Concerned about rooting - Atrix 4G General

I'm concerned about rooting or modifying my Atrix a second time. My first Atrix that I had rooted stopped working when I tried to update the OS through the wi-fi download of the update. Mid-way through, the Android mascot and the exclamation sign came up and I had to pull the battery. When I rebooted the phone it said the modem failed to start up. I don't know the reason for it but I went to the store and used my insurance to get a fresh one. Since then, I have only sideloaded apps and now with the Gingerbread update I don't have to use a USB cord to install apps anymore. I'm afraid to try to root or modify my Atrix again.

Bagel Bear said:
I'm concerned about rooting or modifying my Atrix a second time. My first Atrix that I had rooted stopped working when I tried to update the OS through the wi-fi download of the update. Mid-way through, the Android mascot and the exclamation sign came up and I had to pull the battery. When I rebooted the phone it said the modem failed to start up. I don't know the reason for it but I went to the store and used my insurance to get a fresh one. Since then, I have only sideloaded apps and now with the Gingerbread update I don't have to use a USB cord to install apps anymore. I'm afraid to try to root or modify my Atrix again.
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Rooting should not have given you that problem. I've rooted numerous A4g's on froyo and they are all running GB fine after the ota. I also re-rooted them all now that they have GB. No issues. Also if your atrix didn't give you a boot error right when you turned it on you could have manually flashed a build and wouldn't have had to use you insurance.
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Alright, that eases my mind. Perhaps I just had some hardware failure.
How does rooting affect everything? Like you said, you are able to update via OTA when rooted and everything is fine. I also have a question about how to root exactly. I saw the sticky but it only mentioned the leaked release of Gingerblur and not the OTA version. Does the information still apply?

Its a little more involved if don't have your bootloader unlocked. Follow the post mramirezusa has about automatic unlocked bootloader and root.
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Be sure to read the instructions twice, then read it again for good measure!
Also check out the [HOWTO] Root after sbf flash thread in the dev section
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OTA Update issues

So I have Unrevoked3, and want to update OTA, I don't need root anymore.
However, when I update it goes to start the update, then I get a yellow triangle with an exclamation point and an android, it just sits there til I pull the battery.
I want to be sure this is just an issue with needing to unroot, and not something else.
If its just an unrooting issue, how do I unroot from Unrevoked3? All the unrooting topics I've found were for toast or simpleroot.
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Btw, the RA is Clockwork recovery.
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Pretty sure all you need to do is put the update on your SD card, flash it, and then you're done. You'll lose root, but it should work that way. YMMV and all that.
I'll try it when I get home, hopefully it'll work.
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any word? I too am having the yellow triangle displayed on my screen when trying to install the OTA after doing Unrevoked 3
Nevermind, Im downloading now.
Im also downloading the 1.47 RUU incase I need to start from scratch, which Ive heard works with revoke.. Im just not sure how to reflash the stock recovery image and get rid of Clockwork Mod and Unrevoked.
I ran flash sdcard:update.zip and so far its updating with no issues, will wait for boot up to see if it took.
I think using the ruu is the only way to reset the recovery, anyway thats what I did and d/ling the OTA now.
Worked fine. Booted up took a bit, but Im used to that with all updates, Im now running Android 2.2
As a side, is the FroYo update supposed to wipe apps/settings? Mine werent.
well mine seemed to work, I didn't care about reseting so my process went like this..
completely stock+unrevoked3 root+clockworkmod
RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_release_CL195459.exe
OTA d/l and installed over 1.47
ota installed successfully
factory defaulted with 2.2 in place
Im running 2.2, but none of my settings were reset and all my apps are still there.
Does running this : RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_rele ase_CL195459.exe erase all of the phone's previous memory?
freditoj said:
Does running this : RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_rele ase_CL195459.exe erase all of the phone's previous memory?
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Yes.
It does not erase your sd card tho.
So unrevoked 3 users can't use the Froyo OTA update?

Fascinate OTA update underway

I just did a check for updates on my Fascinate, and it pulled down a 697KB update, SCH-I500_DH12_to_DI01. Not sure what it changes, etc.
I was able to download it, but I can't get it to install. It keeps failing. Do I have to unroot to install?
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Not sure. Some guys in #samsung-fascinate on irc.freenode.net are going to mess around with it.
I got it. I think it installed correctly. Baseband ends in DI01 now.
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did you lose root?
got mine really don't notice a difference..anyone else?
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Just tried to trigger the update - got a Server Unavailable message. Guess they took it down??
Mine failed. Says IP previous update failed now.
the is a list of changes in one of the threads in dev section.
you have to have a stock /system to be able to apply so if you removed any bloat must put back or flash with odin
Ota will cause root lose but we have a flashable zip with root if you got clockwork running
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orateam said:
Mine failed. Says IP previous update failed now.
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Same issue here
Mine failed as well with the following error code: "UPDATE FAILED or INCOMPLETE. reason: IP_PREVIOUS_UPDATE_FAILED."
I wasn't rooted, but I do have third party software installed. Any ideas why I can't get the update to stick?
I tried the update on my non rooted phone. I mean i've never even done anything extra to it, and i still got the update failed reason: IP_PREVIOUS_UPDATE_FAILED
I'm thinking there must be something wrong with the update.
I'm having the same issue with "IP_PREVIOUS_UPDATE_FAILED".
I was rooted+lagfixed but went back to stock using the ODin restores, still getting the above. I've tried it with and w/o CWM enabled as well.
*EDIT*: I just want to note that the phone attempts to reboot and install the update, and I can see (VERY briefly) the recovery manager attempting to apply the update. In this, I was able to see 'signature verification failed' amongst the normal messages.
Hmm, if you're running the stock recovery, and stock everything else, and you see a "signature verification failed" error, then the downloaded patch must be corrupt. I'm guessing you might need to delete the downloaded files and force it to redownload the patch, but I have no idea how to do that.
On a side note, I just applied the official patch to my rooted and lag-fixed Fascinate yesterday, by temporarily reverting to stock, and re-rooting afterward. I posted the steps I took to do this over in the development forum, for those that are interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792652
I called verizon and talked to tech support about the IP_PREVIOUS_UPDATE_FAILED problem, he didn't have a fix. So he said i can take my phone back to the store and have it replaced with a new one.
Anyone know where I can find the bloatware apk files? I got a little trigger happy and deleted them instead of renaming. I can't install the update until I replace them.
Any help with this...
I was rooted with lag fix and OTA installed unannounced. So I lost root as expected. Meanwhile, seems I have the update but each reboot brings the update screen back, over and over again. Baseband and build number are updated. I have rerooted, un-lag fixed. Trying to get this update to stop showing up because its KILLING my battery. Thanks for any help.
BUMPED
Hizenthorn said:
Anyone know where I can find the bloatware apk files? I got a little trigger happy and deleted them instead of renaming. I can't install the update until I replace them.
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This link has been posted multiple times. Please search. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8450686
If your Fascinate (unrooted, cannot speak to rooted phones) will not take the update, AFAIK your only option seems to be the 30 day return policy at Verizon. Last week after over two hours in the store they finally swapped, but even that phone would not take the update. I went in today, got a new phone, and it took the DI01 update. Third times the charm.
Its updated for sure and currently rooted. When the phone reboots it says installation starts in "x" and counts down. I have to defer for 24 hrs to keep from irritating me. I may try the store for an exchange.
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giving up

i guess im going to call verizon with a bs reason i need a new phone. I have tried to update off nan from when i first rooted downloads but wont install dont understand sbfing and zip files wont load need serious help
What exactly is your phone doing right now? Is it stuck on the boot logo or what?
Its operational, I just flashed back to first nan and reloaded fission cause nothing I did the 928 back to stock ect worked, even tried updating without signing into google, unrooted and all that just frustrated it won't work
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Ok, so you are up and running then. The only thing i was going to suggest is flashing SBF to get you back to Stock Android 2.2 and starting the process over again. I had a similar problem and wiped everything clean IOT get what i wanted. SBF'ing is simpler then you think, all you need is 2 files (rsdlite_4.8 and VRZ MB810_2.3.15 sbf). There's lots of articles here on it and I used them when I thought I bricked my phone. I started all over and was able to receive my 2.2.1 update.....finally!!
have you done the ota update? if so use 2.3.32.sbf you can get it by google and search droid x 2.3.32 sbf and its the first result. and dl rdlite 4.8. very easy to flash. several guides on here as stated.
I got it my drivers are up to date but won't find my phone.. And I'm leary all I got to do is that file and update?
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Try running rsdlite as the administrator. (Right click rsdlite)
Now won't find it and I got a toshiba, only a little bit over a year old
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EDIT - finally got rsd lite to recognize but first attempt failed trying again... pray
EDIT #2 - YEs, rebooted with 2.3.320 now to find 2.3.340 n flash it

Gingerblur to Gingerbread

Ok i've searched the forums and am getting more and more confused. I have gingerblur 3.1 installed currently and would like to do the ATT ota update. Can I just download it and install from the system update? Or do I need to wipe the whole phone clean and start over? Thanks and sorry if this is a duplicate.
I am wondering this too...
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I'm in the same boat, I got GingerBlur 4.5 installed and I would like to install the Gingerbread 4.5.19 OTA update. Are there proper instructions out there? I can't find any. I'm assuming I may have to go back to Stock 1.8.3 and do an OTA update. But can someone please confirm. Any instructions would help as well. Thanks
The directions I seem to need are...
Un gingerblur
Un root
As an aside, I got notified of the ota and it failed.
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goofyj8 said:
I'm in the same boat, I got GingerBlur 4.5 installed and I would like to install the Gingerbread 4.5.19 OTA update. Are there proper instructions out there? I can't find any. I'm assuming I may have to go back to Stock 1.8.3 and do an OTA update. But can someone please confirm. Any instructions would help as well. Thanks
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Make sure your battery is fully charged so that you don't run out of power during the upgrade process.
To install the upgrade:
Copy the file to the SD Card
Your phone is on the latest Android 2.2 software (Blur_Version.4.1.83.MB860.ATT.en.US)
From the home screen, press Menu, select Settings,
Scroll down and select About Phone.
Select System upgrades.
After a couple of minutes, your device will confirm the upgrade is available.
The Copy prompt will appear. Select “Copy”
The Install upgrade prompt will appear. Select Install Now.
Your device will power off and display installation progress.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
Please ensure you are aware of the following information after the installation of the package
It will then power up and stay on the carrier logo for up to 5 minutes before powering on to the home screen.
Please do not interrupt this process.
Contacts and email from Google and MOTOBLUR may take up to 60 minutes to synchronize. The phone may appear slower during this initial synchronization process
I am in the same boat as that guy with gingerblur 4.5 .
I don't have an sd card around me atm so would putting the file on the internal storage work or not?
ALSO if I update this way, will it delete all of my media and apps? thanks
ota update to gingerbread
damonsmith666 said:
I am in the same boat as that guy with gingerblur 4.5 .
I don't have an sd card around me atm so would putting the file on the internal storage work or not?
ALSO if I update this way, will it delete all of my media and apps? thanks
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please just wait for a dev to answer this question or we may brick or worse lose root forever (ohh noo) seriasly just be calm a work around will be comming soon
I will wait...
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same issue here
i tried to install the OTA update, it failed... tried to install it manually and it didn't work either. i tried to install it using android recovery and it didn't work.
Im using gingerblur 4.5
side note,
can any one of you please provide the full name of your system version? mine says "Version.4.1.83.MB860.ATT.en.US ", thing is, I tried to flash a stock sbf to roll back to motoblur, RSDlite fails every time with a message "sec_exception febe 35 35", my phone isn't recognized as 'NS Flash Olympus', it shows 'SE Flash Olympus'.
is there a thread to fix this issue?
thanks!
I figured out how to do it. First I unlocked the bootloader and then followed the directions on here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163342
Worked fine
You need to flash back to stock, i.e. flash 4.1.26 or 4.1.57 or 4.1.83. OTA update to 4.1.83 if you are on an earlier version. The update will not work if you are modded in any way. You need to be on stock 4.1.83.
My god, how many times does this have to be said!!!
So let's just say that you are a moron (like me) and just did the OTA over Gingerblur 4.5 and now you have the exclamation point triangle and android on your screen and it does do anything... is it safe to battery pull? or did I just brick my phone?
EDIT: nevermind...
Is there any guide how to flash back?...
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Well you could use rsd if you've never installed the GB ota.
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Update, now problem
I was on gingerblur 4.5, rooted, sideload enabled.
used RSD to flash 4.1.83 - successful - booted - checked mail - etc...
went to Motorolla.com and DL the official firmware
copy .zip to sd
settings/about/upgrade
let it run
followed instructions to the letter from Motorola
30 minutes now on the Rethink Possible screen - seems like a fail?
Help?
Update - she lives, just needed to wait about 45 minutes

My method on 2.3.6

I know there have been varying posts on the subject, but I thought I would share my experience with the update. I originally started out on a bootloader unlocked, rooted, At&t branded Atrix. I had installed the 2.3.4/4.5.91 fruitcake previously and had been using it for some time. When the update came down I rolled back to stock recovery using fastboot and after the installation of the update, the phone gave me an failed to boot 4. I used rsd to flash the official 2.3.4/4.5.91. I received a failed to boot 1. (After going to launder my, now soiled, trousers) I noticed that when I plugged the phone in, RSD still recognized the phone, even though it did not show the "entering RSD mode" tag. It occured to me to attempt to flash pudding using the 4.2 auto unlock. Immediately after flashing pudding the phone booted up and everything was working fine.
At this point I rooted and installed clockwork on the phone using the same 4.2 tool. I then used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to back up my root. Unfortunately the tool installs clockwork in order to root the phone, so I had to flash back to stock recovery using fastboot. . I then booted, downloaded, and then installed the update.
After the update the phone rebooted, and gave me "failed to boot 2, starting RSD mode". At which point I installed pudding again using the tool. Rebooted after having installed pudding, the phone booted beautifully. I used OTA Rootkeeper to restore my root after the boot. Everything is working fine and it is on current version 4.5.141. I hope this helps someone else, or maybe someone to find a more simple, straight-forward way of doing this.
Doogiedoo said:
I know there have been varying posts on the subject, but I thought I would share my experience with the update. I originally started out on a bootloader unlocked, rooted, At&t branded Atrix. I had installed the 2.3.4/4.5.91 fruitcake previously and had been using it for some time. When the update came down I rolled back to stock recovery using fastboot and after the installation of the update, the phone gave me an failed to boot 4. I used rsd to flash the official 2.3.4/4.5.91. I received a failed to boot 1. (After going to launder my, now soiled, trousers) I noticed that when I plugged the phone in, RSD still recognized the phone, even though it did not show the "entering RSD mode" tag. It occured to me to attempt to flash pudding using the 4.2 auto unlock. Immediately after flashing pudding the phone booted up and everything was working fine.
At this point I rooted and installed clockwork on the phone using the same 4.2 tool. I then used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to back up my root. Unfortunately the tool installs clockwork in order to root the phone, so I had to flash back to stock recovery using fastboot. . I then booted, downloaded, and then installed the update.
After the update the phone rebooted, and gave me "failed to boot 2, starting RSD mode". At which point I installed pudding again using the tool. Rebooted after having installed pudding, the phone booted beautifully. I used OTA Rootkeeper to restore my root after the boot. Everything is working fine and it is on current version 4.5.141. I hope this helps someone else, or maybe someone to find a more simple, straight-forward way of doing this.
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Thanks for the info. Do you mind if I re-post in this thread over in the dev forum? I noticed your post count is too low to post over there.
I just got my phone back from Motorola after they fixed a shattered screen. I had sent it in with an unlocked BL, running a CM7 kang. They sent it back running stock .141.
Since I didn't do the update, I had no idea how to proceed re-unlocking it. But it sounds like between you and Nottach, I should be ok with the pudding unlocker(knock on wood).
how did you get rid of superuser on fruitcake?
ghost_og said:
Thanks for the info. Do you mind if I re-post in this thread over in the dev forum? I noticed your post count is too low to post over there.
I just got my phone back from Motorola after they fixed a shattered screen. I had sent it in with an unlocked BL, running a CM7 kang. They sent it back running stock .141.
Since I didn't do the update, I had no idea how to proceed re-unlocking it. But it sounds like between you and Nottach, I should be ok with the pudding unlocker(knock on wood).
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Not at all, if it's any use to anyone, feel free to repost it. Also, I had a hardware problem (screen banding) on my atrix and sent it back for repairs. When it was returned, it no longer showed unlocked. The bootloader was still unlocked, but I had to reapply the unlock sbf to get it to show again (before using another rom).
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how did you get rid of superuser on fruitcake?
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I still had it installed on fruitcake, but lost it (well, rather lost root access, as the app "superuser" is still there but not functional) when I installed the sbf file initially. I'm not sure if flashing pudding or using the automatic unlock on the fruitcake initially would have worked. I didn't think to try it initially.
Cool,thanks for the info.
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