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Currently using CM7 and I'm not really happy with the camera picture quality (with any rom). Not looking for another app to replace the stock one. I'm interested in tweaking the contrast, saturation, sharpness, exposure, and white balance to produce the optimal picture quality.
So my question is what settings are you using to produce top quality images from the camera?
I've pretty much given up on this phone providing a decent photograph. My BlackBerry Pearl took better shots tbh.
HTC Vision (G2) - CM7 B75 w/AUS radio
Wow... Really? My blackberry pear suck hella lot. There must be something wrong with your phone.
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I would like an optimal setup for the camera as well.
There is no such thing as optimal exposure and white balance settings. It depends on the conditions. For instance, increasing exposure will help in low light situations, but will make the photo look overexposed in brighter situations. Picking the white balance setting that corresponds to the type of light typically looks better than auto, but the wrong one will look terrible.
Taking good photos is an art, and it takes practice. Its not just a matter of picking a couple of catch-all settings.
Also, many poorly lit photos can be corrected after-the-fact pretty well using easy apps like Vignette or Picsay Pro.
redpoint73 said:
There is no such thing as optimal exposure and white balance settings. It depends on the conditions. For instance, increasing exposure will help in low light situations, but will make the photo look overexposed in brighter situations. Picking the white balance setting that corresponds to the type of light typically looks better than auto, but the wrong one will look terrible.
Taking good photos is an art, and it takes practice. Its not just a matter of picking a couple of catch-all settings.
Also, many poorly lit photos can be corrected after-the-fact pretty well using easy apps like Vignette or Picsay Pro.
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As a photographer i totally agree!
+2 if you know what your doing this is the best 5mp cam ive used in quite a while.
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Silly me, I want non blurry photos quickly and easily. It's a cell phone, not a high end standalone camera.
Snapping a quick pic of something is what a lot of people use their phone camera for. Having to fiddle with exposure, shutter speed, light balancing, etc every time is a pain.
Anyone know of a camera app that does better than stock for general pics?
HTC Vision (G2) - CM7 B79 w/AUS radio
onelikeseabass said:
Silly me, I want non blurry photos quickly and easily. It's a cell phone, not a high end standalone camera.
Snapping a quick pic of something is what a lot of people use their phone camera for. Having to fiddle with exposure, shutter speed, light balancing, etc every time is a pain.
Anyone know of a camera app that does better than stock for general pics?
HTC Vision (G2) - CM7 B79 w/AUS radio
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Vignettes auto focus and auto white bal etc is pretty good, my choice over stock app, though it takes hella longer to process images as it doesnt compress them as much.
Although the number one cause for blurry pics is a fingerprinted cam lens, always give it a wipe once and a while.
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ptesmoke said:
Vignettes auto focus and auto white bal etc is pretty good, my choice over stock app, though it takes hella longer to process images as it doesnt compress them as much.
Although the number one cause for blurry pics is a fingerprinted cam lens, always give it a wipe once and a while
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Thanks, I'll give Vignette a whirl.
Re: blur, I guess I meant noisy more than blur. I keep the lens clean. The images just don't come out crisp/clean unless I'm outside and it's high noon with not a cloud in sight.
HTC Vision (G2) - CM7 B80 w/AUS radio
Camera 360
I tried the stock app on CM 6.1, Vignette, and Camera 360 all shooting the same indoor shot under fluorescent lighting. Camera 360 had the sharpest and best coloring of any of the three. I use it now as my main camera app. I don't know if it's the best, but it's the one I like the most.
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Re: blur, I guess I meant noisy more than blur. I keep the lens clean. The images just don't come out crisp/clean unless I'm outside and it's high noon with not a cloud in sight.
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What that person said, about the #1 cause of blurry pics being fingerprints, is hogwash. The main reason for blurry photos is an aperture that is too small, and ISO that is too low for the lighting conditions, resulting in the shutter having to stay open longer to capture the image. This allows more time for the camera or subject to move while the shutter is open, which causes a blurry photo.
http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/129/the-top-4-causes-of-blurry-photos-and-how-to-fix-them/
Photos can also appear noisy or over-processed. This is due to the camera trying to increase the ISO (light sensor sensitivity), or manually increasing the ISO, to compensate for low lighting.
Point and shoot cameras try to do the work for you by automatically adjusting the aperture, ISO, and shutter speed. So the recommendation for a different camera app (which all handle these adjustments slightly differently) is probably a good place to start if you aren't comfortable making the adjustments manually (and its often not convenient).
But practice and understanding how cameras work goes a lot farther. You'd be surprised at how much you can improve your photos with simple tricks that don't involve camera settings. Just slightly shifting the point of focus can significantly improve the amount of light entering the lens. Or bracing the camera/phone on a stationary object (like a piece of furniture, or a building column) to create an impromptu tripod, can control the camera jitter just enough to get a less blurry photos in low light.
Found this in the Desire HD section, though some of the options aren't available to us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230&highlight=camera+settings
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Found this in the Desire HD section, though some of the options aren't available to us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230&highlight=camera+settings
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Interesting read, thanks for linking it. Although to clarify your comment, some of the options discussed on the guide aren't available on non-Sense ROMs. But those on Sense have all the options available.
Also interesting to see the Desire and Desire HD cameras compared side-to-side to the iPhone 4. I know the camera on the Desire Z (or even my older Touch Pro 2) is decidedly better than the iPhone 3GS. My wife owns a 3GS, and she is always commenting on how much better the photos taken by my phone are. But I know Apple made some improvements to the camera for the iPhone 4, so I was wondering how things netted out. While the Desire Z was not specifically compared, its newer than the Desire (and same MP), while being the same generation as the HD (but the HD is 8 MP). So I'm just guessing the Desire Z falls somewhere in between the two in photo quality.
Nothing beats the iPhone 4 when it comes to the camera and the photo/videos - I'm jumping ships when the iPhone 4S hits T-Mobile!
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What i dont like about the cam is the noise. at first (scaled to fit the screen) it looks very good. once you transfer it to your pc and view the normal size, noise is all over.
any setting to reduce that? ISO?
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+2 if you know what your doing this is the best 5mp cam ive used in quite a while.
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I've got to say that the camera on this thing is the one thing I was disappointed with when moving from my Nokia N95 8gb. That thing had the best camera I've EVER seen on a phone, and I think it was a combination of a better sensor and a considerably better (and larger) lense. This thing takes decent pictures, and they actually look good when printing in like a 4x6 or smaller, but the quality overall is pretty disappointing. I've given up on getting better pictures out of it and just take what I can.
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Nothing beats the iPhone 4 when it comes to the camera and the photo/videos - I'm jumping ships when the iPhone 4S hits T-Mobile!
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You have any proof to back that statement up? Because the side-by-side comparison in the linked guide above clearly shows the photos on both the old Desire, and the Desire HD are significantly superior to photos taken on the iPhone 4, for indoor conditions.
Hyperbolic statements, with no proof make you sound like Steve Jobs.
Cm7 already has a built in mod to allow you to take pictures in 720p and you can activate deblur fhor our unsteady hands. Its in the settings tab of the camera on cm7 just scroll down a little
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Cm7 already has a built in mod to allow you to take pictures in 720p and you can activate deblur fhor our unsteady hands. Its in the settings tab of the camera on cm7 just scroll down a little
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They still look like crap.
HTC Vision (G2) - CM7 B91 w/AUS radio
So I've been taking a few pictures on my phone, and I have noticed that the Galaxy S2 is very very inconsistent in taking quality photos. I can have a great clear shot of some mid-ranged photos, but far distanced photos have horrible quality. I understand if you take pictures of something really far, obviously it won't be that good, but when I compared to my friends iPhone 4, the 8MP is barely on par with it. Do any of you know what might be the problem? I've tried using auto focus and manual focus, but it is always blurry.
It seems to be an hardware problem. I find the sgsw camera pretty good, especially the dynamic range. My only concern is with indoor pictures, a bit noisy and cold.
Can you upload and provide some shots samples?
Everything on auto? It might help to know which ROM/mod you are using.
I'm not an expert in mobile digital photography but if I can see your blurry distant shots it might be able to tell if I get better result with my device.
The S2 tends to like low shutter speeds (1/4s - 1/20s) ALL the frigging time.
It will select this slow shutter speed even when it should raise the ISO and get a faster shutter speed.
This is why the S2 often takes blurry photos, because even 1/15 or 1/19sec is not fast enough to take a photo sharply with a 28mm lens (effectively what the S2 is).
The slowest shutter speed the S2 should use is 1/30sec to ensure the photos aren't blurred by *camera* vibration/shake. (But, if the *subject* is moving, like a child, then 1/60s or 1/80s are the minimum that are needed to freeze the subject).
This is why the photos are so often blurry as soon as the light gets slightly low - cloud day, in shade, etc. I don't have a solution sorry!
Proof: check the EXIF data of the blurry photos you take. Most will have a stupidly low ISO (like ISO25, ISO50) and a stupid low shutter speed.
Yes I have noticed that the shutter speeds are quite low...now I'm assured that its not just me
I can take SOME really good photos, but almost every other pictures are very blurry even at a close distance.
Everything is on default, except I have enabled Anti-Shake or something like that, and I am using CheckROM 3.1.1 (KJ3)
The first 2 are taken at a considerably good range, with no zoom or any effects, just a normal shot, but then the outcome was very weird.
The last one was a closer shot, but in a darker area, and that one was a little bit more clear
I don't want to be captain obvious, and I am sure you are a better photographer than me but can you check if the focus mode is set to macro if it is then change to auto focus.
Since this happened to me once i set to macro and forgot and all the photos were blurry.
I just felt that might be the reason.
I am guessing that what you're doing is pressing on the "Capture" button without focusing on the subject yet?
I do find that it's best to press to focus on the area you want to take and then press the main capture button to capture it. It seems like the focus hasn't focused on what you want to take.
It's quite annoying because then that means I have to press in the middle and then press the capture button to take a decent shot. I wish I could just hold down the capture button to focus, then release to shoot.. which works sometimes but not as good as what I said above.
Here you have 2 images, far and close focus. You can see the great quality of the camera. Take a look at the focus settings: better in auto mode if you don't want to manage it in all photos. Maybe you have some problem in the camera hardware... so warranty is the best option here.
There are at least 2 types of camera modules in SGS II.
Check this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098834
Mine also had this problem (blury at far objects), the soultion is set the metering to matrix in camera menu.It works for me.
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Yes I have noticed that the shutter speeds are quite low...now I'm assured that its not just me
I can take SOME really good photos, but almost every other pictures are very blurry even at a close distance.
Everything is on default, except I have enabled Anti-Shake or something like that, and I am using CheckROM 3.1.1 (KJ3)
The first 2 are taken at a considerably good range, with no zoom or any effects, just a normal shot, but then the outcome was very weird.
The last one was a closer shot, but in a darker area, and that one was a little bit more clear
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are you using macro mode to take farer objects ?
thats why it is more clear when you are taking photo of the specimen (3rd one)
or the camera firmware is broken , if not ,it may be the hardware issue
I always touch the place where I want to focus, and that is why I am confused
Yes I was using Macro, but only because it had the best quality...Auto-Focus doesn't really help as it never focus properly, as in when I press the "Capture" button, most of the time it goes to red and doesn't turn green. I am holding the phone still and don't know why
The camera firmware is also up to date
What I don't get is that my old HTC Desire can take photos that are much more crisp than my Galaxy S2
Try resetting the camera settings see if that works,try a third party HDR camera app or Camera 360,if quility is still bad in the 3rd party app then it could be a hardware fault
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My only concern is with indoor pictures, a bit noisy and cold.
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auto contrast I find helps take better indoors
Cant say I've had any problems with the camera. Love the macro focussing.
It seems obvious that your device doesn't behave like it should and have focus problems. I can have the exact same results with macro mode activated (and not shooting close objects)
I would suggest :
- trying another camera app (like TheiPhoneKiller suggested)
- trying a totally stock rom
- trying a rom like CM7 or MIUI
If you still got totally unfocused shots, you may very well have an faulty device. Try to get a replacement unit if you can.
(And did you try the fix kisstom suggested?)
Well... my shots is certainly much more grainy, since i upgraded to 2.3.5 - even if shot outside in bright sunshine. And many of the pictures is becoming more yellow than before - especially when using the flash-LED, so something has happened when i upgraded... this is one of my big complaints about the new upgrade. My old W800i 2Mpx beats the SGS2 in pure quality of the pictures now (but that was also, and still is, a VERY good camera for a phone)...
When comparing the newest pictures to some of the old pictures i have shot in the past, it's clear to me that i have a loss of quality since upgrading. How do i check manually, if there's a new camera-software version available - as i can't seem to find any in the Samsung apps, even if i have read somewhere that there's a newer one, comparing to my version of the camera-software???
But a least it's still not as crappy as my old HTC's camera - THAT was lousy...
Frankly speaking, 'Camera quality is bad' makes no sense. If you've said it's bad than this or that then I'd take it. Have used all the SE phones as I loved their image quality and I'll say after playing with the Satio, C905 I don't think this one would beat them. We are talking about a small image sensor here. So the main job is how good the post image processing is, some part still depends on the lens though.
The thing is I didn't buy this one for camera, believe me or not, after purchase, that is almost six months now, I've shot barely 10 pics with it. For normal usage and as a professional can't go without 350D, and for short tours and holidays I still shoot with my C905 , but not GSII.
But still this Camera is capable of taking some great pics, posting some of them here, after seeing them you certainly can't say Camera quality is bad.
The very bests I've found,
-> ithehappy
Well - i used to have that image quality too, but it has become somewhat impossible to shot such good pictures, since upgrading... i suspect that it's because my camera firmware still is TBEC28 (but of course not sure of it)
iocar said:
I always touch the place where I want to focus, and that is why I am confused
Yes I was using Macro, but only because it had the best quality...Auto-Focus doesn't really help as it never focus properly, as in when I press the "Capture" button, most of the time it goes to red and doesn't turn green. I am holding the phone still and don't know why
The camera firmware is also up to date
What I don't get is that my old HTC Desire can take photos that are much more crisp than my Galaxy S2
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Confused!!! Are you saying that you always have macro focus on?
If so then turn it off. My cousin complained about the exact same thing, blurry and red box when trying to focus. Went through his settings, turned macro off and everything was good again.
Also auto focus will not work correctly if macro is on, unless your taking really close range pics, which is what macro focus is for.
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well i am on 2.3.5 Images are really Perfect for me am seriously impressed the Quality iam on kI8 here is one example
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/20111118205552.jpg
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Yes I was using Macro, but only because it had the best quality
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That's exactly why your pictures are blurry at a distance.
Macro focus is for close-up pictures, use auto focus for longer distances
Software: Some of the very important features found in Gingerbread has not been incorporated in Jelly Bean. For example, I cannot transfer apps from internal memory to extended SD card or change the default installation path. I have a Class-10 SD Card which i planned to store Games, Music and other space consuming apps but no 'Move to SD Card' option under apps detail has been provided like in Gingerbread 2.0+. This is a huge disappointment for high end devices like the Note-II with 64GB expandable slot.
Hardware: I find that the Note-II 8MP camera is relatively inferior compared to the Xperia Arc when it comes to shooting pictures Indoor or under low light condition. It captures fabulous pictures :good: in bright light but the most annoying is the GRAINS :crying: that appears while taking pictures indoor. I don't know, may be it is because of difference in build in camera sensors.
I just hope an Update will come up to solve the above issues.
Nope cos jelly bean doesnt support it
Re the camera its fantastic ate you sure yours isn't faulty ... pics are as good as any phone out there
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Nope cos jelly bean doesnt support it
Re the camera its fantastic ate you sure yours isn't faulty ... pics are as good as any phone out there
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I agree with mancuk29 , but i think there is a mod that alows you o move to external/SD.
Ref. Camera i am very satisfied and working perfectly !
Also the new video options like Slow motion and fast forward are amazing !
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I agree my SGN2 takes superb pics outdoor in the daylight. However, the images appear grainy in low light when used without flash. My SGN2 is just a month old i dont think there's any issue with the camera.
The camera produces porminitly grainy pictures in low light, it annoys me but the low light option in the camera settings reduce it by a good ammount but they'd still be noticable.
Outdoor quality is OUTSTANDING!
Reports from another thread here leads me to believe the camera issue is a software issue, seeing how other camera apps improve on it a lot.
Stock camera uses way too high default iso, try to lower it for better indoor pics.
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I'm 99% sure the high noise level is because of the zero shutter lag. With cameras it's always a tradeoff, you can't get optimal exposure, low noise and fast shots at once (unless it's a really bright scene). You can pick any 2, but you can't have all 3.
My solution is to use the low light mode when I want a really nice pic, regardless of the light conditions. Especially in macros it's a day and night difference, and I'm not talking about the amount of light in the pic. All the noise in the blurry background disappears completely. They should really have advertised the low-light mode as low-noise. If you can keep the phone steady, macros, landscapes and other still scenes look like they came out of a nice compact camera. Initially I was a bit disappointed in the camera too, but now that I learned my way around the options I think it's quite amazing what they got out of such a tiny sensor.
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Software: Some of the very important features found in Gingerbread has not been incorporated in Jelly Bean. For example, I cannot transfer apps from internal memory to extended SD card or change the default installation path. I have a Class-10 SD Card which i planned to store Games, Music and other space consuming apps but no 'Move to SD Card' option under apps detail has been provided like in Gingerbread 2.0+. This is a huge disappointment for high end devices like the Note-II with 64GB expandable slot.
Hardware: I find that the Note-II 8MP camera is relatively inferior compared to the Xperia Arc when it comes to shooting pictures Indoor or under low light condition. It captures fabulous pictures :good: in bright light but the most annoying is the GRAINS :crying: that appears while taking pictures indoor. I don't know, may be it is because of difference in build in camera sensors.
I just hope an Update will come up to solve the above issues.
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u r clueless
Im still using the Xperia Arc and I find the camera is fabulous. It takes great quality pics both Outdoor and Indoor even in low light without any speck of grain or noise. I think samsung is also using Sony camera in Note2. If this is true, then the cause of high noise level/grains is not hardware related definitely should be a software bug. I hope an Update will solve this problem
Another bug I found is that the camera settings auto reset to default every time you close the camera. Changes in the settings do not get saved. Very sad indeed.
Hey don't forget to wipe the camera lens glass before taking pics. . it gets Dirty easily. ... silly tip but very useful... try taking a pic then clean the lens glass and then take a pic again. . See the difference
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Am I the only one who thinks the flash is to overpowering when taking pictures ?
Almost all pictures I take with flash come out with the flash killing the picture.
When I take a picture with the SGSIII from the same distance with flash on they come out fine.
* If there is a way to tune the flash down a bit that would be awesome.
Yes the flash is seriously munged. It does not behave anything like a flash should as it still uses very low shutter speeds. Just more poorly implemented camera software that will hopefully be addressed. In the meantime, Camera FV-5 does a much better job with flash exposure.
Hi. I have been very impressed by my former Note2 LTE. I can focus and snap any picture I want, especially of human faces and moving animals. However, my S4 LTE seems to take a second to focus and shutter to snap, resulting in missing the person's expression i want to take and results also in some blurry images. I tried other apps like Fx camera, but no improvement. Only Fast camera app can solve it except the maximum resolution is 2.1 mp. Even my lousy iphone 5 camera is faster and takes nicer pictures. On the whole, taking still shots of sceneries result in nice pictures but it is just too slow. Is it software issue? Flashed newer firmwares but still the same. I find it distressing as i take pictures of my kids alot. Thank you
sadly that's pretty common case for all S4 variants, including my i9500 and samsung really needs to do something about it. Custom roms or rooting your phone and removing some bloatware might help, but i haven't rooted my phone yet so i am not too sure.
Mine's rooted. On stock debloated slim rom xxuame2. No camera improvements at all