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So, yes I searched around, and got close answers, but nothing that answers my ?'s exactly. About to root for 1st time, and then install CM, but before I start to mess with my phone at all, I want to back it up COMPLETELY...i.e. contacts, apps, app settings, dxtop homescreen shortcuts + colors, etc. etc. etc. And then, if I mess up root, how do I start over and re-install everything?
Also, once I root, will everything will be gone from my phone? I saw a thread @ androidcommunities saying yes, but is there anyway to "backup" the apps on my SD? Then copy the files SD -> computer? I don't want to install each app 1 by 1 again...And through my searchings, I'm afraid you're going to say "I have to", and if that's the case, and use apps2sd, will I EVER have to download apps 1 by 1 again?
4thephil said:
So, yes I searched around, and got close answers, but nothing that answers my ?'s exactly. About to root for 1st time, and then install CM, but before I start to mess with my phone at all, I want to back it up COMPLETELY...i.e. contacts, apps, app settings, dxtop homescreen shortcuts + colors, etc. etc. etc. And then, if I mess up root, how do I start over and re-install everything?
Also, once I root, will everything will be gone from my phone? I saw a thread @ androidcommunities saying yes, but is there anyway to "backup" the apps on my SD? Then copy the files SD -> computer? I don't want to install each app 1 by 1 again...And through my searchings, I'm afraid you're going to say "I have to", and if that's the case, and use apps2sd, will I EVER have to download apps 1 by 1 again?
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Even if you backup your apps, you'll still have to reinstall them one by one from your backup. The Market has apps that can help backup your apps to apk formats. MyBackup Pro will backup app settings and shortcuts afaik, but it isn't free. Why worry about backing up contacts, they're sync'd with your gmail account.
thanks! do you recall what app backs my apps into an apk? and then what do i do from there?
agh, 100 apps, 1 by 1, wowsers...theres gotta be a better way?
4thephil said:
thanks! do you recall what app backs my apps into an apk? and then what do i do from there?
agh, 100 apps, 1 by 1, wowsers...theres gotta be a better way?
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How the hell do you fit 100 apps in an unrooted G1? Mine was full at the high 30's.
You can use AppManager.
I have AppManager, looking at AppManager Pro with batch install. However, last time my phone pooped on me (when updating to 1.5 with Dark Keys installed), I had to hard reset. App Manager installed all my apps. However, I had to go back and do it again 1 by 1 because the Market didn't recognize that my apps were installed when I re-installed through AppManager.
Is this problem fixed? Or is there a fix to this?
P.S. 113 apps (including default ones) installed
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I have AppManager, looking at AppManager Pro with batch install. However, last time my phone pooped on me (when updating to 1.5 with Dark Keys installed), I had to hard reset. App Manager installed all my apps. However, I had to go back and do it again 1 by 1 because the Market didn't recognize that my apps were installed when I re-installed through AppManager.
Is this problem fixed? Or is there a fix to this?
P.S. 113 apps (including default ones) installed
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You can't get around that, Market only shows INSTALLED if installed through Market. Doesn't mean you can't use the app. If you need to keep up with updates, use aTrackdog with AppManager.
Arg, lame! But thanks for your prompt replies (I'm about to root right now)...
I guess my last question is, once I root and can install Nandroid, or Backup for Root, will I have to install 1 by 1 ever again, to make Market recognize apps? Or do these root programs backup the phone to be EXACTLY as it was when backup was made?
4thephil said:
Arg, lame! But thanks for your prompt replies (I'm about to root right now)...
I guess my last question is, once I root and can install Nandroid, or Backup for Root, will I have to install 1 by 1 ever again, to make Market recognize apps? Or do these root programs backup the phone to be EXACTLY as it was when backup was made?
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Market won't recognize installed apps unless install by Market, PERIOD. Nandroid backs up exactly the state of the phone, while Backup for Root can do individual things like SMS, Shortcuts, Data of apps, etc.
Backup for Root does have a check mark for "Market db", but I've never found it to work.
So, the bottom line, is that most rooted users don't use the market to update apps? They use AppManager/aTrackdog, because every time they restore, it would uninstall apps and market wouldn't recognize?
Use My backup Pro to back up your apps. After you root install adb on your computer, go to the application and games section and look for a thread XDA app pack 1.4 to batch install your apps. Use aTrackDog to keep up w/ updates. The market will no longer show them when you install off market. It will show them again after you update your apps (not all just the ones you update).
EDIT: copy app file from SD card (MyBackupPro) into XDA app pack folder to batch install
Apaca1ypse said:
Use My backup Pro to back up your apps. After you root install adb on your computer, go to the application and games section and look for a thread XDA app pack 1.4 to batch install your apps. Use aTrackDog to keep up w/ updates. The market will no longer show them when you install off market. It will show them again after you update your apps (not all just the ones you update).
EDIT: copy app file from SD card (MyBackupPro) into XDA app pack folder to batch install
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would AppManager Pro do this same thing exactly (batch install)?
4thephil said:
would AppManager Pro do this same thing exactly (batch install)?
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Yes, but if you use adb you can back up and restore your private apps No app on the market can do that.
Im using Titainiam backup (free version), is there anyway to back up all apps/SMS/contacts/other data with just 1 click? From what I can find you have to select each 1 seperatly?
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About...3 clicks. Menu -> Batch and from there select the one that fits your needs the best.
Quick question re Titanium Backup.... It says it needs "ROOT", does this mean it will not work with a non-rooted system??
I'm using the standard Orange, non-messed with Android (which I'm quite happy with), can I still use Titanium Backup?
you need root access...
L0gan said:
you need root access...
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Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
Riceburner said:
Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
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You can try Mybackup Pro
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
Hello, sprite backup ( latest version compatible with Gingerbreak ) save and restore contacts,calendar ... even if you have an unrooted phone ( mine is unrooted and i've restored contacts successfully ) .
shaithis said:
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
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Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
GoSMS Pro will do this for you. I mnow it is a whole seperate SMS app, but it is a guaranteed way for it to work, and doesn't take long. And you might find you like it for SMS anyway
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i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
Hi Riceburner
Riceburner said:
Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
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You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
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Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
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What is stuck in root?
When ever a App tries to gain Root Access for the first time Superuser will appear on your screen and Ask if you what to give the App Root Permission or not, and whether to remember the permissions that are given [the default is remember].
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I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
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True.
ok, cheers.
Mind you - it's all academic anyway because I have no idea when (or even if) I'll be getting the update. Still seem to be stuck on 1.84.61.2 (as far as I can see). Orange aren't known for their speed on software upgrades.
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
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You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
so this is a no go then
Hi springy
springy said:
You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
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Yes I am sure of what I wrote, I did not say anything about data being stored.
I do not know about what MyBackUp can and can not do.
Titanium BackUp can back up all Apps and Data. [data can not be restore to a different Rom though]
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Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
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Do you a CWM installed, if so you could try booting in to recovery, and use the fix permissions to see if it helps to clear the problem with SU.
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Hi jaggysnake
jaggysnake said:
so this is a no go then
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Are you talking to yourself?
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With the many different GB roms coming out, I find myself wanting to try them all. The only thing holding me back is the setup time after I install a ROM. I use to use Titanium Backup to restore all my apps/data/home screens, and it worked great......except for something was causing the endless sync icon because it was restoring some old system files.
My question is this: What does everyone use to restore as much of their data/apps as possible? I know I can continue to use Titanium, just for restoring apps, but I wanted to try to see if there was any better solution out there.
Thanks for any help
You could try mybackup pro. It will restore pretty much everything for you
With Titanium only choose the option to restore "Applications and Data" Do NOT choose System files. Trust me, I know personally the sync icon. You can find my adventures here:
I almost started a new topic until I saw this. I'm on liberty 2.0.1 (donated), and I'm waiting for an official gingerbread release. anyway, I always use bootstrap clockwork mod to make a backup and then TB pro for app + app data backup / restore.
that always works great and my flashes to other ROMS would be smooth EXCEPT, when I flash I no longer have TB pro. I need to re-download it from the market. no problem - except I have like 100 apps and I can't say "hey just download TB pro". so, I gotta wait like 15 minutes for market to quit downloading **** before I can use TB to restore right over it.. sorta redundant and really slow. any suggestions?
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I'll say this again, the application mybackup pro will do all the data and apps that you need. And you do not have to sit there and install them all. It will just do it
Well paid tb does it all for you to and imo works awsome although I havent tried mybackup... Jmoney does it do that for you on free version if so that would def be lookin into for someone who hasnt purchased tb
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i dont think you understand my q:
it seems that the mybackup pro does the same thing as TB pro. I don't have to manually do each one. I paid for pro so it can do a batch restore without my intervention. either way though, after you flash roms, you need to re-download mybackup pro or TB pro before you can restore you backups. but when you have 100+ apps trying to download at the same time, it takes 20 minutes to get your mybackup pro or TB pro. then you have to reinstall your backups over the fresh installs thatt the market just did.
its extremely annoying. if I don't sync with my Google account the market doesn't go all nuts, but then I can't download TB pro or mybackup...
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I guess you could uncheck the option under Settings/Privacy "Back up my data". That way the market won't go nuts with all the re-installs and you can just install TB and do your restore.
How about this:
Using root explorer, go to data/app/ whatever it is saved as, you'll see the icon, and copy it to somewhere on your sd card. Then, all you have to do is use the file manager that is on every rom to navigate to it and install it. That way, you don't have to use the market
i'm really getting tired of redoing my info every time i try a new rom... i know froyo is supposed to be able to back up user info but it seems we dont' get that option from sammy. i always back up my apps with titanium but what about the contact list, phone settings, passwords, bookmarks, etc... something that would transfer between roms
mybackup root.
Umm...nandroid? Do a backup and flash rom, then do a selective restore and only restore data. works everytime for me except when downgrading gingerbread back to froyo. Other than that I occasionally use mybackup root
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Umm...nandroid? Do a backup and flash rom, then do a selective restore and only restore data. works everytime for me except when downgrading gingerbread back to froyo. Other than that I occasionally use mybackup root
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+This, and I suggest not to move any apps you download to system/app, or else you'll have to restore system to get those back, and it causes problems.
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zanderman112 said:
+This, and I suggest not to move any apps you download to system/app, or else you'll have to restore system to get those back, and it causes problems.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
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would that include appwidgetpicker? i think that has to be placed in system/apps to run
murso74 said:
would that include appwidgetpicker? i think that has to be placed in system/apps to run
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No but just keep a copy on your sd card. It's the one exception.
I know its a pain but a fresh Install us always the best. I use an app called "appbak" and its so easy. U backup your apps and its just like a text file. Then u restore them and it gives you all your Apps in a list. U for down the list one by one and when you click on the app it will take u directly to that app in the market. Then u just download it. Its pretty fast and it gives u a fresh Install. Then ill use titanium to restore some data for some if my apps.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect!" Louie Simmons
musclehead84 said:
I know its a pain but a fresh Install us always the best. I use an app called "appbak" and its so easy. U backup your apps and its just like a text file. Then u restore them and it gives you all your Apps in a list. U for down the list one by one and when you click on the app it will take u directly to that app in the market. Then u just download it. Its pretty fast and it gives u a fresh Install. Then ill use titanium to restore some data for some if my apps.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect!" Louie Simmons
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i do that with titanium.. i long click the app and press go to market. then i download it from there. installing apps from titanium always seems to lock up. its really the phone settings and addressbook that i'm interested in at this point. i'm sick of adding my accounts, deleting unwanted contacts, changing notifications settings etc, etc
murso74 said:
i'm sick of adding my accounts, deleting unwanted contacts, changing notifications settings etc, etc
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I haven't found a good way around having to enter my gmail account info each time (especially since I've been going back and forth between froyo and GB roms so nandroid backup isn't a good option) but I do keep my contacts organized in gmail, not on the phone, so whenever I do flash a new rom, it just automatically syncs the contacts and I never have to worry about them.
Titanium backup is the best for me.
Art2Fly said:
mybackup root.
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My Backup wouldn't restore the last backup I made with it, even though the files on the SDcard were fine.
I've switched to Titanium root and it's been reliable so far.
titanium backup pro works. It might restore some older not needed apps but you can take them out later. You can take out any app or info even system apps, info, data.
Sim2 said:
My Backup wouldn't restore the last backup I made with it, even though the files on the SDcard were fine.
I've switched to Titanium root and it's been reliable so far.
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My Backup has never successfully restored anything for me. Titanium has been perfect and I've been using it since I got this phone nearly a year ago, though it doesn't do SMS so I also use SMS Backup & Restore, a little freebie from the market which so far has worked well (though I've only tried it a few times).
I agree, Titanium Pro works great. I too also use SMS Backup & Restore for text messages.
Clockwork Mod does all that and then some. Just do a backup in clockwork, install new rom, go back into clockwork/backup&restore/ advanced restore/ and restore data only. It will restore all contacts/texts/picture mail/logins/passwords/apps+app data, etc, all data that doesnt interfere with the new rom.
i am being flashing different Roms all the time to try out various Roms, but everytime i flash the rom by full wipe, iam having nightmare in restoring all the apps. i have around 200 apps and i also have the titanium backup, but as everyone know i have to press install 200 times to restore all the apps. it is making me crazy.
i want to know how u guys addressing this, is there any way out or have to live with this nightmare
Latest market or android version sync your market apps when you launch market the first time. At least it did that for me stock kl7. But DON'T go to your downloads open market and press back leave the apps to get installed from notification bar if you press my downloads after a few you get a error saying you don't have space on your phone and if it stops once forget to continue it later they disappear so if you fail with it. code factory reset it and try again it is faster. Done 4 or 5 till i succeed. But works on market apps only rest manually.
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Buy titanium backup pro. Installs everything automatically. I think astro file manager has a backup feature for free.
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intruda119 said:
Buy titanium backup pro. Installs everything automatically. I think astro file manager has a backup feature for free.
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A backup. You said you made a reset for a reason. If not then titanium is ok
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Braxos said:
A backup. You said you made a reset for a reason. If not then titanium is ok
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What?
sunshine76 said:
i am being flashing different Roms all the time to try out various Roms, but everytime i flash the rom by full wipe, iam having nightmare in restoring all the apps. i have around 200 apps and i also have the titanium backup, but as everyone know i have to press install 200 times to restore all the apps. it is making me crazy.
i want to know how u guys addressing this, is there any way out or have to live with this nightmare
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Are you talking about apps from your myapp list in the market? Or apps from titanium backup? If you have free version, you will have to install apps manually. If you have titanium pro, it will install all 200 apps automatically with no user input.