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[Q] Please recommend apps - Milestone 2

First of all.. the moderators can move this to another section if this isn't the correct place to be posting this...
I have been waiting for the Milestone 2 section to pop up to ask this... but I guess that might take a little longer...
I'm using the stock ROM from Motorola Froyo 2.2.. My phone is rooted though... Not a big fan of BLUR for obvious reasons.. (Angdroid .. we are waiting for ur custom ROM eagerly to get rid of BLUR.. kudos to u bro to help us out)
So I want some recommendations on the apps that I should use for the list below. I'm using some apps but since the android world in full of awesome apps.. I just wanted to make sure that I'm using the best of the best..
I would really appreciate if someone can give a reason as to why I should NOT use a particular app..
Task Killer - _________ (using Avanced task killer)
Alarm & Timer - ________ (using stock) (hopefully nothing fancy is necessary here)
File Manager - _________(ASTRO)
Calendar - ___________ (using stock)
Dictionary - __________ (required. Preferably offline)
Camera - ___________ (using stock)
Camcorder - __________ (using stock)
Contacts - __________ (using stock)
Dialler - ___________ (using stock)
Office app - _________ (got Quickoffice as stock)
Browser - ___________ (Dolphin HD and Opera Mini)
Social Networking - _________ (I only use Facebook and I have got the official App)
Picture Gallery - ________ (Got QuickPic.. looking for something a little more fancy here)
Music Player - ___________ (got stock n WinAmp)
Text Messaging - __________ (Stock)
Exchange - ____________ (heard a lot about Exchange by Touchdown)
Launcher - ______________ (using Launcher Pro)
Other than that I have Google Goggles, Google Sky Maps, Google Maps, SetCPU, XDA app n Youtube..
One more thing, I would really appreciate if someone can suggest apps (especially launcher) which can give me better battery life..
Would also appreciate any interesting app that I'm missing..
Thanks in advance for your suggestions..

You don't need a task killer. FroYo is designed to handle running apps optimally and a task killer just gets in the way of doing that.

okay... thanks for tht....
Any other suggestions??

Well I keep advanced task killer froyo in case an app starts acting up and I need to kill it. I never kill everything though.
A great music player is miui music. Very good ui, downloads lyrics and album artwork free.
Miren web browser from the miui rom is also great.
Widgetlocker is nice. Widgets on your lockscreen and its only $1.
Launcherpro is a great home replacement to get ride of the blur launcher. Its super smooth and snappy. Paid version has some nice widgets.
Hope you find this helpful.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App

Thanks.. I'll try out miui music and miren browser.. Not to keen on keeping widgets on lock screen, so would keep away from Widgetlocker..
Have tried both Launcher Pro and ADWlauncher... Launcher Pro is super snappy... but ADWlauncher is catching up fast... Plus it has got loads of themes.. I cant decide between the two at the moment.. I guess battery consideration will dictate terms there....
More suggestions are welcome...

Root Explorer is a good file manager because it gives you access to your /system folder so you can eliminate those annoying camera shutter sounds. It costs $10.

silverfang77 said:
Root Explorer is a good file manager because it gives you access to your /system folder so you can eliminate those annoying camera shutter sounds. It costs $10.
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Android mate is a free alternative to root explorer. It gives you root access to your /system folder. It might not have as many features as root explorer, but that's the price you pay for not paying lol
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Ad free to stop ads (Duh).
Adobe Reader (Just in case).
Angry Birds (For a little fun)
Default Browser
CNET news
Compass
Droid Overclock
Droid Light
Google Earth
Facebook
Fancy Widget (HTC Clock type widget)
Fissiom Rom Manager
Google Goggles (Take pictures of things and automagically googles them)
Iheartradio
NFL mobile
XDA app of course
Just a few apps I use on my phone.

Thanks Mike for the list..
I do have Ad Free, Angry Birds, Facebook, Google Goggles n XDA apps..
Will give compass a try (donno how useful it is for me though).. CNET news and Google earth also seem to be good options...
About Droid overclock.. I did try Milestone overclock n was able to overclock my phone to 1300 MHz.. but my battery doesnt seem to last long (even without overclocking it hardly lasts a day).. Do u guys have a similar issue without battery?? If yes, can you suggest some ways to conserve it??
@orkillakilla: I have ASTRO.. Is Android mate a better option??

sahilarora911 said:
Thanks Mike for the list..
I do have Ad Free, Angry Birds, Facebook, Google Goggles n XDA apps..
Will give compass a try (donno how useful it is for me though).. CNET news and Google earth also seem to be good options...
About Droid overclock.. I did try Milestone overclock n was able to overclock my phone to 1300 MHz.. but my battery doesnt seem to last long (even without overclocking it hardly lasts a day).. Do u guys have a similar issue without battery?? If yes, can you suggest some ways to conserve it??
@orkillakilla: I have ASTRO.. Is Android mate a better option??
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Im guessing since you have the Milestone 2 you prolly don't have it ROMed which I dont think you can at this point and time. There in lies your problem, the MotoBlur absolutely HATES batterys. Before I ROMed my phone I could barely last a day with mild useage, I can now last at least a day and a half. With overclocked =P.
To conserve use WiFi whenever possible. Put the screen brightness as low as you can tolerate it. If you don't mind disconnect your facebook account from your phone (That is constantly pulling data which is a main cause of battery drain).
Also, If you just got the phone I'm sure you are using it a ton which may drop off as time goes on (Once you get used to having this amazing mini computer in your pocket lol) which will drop the battery usage that display uses.

I also use "Data counter widget" because the native data counter bonkers :-(
There are Engadget, xda and Facebook apps in the store.
For internet tethering I use PdaNet - great app!
PowerAMP is my favorite music player. Haven't played much with it though.
QuickDic as dictionary.
QuickPic is okay, I use native Gallery.
Shakespeare App is great. All his books for free!
Widgetsoid to create my own widgets. Like it alot.
As for games I'm currently looking for a strong mills game. I have downloaded all mills game from the store but they all suck. Way too easy. The same for "Stratego" clone Legions...nice, but way too easy...
iPhone has a better choice for apps...really sucks

miketoasty said:
Also, If you just got the phone I'm sure you are using it a ton which may drop off as time goes on (Once you get used to having this amazing mini computer in your pocket lol) which will drop the battery usage that display uses.
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That is surely true..
But I dont think we Milestone 2 users are gonna see a custom ROM anytime soon... though m keeping my fingers crossed...
@oTToToTenTanz: Data counter is a good suggestion.. m nt too keen on games (except for angry birds) as I use my PSP for that...

Freezing Apps on Pro / Running Rooted GB

I love Gingerbread on the Pro, and love having it rooted (kudos to P3), but have noticed that its a little trickier to freeze unwanted apps (via Titanium Backup) without stumbling upon system conflicts.
Note - I use Launcher Pro Plus for my launcher app. I also use Handcent for SMS and K9 for all my email (4 gmail/google apps accounts); no MS Exchange
Thus far, the things I have successfully frozen:
Bookmarks Widget
CityID
Email
Email Authenticator
Files
Flickr
Help Center
Home screen tips
LastFM
Messaging
My Verizon Mobile
Myspace
New & Weather
News
NFS Shift
Orkut
Photobucket
Quickoffice
Rich Location
Skype mobile
Skyrock Authenticator
Social Messaging
Social Messaging Services
Social Networking
Social Sharing
Social Status
Task Manager
Toggle Widgets
V Cast Apps
Voice Commands
VZ Navigator
Weather
Yahoo Contacts

Thanks for the list. You've rooted GB on the Pro?

LeoBloom. said:
Thanks for the list. You've rooted GB on the Pro?
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Yes - rooted GB via Team Black Hat

in my experience, freezing the authenticators seems to cause my motorola contacts to force close; e.g. I can't open any contacts. Not sure if skyrock messes anything up but probably check just in case

clifference said:
in my experience, freezing the authenticators seems to cause my motorola contacts to force close; e.g. I can't open any contacts. Not sure if skyrock messes anything up but probably check just in case
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Agree. I have gone through several iterations arriving at the list that results with no force closes. So far, so good.

I've frozen DLNA as well, but it still seems to show up on my watchdog so I had to rename the apk to get rid of it.
Android Live Wallpapers
Adservice
Desk Home
Help Center
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
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As far as I know, there are 2 apps for DLNA. The first has the obvious name of DLNA but there is a second one where it has a different name but has "dlna" in the service name. Found using SystemApkManager

great list!

I followed this list and everything went great (but I did not freeze anything, I just cut & paste all apps on my SD card), except I lost my Messaging application (duh!) So I put the messaging APK back in the system/app folder and restarted, but the Messaging app still doesn't show in the app drawer. Any ideas? Am I supposed to "ADB Push" it?

Help Anyone?
Update: So I was trying to flash the TBH Gingerbread files via recovery & the flashing was aborted! But when I rebooted I found that my Messaging app has been restored Talk about lucky.

Help！How to ROOT the droid pro
jhalsey205 said:
Yes - rooted GB via Team Black Hat
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Help！How to ROOT the droid pro

Kudos for the list, and GB on Pro
I too am an avid Gingerbread Boy on Droid Pro. I had a Pro for almost 3 years, running v 2.3.4 (OTA updates from Froyo to GB 2.3.3, then OTW to 2.3.4), but never realized I couldn't root on 2.3.4 so I found a blog by Sarat Marudhuri, "Rooting For Dummies," and was all set to begin following his steps, including flashing back to 2.3.3.
This past Saturday, after a week of thinking my battery was becoming toasted as I couldn't maintain a good 3G signal and the battery kept wearing out in no time because when 3G returned and the Bloatwares all got happy and started up again, I was still avidly pursuing root. Sunday Page Plus had a major server shutdown, both web and phones, and my broker, Prepaid Online, told me all about it, and asked that I keep trying. At 20 minutes before 9 (central), I managed to score on the call in, and hit the "hold circle" with muzak for about 39 minutes, then got a recording stating the office hours, and the office was closed, so try tomorrow. A buddy of mine is manager of a corporate store, and had a Pro that someone had traded in, so he gave it to me. To my surprise, it was pristine in condition, and was still on 2.3.3! Now this evening, I've spent the past 5 hours working through Sarat's blog and yes, I am now officially "ROOTED" although I'm going to stick with the current version and avoid 2.3.4. I used his list to freeze at that Verizon Bloatware, and confirmed his list with your's!
Hats off to XDA-developers for giving us such a great resource to streamline our Android phones!

facebook showed up on the market

Not tab optimized

Er, I hate Facebook. But, can't you just use the browser for it?

Friendcaster works great on the tab!

mj0528 said:
Friendcaster works great on the tab!
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I have it, I paid for it because it work great but then it was updated and tab optimized and the issues began. Some stuff will not show up on status updates, I can no longer sync to my contacts, which was great because my texting app (heywire) would show a picture of the person I'm texting with. Also if I click a photo someone posted it shows a completely different photo.
All that also happens on my cell phone along with the tab. I check it in the web browser now but sometimes the app was just faster and more easy to used.

Even though it's not optimized, I'm glad they finally updated it to include support for tablets. I was using the Samsung Social Hub before and just installed Overcome's ROM so I can get rid of the Hub now.

I tried FriendMe, Friend Caster, and just found Facebook (official?) apps. I still prefer to use the browser...
Facebook app keeps force closing. Can't check friend list. And it seems slow to load anything. For me the web-based UI is what I am familiar with and the one I seem to keep going back to.

[Q] [EC09] Debinged issues

so i installed the eco9 dibinged over the ec09 stock deodexed. all fine and dandy except if i try to play a vimeo video from a FB post or a tweet the browser force closes and when updating the service using *22899 soon as it is done the phone process force closes. I have tryed redownloading and installing the ec09 debinged and if i load the ec09 stock deodexed everything works fine. i just hate bing and all the bloat on there. any ideas what to try?

cnorm5623 said:
so i installed the eco9 dibinged over the ec09 stock deodexed. all fine and dandy except if i try to play a vimeo video from a FB post or a tweet the browser force closes and when updating the service using *22899 soon as it is done the phone process force closes. I have tryed redownloading and installing the ec09 debinged and if i load the ec09 stock deodexed everything works fine. i just hate bing and all the bloat on there. any ideas what to try?
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Pay for Root Explorer from the market. Then debloat and debing your phone manually. I can show you how if you buy Root Explorer.

Yea I have root explorer what do I need to do?
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA

In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.

Awesome thank you!!! So far so good.
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA

samuelhadams said:
In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
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Would you happen to know the barebone minimum our phone needs apk wise to run? Would like to slim a rom down for my son who has my gf replacement continuum.
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ciscogee said:
Would you happen to know the barebone minimum our phone needs apk wise to run? Would like to slim a rom down for my son who has my gf replacement continuum.
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Your son? Starting him off a little young, ain't ya? It's gonna depend on what you want it to do. If it won't be making calls, then dialer tab, dialer storage, and contacts can all go., no internet, the radio can go. So on and so forth. What you gonna give him the ability to do? Then we can tell ta.
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He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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ciscogee said:
He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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I'll look this evening, if sam doesn't beat me to it
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ciscogee said:
He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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Here is the list. I'm also PM'ing it to you. Figured I'd post it here, for those who want it.
FIRST OFF: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I'm pretty sure about most of these. There are a couple I could be wrong on. Anyone who see's something that isn't right, please say something.
411 search
411 search
accounts and sync
syncs your facebook, google accounts etc
backup assistant
useless contact backup
badge provider
Not sure. Verify that one
bing search
crapware
blockbuster
crapware
bluetooth
the actual bluetooth app
bt opp
bluetooth storage
btpbap
Not sure, on this one.
bt testmode
Or this one.
booksphone
Google books, I believe
browser
obviuous
buddies now
crapware
calendar prov.
calendar services
call settings
in call settings.
camera
camera software
camera firm
the firmware
car cradle
crapware
clock package
This should be standalone, but make sure it doesn't have any ticker dependencies
datacreate
crapware (I believe)
days
crapware
deskcradle
crapware
dialertab
the phone app
divx
codec app for movies
dlna
allshare crap
dualclock
obvious
dualclock2
ditto
dun
wifi hotspot, I'm pretty sure
email
sammy e'mail
facebook
obvious
gallery3d
gallery app
gmail
obvious
cityid
crapware
myverizon
crapware
scrabble
crapware
tetris
crapware
vcast music
crapware (Getting redundant, isn't it?)
vcast video
crapware
info alarm
crapware
inputevent
I'm pretty sure this has to do with calendar event
flash
obvious
kindle
obvious
latinime
This should be smileys
latinimetut
and the tutorial
livewallpaperpicker
sammy wallpaper chooser
market updater*
delete, only if you don't want newer version of market. If you delete market, I'd
be sure to delete this, as well.
mediahub
sammy media client (all in one music. video)
memo
memo pad
mini
diary crapware
music player
works with media hub, not dependent
music service
same thing
myfiles
sd card file reader
my music launcher
launches my music app delete, if you delete my music standalone
my music standalone
music player
phone
obvious
phoneutil
plays with phone. I'd delete all phone apps or none.
phone crash notifier
obvious
phone err service
not sure.. 911?
picotts
text to speech engine
protips
the initial tutorial, when you first opened your phone
rssprovider
rss feed provider
sasamsung widget (all of them.)
crapware, galore
screen capture
obvious
sdm
I belive this is the firmware update engine. Useless, now
skype
obvious
snsaccount
ticker account app
sns provider
ticker account data service
street
street view for gmaps
swype
obvious
talk
gtalk
tatlivewallpaper (all of them)
obvious
telephony provider
service provider for the actual phone app (transmissions)
thinkdroid
think free office
titckertape
(need to remove the button, too or you'll crash framework)
calculator
obvious
calendar
obvious
twitter
obvious
twwallpaperchooser
the non live wallpaper chooser
vcast tones
crapware (MORE!?)
vcast gravity
the signature for froyo. Not sure about this one. should be fine to delete
videoplayer
obvious
visual vm
crapware
vnav
vznav (crap)
voicerecorder
obvious
voice search
voice to speech engine
vsuite
vcast crap
vvm service
data provider for vvm
weatherprovider
weatherbug data
writeandgo
another 'word processor'
youtube
obvious
z7
works with mail, and something else. Don't recall what.
z7 rel ui
signature app for z7
I'd advise moving these to SDCARD until you are sure there are no issues.
If anyone deletes/moves something, and it causes issues, shoot me a PM, and I'll adjust the list, accordingly.

Txwolf1980 said:
Here is the list. I'm also PM'ing it to you. Figured I'd post it here, for those who want it.
FIRST OFF: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I'm pretty sure about most of these. There are a couple I could be wrong on. Anyone who see's something that isn't right, please say something.
411 search 411 search
accounts and sync syncs your facebook, google accounts etc
backup assistant useless contact backup
badge provider Not sure. Verify that one
bing search crapware
blockbuster crapware
bluetooth the actual bluetooth app
bt opp bluetooth storage
btpbap Not sure, on this one.
bt testmode Or this one.
booksphone Google books, I believe
browser obviuous
buddies now crapware
calendar prov. calendar services
call settings in call settings.
camera camera software
camera firm the firmware
car cradle crapware
clock package This should be standalone, but make sure it doesn't have any ticker dependencies
datacreate crapware (I believe)
days crapware
deskcradle crapware
dialertab the phone app
divx codec app for movies
dlna allshare crap
dualclock obvious
dualclock2 ditto
dun wifi hotspot, I'm pretty sure
email sammy e'mail
facebook obvious
gallery3d gallery app
gmail obvious
cityid crapware
myverizon crapware
scrabble crapware
tetris crapware
vcast music crapware (Getting redundant, isn't it?)
vcast video crapware
info alarm crapware
inputevent I'm pretty sure this has to do with calendar event
flash obvious
kindle obvious
latinime This should be smileys
latinimetut and the tutorial
livewallpaperpicker sammy wallpaper chooser
market updater* delete, only if you don't want newer version of market. If you delete market, I'd be sure to delete this, as well.
mediahub sammy media client (all in one music. video)
memo memo pad
mini diary crapware
music player works with media hub, not dependent
music service same thing
myfiles sd card file reader
my music launcher launches my music app delete, if you delete my music standalone
my music standalone music player
phone obvious
phoneutil plays with phone. I'd delete all phone apps or none.
phone crash notifier obvious
phone err service not sure.. 911?
picotts text to speech engine
protips the initial tutorial, when you first opened your phone
rssprovider rss feed provider
sasamsung widget (all of them.) crapware, galore
screen capture obvious
sdm I belive this is the firmware update engine. Useless, now
skype obvious
snsaccount ticker account app
sns provider ticker account data service
street street view for gmaps
swype obvious
talk gtalk
tatlivewallpaper (all of them) obvious
telephony provider service provider for the actual phone app (transmissions)
thinkdroid think free office
titckertape (need to remove the button, too or you'll crash framework)
calculator obvious
calendar obvious
twitter obvious
twwallpaperchooser the non live wallpaper chooser
vcast tones crapware (MORE!?)
vcast gravity the signature for froyo. Not sure about this one. should be fine to delete
videoplayer obvious
visual vm crapware
vnav vznav (crap)
voicerecorder obvious
voice search voice to speech engine
vsuite vcast crap
vvm service data provider for vvm
weatherprovider weatherbug data
writeandgo another 'word processor'
youtube obvious
z7 works with mail, and something else. Don't recall what.
z7 rel ui signature app for z7
I'd advise moving these to SDCARD until you are sure there are no issues.
If anyone deletes/moves something, and it causes issues, shoot me a PM, and I'll adjust the list, accordingly.
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Your the man tx
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ciscogee said:
Your the man tx
Sent from my SCH-I400 using xda premium
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Thank you, sir. I don't know why the forum put all of the text together, even though I left spaces between the app name and description, but i edited it for clarity, if it'll make it easier to decipher.

Txwolf1980 said:
Thank you, sir. I don't know why the forum put all of the text together, even though I left spaces between the app name and description, but i edited it for clarity, if it'll make it easier to decipher.
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And I was wondering a way to thank u more than once for that post
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samuelhadams said:
In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
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I've tried to do this, and everytime I get an error message telling me I can't move or delete because the file is read only.

sgtwebb1 said:
I've tried to do this, and everytime I get an error message telling me I can't move or delete because the file is read only.
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Did you change to r/w in root explorer, it defaults to r/o which won't let you make changes.
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Wouldn't using Titanium Backup to uninstall the apps accomplish the same thing as using Root Explorer? Plus no FC's!

DJMaj07 said:
Wouldn't using Titanium Backup to uninstall the apps accomplish the same thing as using Root Explorer? Plus no FC's!
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It's a matter of preference. Both will do fine.

Txwolf1980 said:
It's a matter of preference. Both will do fine.
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I've never understood why people pay for Root Explorer. There's so many great free options to do the same tasks.

DJMaj07 said:
I've never understood why people pay for Root Explorer. There's so many great free options to do the same tasks.
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I like the ui better. But, to be honest, I've switched to rom toolbox. It does it all.
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OK, I removed a boatload of bloatware using Root Explorer.
Still have a couple issues;
Even though I removed the .apk and corresponding .odex files, restarted phone, I still have these in apps, and all work when opened;
Facebook
IM
Verizon video
VCast tones
And, even though the Bing icon is out of apps, it still opens Bing Search with a long press on the search icon on phone.
Any thoughts on how to get rid of these?
I've went all thru Root explorer and can't find these files anywhere, but they're still on the phone.
Thanks

Official KitKat Bloatware Removal Thread

Hi All,
Now that most people have installed the OTA KitKat and knowing that this will be the last update Motorola makes for our phones, I thought it would be a good idea to make a collection of all the system bloatware that came with the OTA that is able to be removed safely without affecting the performance or running of the phone (either frozen or deleted for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and already rooted). Lord knows I have been waiting a long long time to delete these apps and not just have them frozen! I'll keep a running list in the second post, hopefully in alphabetical order, as people post up any that I have forgotten about or didn't think of.
Again, this is just a list of everything that is safe to remove if people don't use the apps / functions, not necessarily things that have to be removed.
...there's nothing like freeing up memory and RAM 8)
EDIT: The hard ones to pick out are gonna be all the "com.***" ones since they're not quite as self-explanatory...

List of bloat:
- Amazon
- Amazon App Suite
- Amazon Kindle
- Amazon mp3
- Android Keyboard (AOSP)
- Android Live Wallpapers
- Audible
- Black Hole
- Bubbles
- Calculator
- Calendar
- Circles
- Cloud
- Cloud Print - thanks @jldr
- Droid Zap
- Email
- Face Unlock
- Google Play Books
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newstand
- Google Search - thanks @Sefirosu
- Hangouts
- Help - thanks @scobywhru
- Homescreen Tips
- HP Print Service Plugin - thanks @jldr
- IMDb
- Live Wallpaper Picker
- Magic Smoke Wallpapers
- Maps - thanks @Sefirosu
- MC3
- Messaging
- Movie Studio
- Music Visualization Wallpapers
- NFL Mobile - thanks @jldr
- Phase Beam
- Quickoffice
- RealRacing2
- Setup 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.0 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.3 - thanks @scobywhru
- Slacker Radio
- SmartActions
- SmartActions Android Framework
- SmartActions Proprietary Framework
- Talkback
- Translate
- Verizon Tones
- VZ Navigator
- Weather
- YouTube
- Zappos

Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?

jldr said:
Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?
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Like I said, they are removable but some people will want to keep them. Personally I keep the YouTube, but use a scientific calculator app and don't use live wallpaper.

Ah I see, I didn't think those were removable. I thought they were system apps.

You're right, they are system apps, but can be frozen and for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and rooted on KK they can be deleted (using TiBu or some other method). Everything listed above is considered a "system app". But, the list is not comprehensive.
That's why I was looking for input for some of the more not-as-obviously-named removable apps. I know there was a list floating around somewhere, I had a bunch of stuff frozen from that list whilst on JB. But now that our phones are not going to be updated any further (and if there is a surprise update that comes to us, we can put the phones back to "stock" using SamuriHL's RSD Lite scripts), I'd like to delete them permanently.

Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking

Guys, I'm sorry to crash this thread, I'm locked and on 9.18.64. Since your all rooted and unlocked, I was wondering if anyone of you would be willing to give SamuriHl a freshly installed and rooted system dump using the safestrap method he outlines in the KitKat root tracking thread? I'd like to be a guinea pig for this one chance root experiment. That's the only missing piece ATM.

jldr said:
Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking
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Ah, yes. How could I miss that one. Added, thanks!

Would love to help @MarcusWhite but I do not have SS installed. I also am a pretty big noob about these things, I can'do much past rooting/unlocking/custom ROMs.
Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.

jldr said:
Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.
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Good call, I forgot all the wifi printer apps!
Updated the list with some others that I found as well (Email, Hangouts, Messaging, Music Visualization Wallpapers, etc.) All can be safely removed, but make sure you have another method for emailing or texting, lol

Freeze bloatware
K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.

onecoolfirefighter said:
K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.
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Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.

I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.

Sefirosu said:
I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.
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Thanks! They've been added to the list.
The "do not touch" app list sounds like a good idea, but I was thinking of just leaving it as whatever isn't listed in post #2 shouldn't be touched

LifeAsADroid said:
Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.
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Haha. How do you like your crow prepared? Despite the fact that root and unlock is now available again for a short time, anyway, I think he was showing how there is some freeze ability without root with this update.
With that said, I can't find acoustic warning in tibu, is it now called something else? I can't stand the auto volume drop when I hook to my truck radio.
Update: nvm. Its no longer standalone. Its in android os. You have to use xposed to disable it.

Something I killed in this list removed my speech to text capability. The microphone icon is gone from the keyboard when texting. Any idea what did it?
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If I had to guess, I'd say it was removing Google search that did the trick. That's when mine disappeared anyway. I rarely use the option so it didn't bother me too much. If you haven't uninstalled Google search, then you should just be able to verify Google voice typing is enabled. If that doesn't do it, you might also have to long press the button to the left of the space bar and assign the mic to that key.
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I think you can add
Help
Home Screen Tips
You can add the following as well since they aren't needed once you setup the device.
Setup 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 1.3
Setup Wizard 1.0

OK, I'll bite. It seems I'm only able to freeze bloatware. I try uninstalling w/ TBU, but they're all still there. Since I don't see any reason to have to restore them for an OTA, I'd just like to get rid of them.