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hello,
i wondered if it might be possible to develop an application which enables one to send an sms directly to another phone (running this application)
one may wonder, why i want to do such a thing, but for the better understanding, i will it explain it right here:
i moved to another city two weeks ago and i ordered my phone- and dsl-line at "1&1". 1&1 activated my phoneline and dsl 16000kbit/s connection. additionally they sent me a sim-card for my mobile phone. it enables me to call any fixed line number without any cost. and after a bit of research on the 1&1 website i found, that i can buy a second sim. i would be able to call this sim without any cost, too.
but the sms would be, as everywhere else 19€ct/sms.
so i wondered, if it might be possible to write a windows mobile-software that would be able to send some text directly via the cellular line. without passing the sms-gateway.
i thought of: text-to-tone conversion-software which then calls the other phone, which auto-pickups on certain phone-numbers, and then receives the tone-sequence, and converts it back to readable text.
of cause, the better solution would be to send the text digitally, but i don't even know if that might be possible.
any suggestions and ideas are very welcome.
sorry for my bad english, and sorry for the fact, that i will not be often online, cause my own pc is broken, so i have to go online in school.
greetings
garfield
Wouldn't this be similar to a fax machine?
Not being obnoxious, but it just sounds difficult since SMS is rather just a quick way to send messages from one phone to another. Calling and sending messages via text wouldn't be fast at all. I'd rather just say what I have to say...
i'd say if it was possible it would require both phones to have the program to interp the data recieved as the right type of sms
it's much like the sms over gprs thing
lemme get this straight, this is essentially an analog modem emulator, so not only would "messages" be able to be sent but files could aswell.
Would it also be possible to make "said" communications when your already on a call? that would be cool
Carnivor calls Rudegar on the phone,
Carnivor really says, "Hi Rudegar, im gonna send you that excel file now"
Rudegar really says, "Ok Carn"
you could have a signal that it sent to trigger the other phones running app to be ready to listen for the signal, then handshake and transmit and recieve data,quick ok msg on the screen, or even have it so you get "transfer completed" in the earpiece once completed you can carry on speaking over the phone.
Rudegar really says, "Thanks Carn, this is really good info, chat chat chat
intresting concept!!
you could intergrate "send data" into the phone app skin so when your in a call its easy to start up,
so it'd be good for small file transfer, or a chat app for ppl that have spare minutes to burn and dont mind not being able to make and recieve calls whilst its running.
but it could have its uses
Hi,
yes it seems to be a modem emulator, while being on my way home yesterday i thought about the problem bypassing that gateway... i thought about an own sms-gateway.
anyone has some information on how a sms gateway works? so i could write one and integrate it into my Fritz!Box or run it on my computer. this would enable me to send sms without cost, because calls and connections inside of the 1&1 VoIP network are costless...
the analog modem emulator would be an excellent idea, too... as it would allow to transmit files and "realtime" chat between one or more people.
so, any ideas on the modem emulator and the gateway are apreciated.
greetings
garfield
just Get mxit it doez dat
Get mxit it does what u mean but both phones need have this Client and you need to be online at the same time and if you not it has offline message storage and it doez filesharing to www.mxit.co.za/wap and try smsbug www.smsbug.com
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Get mxit it does what u mean but both phones need have this Client and you need to be online at the same time and if you not it has offline message storage and it doez filesharing to www.mxit.co.za/wap and try smsbug www.smsbug.com
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so mxit is a chatrelay for other instant messaging protocols, and one has to be online via GPRS/3G/UMTS/EDGE ... this produces extra cost and is not exactly the thing i wanted to have.
smssbug is a great alternative, if you're sitting in front of a pc, but no alternative for me, as it also produces cost although this is secondary when talking about 3ct/sms.
what about that "modem" emulation? is there any software out in the internet? i haven't found anything via google.
and the next thing i am thinking about is, if it might be possible to digitalize the phone-to-phone communication. or is it limited to analogoue transmission of data, because of the way it is transported over the network?
i haven't looked into the idea with the sms-gateway, but i will look that up as soon as possible, when i have my internet-connection at home.
greetings
garfield
This may be a dumb question, but does anyone know if sending/receiving txts would be possible from a wifi only xoom? I imagine it would work in gtalk, but I would like if there was a way to do it from handcent or something. Likely I will be either connected to my house wifi/work wifi/tether from my D1. If my phone isnt in my hand, but my Xoom is, id rather reply/send a text from the xoom, rather than screwing around with what device is where, I would like to use the xoom if thats whats in my hand at the time.
Anyone think there is a shot at this?
Only other guess I would have is that I think my phone has a sms backup that automatically saves a text into my gmail. The Xoom would need to set up to notify me of a new email (not hard to do), however my replies would then be sent as an email, which might not work the best....
I would assume google voice would work. It sends SMS out through data rather than as an actual SMS, so it should work. But, I do not know since I dont have a xoom, ha.
Google voice shouldn't be a problem. I'd imagine it works like any other android device.
i will add this question to "for those on the borderline, what do you want to know" thread and we will find out if it works with google voice. handcent probably wont work as there has to be a text messaging app already i believe
wont you have to text with your google voice number instead of your phone number?
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wont you have to text with your google voice number instead of your phone number?
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Yes, but that is likely the only option.
im sure someone will make an app that will link to your phone and let you remote control your texts from the xoom
excuse my lack of knowledge for google voice. I tried to do a little quick research.. If I want to keep my number (I have had it since like 2002), I am reading that you can pay to port it to GV? So I would pay the $20, and then I would be good?
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Wait I just saw porting actually cancels your current phone service, no way I am doing that...
AndyMan386 said:
excuse my lack of knowledge for google voice. I tried to do a little quick research.. If I want to keep my number (I have had it since like 2002), I am reading that you can pay to port it to GV? So I would pay the $20, and then I would be good?
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Yes and no. You would essentially be porting your number to google and would then need to get a new number from your cell provider. You may be hit with an ETF if you are still on contract though.
In it's simplest form, Google Voice is essentially a forwarding service. You have a number with GV that will forward calls and texts to the phones that you have set up. For example, I have my Nexus One (personal), iPhone (work) and office phone configured. WHen someone calls my GV number, it rings all three phones. When I get a text, it is forwarded to any mobile device with GV installed and set up with my account.
What about VoIP using Google Voice on the Xoom?
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im sure someone will make an app that will link to your phone and let you remote control your texts from the xoom
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I hope so, because I dont want to use a different (GV) phone number, and I am not interested in porting my number; messing up my contract...
If anyone knows any good developers, ask them if they think some type of program is even possible. It would be worth a few bucks
You know what.. and I really hope this becomes the solution.. it just seems to make sense. Does anybody know about that Sony Ericson bluetooth device that comes with a strap to look like a watch? And it kind of gets data from your android phone such as text messages, weather, incoming/missed calls etc.
So you keep your phone in your pocket, but have all the info you may want to check right on your wrist.
If you could just sync your android tablet with your android phone through BT, just like that SE product, so you can use its data connection, receive/respond to text messages, that would be awesome. I can see a problem in this where carriers want to double dip by making u get a separate plan for each, but with wireless hotspot it doesn't even matter. It just makes everything more convenient.
Maybe its just me, but something like this would be a HUGE feature in my eyes. Plus, it gives people a reason to use not one but two android devices. Win-Win for Google, and users who like both products.
AndyMan386 said:
I hope so, because I dont want to use a different (GV) phone number, and I am not interested in porting my number; messing up my contract...
If anyone knows any good developers, ask them if they think some type of program is even possible. It would be worth a few bucks
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I agree. I'm trying to hold out on the WiFi-only version as well, and I would love to be able to answer text messages on my Xoom. Swyping on my Evo is really easy, but not having to switch devices would definitely be worth a few bucks!
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You know what.. and I really hope this becomes the solution.. it just seems to make sense. Does anybody know about that Sony Ericson bluetooth device that comes with a strap to look like a watch? And it kind of gets data from your android phone such as text messages, weather, incoming/missed calls etc.
So you keep your phone in your pocket, but have all the info you may want to check right on your wrist.
If you could just sync your android tablet with your android phone through BT, just like that SE product, so you can use its data connection, receive/respond to text messages, that would be awesome. I can see a problem in this where carriers want to double dip by making u get a separate plan for each, but with wireless hotspot it doesn't even matter. It just makes everything more convenient.
Maybe its just me, but something like this would be a HUGE feature in my eyes. Plus, it gives people a reason to use not one but two android devices. Win-Win for Google, and users who like both products.
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hahahahaha so crazy you say that. Back in 2004 I almost dropped out of college to attempt to patent the watch like idea.. after consulting with a friend whose dad was a patent attorney, he said there were some similar ideas floating around, and the risk likely wouldnt be worth it.. Regardless, for my MBA last year, we had to create a new product. When I shared this idea with my group members, and told them how it was an idea I came up with back in 2004, we went with it, was a fun class project!
Oh yeah, here is the link
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview™/
For what it is worth, my Galaxy Tab let's me send texts from the Galaxy Tab phone number.
Another reason I went with Sprint over Verizon. Sprint was $29.99 for 5GB and unlimited messaging versus Verizon which was $20 for 1GB and no messaging.
I'm kind of bummed the Xoom won't be on Sprint initially, but oh well...I don't really *need* another number to text from.
Is it possible to insert your mobile's sim card into the tablet and be able to use the data of your existing phone contract?
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Is it possible to insert your mobile's sim card into the tablet and be able to use the data of your existing phone contract?
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This is a CDMA device. I don't think there is a sim card slot.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
The Xoom is CDMA, but there is a (micro, I believe) sim card slot. It will be used when verizon rolls out 4g. Unfortunately this doesn't mean that GSM sim cards can be used.
another way of maybe doing it is if we got something like "MyMobiler" for android, and a version that rather pc viewing cell, tablet viewing cell..
Its things like this that make me wish I was a programmer not involved in finance.. haha
Hi Everybody!
I own an ICONIA A501 since 4 days and I love it!
Since I use a prepaid account to connect to the internet (vodafone.de) I want to recharge that account with some money as soon as it go towards zero Euros...
Well, in order to do that I have to buy some voucher and then call a number (which is free of charge). And here the problems begin:
I need to be able to place calls with a dialer so that I can enter the code on the voucher. As far as I discovered there are no such apps on the A501.
Then I installed some USSD code apps but they didn't work, just like the app "myDialer lite". I can dial but then nothing happens.
Correct me if I am wrong but did Google/Acer simply forget that there are users out there which do not have data plans but prepaid accounts?
I don't want to use my A501 like a Smartphone! For that purpose I have and love my Galaxy I9003.
Are there ANY solutions? At the moment I have at least 2 ways: 1) swap the SIM with another phone and 2) let my prepaid provider draw the money from my credit card.
However, I hope someone has some other approach!
Best regards,
Werner
because the tablet do not support phone call features...
only 3G/Edge/GPRS
I try to find the documentation about this
sanaell said:
because the tablet do not support phone call features...
only 3G/Edge/GPRS
I try to find the documentation about this
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Hi,
thanks for the reply. I know that the tablet is not intended to be a phone. Would be rather funny to put it to the ear...
However, for those like me with prepaid account it would have been nice to enable us to send at least USSD codes in order to check balance of the prepaid account. I hope I can make it clear.
I really DO NOT want to place regular phone calls (it would be a nice feature though), just call the service line in order to re-charge my prepaid account.
I know this sounds like: "He do not want to use the tablet like a mobile phone but he wants to use it like a mobile phone..."
It's weird I know, but my prepaid provider (Edeka Mobil; uses vodafone.de) give the option to buy a voucher and then call the "Kontomanager" free of charge. During the call I will have to enter the cash code number and then the amount will be credited to my prepaid account. Therefore I am in need of a dialer for phoning AND typing. And IMO Google/Acer forgot us prepaid users.
Werner
I understand well
what I mean is... the tablet will act more as like a Dongle 3G rather than a phone...
I think you can't have the way "not sure" to use for send SMS or MMS or USSD or call... with the tablet...
I agree the tablet does not have the hardware to Dial out to a service. Check and see if the carrier has a update web site to do what you for purchase. Or check out the Google voice service they give you a phone number that routs phone information to txt Google email and chat
But I do not know much about its limits or ability or availability in your country
Good luck
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Correct me if I am wrong but did Google/Acer simply forget that there are users out there which do not have data plans but prepaid accounts?
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I don't think they forgot. It is just that your specific need is not significant enough to have it included in the tablet itself when compared with the amount of users that do not use this specific way to connect to the internet.
As far as solutions goes I was thinking that maybe you could setup a SIP on your tablet: this should allow you to make and receive phone calls over the internet. I have an EVO and I was able to make phone calls with it while having the 'phone' radio off (using wifi), the only problem I see is that you'll need to have a dialer somewhere (SIP droid integrated itself into the dialer so you could set it up as the default gateway for calls or use on a specific pattern basis like GV and intl calls)
SIPdroid setup is very easy (username and pass) but the SIP provider itself might not be that easy to setup (you need to setup rules for inc calls, outgoing.. also you need to connect your GV acct with the SIP and so on)
Thanks so much for all comments!
Fortunately, my internet provider has a web interface where I can query my balance and, if I want to put money to my prepaid account, they let me do it via credit card.
That's okay for me.
To all: have a nice day!
Werner
I have just found your thread (after having posted one before ).
However, I have the same problem. Are you using fyve? I need to recharge the data plan, but cannot do it since I cannot do any phone calls. On the fyve website, I did not find any web interface to enter my code.
This is my first article, but I thought I might share my experience achieving this on Rogers.
The main subject of this article covers my experience in getting Visual Voice Mail (VVM) working on the SGS2 with Rogers. This may also be easily applicable under any Android device with another carrier.
I've managed to come up with this solution after reading a couple of different websites that didn't specifically explain the whole process. So the idea here is to make it easier for Canadian residents to get their hands on VVM without needing an iphone or relying on their carrier for their Voicemail needs.
There are some costs involved, but these seem minimal (from my perspective) and quite worth it.
Disclaimer: This method worked for me on Rogers with SGS2 by taking the steps explained here. I take no responsibility if something breaks, spontaneously catches fire or if your neighbor kills your dog. In other words, do it at your own risk.
Requirements:
SGS2
Google Voice Account (GV)
Google Voice App installed
Credit Card
Make sure you back up your settings and information before proceeding.
Step 1 - Setting up Google voice.
This article assumes that you currently have a working google voice account.
If you don't, a quick google search on the subject will explain to you the process for getting a GV account in Canada.
The main setting that needs to be addressed is enabling "Do Not Disturb" permanently under "Calls" in settings.
The main drawback is that if you wish to use GV as your voicemail provider, you will need to sacrifice it's calling receiving feature, as it will direct all calls directly to voice mail under this mode.
Additionally, setting up a message for whoever might be calling is also not a bad idea. But you can live with the default message provided by google by default
Step 2 - Getting a forwarding Number
This step involves getting a local or toll free number that you will use as a forwarder for your busy/unanswered/unreachable calls.
Obviously, you'd be incurring long distance charges if you were to get your voicemail calling the US every time somebody leaves a message... Not ideal wallet wise.
I went with http://www.voip.ms, they offer either local numbers or toll free numbers that you can use as a forwarding platform for your GV number.
First off, you need to sign up, fairly straight forward process.
Once you have activated your account, you will need to add some money to your account, the minimum credit that you can buy is $25. This is done under "Finances/Add Funds".
Next, you will need to set up your forwarding number. This is done in "DID Numbers/Call Forwarding". You just click "Add Forwarding", enter the GV phone number and save.
With these credits and the forwarding set up, you'll be able to add a DID Number to your account for a monthly fee (which will be charged on the credit balance). This is done through "DID Numbers/Order DID(s)".
Multiple options are presented to you, two of which would be interesting in this case:
Local Numbers/Canada
Toll Free Numbers/Canada+United States
I chose to go with the Toll Free, for a $1.49 monthly fee + $0.032 (3.2cents) every 6 seconds. That's like $25 tops for a year (if you have people overkilling your voicemail).
They offer a selection of numbers to choose from, pick the one you like the most.
Under "DID POP", choose the closest city to your current location.
Under "Routing", select Forwarding, which should have the GV number you set up earlier
Then just click on the "Click Here to confirm your order".
At this point your forwarding is set up. You may give it a try by calling the number that was provided to you and see if it routes to your GV.
Step 3 - Setting up your phone.
There are a couple of options here. If you don't currently have voicemail with your carrier, you may skip the next paragraph. If you are like me and did have voicemail service enable, read on.
I found out the hard way with Rogers that when you have voicemail service, they block the forwarding on the phone; either you forward all calls, or you don't forward at all. To remedy this, I just called sales and after explaining the situation (me wanting to use a different voicemail system that required forwarding to be enabled but not wanting to loose any of my current features in the plan - I have an iPhone value pack) they managed to disable the voicemail which allowed me to proceed with the phone setup.
Now you can set up forwarding by going to "Settings/Call/Call Forwarding/Voice Call".
In this screen, 4 options will be available:
Always Forward
Forward when busy *
Forward when unanswered *
Forward when unreachable *
You need to set up the last 3 (the ones with the * on the previous list) with the phone number that you obtained from voip.ms.
Also ensure that GV is set up on your phone and that you have activated the voicemail features on it (it will give you an error message saying that it cannot set up properly, just ignore it).
At this point, you should be able to call your cel, reject the call and direct the caller to GV for your visual voicemail needs. You will then receive the messages in your GV inbox, visually!
This worked for me and I am rather happy with the result. Hope this helps.
Let me know if you have any questions.
References:
http://adrielservice.com/blog/?p=394
Update:
I found out that carriers mask your outgoing number along with any caller ID information when calling toll free numbers. This was preventing GV from telling me what phone number the message was from as it was receiving the call from the Rogers masked generic number. This was solved by obtaining a local DID. Only disadvantage being that if you move around, the voicemail messages may become long distance calls.
Other than that, my experience with GV is great, love the visual voicemail on the Android.
Update: I've been using this method for the last 4 months and it has been working wonderfully, provided you have data access.
I also found out that Rogers was charging me for each forwarding call; I signed up for a $3 forwarding plan which offers unlimited forwarding, not including the used minutes.
Hi, my phone isnt android but my tablet obviously is. I'm in the military with orders to korea and want to keep in touch with everyone, but my phone is a cheap cricket flip phone. All the apps that allow things like this that i could find require me to install the app on my tablet and phone, which obviously wont work. Is there an app (free or paid, i dont care which) that will let me plug in my phone number and send texts from it on my tablet? Skype's text rates are ridiculous, gtalk is great but i can only communicate with other gtalk users, facebook messenger will only be instant for people with smart phones or data plans, etc. A text app will allow me to text everyone that doesnt have a smart phone as well as those that do, and not have to hope they are at their computer to reply. Thanks for any help you guys can give me.
Have you tried using Google Voice app on your tablet? I have used it with mine and I was able to send/receive text messages using the Google Voice number I chose. I was connected to wifi when I did this.
i have google voice from before i canceled my smart phone plan, i love how it transcribes my voice mails. I dont see a send text option though, even with my new cricket number in it. All i have is an inbox, settings, labels, balance, search and refresh, and the inbox just seems to be call logs and voicemail transcribes. If you can tell me how to set up texting with it i will be quite grateful.
Edit- okay text is under labels, but i cant figure out how to send one.
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i have google voice from before i canceled my smart phone plan, i love how it transcribes my voice mails. I dont see a send text option though, even with my new cricket number in it. All i have is an inbox, settings, labels, balance, search and refresh, and the inbox just seems to be call logs and voicemail transcribes. If you can tell me how to set up texting with it i will be quite grateful.
Edit- okay text is under labels, but i cant figure out how to send one.
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Download the google voice app on your tablet, and from there you press "compose" and than just type in the number (or select a contact) and txt away .
I to have cricket .. Google voice works .. as described above.. Also two more..
PALTALK VIDEO chat has a new sms feature.. I have not used it as its brand new..
YAHOO MESSENGER NOW HAS A SIMILAR Feature. and does video chat..
Yahoo messanger for the tablet is now compatable with Crickets sms service.. IT USED to not work..
i would check them out in the order i mentioned above I do use google voice and PALTALK .. the paltalk you get from www.paltalk.com
Good Luck and STAY SAVE OVER THERE... i hear its not much better then the middle east. one of my best Girl Friends just returned from EAU .. she says they treat women over there as if they are a Possession.. i would be hung because im very independent
I have the Zio cell phone It works well well for what it is .. I love the NO contract and i get awesome signal here.. I also have a at&t cell for work and my cricket is better service ..
Something must not be compatible with my rom because there is no compose option in voice and in settings the google voice number is greyed out and i cant select it. I'll look at yahoo messenger since i have it installed and hopefully that works. Thank you both for your help.
Edit- the website for google voice has more options than the app. I thought my voicemail number i made was enough, but i made a new number thst works with texting after signing out of the app then signing back in. Just one more question, since the texts show up as from the voice number amd not the cricket number, this means i dont have to pay for the cricket service when i leave, right? I can just use this free voice number to text? It seems too good to be true.
As far as i can remember your google Voice ..must have a telephone number to be linked to.. Rather or not its just for the initial setup verification im not sure .
i Use google voice number for things i register to keep text spam off my cell phone number.. Go to CRICKETUSER FORUMS Register and ask this same Question over there. EVERYTHING you ever need to know about CRICKET Wireless is on that forum..
Cricket now offers world wide text as well.. but im not sure if it from over there to us or just from us to over seas..
Thanks again for your help, i should have everything i need to adequately keep in touch with everyone now. Seems like its a free number that can route to my existing numbers, but wont require them(aside from activation) if i just want to use the tablet or a pc. so i can cancel my cricket service for the year im gone, thanks for helping me save money.