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WaveSecure

Hey there guys. Just wanted to share my experience with using wave secure on the desire.
After a friend was mugged and had his desire stolen from him it got me onto thinking about protection from having someone use my phone and loosing my photos etc and also trying to recover the stolen handset.
My search lead me to wave secure. A multi platform protection software.
It consists of two apps on the phone (the main app and then an app to prevent un-installing the main app).
It allows locking down the phone if a different sim is used in the handset and online tracking of the phone even with a different sim card inserted.
You can also issue commands to remotely wipe the device.
It so far seems pretty good and has caused no slow down of the handset as it does very little in the background.
There is a 7 day trial and then if you want to sign up input "goal" as a code to recieve a discount which works out at £10 a year ($14.99) which I think is pretty cheap!
Search in the market for it and give it a go!
Phil

the only issue i could see with this is the international text rates. Your phone under certain situations will text the server which is currently not based in europe. Apparantly there are plans to add a server in the UK at some point.
Also, if the phone locks, and the thief knows something about the phone, a hardreset will remove the protection. The only way around this is to root the phone and install as a system application.

ardsar said:
the only issue i could see with this is the international text rates. Your phone under certain situations will text the server which is currently not based in europe. Apparantly there are plans to add a server in the UK at some point.
Also, if the phone locks, and the thief knows something about the phone, a hardreset will remove the protection. The only way around this is to root the phone and install as a system application.
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But that again after a hardreset your data will be wiped and that way it will be more secure then not having the program
I use it for the data wipe function , it boring to lose your phone. But its even worse to have them looking at your Privat mail / work mail / phone numbers and so on.
And if they do a data wipe then its good enough for me

Giland said:
But that again after a hardreset your data will be wiped and that way it will be more secure then not having the program
I use it for the data wipe function , it boring to lose your phone. But its even worse to have them looking at your Privat mail / work mail / phone numbers and so on.
And if they do a data wipe then its good enough for me
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fair comment.

you don't get charged for international texts. I have had no such charges on my account so it must use a uk based server of some kind.
And I know that a hard reset will wipe it but as you so then so be it but in the event that someone finds it i know I can text my number first and request the program to locate the phone for me or lock it/wipe it etc. And even if they take the sim out and put their own in i can do the same so have a greater chance of either catching the theiving scum or getting it back etc.
Phil

*WARNING* Unlocking to other network BREAKS MMS

To anyone intending to buy an Omnia7 and unlock it to put on another network...
BEWARE - MMS WILL NOT WORK.
Theres no way to change MMS settings for your new carrier.
I bought one a couple of days ago, and fell into this trap. The phone is going back as a consequence.

MMS and other network settings can usually be configured via SMS. I'd call the new provider first and ask them to send you such a message. The phone should act on the information automatically.
Let me know if this works.

at45 said:
MMS and other network settings can usually be configured via SMS. I'd call the new provider first and ask them to send you such a message. The phone should act on the information automatically.
Let me know if this works.
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Good suggestion, but we already tried that. They sent two SMS, neither were received. Standard SMS works fine.
I assume Wp7 cannot be configured in this way

You must use an app that can configure those options or try to find them on the test app of the Samsung...
This is because carriers block the auto configuration that WP7 makes use with the card you have inserted.
HTC made an app for that and i think LG can be configurated on the MFG app...

Necroman_AI said:
You must use an app that can configure those options or try to find them on the test app of the Samsung...
This is because carriers block the auto configuration that WP7 makes use with the card you have inserted.
HTC made an app for that and i think LG can be configurated on the MFG app...
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it appears Samsung also made an app, but me, and all the reviewers on the marketplace cannot get it to work. I'm left with a phone which can't support MMS. Very frustrated :-(

scoob101 said:
it appears Samsung also made an app, but me, and all the reviewers on the marketplace cannot get it to work. I'm left with a phone which can't support MMS. Very frustrated :-(
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Thats really bad! Well i'm sure carriers will eventually get a WP7 configuration later, but can you try to obtain support from Samsung on the non working app?

Necroman_AI said:
Thats really bad! Well i'm sure carriers will eventually get a WP7 configuration later, but can you try to obtain support from Samsung on the non working app?
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I will have a go with Samsung, but I`m not holding out much hope. It appears the carrier (Three) is blocking the configuration application from working. The only other thing I can think of is flashing the firmware with a stock samsung version. Anyone know if thats a possibility??
I`ve just been down to the 3 shop, and they won`t accept the phone back, because its been unlocked, funnily enough they didn`t mention this when I bought the phone and told them I`d be using it on O2.... I`ll speak to trading standards as well.
The saga continues.

scoob101 said:
I`ve just been down to the 3 shop, and they won`t accept the phone back, because its been unlocked, funnily enough they didn`t mention this when I bought the phone and told them I`d be using it on O2.... I`ll speak to trading standards as well.
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If you bought it in store and it's not faulty and is fit for purpose then they don't have to do anything as far as I'm aware. If you bought it remotely (online/phone) then you can return it without giving a reason within 14 days.
But since you've unlocked it that returns guarantee won't apply anymore as it's not in the condition it was in when sold. Your only grounds would be a fault or not fit for purpose, and the purpose was to work on the 3 network which I assume it does. And in neither case would they be obliged to give you a refund, just a replacement (which presumably would be locked to 3 again).
If I were you, I'd ask your preferred service provider (the new one) to re-flash it in their service centre, as that'll probably be their version of the firmware with their MMS settings. There will probably be a charge since they didn't supply the phone.
Have you checked if the Samsung Diagnostics tool can help you out?

I have a T-Mobile UK phone unlocked and I'm using it on AT&T in the US. I have the same problem.
Everything else works great on the phone (including 3G) but not MMS.

I think I can help you relock it again.
Please try *7465625*638*XXXXXXXX#
which XXXXXXXX is an random number or the code you got from me before

Try doing a factory reset on the phone while you have the new SIM you want to use in the phone.

delphimon said:
Try doing a factory reset on the phone while you have the new SIM you want to use in the phone.
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Yea, tried that, no dice.
We`ve decided to keep the phone, despite MMS not working (its a gift for my wife). Sh`ll email pictures instead, which is annoying but hopefully a fix for this will come out soon.

Data Too?
Apologies if this may seem like a dumb question, but is accessing data (e.g. 3g) on your unlocked phone (on a different sim) also affected or is it just MMS?
Cheers,
Asim

I thinks these issues only happend on locked phones that were unlocked after or even unlocked ones that carriers sell. This is because the carriers are blocking the autoconfig of WP7 for MMS and other stuff. I sure thought that MS would not allow this kind of stuff...

To be fair, who still actually uses MMS?
You just bought a phone that is heavily oriented around data plans.
Emails are free, MMSs are not.
No offence intended here.

Antiskunk said:
To be fair, who still actually uses MMS?
You just bought a phone that is heavily oriented around data plans.
Emails are free, MMSs are not.
No offence intended here.
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Thats pretty much what I thought when I herd you couldn't MMS.
not that I've ever sent one
But it is another dirty trick the Mobile TelCo's are playing on us.
I've tried the Samsung Network Profile app with O2, Giffgaff, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco, 3 and Orange sims all with the same result...
'This Application can't be launched with your Mobile Operator'

Yup. My phones mostly been living off Wifi
Didn't think many people bought smartphones for the "phone aspect" heh
Data connection when i'm out.
Few phone calls.......whatever they are now.....

Antiskunk said:
To be fair, who still actually uses MMS?
You just bought a phone that is heavily oriented around data plans.
Emails are free, MMSs are not.
No offence intended here.
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With respect, my wife uses MMS, and as its her phone, its not unreasonable for her to be able to use that function, is it????
Yes, she can use email to achieve a similar function, but you will already know that MMS has some distinct advantages over email (auto resizing pictures, compatibility with phones which don`t support receiving email, push delivery to all devices).
For these reasons, your implied assertion that MMS and Email are interchangable, is a long way off the mark.
Oh, and emails are not free - they consume your data allowance. I don`t know the price differential is between MMS charges, but my point is they aint free.
I`m sorry if this comes across as shirty, but implying that this isn`t a problem is not very helpful.

i have the same problem, do you guys have a solution for this...

guys,
i have found the following solution of the internet and i need your advise:
MFG is a hidden admin app on the phone. Here are the steps -- !!! use at your own risk !!!:
1. Go to the phone app
2. Dial ##634# and click Send
3. When prompted for a password type 277634#*#
4. You should now be at "Factory Menu"
5. Choose "Engineer Menu"
6. Choose "Other Setting"
7. Verify that "Set ADC" is set to Enable
8. From the "Other Setting" page, choose "Set network profile"
9. You should now be on the "Set network profile" page and in the bottom half of the window you should see a list of *.xml files. These appear to be the network configuration files.
10. Look at the filenames for the config files and take your best guess at which one to choose for your provider. I'm on AT&T and I fixed the MMS problem by choosing "_PROV_ATT_US_310_410.xml"
After you choose that *.xml profile, your MMS should be working.
what do you think ???????????????

[Q] Lost HTC Wildfire - India

My friend lost his HTC-Wildfire ( India, Bangalore).
There was no tracker enabled, is it possible to request HTC to block the device based on IMEI number? I read somewhere, it is not yet possible in India ( the blog-post was about a year old).
Any other suggestions?

HTC will not do it. Your mobile operator will do it, but, it needs a FIR from your local police station, and, as expected, it is a process full of hassle, unless you have 'contacts'.

And I heard, mobile operator keep asking to go back to device manufacturer. ( we work at SIM level, and not device, unless it is locked).
Then perhaps I should let the 'finder' enjoy his luck for now.

As I said, its a hassle filled process. From what I read and heard, it is the mobile operator who should do it, because, all of them have access to a global database of stolen phones. All they need to do is simply add your IMEI to this global list, and it is locked for use with any sim - any network. Obviously, its a process filled with legal red tape, which is why they are uncooperative.

I think when we are using android market, Google will be having our imei/serial number. Don't know if that helps to track the phone ( maybe not ). But I think everyone with android phone must be using market.
And if the person who got the phone wants to use wildfire without a sim or any other internet networks, then u can do really really nothing. All we should do is to protect our phone from being lost.

You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^

Haska said:
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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That was the first thing I did, but I think I was late by hours. By that time the device was offline.
ALso, there was a 'pattern' based unlock password. So, if the person goes about reflashing the ROM (himself, or whoever he sells to).. then that wont work.

Haska said:
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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It's already lost unfortunately.
Besides, atleast as far as I know, mobile thieves are today much more intelligent. They will first flash and format your phone before even attempting to use it (They switch off your phone immediately after picking it - happened to me once). Also, another aspect is that it is hardly ever the thief who will use it. He will sell it at first opportunity.

^@3xeno
Exactly.
I had no hope from planB, but I still did it - just in case.
Even if it works, the accuracy of location would be very important.
I can be evil and go all-out to get IMEI blocked. But just thinking whether its worth the hassle ( its more of a revenge), as they say, it wont help to get the device back.
Or should I let the 'receiver' enjoy his luck.

As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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shiranmotha said:
As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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Of course he can install "Plan B" remotely in his device from PC android market without any confirmational messages (but provided only if his gmail account is still associated with his phone. This happens only if his sim card was unchanged and i dont think that is the case).
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.

bharatgaddameedi said:
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.
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I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )

ErwinP said:
I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )
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A typical thief wont be able to get past 'pattern-unlock'. However, in hands of a hacker, with adb - everything is possible with sufficient time and motivation.
Typical thief would either sell it, or try to use it using different sim ( your best hope for any post-theft-tracking possibility).
Irony is that, pattern lock saves you from un-educated 'thief' misusing your data. But, on the other hand it motivates them to reflash the ROM, thus eliminating any chance of u tracking it.
In hands of even bigger experts, even IMEI-lock wont stay for long. I am sure there are people who know how to spoof IMEI. But I would imagine that is very small community.

Yes it all depends on the person that finds/steals the phone but better to try and fail than not try at all.And yes the Plan B requirement is that the person that has your phone uses your gmail account login on the market.With pattern lock the one that finds it would have to flash it as akshayxyz said so it all depends on the settings/luck or whatever ,but still there is no harm in trying.
After all what are the chances that someone with knowledge about these things finds your lost phone,and if that was the case then your friend has really bad luck.
I lost my phone and i used it just in case,I even kept the same password in the hope that one would log in with it.It didn`t help me since as i found out later my lcd cracked when it fell out of my pocket ,but after i got it back(the person that found it came into the store i work at and asked how much would the replacement cost) and loged in the market the app installed itself,so try it.
No harm done and its just a few clicks on the net^^.

My phone got stolen, and won't appear on Android Device Manager

Hi, today in college my phone got stolen, and when I've got home I entered on Android Device Manager, and it doesn't appear.
Does anyone know why?
P.D.: The phone is a Nexus 4, I don't know if it's important or not

_mikelanda said:
Hi, today in college my phone got stolen, and when I've got home I entered on Android Device Manager, and it doesn't appear.
Does anyone know why?
P.D.: The phone is a Nexus 4, I don't know if it's important or not
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Many reasons,
Phone is switched off
Phone doesnot have data connectivity
Location service is switched off
You had an unsecured screen and it was tuned off
You had an unlocked bootloader and phone was reset/wiped
However IEMI based tracking is possible through your local authorities.

Definitely call your carrier to have the imei blacklisted if possible.

amarprat87 said:
Many reasons,
Phone is switched off
Phone doesnot have data connectivity
Location service is switched off
You had an unsecured screen and it was tuned off
You had an unlocked bootloader and phone was reset/wiped
However IEMI based tracking is possible through your local authorities.
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I'll do that, but I mean it doesn't even appear on the list. Seemed strange to me

_mikelanda said:
I'll do that, but I mean it doesn't even appear on the list. Seemed strange to me
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This can happen for various reasons. My sincere suggestion, forget about the phone and move on, it's a long shot to find your phone back.
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Help... Lost/Stolen 6p

So I was down in Cancun, Mexico and my phone is either lost or stolen...
Its got fingerprint and pin code.... unfortunately, I can not track it as I didnt get local sim with data and its been put into Airplane and Battery Save mode... I tried to locate it in hopes someone crack the pin and turned on Wifi so I can track it but not.
So my question is, the only way for someone to use my phone now is to go into fastboot and erase everything. Since the phone is still tagged in my google account...
Will I know if someone who flash the phone back to stock?
Will Android Device Manager be smart enough to detect this?
Will I ever get my phone back?
I can get the IMEI number in a few days after I get home, it should be printed on the box, If its needed...
I know this is a long shot but hopefully somoene can shed some light and tell me what can be done...
I knew I should have bought Cerberus...

gd6noob said:
So I was down in Cancun, Mexico and my phone is either lost or stolen...
Its got fingerprint and pin code.... unfortunately, I can not track it as I didnt get local sim with data and its been put into Airplane and Battery Save mode... I tried to locate it in hopes someone crack the pin and turned on Wifi so I can track it but not.
So my question is, the only way for someone to use my phone now is to go into fastboot and erase everything. Since the phone is still tagged in my google account...
Will I know if someone who flash the phone back to stock?
Will Android Device Manager be smart enough to detect this?
Will I ever get my phone back?
I can get the IMEI number in a few days after I get home, it should be printed on the box, If its needed...
I know this is a long shot but hopefully somoene can shed some light and tell me what can be done...
I knew I should have bought Cerberus...
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It would not be much difficult for someone to reset your device. If for god's sake it's not stolen, and an honest person has found it,and somehow disabled Airplane mode and enabled WIFI/Data, you can use Android Device Manager to lock your device, and send a recovery message displaying your phone number so that he/she can contact you. Also prefer adding that you would reward that person with something in return.
But with my experience the above method is less likely to work, since you never know what kind of person has found it or stolen it.
The best thing you should do now is register a complaint in the Police for your lost/stolen device, and provide them with details like the IMEI. I have had this situation in the past, and recovered my phone with the help of Police itself.

you are referring to the local police where I lost the phone or back in my home?

gd6noob said:
you are referring to the local police where I lost the phone or back in my home?
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For me Not police but Hotel in Cancun (been there many times), and maybe your Carrier at home to block...

I have called my carrier and placed a block on it...
I was just wondering, if the phone was flash back to stock, will google someone see the device IMEI being connect to google server or something and maybe let me know?

gd6noob said:
you are referring to the local police where I lost the phone or back in my home?
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gd6noob said:
I have called my carrier and placed a block on it...
I was just wondering, if the phone was flash back to stock, will google someone see the device IMEI being connect to google server or something and maybe let me know?
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Local police, I guess. I am not aware of the rules & regulations that apply there.
It is the best way. If someone boots the phone with your SIM card, or a different one, they will instantly know.

It is possible to track the phone using the IMEI as well but depends on the local laws.
Notify both the police and your service provider, and give them your IMEI number. Cellular carriers have the ability to blacklist IMEI numbers. They can also track them using a cell tower triangulation method if the phone is somehow unlocked & moved out of Flight Mode. Basically, the carrier narrows down the location of your cell phone by measuring the angles to it from nearby cell tower antennas.
Another stroke of luck could be some apps on play store. Just log into play.google.com using a laptop/ PC and send an app to your lost phone so it can be located. Apps like ‘plan B’ can be remotely installed to your android phone at anytime the phone gets switched on and get connected to the internet.
Check if there are any IMEI tracking companies where you are right now or back home. This is purely down to the laws of the land. You can google this. Lots of websites have an online tracking system.
Hope you get your phone back. All the best

is there anyone for me to get the IMEI number while im out here? I can get the number when I get home.. but I would like to get this done all here while Im down here...

gd6noob said:
is there anyone for me to get the IMEI number while im out here? I can get the number when I get home.. but I would like to get this done all here while Im down here...
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Did you buy it online? Most online resellers provide you an invoice copy within their website, or even mail it to you. You will be able to take note of the IMEI number from the invoice itslef.

DJBhardwaj said:
Did you buy it online? Most online resellers provide you an invoice copy within their website, or even mail it to you. You will be able to take note of the IMEI number from the invoice itslef.
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no point.. carriers in Mexico wont do this unless its their own brand phone.. lol.. so that sucks...

gd6noob said:
no point.. carriers in Mexico wont do this unless its their own brand phone.. lol.. so that sucks...
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Good luck then, my friend.

I moved on...
Was deciding between the iPhone 6s+ or the Samsung S7 Edge...
I was leaning on the iphone because of the fact that the security is great.. once its lock to an itunes account, no one can use it unless it gets unlink from either the owner or at the store with the owner present... I hate the fact that it doesnt support SD card and the prices are crazy... 128gb cost $1500CAD...
Just picked up the S7 Edge.. 32gb+128gb SD Card... traded a dead sprint phone with $125 credit... so it came in just over $1000CAD...

gd6noob said:
I moved on...
Was deciding between the iPhone 6s+ or the Samsung S7 Edge...
I was leaning on the iphone because of the fact that the security is great.. once its lock to an itunes account, no one can use it unless it gets unlink from either the owner or at the store with the owner present... I hate the fact that it doesnt support SD card and the prices are crazy... 128gb cost $1500CAD...
Just picked up the S7 Edge.. 32gb+128gb SD Card... traded a dead sprint phone with $125 credit... so it came in just over $1000CAD...
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Nice to know that you stuck with Android itself. Good luck with the new device. :good:

Make no mistake. Even IOS security is not complete. There was a store that was just recently raided by the cops that made its money off of selling stolen iPhones. All it takes is forcing the phone to reset itself.
There will never be a complete secure devices. Just like any electronic devices. There will always be holes.
And to explorer some of the comments from earlier. Yes the police can track a device but it requires a warrant that is for far more then a lost phone.
As for IMEI blocking. That only works on one carrier.
Also the first thing that is done when a phones is stolen is the sim card is removed. Then it is factory reset or refreshed. And no Google doesn't care if the IMEI is activated under a new sim and number. No point in keeping track of that sort of thing.