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[highlight]Rules for Posting New Threads in the Blue Angel WM6 Development Section[/highlight]
[highlight]Definition and General Purpose of this section:[/highlight]
This section of www.xda-developers.com is for the device code-name Blue Angel by HTC. There exists several name variations of this device which can be located in the wiki. If your device [highlight]DOES NOT[/highlight] have any of the names found in the link above, then you are in the wrong section of the forum. You can find your device here. If your device is not listed in there, then you are in the wrong site altogether. However, your questions might be answered by posting them in the Q&A area.
The purpose of this forum is for the development and advancement of a device that was left 4 dead too soon. While questions are welcome, we require all members of all statuses to use either Google or the site's Search Engine before opening a new thread or making a post.
[highlight]Who Should Open New Threads?[/highlight]
Anyone making any type of contribution towards the Blue Angel (i.e. New Roms, New Software, Ports, Skins, etc).
If you are questioning why can something not be used in the Blue Angel, [highlight]Do Not Open A New Thread Asking For It.[/highlight] More than likely, that question/request has either been asked here, in the Development and Hacking Section, in the Questions and Answers Section, in the General Section.... you get my point. This takes me back to a point that I want to make absolutely clear.... [highlight]search before you ask.[/highlight]
An example of this that comes to mind is the "My 4/8/16/32 GB SD does not work with the Blue Angel" or "I applied the patch I found in the Dev&Hacking section and now my SD/my wireless does not work"
Most of us are always searching for things, stuff, and/or patches that will make the latest softwares run in our devices. If, for instance, you want to find out if TF3D works in the BA or not... you gotta search!!! If you want to find out why it doesn't run, search and then read (or ask in the Q&A section). Believe me, all of these answers are out there in this site.
The next post is equally as important... so please don't skip it!!
Flaming and Courtesy (taken from Tweakman's Thread)
FLAMING & ARGUING RULES
MUST READ ENTIRE POST
Attention All XDA members. Over the past year, "Flaming" & Arguing has become two of the biggest problems on XDA. For those of you that do not know what "Flaming" is, it is unnessicary, immature, criticizm of another member, for mistakes, "noob" questions, or any other reason.
THIS NOW HAS TO STOP.
"Flaming" another user for a mistake, such as posting in the wrong section, or asking a noob type question, will no longer be tolerated. ANY MEMBER (OF ANY STATUS) CAUGHT FLAMING ANOTHER MEMBER FOR ANY REASON, WILL BE SUBJECT TO DISCIPLINARY ACTION. This just will not be tolerated guys and gals. XDA isn't here for only tech savy members, but for members of all types, Noobs included.
Anyone can make a mistake. Anyone can post in the wrong section if there new here, or even if they've been here a while. THATS WHY WE HAVE POLICIEIS FOR THESE MISTAKES. Over the past few months, we have worked out ways upon ways to help people stop posting in the wrong section, and to help make asking questions easier. "FLAMING" does not speed this process up, or help it in anyway, but only adds to the problem.
Now , about Arguing with other members. We sometimes get members that come here just to start problems. They will post untrue comments, or make ridiculous statements, only in the attempt to start fights and trouble. And most of the time they succeed.
THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED EITHER. If a member says something to you, or in a thread , that isn't true, or if a member is trying to start an argument ro trouble, DO NOT TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO ARGUE WITH THAT PERSON!! You setting an arguing with another member, will not solve any problems, but instead will only cause more.
If you are in a thread, arguing with someone , other members will join in, and the thread will eventually become cluttered up and of topic. The person starting the trouble gets what they want, and nothing ever is resolved. So instead of taking it upon yourself to argue with them, come straight to me, or to any moderator on this site, and report that member to us.
We will check things out and take the appropriate actions. However, if you are caught arguing back and forth with another member, for an off related subject in any thread, you will be held accountable and responsible just as the other member will NO MATTER WHO STARTS THE ARGUMENT.
Come on guys, XDA wasn't made to argue, and to start trouble with people. It's here to help you and me get what we want out of our devices. AND THATS WHAT IT WILL BE USED FOR. You all have done great witht he recent changes to different sections, and threads, and the improvments to D&H Are amazing. If you can do that, you can do this without any trouble.
So lets give it a shot guys. I mean come one, "Can't we all just get along"
i have read it and yes!
great utopy men!
Keep the good work!
Thank you for creating this Egz...it's about time to put some order here on our BA section. And about time to have a new moderator for BA Thread.
Can't we all just get along
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Tottaly Agree With These Rules
And a little suggestion for addition to the rules, our good admins added the rating feature for a reason - so al of the users who want to thank a thread just rate for it with the amount of stars you think it deserve
thanks posts are about at least 50% of all posts in these forums
You got my vote for excellence my friend. Now lets all follow them rules and enjoy a smother, friendlier community.
i have read it and yes!
This forum is our home, and the second-serves all...
and all the love and thanks to the owners and observers and members .
And special thanks to the developer (xplode)It is worth it..
My unconditional support to this forum!!!!!
xplode said:
And a little suggestion for addition to the rules, our good admins added the rating feature for a reason - so al of the users who want to thank a thread just rate for it with the amount of stars you think it deserve
thanks posts are about at least 50% of all posts in these forums
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totally agreed.
i fully agree with u
hi all
im fully agree with u,and im with xplode suggestion about rating,and i have another suggestion,in some sites in any thread there is a(thnaks)bottun in any thread,if the reader wants to thank,he will press this bottun and his name will appeare in the end of subject owner and thats all,the posts should be focus on the subject(problems and the ways to solve it or any useful idea for BA).
i will share a picture to know my idea
People who put in endless efforts expects thanks and appreciations whereas the common users want more and more and forget the untold efforts of contributors.
April 1 said:
People who put in endless efforts expects thanks and appreciations whereas the common users want more and more and forget the untold efforts of contributors.
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And possibly a donation specially from those who make the special requests to have software developed to their taste and comfort. So I will add that to the suggestion of voting... I've seen where some folks say.... Hey ILoveYou, I really love your software, I wish it'll have LOVE and TENDERNESS. I'm sending a donation for your efforts into future development. (In other words... ) I'm sure you all understand what that donation meant and that there are great chances that if its possible, the love will be given.
Have a lovely day friends.
egzthunder1 said:
FLAMING & ARGUING RULES
MUST READ ENTIRE POST
Attention All XDA members. Over the past year, "Flaming" & Arguing has become two of the biggest problems on XDA. For those of you that do not know what "Flaming" is, it is unnessicary, immature, criticizm of another 。。。。。。"
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XDA-DEV-BlueAngel是个家，和谐靠大家！不引起不必要的争论
Can the Admin please edit forum with restriction on which usergroups can post new topics in the dev threads, ie maybe Senior and above or people with over a certain amount of posts etc.
This would virtually stop all the questions/help etc going in the dev thread by the n00bs and also cut down on the work that mods have to do because im quite sure mods are sick of having to move 100's of topics a day in the forums (not just HD2).
Wouldn't the restriction make things much more clean and organised?
[edit] I Should have probably put this in the general forum lol (the irony)
I am a Global Moderator on our forum for FIAT automobiles (www.fiatisti.hr) and we have a restrictions for any people who not have 50 posts and do not right to write in some forums. This is a lower limit to create threads.
In this way we have a more lowest junk on forum. People doe`s not have to use search option on forum and think that is much easier way to ask some people to resolve our problem.
+1 good idea
Oh God please, this would be great. If people cant be bothered to read on their own here, I see no reason why anyone else should bother.
+2 that would be nice
TheATHEiST said:
Can the Admin please edit forum with restriction on which usergroups can post new topics in the dev threads, ie maybe Senior and above or people with over a certain amount of posts etc.
This would virtually stop all the questions/help etc going in the dev thread by the n00bs and also cut down on the work that mods have to do because im quite sure mods are sick of having to move 100's of topics a day in the forums (not just HD2).
Wouldn't the restriction make things much more clean and organised?
[edit] I Should have probably put this in the general forum lol (the irony)
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Sounds good to me, I hate having to read through useless post to get info on a new build.
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The problem with this is, people start spamming to reach the post count.
But +1 to the idea from me nonetheless.
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I do kind of see the point of this, but i became a senior member by posting in the dev forums.
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
Nice example
kam333 said:
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
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kam333 said:
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
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Important and helpful threads like that can be moved. At least lesser clutter.
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we an make an option if a juniour member wants to open an important thread to pm a moderator with it's topic
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we an make an option if a juniour member wants to open an important thread to pm a moderator with it's topic
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That actually wont work, that would if anything overload all the mods with posts or PMs asking for this and that.
I too agree about the useless posts to get post counts up, But not to cause any rift at all, but im going to go against this as well like kam333 about post counts or even being a senior member, and the reason is upper level people are just as guilty of doing this as well. The only difference is they have the ability to move their posts after they have it seen. If you take this post for example:
Moved: [REQUEST]FULL Desire HD TMOUS Nand Build-NOT Squashed or Stripped Down-I WILL PAY $$
Originally Posted By: dharvey4651
This was posted on the NAND Development forum, to get attention, and then was moved by the poster (obviously a mod) to the HD2 Android General Discussion form.
Personally do I feel thats right too? No, That to me is abusing your power as a mod.
If anything, maybe limit junior members to only be allowed to post in the general forum of each section? Like General for HD2 winmo, and General for HD2 Android, this way it limits all the places they can post to ask the same questions.
Guys im not saying that restricting it to senior and above will cut everything out, Only that it will cut allot of it out, probably 90%.
If you check dev forums on regular basis you will know that 90% of the off-topic posts that get put in there and end up getting moved are from new members.
Restricting new members to not been able to post here will help a great deal, sure some retarded senior members or maybe by simple error will post in dev but it will be a hell of allot less off-topic then it is now.
There will also be a lot of new members not able to post when it's really correct for them to do so. The only correct answer is to ignore badly posted stuff and let mods do their job.
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That actually wont work, that would if anything overload all the mods with posts or PMs asking for this and that.
I too agree about the useless posts to get post counts up, But not to cause any rift at all, but im going to go against this as well like kam333 about post counts or even being a senior member, and the reason is upper level people are just as guilty of doing this as well. The only difference is they have the ability to move their posts after they have it seen. If you take this post for example:
Moved: [REQUEST]FULL Desire HD TMOUS Nand Build-NOT Squashed or Stripped Down-I WILL PAY $$
Originally Posted By: dharvey4651
This was posted on the NAND Development forum, to get attention, and then was moved by the poster (obviously a mod) to the HD2 Android General Discussion form.
Personally do I feel thats right too? No, That to me is abusing your power as a mod
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I 100% completely agree with this. Not only do i feel that it is an abuse of position, but that the topic itself would get any ordinary non menber in trouble. It is so close to being over the "line" it is an open abuse of the rules that everyone else has to abide by. How can it be against the rules for a dev / chef to say "pay me for xxx and i will make it for you" but NOT against the rules to say "i will pay someone to make xxx" ?
I would report the thread but somehow i doubt anything would happen.
But back to the topic in hand, some sort of limitation of posting rights *is* required but i dont think it should be based on post count (take Cedesmith for example - less than 300 posts but a very active and intelligent developer), perhaps the more elegant solution is a time based limitation? eg, you are unable to post in development threads until you have been a registerd user, and you profile is set to the current device for say, 2 weeks ?
i think that the time restriction is more viable than the post count restriction for the simple reason you aren't going to get noobs signing up just to post the question if they have to wait 2 weeks. Where as if u put a post count restriction they will just spam to reach the count required
Ricey
johncmolyneux said:
There will also be a lot of new members not able to post when it's really correct for them to do so. The only correct answer is to ignore badly posted stuff and let mods do their job.
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Did you read the topic properly, this topic is regarding the dev threads not general stuff. If they are a new member then they have no reason to post in those threads and if they are a dev then can ask a mod or admin to maybe move them into a "dev" usergroup and that way they can post.
The whole point is that we shouldnt need to ignore badly posted stuff, the dev section is simply for posting dev stuff not n00b questions.
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i think that the time restriction is more viable than the post count restriction for the simple reason you aren't going to get noobs signing up just to post the question if they have to wait 2 weeks. Where as if u put a post count restriction they will just spam to reach the count required
Ricey
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I think you are missing point slightly, Once a n00b tries posting in there and gets a message about not been allowed because its a dev forum, they are not going to purposely spam other forums just so they can post in there.
Its about restricting n00bs from accidentally posting in there because they didnt bother to read forum titles.
by the time somebody has a certain post count or has been registered member for a amount of time its less likely for them to post in a n00b question/topic in the dev thread.
I dont know, so I have to ask the question, Is there the ability to stop a noob from posting in the dev forum, but allow him to reply? One reason I ask this, is if the answer is no they wont be able to reply either, then the course of action is unjust, because if there is any bugs in a build they cant reply to the thread, if they can, then that might be an alternative, but here is another twist, as well all know post counts can go up very quickly, hence just replying "Thanks" or "I'm going to try this" counts too (Just used for examples).
But I think personally there should be another level now that I just thought of it, Like we have Senior member status, there should be a DEV status, and set the forum if possible that ONLY DEV's can post where others can reply, and if someone is a DEV they can easily PM a mod and the mod can change their status. Or if they want to contribute in the Dev forum like they made a kernel or rom, then that would constitue them to post in that forum.
You need to understand and look into vBulletin before you ask for changes to the forum. This is not going to happen.
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Hey there,
I, like many of you, am sick and tired of people not understanding simple concepts about the Development section of the forums. I seem to have come up with a solution that will allow devs to speak freely and easily and at the same time keep us informed of their progress to stop all the bs comments that I've been seeing.
I would love to say wipe the dev thread and start again, but I know that would be inconvenient for any mod or dev to do and so step one is to start a new sub-forum with a specific set of permissions. Remember that Verified Developers rank or whatever it was that xda opened registrations for not too long ago? My suggestion is make sure that only verified developers can post in this new subforum (called something like Atrix 4G Developers Chat) but allow all users to view it and click the thanks button (I will get to this in a second)
By creating a new forum It will allow;
Devs to release their latest inventions without all the spam
Devs to help each other without all the spam
All users will still be able to thank their favourite devs but CLICKING THE THANKS BUTTON
No-one will be pressuring the devs for an ETA on a release or update as they won't be able too, sure they can still start topics in the Q&A or general, but at least now it won't fill the release threads with crap.
Normal users will still be able to get in contact with devs if they have a suggestion or feedback (about bugs/problems not spam) via private messages, the freenode IRC or in the Q&A or general forums.
This is just a suggestion that I came up with quite a while ago but remembered last night when I was browsing xda on my phone and couldn't believe how many times I had to stop myself from posting more offtopic posts just to combat the already offtopic posts put there by others.
If you like this idea, please post your feedback here even if it is as simple as a +1 10char10char reply and hopefully this gets picked up and implemented if many users like it.
The way I see it the Dev can post the "meat and butter" in the Dev only forum and he or someone else can post a "feedback" thread in a more appropriate forum. This allows everyone to post what they want in response to the Dev and still have the real information in the Dev forum. The Dev, or another Dev could transcribe what is relevant to the Dev discussion.
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The way I see it the Dev can post the "meat and butter" in the Dev only forum and he or someone else can post a "feedback" thread in a more appropriate forum. This allows everyone to post what they want in response to the Dev and still have the real information in the Dev forum. The Dev, or another Dev could transcribe what is relevant to the Dev discussion.
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Kind of like Sogarth's latest post. It will work out wonderfully and people can still post "lol, whens it coming out dQQd? zomg thanks!" without cluttering his -real- post.
yea kinda like that but officially implemented.. I assume the same idea could be implemented to many phones not just the Atrix forum.
I don't know. The problem are the bad posts, not the place where they're posted. If the hypothetical dev doesn't care about feedback, he wouldn't read the responses anyway. If he does, he would have to go through the same bad posts, only that now it's in General.
I'd prefer a solution i've seen in other fora, in which users can upvote or downvote individual posts. Any post that gets downvoted too much gets buried, along with any quotes referring that post. It also gets automatically deleted after being buried for some time. We have a great community here, and i'm sure it would work quite well. A checkbox "show/hide buried threads" (where the OP got downvoted) would clean up silly questions in the dev forum.
The only catch is that it might require rewriting of the forum code.
^ upvote that idea - and adopting the idea early.
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I don't know. The problem are the bad posts, not the place where they're posted. If the hypothetical dev doesn't care about feedback, he wouldn't read the responses anyway. If he does, he would have to go through the same bad posts, only that now it's in General.
I'd prefer a solution i've seen in other fora, in which users can upvote or downvote individual posts. Any post that gets downvoted too much gets buried, along with any quotes referring that post. It also gets automatically deleted after being buried for some time. We have a great community here, and i'm sure it would work quite well. A checkbox "show/hide buried threads" (where the OP got downvoted) would clean up silly questions in the dev forum.
The only catch is that it might require rewriting of the forum code.
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I Agree... is there any VBulletin plugin to do that? I guess it is..
Fifow said:
I don't know. The problem are the bad posts, not the place where they're posted. If the hypothetical dev doesn't care about feedback, he wouldn't read the responses anyway. If he does, he would have to go through the same bad posts, only that now it's in General.
I'd prefer a solution i've seen in other fora, in which users can upvote or downvote individual posts. Any post that gets downvoted too much gets buried, along with any quotes referring that post. It also gets automatically deleted after being buried for some time. We have a great community here, and i'm sure it would work quite well. A checkbox "show/hide buried threads" (where the OP got downvoted) would clean up silly questions in the dev forum.
The only catch is that it might require rewriting of the forum code.
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I'd upvote this post!
Basically you're talking like the comments on Slashdot or StackExchange, right? I think that would be slick, although it would be a huge shift I think.
It looks like something like this might fit the bill.
Dislike Posts: Allows users to dislike a post. Great for situations where someone is spamming, posting ridiculous content etc.
Auto Collapse Disliked Post: Collapses a post so it doesnt show up by default when the number of Dislikes outnumber likes by 'X'
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Some days I'd kill for a "dislike" button that would downvote and hide posts.
Hi
My name is Tom and I'm one of the new moderators here. I like post-rock music, cooking and ROM making. If you have some issues/questions, please PM me and I'm sure we'll find a solution.
Some rules:
0. Follow the rules.
1. Post in the correct section
2. Respect each other
3. Report when you'll see some abusive posts.
See you soon
Hi, I'm Kenny and I like long walks on the beach......what? Oh, it's not that kind of intro? Oh OK.
Well hi all I have the distinct honor of sharing the Moderator roll here and hope to help keep this new forum fun for all.
I am honored to be your Friendly Neighborhood Moderator.
To keep me friendly though please do not get into flaming matches. If someone is disrespectful please mash the report button rather than engage them further. In other words don't feed the trolls.
Also please post questions in Q&A. Those are the biggies.
I have put out a few themes and ROMs for the Epic 4G so know what it is like from the developer side. So please respect the developers. Without them xda-developers would be xda-facebook or something.
Thank you all!
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Hi everyone,my name is Tasos and i have been assigned to be your new Forum Moderator along with Tom and Kenny.
If you have any problems don't hesitate to pm me siberian tiger
And don't forget the rules
Please review the rules and lets keep XDA the best place for fellowship and development.
And remember we are all here to have fun
This thread can now be used as a "Ask a moderator" thread. You can post your questions, concerns here. We will gladly help
Welcome aboard
Any news on future development for this device? Is this device a world seller?
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Welcome aboard
Any news on future development for this device? Is this device a world seller?
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Welcome
Just give Chainfire or some other developer some time to root this device. As it's Samsung, rooting it shouldn't be too difficult (I guess )
And yes, you can buy SIII Mini almost everywhere.
I was wondering if the rooting will allow cell unlock.
I am asking this to know what to do: wait for root or go to a Samsung service for cell unlock.
root will not unlock the device, but I wish some great devs will developing for this S3 mini, wich is a very great phone imho
Hello all,
I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm graffixnyc and I have recently been assigned to help moderate the forum. If you guys have any issues please do not hesitate to let me know. As always, please follow the rules and treat each other with respect.
as much as i would like to believe that the rules follow some logical flow and understanding and are in place due to experience and historical events that have taken place on the XDA forums
i have a small issue with the rule of not being able to post in the developer section until having made 10 posts
from my experience in doing some small dev work i would not want to be harassed directly for help with a solution that i provided
i would not want to be getting several PM's asking the same question from several different people all because they were not able to post their question on the thread where i provided the solution
since we are unable to post in a thread our questions or suggestions that leaves only one place to be able to post, the Q&A section
leading to the risk of multiple duplicate posts and resulting in more work for the moderators to clean up
what would be the correct way to get around this issue whilst still following the rules?
Hi fellow XDA members,
As you all may have noticed there has been a few changes in the moderation committee. There are new moderators for devices. New people, but that does not mean new rules. eagleeyetom had asked members in his proposal thread, to help out with the moderation. I asked if I could do an updated XDA behaviour thread and he agreed.
The rules of XDA stay the same no matter what, and apply to every member, even to Senior Mods. Heck, it even applies to the Admin himself. And as such, I feel it's only fair that we ourselves abide by them.
Therefore, this thread acts as a guide for new members and old ones alike, on how to behave on XDA. SpyderX has already made a thread on this, and it was even made a sticky, but still some members fail to abide by the rules. They still disregard the rules and, as a result, end up getting infractions or, in the worst cases, bans.
So if you want to avoid bans and infractions, read on.
1. Read through this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
You must go through the rules, at least once. The above link is the latest set of them. Keep your eyes open for any new announcements. They're usually visible on the upper bit of the website.
2. Do not steal others' work. Or in other words, as SpyderX has explained in his sticky, don't post work, usually ROMs, that:
- Is not your own original work (usually ROMs with your own code, not to be confused with soft-mods, are acceptable)
- Is ported from other devices without the permission of the original creator
- Is just a soft-mod over someone else's hard work
Only stock ROMs are exempt from this rule. And as kernels have to be compiled from source, meaning there is no way to soft-mod them without some work done, they too are considered development.
3. Behave with others. Do not use foul language; it doesn't make you any wiser than you already are. There are members who are just kids, therefore any pornographic content, vulgar comments and other “smart” ways of abusing your freedom on the Internet is strictly prohibited on XDA. Post anything that falls under such categories and you may find yourself banned the next day. No personal insults, trolling (except in the OT) and flaming. Trust me on this, it'll get you nowhere except out of XDA. And always use English in the threads. What language you use in groups doesn't really matter to us.
4. Post in the appropriate sections. More on that later. For now, just remember, both the Development sections are for development-related stuff, like bug-fixes, sharing source codes, bug-reports etc. Don't spam there. It's really annoying for any user to see their favourite threads full of spam and being closed down. Act wisely. Like an XDA-ian. Don't create unnecessary threads. If you wanna talk about anything non-dev, visit the OT. Do not ask for ETAs or for the dev's help in your problems, without a proper bug-report. There's a thread on how to do a bug-report: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935567 Read it thoroughly.
5. Instead of posting “Thanks for XXX”, click the THANKS button. This is a growing concern among many members. There are at least 1000 posts in every section that just say “Thanks”. These are considered spam and will eventually be deleted by a moderator and the poster may receive a warning. So instead of wasting time and energy to write thanks, click the THANKS button. It was made for that purpose. Use it.
6. When creating threads, be extra careful. Think, search and then discuss, in the words of SpyderX, not the other way round. Threads you create should be based on, or have valid content that can be discussed or used. And like #4, open up threads in the appropriate sections. Also before you create a thread, make sure there are no similar threads in the same device forum based on the same problems. And please don't create useless threads asking stupid questions.
7. Always be super kind to devs. They are not paid to bring you the stuff they do. Therefore if you can't donate, which you should if you can, always hit the thanks button when they are trying to help. If you misbehave with any dev, or any member alike, XDA will look after you.
8. Learn to post in the appropriate section.
- General section is for discussions and the all-famous OT thread
- Q&A section is for questions and answers
- Android Development section is for ROMs that are built from others' source, improved versions of others' ROMs etc.
- Original Android Development section is for original development like building ROMs from your own source, modifying someone's source and using it to build a ROM, self-compiled kernels, AIO toolkits etc.
Keep these guidelines in mind and you'll be able to stay in XDA for a long time. And please read all of it. Don't go TL;DR. Please feel free to drop in suggestions, or advice, here in the thread.
- Skeleton taken largely from SpyderX's "Behaviour guide" (which also you guys fail to follow. Thanks, bro.
SOME THINGS YOU GOTTA BE CLEAR ABOUT
Well, if you've read the first post, you'll know by now what XDA expects from you. You should also know that there are certain things that XDA finds very important. You may also not understand a couple of things here-and-there. This post intends to clarify all that.
1. Reading:
Reading posts on XDA will enlighten you. Really. Try it some time. As a newcomer you should read through all the stickies of your device's forum. It will not only help you find things, but also get used to XDA little by little. Even Senior Members read, so why can't you? Your motto here has to be: "Read more, post less useless stuff". Trust me it's the only way you'll ever survive in XDA (we're not that bad but we do know how to behave with ignorant people).
Basically, you wanna say on XDA, you need to read. A lot. You have to learn to understand that the OP (like me) usually works super-hard to post a new thread (again, like me), and expects you to read the whole of it before making a "smart" comment. You have to learn to respect that. It helps reduce spam, too, because there's a great possibility that the answer to your question is already in the thread.
So just read. Read before you post, even if it takes ages to read just the OP.
2. Searching:
The button's there for a reason. Search before you open up a new thread. It doesn't help any of us. 90% of the time the question's been answered already. That means there's a thread for that particular problem. Post there. Why create useless duplicate threads when you can find the answer in the other thread? However if, in the thread, your question has no answer or only part of the answer, you can create a new thread, provided the first one is really old and hasn't been updated in a long, long time. Posts that revive a thread after a long, long time are considered spam some times, especially ones that just say "Thanks for xxx and yyy". You can also search XDA with Google. Just add this to your search terms:
site:xda-developers.com
Please. Search. Reduce spam. Help yourself. Help XDA. Help the world (okay this bit's unnecessary).
3. Giving and getting thanks
Like I've said in the past, thank any developer who has been working hard just to bring you the stuff he/she brings. Not just devs; themers, contributors and, mostly, normal members help out a lot too. They ask for nothing really, except for a little recognition. Please thank them. It acts as an encouragement to continue their work, to continue helping members. It's not like clicking the button will rob you of your soul, or anything. It's free of cost.
That being said, don't go about thanking spammers. It only encourages them to spam more. We don't want that.
You'll see every member has a thanks meter. It's basically a count of the thanks they have got over time. It's not meant to be some kind of "prestige" meter, and therefore one must not post with the sole purpose of getting thanks. It gets you nowhere, trust me.
Anyways, this is how the bar fills up:
1st bar - 26
2nd bar - 51
3rd bar - 101
4th bar - 201
bug here, never gets to 5 bars, probably 501 if fixed.
6th bar - 1001
7th bar - 2001
8th bar - 5001
9th bar - 8001
Maxed! - 10000
4. User titles
If you've spent some time on XDA, you'll have noticed there are some titles given to members. Here's how they are given:
- Junior Member - New members with less than 30 (?) posts.
- Member - Members with more than 30 (?) but less than 100 posts.
- Senior Member - Members with 100+ posts.
- Recognized Contributor - A title given to members who have helped people with various problems. You can apply for this position or ask a Forum Moderator, Senior Moderator, Recognized Contributor to nominate you. They don't give it away for free though; you have to meet some requirements.
- Recognized Themer - A member who's known for original themes. You can apply to the Senior Moderators yourself, or ask a Recognized Contributor to nominate you.
- Recognized Developer - A title given to a member for his/her work in his/her device-specific development. You can apply to the Senior Moderators yourself. I don't think anyone can nominate you here. The developer committee assesses your overall activity and decides whether you're eligible for this position.
- Elite Recognized Developer - This title is given to Recognized Developers who have provided outstanding work, way beyond the knowledge of us mere mortals. A Recognized Developer is re-assessed by the developer committee before being given that title.
- Forum Moderator - This title is given to Recognized Contributors who are responsible enough to handle a forum on their own with some other such members of course. They have to fill out an application (which is no longer available now) and then the moderator committee approves of them.
- Senior Moderator - Senior Moderators are in charge of the whole site-wide support for Forum Moderators and nitty-gritty business that Forum Moderators cannot look after.
- Administrators - Next comes the admins who are responsible for everything as a whole. Each look after a specific part of XDA.
- MikeChannon's the dude behind all this. He's the Forum Administrator.
Other titles you may come across are
- Moderator Committee - sits on the Mod Committee
- Developer Committee - as above, but for Developer Committee
- XDA Newswriter - publishes articles for the Portal (front page)
- Retired xxxx - have since officially 'left' their XDA position
-Skeleton of this part taken largely from mf2112's guide. Thanks a lot, bro.
5. Reporting posts
XDA has given you the freedom of reporting posts. It basically brings posts to a moderator's attention, and is 10^10x better than notifying a moderator via PM. You, being a member of XDA, must report posts that you feel are a violation of the rules of XDA. You must report spam, other than that in the OT thread. XDA is a humongous website. Moderation isn't entirely possible by the selected panel. We need your help. And we hope that you are not one of those whose posts need reporting. It's not a really pleasant feeling. Anyways here's an example of how you can report posts:
Suppose member XXX has posted a question in the X8 general forum. Now you know that it's not appropriate to post questions in the general section; there's a Q/A section for that. So you click the triangular button beside the birdy on the OP. It basically represents the report button. In the reason box, type in a valid reason like "Please move to X8 device Q&A forum" for example, and select "Thread/Post moving or maintenance" in the drop-down box, and hit "Send report". This will notify the panel of moderators for that particular device, and one of them will definitely move the thread if he/she feels it necessary.
Please use this feature properly. We need your help.
6. A good signature that expresses your awesomeness
As a member, it is your responsibility to make a good signature that informs other users of what your phone is running on currently. This kind of signature can help in avoiding follow-up questions when you ask for help or advice. A good signature may also contain helpful links for new members. You can also include pictures, but use Dropbox or photobcuket for that purpose, because when you copy a link directly from some pic, it may be considered stealing.
You can edit your signature by clicking this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/profile.php?do=editsignature
Here's a good guide on how to make a good signature: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1636804
Need ideas? This should help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761276
And please remember, signatures are not meant to be billboards.
7. Donations
Donations are never expected nor required, but are always welcome. There are "DONATE TO ME" buttons below the avatars of users. Click that if you want to send donations for their hard work. In many cases, as in mine, donations are not possible. Use the Thanks button instead. It's almost equivalent in our eyes.
You can also donate to XDA by clicking this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/donations.php
When you donate 10 euros to XDA, you are awarded a star, which is displayed below your avatar. When you are rewarded with ten stars, that is 100 euros (I may be wrong here), an even bigger star with the number 10 appears.
Just keep in mind, developers provide top-quality ROMs and Kernels and what-not, which are results of their hard work. They don't do it for donations; they do it to help others, just like they were helped by some other benefactor. So, please, if you find someone's work worthy of a donation, do not hesitate. Even a small amount is great encouragement.
8. Some helpful links
- [HOW TO] make a good THREAD, POST, QUESTION and POLL
- Help Your Threads Get More Search Hits with Better Titles and Thread Tags!
- [TUTORIAL] How to logcat
- [GUIDE] How to give constructive feedback to developers
- [ADB/FB/APX Driver] Universal Naked Driver 0.72
- Chef Central
- [Ultimate Guide][Part 10 released][12/11/2011]Android App Development - From Scratch
- XDA Recognized Developer Program Expansion
- The history of XDA - Part 1
- A visual history of XDA
-Skeleton again largely taken from mf2112's guide. Thanks again, pal.
The 10-post rule
You guys may know by now that there is a slight restriction in the development fora; you cannot post there if you do not have 10 posts beforehand. This means you have to have 10 posts anywhere on XDA before you can post in any development forum. Keep in mind, however, that it doesn't mean necessarily that the development fora cannot be accessed by you new members. The only restriction imposed is on posting there.
A member of the Moderator Committee here at XDA, Fallen Spartan, has said this regarding the rule:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30513893&postcount=87
The 10-post barrier is extremely easy to overcome. You can post in the General, Q/A, Accessories or the Themes and Apps section, or even the Off-Topic section of XDA. Trust me, once you start posting there, getting 10 posts will be as easy as spelling your name (provided your name's easy to spell, of course!). However, that does not mean your first 10 posts on XDA, your shining road to global recognition, should be spam. We are going to infract you if you spam the fora.
Most of the posts in the development fora hardly contribute to any development. These posts are usually off-topic, and then a moderator has to interfere. Why do you guys do that? It doesn't help any one of us. Instead post in the Off-Topic section. And if you really wanna thank the developer, you can still hit the Thanks button (it also helps to maintain your postcount to thanks ratio, although it is something you better not worry about). If you are still dissatisfied, hit the Thanks button again on another post by the developer. Still dissatisfied? Then donate some money to him. As mf2112 has said any developer will appreciate a few dollars way more than any post howsoever appreciative it may be.
Please don't spam to overcome the 10-post barrier. Here's a good guide on how to get 10 posts easily: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
And if there's something you really have to post in the dev section without having 10 posts beforehand, check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841030
Use it wisely, for the moderators are watching your every move.
Post #2 updated! Seriously guys don't go TL;DR. You're missing the point of it all if you don't read.
some new comers have recently picked up interest in reviving dead thread......they find it pretty amusing i suppose. trying to force life back into a corpse... please add a point about this in bold..
Point #2 of post #2 covers that bit. The rest is up to the members. Hopefully they'll read this through.
sgt. meow said:
Point #2 of post #2 covers that bit. The rest is up to the members. Hopefully they'll read this through.
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no..no.. they dont revive it to ask Q... they do so for saying thanks..:cyclops:
Will have to include a new topic, "Bumping".
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Will have to include a new topic, "Bumping".
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@meow
it would be better if you write the most important points in your thread with red colour..
it caches attention instantaneously..
@dagger
Will do that. Later, though. Too tired right now.
Great thread helped me a lot......
sent from my W8 using xda app(paid/free doesn't matter)
Good to know that.
Thread Updated! New members, please read this. It will really benefit you.
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Hi fellow XDA members,
As you all may have noticed there has been a few changes in the moderation committee. There are new moderators for devices. New people, but that does not mean new rules. eagleeyetom had asked members in his proposal thread, to help out with the moderation. I asked if I could do an updated XDA behaviour thread and he agreed.
The rules of XDA stay the same no matter what, and apply to every member, even to Senior Mods. Heck, it even applies to the Admin himself. And as such, I feel it's only fair that we ourselves abide by them.
Therefore, this thread acts as a guide for new members and old ones alike, on how to behave on XDA. SpyderX has already made a thread on this, and it was even made a sticky, but still some members fail to abide by the rules. They still disregard the rules and, as a result, end up getting infractions or, in the worst cases, bans.
So if you want to avoid bans and infractions, read on.
1. Read through this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
You must go through the rules, at least once. The above link is the latest set of them. Keep your eyes open for any new announcements. They're usually visible on the upper bit of the website.
2. Do not steal others' work. Or in other words, as SpyderX has explained in his sticky, don't post work, usually ROMs, that:
- Is not your own original work (usually ROMs with your own code, not to be confused with soft-mods, are acceptable)
- Is ported from other devices without the permission of the original creator
- Is just a soft-mod over someone else's hard work
Only stock ROMs are exempt from this rule. And as kernels have to be compiled from source, meaning there is no way to soft-mod them without some work done, they too are considered development.
3. Behave with others. Do not use foul language; it doesn't make you any wiser than you already are. There are members who are just kids, therefore any pornographic content, vulgar comments and other “smart” ways of abusing your freedom on the Internet is strictly prohibited on XDA. Post anything that falls under such categories and you may find yourself banned the next day. No personal insults, trolling (except in the OT) and flaming. Trust me on this, it'll get you nowhere except out of XDA. And always use English in the threads. What language you use in groups doesn't really matter to us.
4. Post in the appropriate sections. More on that later. For now, just remember, both the Development sections are for development-related stuff, like bug-fixes, sharing source codes, bug-reports etc. Don't spam there. It's really annoying for any user to see their favourite threads full of spam and being closed down. Act wisely. Like an XDA-ian. Don't create unnecessary threads. If you wanna talk about anything non-dev, visit the OT. Do not ask for ETAs or for the dev's help in your problems, without a proper bug-report. There's a thread on how to do a bug-report: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935567 Read it thoroughly.
5. Instead of posting “Thanks for XXX”, click the THANKS button. This is a growing concern among many members. There are at least 1000 posts in every section that just say “Thanks”. These are considered spam and will eventually be deleted by a moderator and the poster may receive a warning. So instead of wasting time and energy to write thanks, click the THANKS button. It was made for that purpose. Use it.
6. When creating threads, be extra careful. Think, search and then discuss, in the words of SpyderX, not the other way round. Threads you create should be based on, or have valid content that can be discussed or used. And like #4, open up threads in the appropriate sections. Also before you create a thread, make sure there are no similar threads in the same device forum based on the same problems. And please don't create useless threads asking stupid questions.
7. Always be super kind to devs. They are not paid to bring you the stuff they do. Therefore if you can't donate, which you should if you can, always hit the thanks button when they are trying to help. If you misbehave with any dev, or any member alike, XDA will look after you.
8. Learn to post in the appropriate section.
- General section is for discussions and the all-famous OT thread
- Q&A section is for questions and answers
- Android Development section is for ROMs that are built from others' source, improved versions of others' ROMs etc.
- Original Android Development section is for original development like building ROMs from your own source, modifying someone's source and using it to build a ROM, self-compiled kernels, AIO toolkits etc.
Keep these guidelines in mind and you'll be able to stay in XDA for a long time. And please read all of it. Don't go TL;DR. Please feel free to drop in suggestions, or advice, here in the thread.
- Skeleton taken largely from SpyderX's "Behaviour guide" (which also you guys fail to follow. Thanks, bro.
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Thanks. Good to know.
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@kaazek1993
It's good to know that you found this guide helpful. But even after reading it, if you post "Thanks for xxx" (this topic has been covered in rule no. 5), it has pretty much rendered my hard work useless. Please keep that in mind. No one's asking for thanks (because the Thanks Meter is not a kind of prestige meter or something), but instead of spamming with "thanks" posts, just click the button that does the job far more elegantly.