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Hey forum ! , I was an iphone 3gs user and made the jump to android when the play came out.
Ive noticed my battery is draining 2-3% an hour and looking at the "battery use in setting and then looking at the graph it show the phone is randomly awake even when the screen is off.
My play is rooted using gingerbreak 1.1 and has mostly all the bloatware removed.
non of the apps i have installed ask for permissions to prevent standby, I only have tune in radio, mobo player, facebook, twitter adobe pdf viewer, fpse, snesoid, gameboid google maps youtube imdb touch calendar es file explorer unit convertor and ringdroid installed.
i have 12 processes running using 86mb of ram
all apps are closed properly, wifi is off, background data is enabled ( but no applications i use in the settings allow auto refreshing of data)
The battery life of my xperia play has never been great (lasts about 24hrs with just checking facebook, twitter and xda forums using the built in browser)
I just wonder what is causing the phone to keep waking up randomly, is this the culprit of the battery drain?
I have a couple of theorys .... i did install desktop visualiser to change the icons then once they were changed i deleted the app (i read this app causes battery drain) maybe this could be a cause i thought deleting the app would fix,
2nd i travel around as part of my job so i wonder if the phone is going through areas where there is poor connectivity and its constantly trying to connect to different networks causing the drain.... but does anyone know of any efficient lightweight apps that disable this when the screen is off.
lastly I think the could it be widgets i only use the built in ones with the phone, the wifi on/off gps on/off and data on/off
do you guys turn data off during the day to save battery and do you turn background data off ? i think its anoying have to change all these settings off to sqeeze a tiny bit more of juice out the phone, it probably uses more turning them on and off avery 1hr or so
any suggestions or setups of how other people have got there phone up and running with good battery life would be a real help
cheers !
Deleting all widgets certainly saved my some battery, also deleting the SE launcher with launcher pro seemed to save me a lot of battery but I'm not sure about this.
2 to 3% an hour isn't bad with radios on at all. When you say awake, do you mean the screen is on, or that it's just in standby? There is nothing in battery stats that say "awake" you need to be more specific on what the system says, not what you think it's doing.
If the screen is coming on "randomly" then it could be an incoming txt, email, phonecall or something like that. Lower your screen timeout in the settings to help there.
If its phone idle or standby, then again 2 to 3% is nothing. That's 30 50 hours of standby receiving emails, txts and what not. Nothing to complain there.
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reboot fixed my stay awake problem
by stay awake he means no lockscreen/passcode/slide to unlock
blickmanic said:
reboot fixed my stay awake problem
by stay awake he means no lockscreen/passcode/slide to unlock
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That's not what he means. Reread his 2nd paragraph.
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Click on settings then about phone then battery use then at the top of that screen there should be a set of numbers saying how long the battery has been used since the last charge, click that an it displays a graph , on the graph page it shows when the phone is "awake" by awake I mean the screen is off the phone should be in standby mode but its being acessed by something i.e a program , like its woken up to perform some action. Anyway im wondering if anyone elses phone is awake randomly when the screen in off and in standby mode. When I factory reset I neget had this issue but its after installing apps I think or some setting im missing any ideas
I have the same problem. My Xperia Arc is "awake" all the time. Screen is locked, turned off but in battery usage I see that the phone is awake even with screen off. The culprit seems to be the native messaging app as it consumes the most battery. I'm not sure what is going on, what is the messaging app doing or which process is using it.
Any ideas anyone?
I'm on CM7.1 stable. Haven't had battery issues for a while, but starting a few days ago I've been getting rapid drain with heating. Battery use screen shows that the phone is awake most of the time the screen is off, but it doesn't reveal which app keeps waking it up. I also tried Spare Parts to see if any app is hogging the partial wake lock, but nothing seems to account for it.
Any other ideas on how to trace it? Must've been an app that updated in the past 3-4 days.
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Just to show how this looks, here is a screenshot of the battery screen.
Notice that I put the phone in airplane mode for the past hour as I was writing an exam, yet it still appears awake with screen off. The phone was warm when I retrieved it after an hour of the radios being off! Something is seriously wrong here.
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I can only guess it is an application or service keeping your phone from going to deep sleep- also known as "partial wake lock" or something like that...
What to do? You can probably nail the culprit using some application like BetterBatteryStats (Market it, or look for it at xda's app thread- it is somewhere here). It will help you find who/what is keeping the phone awake.
I think that Battery Monitor Widget can also give you similar info.
You may need some help in the BBS thread to help you interpret the results as they are not always obvious or easy to tell who's the problem.
Right. What's confusing me is that nothing in the partial wake lock list is showing more than about 10 minutes of lock time, yet the phone gets stuck awake for more than a solid hour of screen off time.
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I think I figured it out. I had a trigger set up in Tasker that resets the phone's data connection every time it crashes out with an error (and my carrier WIND Mobile does this quite frequently). On days when the battery was constantly draining, it may have been because the network was particularly error-prone and my trigger therefore kept going off. And each time it went off, Tasker must have flipped the phone into awake mode.
I've turned off the trigger for now, to see if it stops draining.
I'm looking for best practices and successes rather than commiseration.
I'm running JuiceDefender on aggressive and still not getting more than a day of use (3g+BT off, wifi 2hrs, screen time 3hrs).
If you've managed to get some kind of improvement, please share what you did and how much of a difference it made.
I've installed betterbatterystats and saw that trillian causes a hell of a lot of wakelocks, so I've disabled that. My battery usage graph is much smoother and less steep but I can't put any numbers on it.
PickleHead said:
I've installed betterbatterystats and saw that trillian causes a hell of a lot of wakelocks, so I've disabled that. My battery usage graph is much smoother and less steep but I can't put any numbers on it.
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Thanks for this. I found out that it was the Smarter Alarm app, which was activating hundreds of times an hour and preventing my phone from going into deep sleep (this app wasn't a problem on my Desire HD, just on the Note).
Here is a shot of BetterBatteryStats showing 4hrs of non-deep sleep followed by 8hrs of deep sleep:
http://i.imgur.com/pXXD3.jpg
And here is the battery graph. You can see in the top left how even when the screen and services were off, the battery was still falling at an unusual rate:
http://i.imgur.com/fjSKi.jpg
An aside: JuiceDefender didn't prevent this from happening, but did heat up the phone noticably. I've since turned it off.
randomstranger99 said:
I'm looking for best practices and successes rather than commiseration.
I'm running JuiceDefender on aggressive and still not getting more than a day of use (3g+BT off, wifi 2hrs, screen time 3hrs).
If you've managed to get some kind of improvement, please share what you did and how much of a difference it made.
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How long have you had it? Remember that it takes a week or two before the battery reaches its full capacity.
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How long have you had it? Remember that it takes a week or two before the battery reaches its full capacity.
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I've had it 11 days. My battery life has been all over the map, anywhere from 8hrs to 55hrs, depending on usage and wakelock activity. My one-day limit started about four days ago.
randomstranger99 said:
Thanks for this. I found out that it was the Smarter Alarm app, which was activating hundreds of times an hour and preventing my phone from going into deep sleep (this app wasn't a problem on my Desire HD, just on the Note).
Here is a shot of BetterBatteryStats showing 4hrs of non-deep sleep followed by 8hrs of deep sleep:
http://i.imgur.com/pXXD3.jpg
And here is the battery graph. You can see in the top left how even when the screen and services were off, the battery was still falling at an unusual rate:
http://i.imgur.com/fjSKi.jpg
An aside: JuiceDefender didn't prevent this from happening, but did heat up the phone noticably. I've since turned it off.
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from my understanding of how juice defender works, i believe it closes off non-essential background apps to save battery?
the problem with this is that if the app is designed to remain running at all times, then youre only going to cause problems when running juice defender. juice defender will close the app, the app will reopen itself, juice defender will close the app, the app will reopen itself, etc. its a reboot loop for the app, which will end up draining more battery than simply leaving the background process running.
i dont recommend using any app killers. they all do the same thing and just end up chewing through your battery more. if you want to really disable an app, use titanium background to freeze it.
Google services is to battery consumer because it keeps phone awake. Something to do with location services causing it based on screenshot below. I'm latest nightly CM and seems to be the only one affected by this issue since nobody else complained about it
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Same crap here as well. As u can see I'm on a totally different device. There was another thread on it with no solution I think.
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Turn network location off. You really don't need it on all the time. That's the only way I know of getting rid of that wake lock.
I just realized. Location reporting turned itself back on, on maps app
I turned it back off. Will see if that helps.
When it was off I'd probably get 1min of that wakelock for the entire day.
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mibtnt said:
I just realized. Location reporting turned itself back on, on maps app
I turned it back off. Will see if that helps.
When it was off I'd probably get 1min of that wakelock for the entire day.
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If its of from boot, I don't get any.
jd1639 said:
Turn network location off. You really don't need it on all the time. That's the only way I know of getting rid of that wake lock.
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x-actly.
NLP stands for Network Location Provider I would guess as it appeared to me first when Google Location Services asked me to switch on the WLAN location detection for "more accurate results".
Might be helpful if in some building where you don't get GPS locked but isn't really needed that much otherwise.
i have location access OFF and have HUGE DRAIN on Nlpwakelock
I had a similar problem on my Nexus4 - after I turned location services on and off again, the NlpWakelock would keep my phone awake and not go to deep sleep.
However, I found a fix for this issue. The culprit service is called GoogleLocationManagerService, and the solution is to disable this service only (I have no idea what other complications may arise from this, but at least my phone now goes to deep sleep). This service can be disabled with ROM Toolbox or a similar app.
In ROM Toolbox you go to App Manager, find Google Play Services and select Advanced Freeze. Now find the service (has a red border) called GoogleLocationManagerService and disable it. Now I can switch on and off location and still go to deep sleep, and location IS working.
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I had a similar problem on my Nexus4 - after I turned location services on and off again, the NlpWakelock would keep my phone awake and not go to deep sleep.
However, I found a fix for this issue. The culprit service is called GoogleLocationManagerService, and the solution is to disable this service only (I have no idea what other complications may arise from this, but at least my phone now goes to deep sleep). This service can be disabled with ROM Toolbox or a similar app.
In ROM Toolbox you go to App Manager, find Google Play Services and select Advanced Freeze. Now find the service (has a red border) called GoogleLocationManagerService and disable it. Now I can switch on and off location and still go to deep sleep, and location IS working.
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i've been searching for a solution for ages and even followed the advice of another thread to disable location finding on both maps and google now and for some reason the nlpwakelock is still showing up. i'm going to try your fix but i was wondering if you've encountered any issues ever since disable googlelocationmanagerservice?
I often noticed nlpwakelock being the main culprit for Google Services battery usage. I even saw that it kept my phone awake for hours some days...
I tested some fixes and found that disabling the "use wireless networks" in the location services settings completely removed that wakelock.
Personally, I'd rather have that feature than save the little battery it uses. Despite keeping my phone awake for 1-2 hours on most days, as reported by GSAM Battery Monitor and Wakelock Detector, it uses a pretty small amount of battery:
Typically my phone's battery monitor will report about 20-30% of the battery used by Google Services. GSAM Battery Monitor seems to break that down into two parts: about 10% Google Services and 15% kernel, on average. However, these numbers are deceiving. That 10% that Google Services is only 10% of "App Usage" as reported by GSAM. Furthermore, App Usage is often only about 50% of my battery usage.
If my battery is at 50%, that means Apps only usage 50% * 50% = 25% of my 100% battery. Then, Google Services only used 10% of that 25%...so 2.5% of my overall battery capacity. I found this quite surprising considering the report that the wakelock keeps my phone awake for 1-2 hours...
So while Google Services is often shown as my #1 or #2 battery user in the App Sucker page, at 10-15% usually, that's only like 2-5% of the total 100% battery capacity each day. If I'm really going to be pushing my battery limits I might disable it to save some juice, but generally I find it's not worth disabling the feature to save such a small portion of my battery.
ender127 said:
i've been searching for a solution for ages and even followed the advice of another thread to disable location finding on both maps and google now and for some reason the nlpwakelock is still showing up. i'm going to try your fix but i was wondering if you've encountered any issues ever since disable googlelocationmanagerservice?
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Hi. No, I've not had any issues,*but unfortunately the fix doesn't always work - but if the wakelock still persists, shutting down the service or location service again removes the wakelock, but it takes the manuel action of re-disabling the service again. Still better than having a wakelock though..
So I just figure I'll ask about this, but I have a feeling people will suggest I wipe and I just don't have time to do that anytime soon... But it appears that my screen is absolutely destroying my battery life. I keep the screen off whenever I'm not using the phone, but just now in 6hours on battery i'm down to 69% and 57% of it is all screen. The next biggest is 11% on Android OS. Just doesn't seem normal right? Any ideas?
Screen wil always be at the top of the battery list in Settings, if it is not there is something seriously wrong.
One thing you need to understand; the percentage listed there is not the actual percentage of drain. It's how much of the actual percentage is caused by those apps/systems/hardware.
So 57% screen means that of the total drain, 57% is caused by the screen. The total drain is not 57%.
Try using BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector to find out what is really draining your battery. You can find them here on XDA, and on Google Play.
Do you have autosync on? What wallpaper? Location services?
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All my syncing is on yea, just a plain wallpaper, not a live one, and I have Access to my location and use Wireless Networks checked in location services. GPS is off whenever I'm not using navigation. I'll check out those apps. someone else suggested batterydoctor so I'm playing with that one right now, not that it's really telling me anything except to kill apps, which I know is against the general consensus on these boards (killing apps manually)... And of course it says to turn my brightness down or to auto, which I don't even like the phone when it's not on full brightness so that's a no go.