[Q] first impression, Qs about Acer A501 - Acer Iconia A500

Hello folks,
My father-in-law showed up to visit with an Acer A501 in hand. He was challenged in getting it to work according to his needs, so I offered to take a look...
His "needs":
Google Voice via WiFi for "telephone" operations
Skype video conferencing (with front-facing cam)
Light Email usage
Netflix / Pandora
I was baffled that:
Google Voice (and various other things I expected to see) were missing from Market
Skype installed, but without video support from either cam
Netflix didn't show up in the Market either...
Bluetooth paired to a Plantronics Voyager Pro headset, but wouldn't see the Headset or Handsfree profiles offered by the device... WTF?
...the internal mic seemed nearly-worthless at first use
BTW, shortly after connecting it to WiFi, the Acer proposed downloading an update (v4.0.something - about ~370MB). The WiFi kept dropping and I had to set it to never disconnect to the update.
Unfortunately, the update didn't address any of the issues above. I suspect these are by brain-dead-design, rather than any inherent limitations of the hardware or of Honeycomb, but finding out what's up with this is why I'm posting here... I did search a bit and browse this Acer forum, but I confess to running out of time and I apologize for missing the answers if they're up here.
So, what's up with all this? Will I be able to work-around these things with a custom ROM sans Acer-or-Google-imposed limitations?
Thanks!

bmeek said:
Google Voice (and various other things I expected to see) were missing from Market
Skype installed, but without video support from either cam
Netflix didn't show up in the Market either...
Bluetooth paired to a Plantronics Voyager Pro headset, but wouldn't see the Headset or Handsfree profiles offered by the device... WTF?
...the internal mic seemed nearly-worthless at first use
--SNIP--
So, what's up with all this? Will I be able to work-around these things with a custom ROM sans Acer-or-Google-imposed limitations?
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These limitations aren't either Google's nor Acer's design. It's Skype who has decided not to support video, it's part of this marketing campaign in the US where only a select carriers' phones will get videocalling in Skype. Similarly, Netflix is doing exactly the same thing, that's why it's only designed to work on a selected set of devices.
Apparently Netflix can be made to work on A500 though, haven't seen anyone being successful with regards to Skype.

Well
No Skype support for video calls. This is due to Skype, not Acer.
Netflix has not added support for the a500 yet - but we have a work around that enables it and allows you to watch video - you will need to root your Iconia first, however.
Netflix patch for Iconica : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116393&page=5
root for Iconia (assuming your ota update gave you 3.1): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
Pandora should work just fine with no Modding.
Hope that helps.

entropy.of.avarice said:
No Skype support for video calls. This is due to Skype, not Acer.
Netflix has not added support for the a500 yet - but we have a work around that enables it and allows you to watch video - you will need to root your Iconia first, however.
Netflix patch for Iconica : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116393&page=5
root for Iconia (assuming your ota update gave you 3.1): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
Pandora should work just fine with no Modding.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the answers. I gathered that about Skype - lack of video being their choice and treating the tab like a simple smart phone...
My suspicions of "by-design limitations" were bolstered by the elusiveness of Google Voice (I did find the posts about getting that working , and the annoying fact that with default browser settings the tablet is seen as a mobile phone and gets limited page views... Why GV doesn't show in the Market, after all this time (I saw some rather old posts about this and other Honeycomb tabs), still has me wondering.
Thanks again.

bmeek said:
Thanks for the answers. I gathered that about Skype - lack of video being their choice and treating the tab like a simple smart phone...
My suspicions of "by-design limitations" were bolstered by the elusiveness of Google Voice (I did find the posts about getting that working , and the annoying fact that with default browser settings the tablet is seen as a mobile phone and gets limited page views... Why GV doesn't show in the Market, after all this time (I saw some rather old posts about this and other Honeycomb tabs), still has me wondering.
Thanks again.
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In your browser, click the icon in the top right corner, select "settings" then "advanced" and you can change the view mode from mobile to desktop. Also most mobile sites will have a link to switch the session from mobile to full.
Welcome! Glad to help always.

acer a501 update
just like to let everyone know that acer a501 ics update is now ready for download
downloaded it myself here in australia 15 mins ago. fast and stable and looks great

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SiriusXM Alternative App?

I've tried the C-Apsiro app and it works fine my only complaint is the music is kind of low compared to the windows media player on the phone and the tf3d music player we used to have starplayr as a alternative app but it either discontinued or started charging a fee.
is there a official siriusxm radio app out there? or any alternatives?
i've also tried the siriuswm5 app in the sticky but that doesnt connect on my tp2 and the channel list is out dated. any others?
deadwrong03 said:
I've tried the C-Apsiro app and it works fine my only complaint is the music is kind of low compared to the windows media player on the phone and the tf3d music player we used to have starplayr as a alternative app but it either discontinued or started charging a fee.
is there a official siriusxm radio app out there? or any alternatives?
i've also tried the siriuswm5 app in the sticky but that doesnt connect on my tp2 and the channel list is out dated. any others?
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SiriusWM5 might not be connecting today, because no online apps are working now, including the Official Iphone App. It appears Sirius is re-working all of their online content and only the Official Sirius Webpage is running now. I've confirmed that SiriusWM5, C-Aspiro, Iphone and uSirius are not working.
Dwight2001
I have used the SiriusWM5 app for quite sometime. I was not aware of other apps for Sirius out there. Can you post any links? I will search too.
Dwight2001 said:
SiriusWM5 might not be connecting today, because no online apps are working now, including the Official Iphone App. It appears Sirius is re-working all of their online content and only the Official Sirius Webpage is running now. I've confirmed that SiriusWM5, C-Aspiro, Iphone and uSirius are not working.
Dwight2001
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c aspiro apps works for me im using it right now
sirius wm5
hello, are there any fixes to get siriuswm5 working again?
CONFIRMED: How to get your SIRIUS fix...
I just about started pulling my hair out in clumps, but I finally found a solution.
If you have the iPhone:
Pocket Tunes Radio: http://www.pocket-tunes.com/
** Not sure if it does Stern, but definitely does SiriusXM on the iPhone, no Windows Mobile SiriusXM Support **
If you have a SmartPhone/Windows Mobile (non-touchscreen, including BlackJack II, which I have)
SelectRadio: http://www.selectradio.com/
** Developer released a fix that is essentially a DLL overwrite. This method works! Delivers 32 and 128 streams, Howard is back in my car! DOESN'T REQUIRE CAPTCHA AND SAVES YOUR LOGIN / PASS!!!**
If you have a PPC (or Windows Mobile Touchscreen)
C-ApiSRO: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=26310
** Developer did a 11/16 release that for now fixes the issue **
Of course, you always have the SiriusXM App for the iPhone, but no Howard Stern. I for one am personally highly upset that SiriusXM is making such a stupid move by overlooking cell phone internet users for their service. If they keep trying to sell those stupid radios, it's going to be over for them quickly.
SelectRadio has a 10-Day Trial, then you have to buy. Tewnty-five bucks, but weigh that against what the program can do and that the cheapest SiriusXM radio in the stores is about $60. Not to mention the app uses low resources (infinitely better than the Skyfire workaround) and also does XM and about a bajillion other stations. Well worth $25 to me, especially since my BlackJack II can go from speaker (which is pretty loud) to car casette adapter to headphones to line-in to pretty much any audio system... No Stiletto or portable they make will EVER do all of that.
And for the record, I am in no way affiliated with the maker of any of these apps, I just was freaking out looking for a good solution and finally found a few, including one that has me listening again. I preferred SiriusWM5, but oh well...
At least I'm listening the way I want to.
SelectRadio has a touchscreen version. The C-ApiSRO app is primarily touchscreen. The latest version should be in the post.
I used SelectRadio all the way home on my drive (30+ miles). Worked like a charm. SiriusWM5 was usually 51K bitrate. Got a solid 128K this time .
Give it a whirl. I doubt you'll be let down. The interface is a little clunky at first, but you get used to it pretty quickly.
C-ApiSRO latest is from May of this year. The 11-16 date was in 2008 Been using it for a while w/ no issues, works decent if your connection is good.
~Eric
Oops, I said May, it was March *sigh*
v2.0.5 March 19th 2009, which I think is the only zip. I was using it for the last 6 weeks (including yesterday) with no issues.
~Eric
This goes deeper than we may notice.
I was able to login and start streaming on my desktop today, so online is not an issue.
SiriusWM5 stopped working on my (hacked) Tilt. (I know this is a Rhodium forum, but the app is the same, right?)
I had my laptop tethered thru my Tilt using Internet Sharing. I was not able to get anything streaming thru the tethering.
I was able to access the Sirius player and get things playing through SkyFire though. Clunky, but it did play.
It makes me wonder if they detected the IP as a mobile one and that is also part of the problem, not just the coding of the app?
Mike The Apeman said:
This goes deeper than we may notice.
I was able to login and start streaming on my desktop today, so online is not an issue.
SiriusWM5 stopped working on my (hacked) Tilt. (I know this is a Rhodium forum, but the app is the same, right?)
I had my laptop tethered thru my Tilt using Internet Sharing. I was not able to get anything streaming thru the tethering.
I was able to access the Sirius player and get things playing through SkyFire though. Clunky, but it did play.
It makes me wonder if they detected the IP as a mobile one and that is also part of the problem, not just the coding of the app?
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No. Not unless your cell company is blacklisting the traffic, in which case skyfire would not let you log on. Debunked.
The problem is that the infrastructure of the player is totally different now. It's still using MD5 for encrypting pass to the server, etc. But the stream targets have changed. This was done by XM's dev team. I actually made a phone call to product dev in NY and they confirmed it. They also simply said that 3rd party app support isn't in the cards, and that they are "working on" a player. Whatever, meh.
But anyway, stop trying to use Sirius WM5. Not only is the channel list out of date in the CAB, the code is trying to grab the captcha and stream from the wrong place. SelectRadio works. And, it gives you the 128k stream. If you have a touchscreen device, try C-ApiSRO. Most are reporting success with it.
mlevin77 said:
> C-ApiSRO app is primarily touchscreen. The latest version should be in the
I got an am using v2.0.5. It says connected ok (password etc.) but won't play - says "unable to load channel"; any ideas?
> I used SelectRadio all the way home on my drive (30+ miles).
that one says "no login server or bad login" next to a little green icon of a radio tower, even though I'm using the same username/password that works fine from a desktop browser. It claims it knows what's playing on each one (has a song title scrolling), but no sound coming.
What am I doing wrong?!? Do they have a support link? I can't find one on their website.
thanks,
Mike
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I've noticed that sometimes SelectRadio does this, but mainly because the initial connect is timing out. The tower can be red, and I still get it. Just pick another channel, then go back to the channel you want. It will usually work fine after that. I've only had to restart the app once, mainly because AT&T sucks total ass and drops my WAP connection.
Also, make sure you put the username and password for your Sirius account in before you try a channel. Sirius customers that have the premium internet account should hear best of XM channels, but the XM tab will not work. That obviously requires an XM internet account.
Can't use the default file explorer. If you do, the tun.dll you drop in the folder will be named "tun.dll.". It will not get the extension right. I had to install, then browse to the folder using a program called The Tool (http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/File-Manager/The-Tool-Smartphone-84530.shtml) and delete the existing dll file. Then, I copy/pasted the new dll file into the folder. Voila, working.
Try that. I had more or less the same problem you are describing. The dll file being in the wrong place was the culprit. Oh, and you may want to install directly to the device instead of an SD card. I think the access time of the SD card can make WinMo progs act wierd sometimes.
The nag screen is a pain, but I plan on purchasing a key tomorrow (payday). SiriusWM5 using Windows Media Player Mobile worked fairly well, but SelectRadio is holding onto the connection a bit better. Either that, or it buffers the stream more. Trust me, I am horrendously picky when it comes to my apps, and this thing will inevitably work for you.
Let me know what happens...
hyde0429 said:
But anyway, stop trying to use Sirius WM5. Not only is the channel list out of date in the CAB, the code is trying to grab the captcha and stream from the wrong place. SelectRadio works. And, it gives you the 128k stream. If you have a touchscreen device, try C-ApiSRO. Most are reporting success with it.
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C-ApiSRO is broken as well. The only one that seems to be working now is SelectRadio. This is just plain dumb that none of the free apps are working now thanks to a move on the server side at Sirius.
I think CardonWare (SelectRadio dev company) has posted a newly updated version that takes care of the dll issue. You may want to uninstall everything and start over.
I did a TrialPay and chose Rhapsody 14 day trial. Got a key for SelectRadio, then cancelled the Rhapsody trial.
Total cost? ZERO... POINT... ZERO .
Oh, and I have noticed some random errors in grabbing some Sirius channels. E-Street Radio for example can't connect at the moment. Random wierdness. But Howard 100 and most other channels I try are fine. Experiment heavily.
Alright, I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 and can't for the life of me figure out how to get Sirius or XM working on Select Radio, I continue to receive the 'no connection to stream server' error. Anyone else encounter this and if so, anything you could point me towards?
Thanks!
Thanks all, selectradio is working right now on my sprint touch pro 2, listening to howard right now.
I did have to exit the app and start it again, then enter my user login etc. and it started right up at 128kbs. so far does evrything siriuswm5 did. wish it had a screen toggle on/off feature.
above poster, some screens were slow to load at first when i started clicking to the sirius tab then channel 100, i know i missed the login page and it seemed to freeze after that, i exited then reopened and went slower, now it works on my sprint touch pro 2, hope it helps, should work for you.
Sirius WM6 to the rescue!
works post-sirius-fiddling and no more captcha!
http://forums.geekstoolbox.com/showthread.php?t=25946
Works great. Hey Now!!! Thanks
I have noticed that some of the channels don't work, and some may be missing, apparently because the channels.txt file (in the player's install folder) has dated info in it. This can be fixed by editing that file in pocket word and saving as plain text, of on a PC with notepad and copying back over the original.
As an example, Playboy radio would not work.
If you log in to the Sirius online with a PC and start a channel in the player, the URL for that channel looks like:
. . . .sirius.com/player/listen/play.action?channelKey=playboyradio&genreKey=sirentertainment&categoryKey=cattalk&stopped=no
The section in the channels.txt for Playboy radio looked like this:
99 | Playboy Radio
playboyradio
playboyradio
cattalk
when it SHOULD have looked like:
99 | Playboy Radio
playboyradio
sirentertainment
cattalk
So you can see how you can repair broken or missing channels by first using the Sirius browser radio to get the keys, then edit the file.

Wishlist for a Honeycomb update

Hi all
Here is my list ... kind of hoping that perhaps some of them are non-issues and perhaps already have suitable fixes I am really not on a bashing misioin here and want to try and create a constructive list of features / issues that need addressing ... even if moto / google don't pay attention then perhaps custom ROMs may take a look at the list if/when they start to be made. I'll update this post with other suggestions and comments and when things are fixed/changed.
All based on stock 3.0.1
Now categorised ... this blue font = fixed/no change required with version number tagged ... this purple font = wrokaround
Stock Honeycomb Features
Notification area
Network toggles without going into settings (those are almost the sole reason I have a CM7 rom on my phone!) Enhancement 15848
Volume widget/notification slider Enhancement 15847
Clear all notifications
UI/Launcher
A light theme ... I like the dark but in some cases light/white is so much easier on the eye (a little subjective but I have seen many people complain about this on all versions of android)
Set number of home screens
Folder support Enhancement 16335
Improve speed of home screen widget rendering, especially when rotating
Widget grouping
UX
Consistent text selection in all parts of the OS (and bug free as I often get misaligned arrow/cursor)
Scroll and task management in recent tasks
Scroll position remembered (i.e. in the market) Enhancement 16288
Bluetooth mouse pointer
Settings
VPN/proxy support Defect 1273
]PPOE
Native font support/installer
Allow wake with any button or better yet gesture like the play book
DRM to assist HBOGo/Netflix/Etc
Google Apps and Market
Dedicated tablet section for the Market (not really honeycomb but important and related still) - seems to be fixed ... partly [Market version 1.0.17]
Market in portrait
Google books for all! - books now available in the market/web reader but no app yet
Browser UA setting permanently Defect 16059 and Defect 15604
Browser stability improvements
Gmail "select all"
Mode to ensure all phone apps run ... like iPad handling of phone apps - seems this is the default behaviour but some apps are buggy (Get SpareParts from the market and untick "compatibility mode" to run all apps full screen)
XOOM hardware specific
Sd card support (I know this is available with tiamat but seriously ... it should be there in stock!!)
USB support
USB Mass storage - XOOM uses USB MTP which should work with FUSE in Linux [3.0.1]
USB Host (USB OTG) support (available again with Tiamat) Enhancement 738
I think we have a pretty good device in the XOOM and a solid OS in Honeycomb and in 6 months it will no doubt be great but I would like to do my bit for focusing my mind and hopefully others' on what is important for the next few updates.
I will check out the google bug tracker and link these to them and raise any that are not there already. Links added so you can track the ones that matter to you directly ... I will of course updated this thread if I receive any notifications. One thing is that the tracker seems to be a bit bloated and undermanaged/moderated which does not fill me with confidence for speedy fixes for many of these issues.
you live and learn ... at any rate you live
For the record I have a UK WiFi only MZ604
USB support for Linux. That fix is not to reliable.
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Remember list scroll position, in market for example.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire on the back of a Droid.
A "Clear all" button in notifications
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Bluetooth mouse pointer!!!
raviosopr said:
Bluetooth mouse pointer!!!
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Asus Trasnformer has it, so it probably will be there in next update for Xoom.
truth is that google has a bug/feature tracker and reading through and voting makes for intresting reading (and humbling)
I can't wait till they resolve as many as possible.
I just want a smoother refined intface that only comes after some time out there
thanks for the comments ... those are all things I forgot!
I'll try and link to the google bug tracker when I am back at my pc later. The XOOM is good ... but doesn't quite work as well as a real computer ;-)
By USB support do you mean support for mass storage protocol? (I.e. the device showing up as a disk on a computer.)
Or do you mean USB support for peripherals such as keyboards, mice, and portable drives.
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-Improved Flash support in the stock browser
-Cloud music/movie service
-Netflix app
-HBO Go app
-Native Google Docs app
-Google video chat support for tablets to phones.
-Improved enterprise support. (Xoom doesn't play nice with Gannett/USA Today's network)
-dedicated HD movie trailers section in Youtube. Similar to Apple.com/trailers.
-Mouse support <-- this would be flipping awesome.
Let's see if we can stick to Google / Moto issues ... Netflix hbogo etc are just apps and should be raised with those developers / companies
As I don't use mine in a corporate environment not sure what you mean by "doesn't play nice "?
sent from my mz604
you live and learn ... at any rate you live
Both host and mass storage are important for me and I believe both are "features" advertised if I remember rightly
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you live and learn ... at any rate you live
A "check all" option in stock gmail app
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JanetPanic said:
By USB support do you mean support for mass storage protocol? (I.e. the device showing up as a disk on a computer.)
Or do you mean USB support for peripherals such as keyboards, mice, and portable drives.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
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Are you asking me? If so, support for mass storage. With Linux, you have to manually mount the device thru a few steps and it has not worked for everyone. My Droid x mounts the minute its plugged in. No configuration needed. But with Ubuntu, after plugging in the xoom, it doesn't show up. Could be an issue when i want to transfer large files.
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A report spam button for gmail would be nice.
Sully9663 said:
A report spam button for gmail would be nice.
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Already have that. Open the message and click on the menu in the top right corner. The option is there.
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I would like the stock browser to be more stable. Its also annoying when it opens a mobile site,a permanent fix would rock.
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You know yesterday youtube refused to play a video because it saw
the xoom as a mobile device! What's with that google! !!
Fix browser, stop restart itself.
Volume toggle/widget, the volumes button on xoom is too small/too hard to press.
s.t.s said:
Let's see if we can stick to Google / Moto issues ... Netflix hbogo etc are just apps and should be raised with those developers / companies
As I don't use mine in a corporate environment not sure what you mean by "doesn't play nice "?
sent from my mz604
you live and learn ... at any rate you live
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Netflix and hbo go are not just apps. There are a lot of DRM related issues that could be addressed in updates. What I mean by 'doesn't play nice' is that simply isn't a supported device. I can't receive exchange emails, or connect via VPN, because the required security feature is not present on the Xoom. My iPad 2, Moto Atrix and iPhone 4 all connect to my corp network no problem.

I got Music Beta invitation (I am not a Verizon user)

Hello Motorola XOOM user,
We'd like to tell you about some changes to the Music player on your tablet. The latest app update now supports Music Beta, a new service from Google. As a Verizon Motorola XOOM user, you’ve been extended an early invitation to beta test this service.
Music Beta lets you store your personal music collection online and access it instantly without the hassle of wires or syncing.
Enjoy your music anywhere — listen on any web browser, your Motorola XOOM, or any other device running Android 2.2 or higher.
Save your favorite albums, artists, and playlists on your smartphone or tablet so you can keep listening even when you're not connected.
Create your own custom playlists or build them automatically from a single song.
To get started, click the button below and sign in with your Google ID: <my email address>
Get Started
Regards,
The Android Team
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Google think i am a Version user , I own WiFi Xoom and i am outside the USA , i think this is because i updated to 3.1 manually .
Same thing happened to me. Got my invite early this morning.
Same here,I was checking it out this morning, looks like a nice service. I particularly liked the free music
Me 4, using in canada, let's hope they don't catch on...
Yep, same here! I'm in Australia, using a US wifi-only xoom. Got my invite this morning also.
I upgraded to 3.1 manually too (using BRD`s flashable method), which is obviously why Google decided we were good Verizon customers. I noticed that after updating to 3.1 my xoom appeared as a new device "Verizon Motorola Xoom" on the online Market site, instead of "Motorola Xoom" it originally was. My understanding is that this method actually uses the 3g model's (or maybe some of it's ??) software/code. Sorry if that's not strictly correct, but that's what I've gathered... I also noticed that after upgrading, I had access to the music app upgrade (for this music beta), and the new video app, even though I'm outside the US.
Anyway, I was actually having a few stability issues and such, so I decided to do a clean wipe and start again. This time I upgraded to 3.1 using a different wifi-only method (one of the other dozen in the development forum!) This also worked well (and is the install I'm still using.) But I did notice that the music upgrade is no longer available and I no longer have the videos app. And yes, this device is once again called "Motorola Xoom" on the online market.
So again it's my understanding that by flashing that first update, it made Google think I had a Verizon 3g Xoom, or at least that I was in the US???, hence the invite I received. (This may be a sneeky trick to get Google to activate Music Beta on your Google account??)
But now what I'm interested in is seeing if the Music Beta service will actually work on this system since I changed the setup and I assume Google will tell that they're streaming music outside the US (they are pretty clever that way!). Before I even get there tho... since I can't "naturally" update the music app through the market (it comes up as "can't find" if I select the link from the Music Beta page), I figure I can find an apk for the updated music app and sideload it. On that note, can anyone please supply this??? (Save me time looking myself! )
I plan on trying all this out later tonight when I get home from work and will post back. Fingers crossed!
If anyone else has similar experiences I'd be interested to know. Cheers.
I'm in Canada on a wifi Xoom. Have loaded brd's 1.42 kernel and his 3.1hc upgrade and am running at 1.6Ghz stable. My music is uploading to Google Music as I type and I'm streaming my first few albums. I also have the video app and books app with access to public domain books that Canadian stock does not have. Plus, we have SD card support.
I think this means that it's time all of us non-US folks donate to brd for making our Xooms far more useful. Upgrading will be scary now, as to lose these services will suck!
I wonder if we can get the APK so we can side load this onto our phones. I have it in canada as well and it is working great on my Xoom! Unfortunately I am going to lose that when I get my Galaxy tab 10.1 next week.
jayhoskins said:
I wonder if we can get the APK so we can side load this onto our phones. I have it in canada as well and it is working great on my Xoom! Unfortunately I am going to lose that when I get my Galaxy tab 10.1 next week.
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Yeah, the new apk is readily available on the net... just google it and you'll find a bunch of links.
I've side loaded it on my HTC Desire phone and it works perfectly.

[Update 13/Oct] Beta Testers Wanted for WiFi Direct app

Hi guys,
Google market version is the most up-to-date.
Soon to remove the BETA tag out of it.
New Link as of 13th of October!!
Ok, file handling should be spot on now.
I've tried several different ways of sending from good sources and bad sources and I reckon I cover all the bases.
To organise some stuff I've removed the internationalisation, sorry, for now is english only, soon I'll put back the other languages.
If I managed to put the tutorial on it on the next few hours I'll update it as V0.4 on the google play, but I'm not sure it's going to happen, maybe tomorrow.
so the plan now is:
- tutorial
- tips n tricks
- logging for missing intents (maybe)
- future feature? NFC? bump? who knows.
have fun!
New Link as of 08th of October!!
Hi again guys,
I found out what was wrong on the file on the 7th, it was not the transmission or connection or even anything WiFi related. It's just that the files can come from several different sources I'm not properly dealing with them.
So here's the deal, this new build, I just blocked the files the app is not handling properly (most likely from 3rd parties galleries, and should work as expected on local files from the stock gallery). Files that are currently not handling properly should just close the app and pop-up a quick message saying "Can't handle this 'Share' at the moment, we're working on it!".
so let's recap:
- local media files from the gallery should work
- connection process is still and will always be hardware/manufacturer dependent and it might or not work.
- transmission (once passes connection) should work rock solid. Including canceling transmission midway through and also once completed tapping on the notification to open the media.
What I'll work on next:
- proper handling of every possible file/intent
- include a tutorial that will appear the 1st time the app is opened.
- a tips & tricks section with what I learned until now on what's best to get it connected.
and after that we should be in a V1.0... does it sound ok?
have fun!
New Link as of 07th of October!!
In this one I completely redid the transmission process and it's ROCK SOLID !!!!
The version on the market if you try really big videos they'll eventually fail, with this new protocol I've transferred HUGE 1.7giga video file without any problem.
Furthermore there's TONs of optimisations on the transfer speed that you won't see on this version, but it's already on the file and it will be unlocked by the future paid version that give around 2 to 3 times after transfer times.
Before put this version into the market I'll include a tutorial and link to the youtube video, but you guys can already test it.
PS.: also there's not much internationalization on this one, there some parts that language will be lacking, I'm aware of it don't need to come tell me.
Have fun!
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I've doing an open beta testing of the first and only (until now) WiFi Direct sharing app available in the Google Play.
here is the link for it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.budius.WiFiShoot
I just finished refactor most of the code and should be smooth stable now.
So I'm creating this thread to invite anyone that have a FORCE CLOSE to get a Logcat and post it here for me
Please also state if it was the Sender or Receiver, the phone manufacturer/model and which ROM you're running.
Please do not post if you try to connect but the other device fail to reply, or if you device reboots when you try to switch the WiFi Direct on.
Those problems are 100% unrelated to the App itself and it's direct related to the hardware and OS on it.
Developers info:
The WiFi Direct API is 100% with callbacks. So the app just requests a connection and wait for a callback. And sometimes the callback is "failed to connect".... why this happens? is up to the OS.. the OS is responsible to all the transactions and there's no API available for any app to interfere with the process.
Hi, Nice app! It didn't force close on me at all and the UI design has a good look and feel. I just tried it with my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus (both stock 4.1.1) and it worked. However, when launching the app to receive you might want to add a help menu or something to tell you what to do on the other device otherwise people might think to share something you need to launch the app on both devices and then share from there (this is what I did at first because I didn't watch your video!)
Is there any way you can launch the app automatically on the receiving device when the other device tries to send something? Also tapping "Shoot" to receive something is slightly odd. "Receive" or "Receive Shoot" might be better.
footboydog said:
However, when launching the app to receive you might want to add a help menu or something to tell you what to do on the other device otherwise people might think to share something you need to launch the app on both devices and then share from there (this is what I did at first because I didn't watch your video!)
Is there any way you can launch the app automatically on the receiving device when the other device tries to send something? Also tapping "Shoot" to receive something is slightly odd. "Receive" or "Receive Shoot" might be better.
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Yeah, the help will definitely be necessary but at the moment I'm focusing on nailing the actual software functionality. Non nexus devices not always works so nicely.
When I started developing I though about the same (auto launching) but it can't be done, unfortunately, I wanted something liked the show on last year Google io for he ask. But no, I couldn't do it without taking over ALL WiFi direct transactions on the device, which I reckon it would be bad a behavior. Maybe in the future I'll thin about it as an option for the paid version.
About the shoot.... hmmmm..... it kinda feels better to have the confirmation on the receiver, but for sure feels like the text could be different, but then the "cool factor" of it is to have that single big button with a very simple and almost graphical SHOOT, that won't even be translated to other languages.
Something to think about it.
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nice app
waiting it support any file type
thanks
@Dev
Great work, any plans to expand the functionality and maybe expand to share a wireless shared connection from your laptop using direct wifi?
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Nice initiative, I am on evo 4g lte. I tried it with my laptop sony viao, installed to latest atheros utility which haves wifi direct interface.
wifi shoot found it, invited it, get connected.
I just tried to send a songs or 3gp file thru root explorer. without enabling wifi direct from setting.
In send option it shows wifi shoot. I clicked on wifi shoot.
wifi shoot connect to my laptop wifi direct. then nothing no transfer.
Great work. Very high potential. once again great initiative. Thanks.
I'm sorry but you misunderstood the function of the app.
Is a direct transfer from android device to Android device, and both devices must have the app installed. It has never been meant to be used with a laptop.
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Works great! I sent a small video from my S3 to my N7 successfully. Thanks a bunch, will try a big file later.
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Budius said:
I'm sorry but you misunderstood the function of the app.
Is a direct transfer from android device to Android device, and both devices must have the app installed. It has never been meant to be used with a laptop.
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ohh got it. both device same apps. Thanks. will test it. Sorry
My Nexus 7 and S3 don't play wel together.
What does work is using the S3 as a hotspot and then run Samba on the Galaxy S3 (Root required)
Samba takes a while to activate.. but after it does you can browse your phone using the Nexus 7 and copy stuff... no limitations on specific file extansions either.
It work great... for a picture. But I want to transfert any file I want and Wifi Shoot! doesn't appear in "Send"/"Share" menu in ES file explorer or X-Port... What can I do ?
NFC pairing would be a great addition to this app! Maybe include it in a pro version of the app and charge a small fee? I'd definitely pay for it!
taylortr said:
I sent a small video from my S3 to my N7 successfully.
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jwedda said:
My Nexus 7 and S3 don't play wel together.
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It's not the first time I hear ppl saying that S3 and N7 doesn't play nice together, but on the other side, there're reports that they do work nice.
Can you both tell me which versions of the S3 you have? Some US variant or the international?
thanks.
Work great beetwin mu gnex and n7
Nice work bedalus, now we only need The ability to share every file, not only media from gallery
dropped by a jellybeans cup...
Just downloaded to both my N7 and my GNex.
I really need something like this for files. As of right now, I'm using WiFi Explorer. It works but this would be faster.
The version from the Google play store (v0.3.5) worked fine both ways with my Galaxy Nexus with JB and my bro's Galaxy Nexus with JB. We both had to looking at the program during pairing to get the notifications though.
I was able to transfer a 323 mb .mkv video file in 2:30 mins. Pretty good considering transferring the file originally to my phone took about 15 mins over wifi via a PC router.
By the way, is there any reason in particular you made it so you can only transfer pics and video files? The program would be much more useful if you could transfer any file type.
Can i use it between galaxy S and SIII?
Please, add all kind of file type. Not only image and videos, also others type (.pdf, .zip, .dat…).
Wifi shoot installed on i9100 and i9000, both devices on Rom ICS AOKP milestone 6. The process work fine only if I follow exactly the same steps on the demo video :
Receiver:
1- Open wifi shoot and wait
Sender:
2- Open the apps where the file to send is
3- Share via wifi shoot
4- wifi shoot apparears and select client to invite
Receiver:
5- Accept the invite
6- Click on big button shoot
Sending + receiving…
So, if we follow the guide of use, wifi shoot work fine. But please, add support for all kind of file type. Not only image and videos, also others type (.zip, .pdf…).
Please, continue to develop this great app, I hope one day you will be able to win money with it.
Wifi shoot are not still unique for wifi direct. There is also this apps, but not working at all for my devices.
philippe734 said:
The process work fine only if I follow exactly the same steps on the demo video
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Hi,
thanks for the reply and tests. Could you further explain, how else were you expecting it to work? DId you try some other way?
I'm currently working on a better protocol to make the transfers more reliable, after that is fine tuned I'll enable every file type, multiple files and photos that are synchronised from picasa.
wifi shoot! is a great idea ... but would be better to have some kind of server on the phone that allow to share any file to another phone or tablet. Something like an ftp server or upnp/dlna server. This way we wont have to send the files frome the phone, we will just need to request it from the other device.
I don't know how wifi direct works ... but if it works using TCP/IP the only thing we need is to know de wifi direct IP address of the phone to connect to any available ftp/smb/upnp server phone from the other phone/tablet connected via wifi direct ...
the problem is: the available servers will be bound to the external IP only or will accept requests from the wifi direct interface? maybe this willraise the need of a special server and client prepared to work via wifi direct ..
PS: sorry about my poor english

Testers wanted for PeerDeviceNet -sharing thru wifi, wifi direct and mobile hotspot

!!! updated 12/28/2012: add code to detect and use mobile hotspot to enable sharing among devices !!!
I'd like to invite people to participate an open testing session for app "PeerDeviceNet - sharing thru WiFi and WiFi-Direct".
It runs on android 2.2 and above. It is free at google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xconns.free.peerdevicenet
I have done tests using Nexus 7, Samsung Tab 2.0, Kindle fire(1gen), Galaxy Vibrant. I'd like more complete coverage of devices and vendors.
It supports 4 kinds of device-device connections:
1. for devices at the same wifi net: start PeerDeviceNet at devices simultaneously will allow them find and connect to each other automatically.
2. for devices which are all wifi direct enabled: from system preferences, you can setup wifi direct group connection; PeerDeviceNet will pick up this group info and connect devices in group automatically.
3. if only one device is wifi direct enabled: you can use PeerDeviceNet to create a softwareAP/hotspot at this device (PeerDeviceNet->Connection settings->Create wifi direct hotspot), other wifi devices can use generated ssid and passphrase to connect.
4. for devices with mobile hotspot, you can use mobile hotspot to connect devices and enable sharing.
It extends android's "share/send" feature to allow sharing of the following data:
1. photos/videos (single or multiple) (gallery), audios(astro, solid-browser, or other browsers)
2. web pages (browsers)
3. contact info(Contacts)
4. pdf, word docs (astro or other file managers)
5. apps (google play)
I'll highly appreciate it if you can spend some time installing the app and try out some of the above scenarios. If you encounter Force Closure, please post your device info, android version, or ROM info.
Thanks!
This works fantastically between all of my devices, ranging from Ginger Bread, Honey Comb, and Jelly Bean.
WiFi hotspot also works very well.
This really is a handy app, something like this should definitely be implemented into base Android. Sharing files between devices that have NFC is a breeze, but legacy devices can be troublesome. This is an excellent solution for both worlds.
downloading
looks good
Installed and gave it a test drive.
Works perfectly on our Galaxy S III, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Xperia X8, Packard Bell Liberty Tab G100 and Wildfire S - after adding the devices manually. For some unknown reason they don't see each other, though the local LAN has no restrictions put into place.
Hi, I´ve been testing this between SGN2 N7100 (Stock Rooted) and MyTouch 4g Slide (CM9.1 R8) and it works great (no FC etc.)
I have several questions though:
a) I´d like to buy you a beer. There is a paid version but that one is far behind the free one in updates...
b) chat works great (as long as I have signal. but within a flat its mostly great). Will there be an implementation into the full version?
c) if I buy the full version, will you be updating it?
Thanks! Keep it up!
EDIT: seems to me that your app fights with anyconnect VPN (even if that one is running in background I get FC from anyconnect and superuser permissions asked all time... I´ll look into the behavior a bit closer if I find some time) else everything works good.
EDIT: after reinstall of anyconnect it works flawlessly. Keep it up!
File Expert by Geek Software Technology
I have been using File Expert to do similar things... perhaps I don't understand this program's full benefits or potential. FE also connects via bluetooth and runs both a web and FTP server.
It would be nice if you implement an option to close the app...
Option to close the app.
paul1508 said:
It would be nice if you implement an option to close the app...
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Agree with that. It's quite painful to close an app by going into settings instead of hitting some button from the home interface.
Testing now
Downloaded and tried it..
I have a GS3 that it seems to work on, and a Nook color (the original one) from like 2 years ago running CM7 that it just gives a black screen on. I can use the regular wifi connect from the Nook and connect to the hotspot from your PeerDeviceNet but there's no sharing of data back and forth, unfortunately. If the app worked on both I'm sure it'd be much better, but I don't suspect the older Nooks will be a big percentage of your users.
issues related to peer discovery
B.Jay said:
Installed and gave it a test drive.
Works perfectly on our Galaxy S III, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Xperia X8, Packard Bell Liberty Tab G100 and Wildfire S - after adding the devices manually. For some unknown reason they don't see each other, though the local LAN has no restrictions put into place.
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Thanks for your feedback. The failure to see peer devices in LAN could be related to one issue i fixed in the latest release; please give it a try.
Also PeerDeviceNet's "search and connect" is based on peer-peer "pairing": no one is acting as server and waiting for other clients. All participating peer devices must start search at same time or in same short time period so that they can find each other. If one peer finished its searching when a new peer starts searching, the new one cannot see the one just finished. It is for security reason.
Regards
Yigong
XCONNS LLC
a) I´d like to buy you a beer. There is a paid version but that one is far behind the free one in updates...
b) chat works great (as long as I have signal. but within a flat its mostly great). Will there be an implementation into the full version?
c) if I buy the full version, will you be updating it?
I am working on refactoring code and bug fixing for the full edition. Thanks for your feedback.
Regards
Yigong
XCONNS LLC
compare to file expert
eonix said:
I have been using File Expert to do similar things... perhaps I don't understand this program's full benefits or potential. FE also connects via bluetooth and runs both a web and FTP server.
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File expert is a powerful browser with many nice features. PeerDeviceNet is a totally different creature.
As a app, it plainly extends android native "sharing" protocol (send/send_multiple) to connected devices, to allow you share content from one device to another. (As a framework, it provides the components and runtime to support connected mobile apps). It has minimal GUI to support connecting devices and monitoring send/recv sessions. It has strong support for connecting multiple devices, run multiple concurrent send/recv sessions, and running in background.
So normally you will use your favorite apps to browse/view content, and when you want to share the content with another device, you hit "share" button and PeerDeviceNet will be there to help connect to other devices.
So you can use Astro file manager or Solid explorer with PeerDeviceNet to share files across devices similar to file expert.
Also PeerDeviceNet allows you share contact info, web links, or apps from google play to connected devices.
Regards
Yigong
how to close it
xbroadcaster1991 said:
Agree with that. It's quite painful to close an app by going into settings instead of hitting some button from the home interface.
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There is "shutdown" button for that : "Connection settings" -> "Shutdown". It will shut down all background services and clean up notifications.
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Yigong
peerdevicenet said:
There is "shutdown" button for that : "Connection settings" -> "Shutdown". It will shut down all background services and clean up notifications.
Regards
Yigong
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Mmm, too many button presses to get there. It would be easier to have a "Shutdown" button in the notification shade. Otherwise well done! I tested sharing files between LG Optimus 3D (p920) and Xperia Mini (st15i) connected on the same LAN. Everything worked fine.
Can one add a function to "tether" a hotspot? but from wifi and not from 3g?
This would be really awsome.
Greets
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Yo so I got the full version. The lite is good but wanted to buy you a beer... Managed to transfer 4gb of data in few minutes between my and friends Samsung phone (unfortunately in 3 steps because of the data amount limit). Very useful, the chat also works good.
When will we see full version updated with chat and unlimited data transfer?
Thanks
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tether to wifi router
keenofhiphop said:
Can one add a function to "tether" a hotspot? but from wifi and not from 3g?
This would be really awsome.
Greets
Not sure this will really help. because when connecting to PeeerDeviceNet hotspot, we already use wifi connection, so why not just connect to external wifi router directly?
Regards
yigong
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unlimited capacity
Narhim said:
Yo so I got the full version. The lite is good but wanted to buy you a beer... Managed to transfer 4gb of data in few minutes between my and friends Samsung phone (unfortunately in 3 steps because of the data amount limit). Very useful, the chat also works good.
When will we see full version updated with chat and unlimited data transfer?
Thanks
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
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Thanks for using PeerDeviceNet and offering beer. I am still working on the full edition. For now i removed the limit of transfer capacity. Please chek out the new release at google play. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xconns.free.peerdevicenet
Regards
Yigong
SonyVaio+Htc Salsa=possible?
While my sony laptop has wifi direct facility my htc salsa lacks one and just has traditional wifi and wifi hotspot facility...how do i connect bothe these devices for transferring the data to and fro?

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