doubt that could be ported but it's another thought..
Is there any friggin way we can adjust these settings?
Any ideas? Kernel-tweaks, anything?
I feel like for the super-duper phones we have this can't be too much to ask.
I'll look into it more once I choose which one to keep and re-root but until then I was hoping I could get some community input
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It's probably possible. There is SurfaceFlinger (the Android graphics library, think XWindow or Xorg). You can tweak temperature settings in it, or turn certain pixel colors on/off. We may be able to accomplish something with it by tweaking things there but I've never messed with it.
Another way would be in the kernel for the panel init sequences, but they may or may not be in there. You'd need documentation to know what all the values do. I think we have the whitepaper for the Nova panels but I'm not sure about the Epson.
Hope this helps!
Thanks!
Yeah I was looking into SurfaceFlinger after hackaday managed to disable all led's except red for the nexus.
That's definitely a possibility.
I'll look into that, hopefully i'll get somewhere.
Finally, somebody else brought this up; I made a thread about this a while ago but didn't get much out of it lol. It would be really cool to level out the purplish tint on the nova's and even just to have the ability to mess with the saturation and contrast and things like that. Has there ever been app that does this for other android devices? Maybe that could help.
i've thought it weird that there the adjustments aren't avaialable in phones yet. a $200 netbook has no problem changing these settings, but a $500+ smartphone has no options.
We gotta bump this thread and hope somebody gets some real good ideas lol.
I'll see what I can do, cause this is something every smartphone should be capable of.
I saw this thread and noticed it said it has the color fix, but I don't want to download it because it doesn't have the lagfix in it. But I don't see anything about the color fix in any other thread??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814286
The color fix is new, not in the old voodoo kernels. The new one is sweet, just as fast as voodoo although the benchmark will tell you otherwise. Voodoo will be added to the new kernel eventually, so you cant wait it out and be just fine or flash away, follow the fncking instructions though.
MOD EDIT: Edited the post so it won't contain any words that may be construed as offensive.
Not at all trying to be a downer because voodoo color looks pretty awesome, but what do you mean by "just as fast as voodoo". Are you saying that the kernel is OC'ed to be similar in performance to the stock volt/clock speed voodoo kernel, or that it handles I/O differently like a voodoo ext4 fix...
I guess what i'm saying is that your post is a bit vague and i was wondering if you could clarify.. Thanks
I'm still trying to figure out whats wrong with the colors on the fascinate? I don't see the fix that the other phones might have required.
mackeydesigns said:
I'm still trying to figure out whats wrong with the colors on the fascinate? I don't see the fix that the other phones might have required.
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I'm kind of wondering the same thing. LOL.
SAMOLED Displays by manufacture display colors with a blueish tint. You can even see this tint in the reflection of the display when the screen is off. The Voodoo color fix attempts to remedy this. At this point it will only fix the color when the backlight is set to 100%.
Any news about Colour fix? When will it be released? This full brightess setting is pretty much useless, because - well, it´s just too bright...
Would it be possible to give us an interface to control these settings ourselves?
This is the most waited fix for me and I believe I´m not the onlyone.
What exactly does gamma do?
I read somewhere that you can tweak gamma settings with no effect on battery life. So you can turn the screen brightness to the minimum and raise a color setting to make the screen contrast better.
It seems to be a popular feature in kernels, but what exactly do people aim to achieve by changing their gamma settings, I don't get it...
quoting myself from another thread:
dagaetch said:
2.2 is the value you want. As for why, see http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/gamma-correction.htm; basically, electronic images are biased a certain way, and gamma correction is intended to remove that bias. since screens are different, you need different settings to correct the appropriate amount to reach 2.2, which apparently became the industry standard at some point.
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It seems to be a popular feature in kernels, but what exactly do people aim to achieve by changing their gamma settings, I don't get it...
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we aim at making our eyes happy
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quoting myself from another thread:
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Thank You! I think that pretty much halfway answers my question.
Now I wonder the effects of gamma settings on battery, and what brightness/gamma configuration is more 'eye pleasing'.
Is there a general consensious on what that configuration miht be on the Nexus 4 or will I have to play with settings to find out my own?
mastrgamr said:
Thank You! I think that pretty much halfway answers my question.
Now I wonder the effects of gamma settings on battery, and what brightness/gamma configuration is more 'eye pleasing'.
Is there a general consensious on what that configuration miht be on the Nexus 4 or will I have to play with settings to find out my own?
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There's a few presets that you can find on xda but in reality they'll all need tweaked a bit. Like the other guy said, every screens different.
Nexus 4
ATT Straight Talk $45/mo
running xylon 2.1 4.2.2 faux kernel
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Now I wonder the effects of gamma settings on battery, and what brightness/gamma configuration is more 'eye pleasing'.
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No effect on the battery. This phone has an LCD screen with a backlight, so no matter the colours, the battery drain is the same. The only possible side effect is of your gamma tuning leaves your screen so dark that you have to bump the brightness, which could affect the battery.
Sent from my Nexus 4
So I saw this in the build prop
"qualcomm sensors enable
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# LGE CHANGE_S, 2013-10-29, [email protected]
# below sensor is default true by HAL source.
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.qmd=true
#ro.qc.sdk.sensors.gestures=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.pedometer=true
#ro.qc.sensors.step_detector=true
#ro.qc.sensors.step_counter=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.pam=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.scrn_ortn=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.smd=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.game_rv=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.georv=true
# LGE CHANGE_E, 2013-10-29, [email protected]"
Not sure if anything there can help, but I know that the sharpening is applied when there's something light on a dark background or vice versa and also if you have any type of floating menu it'll sharpen everything in the background.
Samsung does this as well but as far as I know only in multi window mode.
Its not a screen issue as its not always apparent. And as far as I know the oppo find 7 has the same panel and doesn't exhibit these effects.
So anyone have any ideas?
Kernel related ?
Display drivers?
Maybe we should all email lg and ask them for an option to remove it.
Just fyi oppo use japan display inc panel while lg use their own panel
I think the only way to defeat the sharpening is with a custom kernel and possibly an app to tweak the display unless LG of course turn this 'feature' off in the future themselves via an OTA update.
daleski75 said:
I think the only way to defeat the sharpening is with a custom kernel and possibly an app to tweak the display unless LG of course turn this 'feature' off in the future themselves via an OTA update.
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Hope they do. Its pointless.
So anyways I came across another thing.
If you tune the display with a kernel app as in colors. If you tune all the colors down and make the colors darker and such, everything will have the sharpening applied. So it seems like the software sees that and applies it to everything.
Hoping it's just kernel
Lostatsea23 said:
Hope they do. Its pointless.
So anyways I came across another thing.
If you tune the display with a kernel app as in colors. If you tune all the colors down and make the colors darker and such, everything will have the sharpening applied. So it seems like the software sees that and applies it to everything.
Hoping it's just kernel
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I am just guessing as I am not a developer by any shape of the imagination but this sounds like it's built into the OS so possibly a tweak to prevent this behaviour from getting triggered which will turn off the sharpening effect.
daleski75 said:
I am just guessing as I am not a developer by any shape of the imagination but this sounds like it's built into the OS so possibly a tweak to prevent this behaviour from getting triggered which will turn off the sharpening effect.
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Yes I think so. If someone can baksmali the ROM maybe they can find something. Id get in touch with a Dev but as this time it seems like no one owns the device.
Lostatsea23 said:
Yes I think so. If someone can baksmali the ROM maybe they can find something. Id get in touch with a Dev but as this time it seems like no one owns the device.
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When it finally rolls out to the USA then I think it will get better dev support.
I'll have the device soon, but I'm not sure we're able to turn it off since it may be the part of the driver. Haven't done it yet, but if we can debug the running code and binary patch the trigger effect into not signaling, we may fix it. If it IS a trigger at all; e.g. we should find when it does signal the driver/gpu to apply sharpening and just switch code from JE to JNE or similar to kill the trigger and never apply it.
Theoretically.
Hopefully LG can turn it off and not a hardware combo issue with the 801 and this particular display tech.
It can be turned off. They purposely added it
Lostatsea23 said:
It can be turned off. They purposely added it
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I wonder if anyone knows the purpose. Because any sane person would turn it off after seeing it in action.
toncij said:
I wonder if anyone knows the purpose. Because any sane person would turn it off after seeing it in action.
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The purpose is either, they want to emphasize the need for it so they make things extra sharp over 1080p not realizing it actually looks worse when its sharpened. Or its because the contrast ratio is low so to do that they sharpened it in areas where it would be more noticeable to make it more legible. Again, doesn't really help.
On the galaxy phones it would produce this on multi window mode as stated and when putting a cm ROM on it you wouldn't get any of that since there's no window mode. But... If you go into screen settings and change the screen aliasing type or whatever, if you change from standard to reading mode it would make the display sharp exactly like we see on this one. So once we get kernel support for screen modes (cm adds modes such as movie mode and sharpness ect) then we should be fine.
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The purpose is either, they want to emphasize the need for it so they make things extra sharp over 1080p not realizing it actually looks worse when its sharpened. Or its because the contrast ratio is low so to do that they sharpened it in areas where it would be more noticeable to make it more legible. Again, doesn't really help.
On the galaxy phones it would produce this on multi window mode as stated and when putting a cm ROM on it you wouldn't get any of that since there's no window mode. But... If you go into screen settings and change the screen aliasing type or whatever, if you change from standard to reading mode it would make the display sharp exactly like we see on this one. So once we get kernel support for screen modes (cm adds modes such as movie mode and sharpness ect) then we should be fine.
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Well, I don't believe a whole bunch of smart engineers, designers and such in dev and QA would not notice it sucks...
And for screen modes, after so much hassle, I hope and expect LG is preparing us a "turn bloody thing off" setting...
Well once it comes out in the states I will be contacting some devs about it. We need a boot loader unlock as well though
toncij said:
I wonder if anyone knows the purpose. Because any sane person would turn it off after seeing it in action.
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Without seeing it in person, it probably was added to make their simple UI have more of a pop to it. They were probably trying to make it stand out more in stores, like how tvs usually have horrible settings when on display at a store.
flaring afro said:
Without seeing it in person, it probably was added to make their simple UI have more of a pop to it. They were probably trying to make it stand out more in stores, like how tvs usually have horrible settings when on display at a store.
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They're dumb because it makes it look worse. In almost positive a fix will be found. If anything maybe the carrier releases will have this fixed already.
Guess what...
I installed bravia engine v3 from Android Tweaker 2 and...
I think my display is more clear and the sharpening is slightly gone!
You guys better try it and tell your impression
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app
haris182 said:
Guess what...
I installed bravia engine v3 from Android Tweaker 2 and...
I think my display is more clear and the sharpening is slightly gone!
You guys better try it and tell your impression
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app
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Nope. Exactly the same. Placebo
Sugar pills taste so good
rushless said:
Sugar pills taste so good
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Lol. If an update to remove this isn't out in the next couple weeks. Bye bye G3
1. Screen brightness under sunlight: the S6 was a lot brighter thanks to a special setting enhancing colors, the Nexus is barely readable.
2. Camera software: S6 wins hands down here, on Nexus don't even have exposure compensation.
3. Headphones volume: Nexus is too low.
4. Notification sounds with headphones: the S6 was ringing from main speaker, the Nexus barely emits a sound in headphones, so you may miss notification when headphones are plugged in but non on your hear.
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1. Screen brightness under sunlight: the S6 was a lot brighter thanks to a special setting enhancing colors, the Nexus is barely readable.
2. Camera software: S6 wins hands down here, on Nexus don't even have exposure compensation.
3. Headphones volume: Nexus is too low.
4. Notification sounds with headphones: the S6 was ringing from main speaker, the Nexus barely emits a sound in headphones, so you may miss notification when headphones are plugged in but non on your hear.
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1. I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget but you need to be rooted. Got root?
2. I find HDR+ to be okay with exposure but I'm not a big camera type of person.
3. Can't really comment.
4. See number 3
Not rooted yet, waiting for Android N
U should root your phone.. after that with the apk https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget and a custom Kernel u will have a bettern one than ur s6
PS: I don't get why u r waiting "n"
OK will root.
Just wanted to wait to upgrade to N to avoid upgrade problems
There's a tut for headphone volume.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/boost-headset-volume-t3237661/page2
Also there is a free app that gets used with elementalx kernel that works great for brightness and can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/themes-apps/ultra-brightness-mode-elementalx-t3281649
As stated in previous post, you will need root for both.
e753 said:
U should root your phone.. after that with the apk https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget and a custom Kernel u will have a bettern one than ur s6
PS: I don't get why u r waiting "n"
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Anyone solution for no custom kernels?
thegios said:
Anyone solution for no custom kernels?
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vip4android
e753 said:
vip4android
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I meant for brightness
thegios said:
I meant for brightness
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Lol!
Please stop here.
Could you please:
open the link
read the description
tell us where it is written that u need a custom kernel
thx
e753 said:
Lol!
Please stop here.
Could you please:
open the link
read the description
tell us where it is written that u need a custom kernel
thx
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You wrote it above.
And in description I read:
*Nexus 6P requires a custom kernel such as ElementalX, Franco, AK, or Kylo*
e753 said:
Lol!
Please stop here.
Could you please:
open the link
read the description
tell us where it is written that u need a custom kernel
thx
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I read that as only being a fix for rooted phones and I'm all aboyt the flashing stuff, so I can see how he could have thought so as well/ assumed it wouldn't be of any help in his case/ didn't bother to click the link.
That being said, I have no clue why someone would not root their 6p when it would solve 3/4 of the things they dislike about it. It's like a ten minute process max and is utterly devoid of risk or effort lol
I am rooted now.
I installed the widget.
When I run it says I am not rooted.
Read description and says it needs custom kernel.
I am lost now... Please explain
thegios said:
I am rooted now.
I installed the widget.
When I run it says I am not rooted.
Read description and says it needs custom kernel.
I am lost now... Please explain
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u r right, sorry.
u need root and a custom kernel otherwise it does not work.
my fault
e753 said:
Lol!
Please stop here.
Could you please:
open the link
read the description
tell us where it is written that u need a custom kernel
thx
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You do need a custom kernel and root. I know I use it. Plus it does say as much in the description.
Nexus 6P requires a custom kernel such as ElementalX, Franco, AK, or Kylo
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You do need a custom kernel and root. I know I use it. Plus it does say as much in the description.
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OK do my question is: is there a solution for high brightness that does not require a custom kernel?
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OK do my question is: is there a solution for high brightness that does not require a custom kernel?
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I don't believe so but High Brightness Mode widget is one of the main reasons I have root and the only reason I run a custom kernel.
And the widget works as advertised.
I use ElementalX with Tasker to achieve high brightness mode. Don't need the widget.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/using-tasker-to-enable-brightness-mode-t3273032
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thegios said:
OK do my question is: is there a solution for high brightness that does not require a custom kernel?
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No. You need a custom Kernel.
83097markcynt said:
I don't believe so but High Brightness Mode widget is one of the main reasons I have root and the only reason I run a custom kernel.
And the widget works as advertised.
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So the widget makes the brightness what it should be in the sun, like other Samsung panels?
sp44 said:
So the widget makes the brightness what it should be in the sun, like other Samsung panels?
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I dont have a comparison but i use HBM and its essential for me to see the screen in sunlight.
Also theres a nifty tasker tutorial somewhere on xda i used and it automatically triggers HBM when light reaches a certain point. Do a search if youre interested. If you cant find it let me know and Ill see if i can find it. More convenient than a widget and it doesnt add clutter.
Found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/using-tasker-to-enable-brightness-mode-t3273032