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Planning to get one...

Hey everybody!
At first, i appologise if there is similar thread already, but i didint see it in last two days that i'm reading this section...
i was thinking in getting one, but i have some small question(s)...
I read here and on net that the build quality, screen, response, etc... quite good, so thats ok...
But, i see that it has locked bootloader! Does it means, like in motorola milestone, that you cannot have custom kernel??? Or itsmagic script/proof of concept is fixing that? So you CAN have custom kernel? Because i see that there is custom rom(s)...
And, all in all, would you recommend it? What are the biggest flaws by you??
Thx
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After owning the 32gb version for about two weeks now, I have to say that the tablet is an excellent bargain. It will do all that you want. Yes, currently its a little glitchy, but the upcoming patches/updates will cure most of the issues.
If the locked bootloader is a concern, well, I wouldnt sweat it. This tablet is still relatively new on the market. In six months, I am sure either acer will unlock or one of the dev's will.
My personal opinion is that the device doesn't need to be unlocked right now. The OS works as stated and will only get better with the updates.
I too would like the unlocked bootloader only because I would like the ability to reload the stock operating system in the event an app pooches it, or make a backup image of my tablet for restoration purposes. Right now in order to reload to stock takes a bit of "massaging" code with the chance of corrupting checksums on files which could prevent updates from acer actually working.
I have to say, that I really enjoy the a500, plays movies, ebooks, surfs the net, has plenty of storage and the ability to add more storage, has a full functioning usb port and has hdmi out......totally awesome, better than a laptop!
I will say this though, before you purchase any tablet, take them for a test drive and then choose the one that suits your needs.

This device is a must buy...if you ignore a few bugs .....which would definately be fixed in the next update....you don't get a usb 2.0 that easily on any device...
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Although its boot loader is locked but it runs relatively stock honeycomb compared to other tabs hence it gives optimum performance already .
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im really satisfied with my iconia a500 right now...no regrets at all...

To answer the original question: yes, itsmagic does get around the locked bootloader. There's still an element of complexity added by the bootloader, but nothing too difficult.
Acer though still haven't released the kernel source (illegally I might add) so there are no custom kernels fully working yet.
The hardware itself is excellent though.

Ok, so all in all, except few software flaws/bugs, device is worth buying!
Thx to everyone
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The full USB port is THE point in my opinion - the full connectivity HC 3.1 will bring can be used without adapter or even a dock. The tab itself could be a bit smaller and lighter, but is quite ok this way. One point: the microfone is really bad - everything above approx. 3.5 kHz is just cut-off

I just ordered myself one a few days ago, should be getting it today
But well, to the point: I've been reading lots of reviews on it, trying to research all the negatives it has to it and all that. And so far apparently the largest issue people complain about is lack of Exchange support out-of-the-box, ie. not much.
Since I don't use Exchange anyways that doesn't affect me in the least. What most drew me to A500 is the full-size USB host port on it. Apparently it's the only 10" tablet at the moment with such, and atleast to me that's a really big advantage A500 has over the others. There's simply so many situations where being able to pop a USB stick or portable HDD on it will be a godsend. Besides, being able to pop in a regular USB keyboard when you're planning do to a lot of typing is quite a nice feature, too Bluetooth keyboards are still so rare and damn expensive.

Lets put it like this I had to stop reading negative reviews because it made me experience bugs lol
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hazard99 said:
Lets put it like this I had to stop reading negative reviews because it made me experience bugs lol
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How true....I second that man!
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Looking to get the A500...

Hello everybody, I'm sageDieu and I am a very active user in the Samsung Mesmerize/Fascinate forums as well as the general Q&A, Apps and Games, Development etc threads here at xda.
I have been exploring options thinking about getting a tablet, and I have used a lot of them at Best Buy. I was just looking around and found that i had a bunch of rewards points on my credit card, just enough to get me the Acer A500. So the first thing i did was head over to xda to see what the development was looking like for this tablet, and from what i can tell it looks pretty active which is promising. The main thing I would want to do when i get a tablet is get it rooted, wiped and on a stock honeycomb rom with as much performance and as little proprietary software as possible.
My questions for you guys are:
1. Do you recommend getting the tab? It seems to be my best potential option, and the hardware specs look great.
2. What is the process of rooting, CWM, roms, etc. in a nutshell for this device? I am familiar with terminal, linux, adb, all that stuff for my phone and lots of other devices I've played with. I'm assuming for this just grab and run gingerbreak then adb CWM over? I've never owned a tab before.
3. After I get to that point (if I do, still not even sure about buying the thing) can you guys tell me what your favorite roms are? There seem to be a lot that have active stable development.... mostly 3.1 with different options but then there's the 3.2 xoom one and some other ones... it's a bit overwhelming coming from my phone where we have stock, a custom debloated rom and then CM7 and MIUI. Just some quick recommendations would be great for things like speed, battery life, performance, bloat, stability, etc..
Thank you so much to anybody that takes the time to help me out. If I do get this device I assure you I will be very active in the forums and do my best to keep it going.

sageDieu said:
1. Do you recommend getting the tab? It seems to be my best potential option, and the hardware specs look great.
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I don't have any experience with other tablets except seeing some being used. I have not used them myself. Thus I have a hard time giving anything concrete in the way of differences or opinions, but, well, I haven't had any issues with my Iconia and the hardware is just great; the battery lasts and lasts and lasts, the screen is pretty, the full-sized USB port is really daymn handy.. And I like the one thing Acer has made in their ROM: Dolby enhancements. It does make a difference
2. What is the process of rooting, CWM, roms, etc. in a nutshell for this device? I am familiar with terminal, linux, adb, all that stuff for my phone and lots of other devices I've played with. I'm assuming for this just grab and run gingerbreak then adb CWM over? I've never owned a tab before.
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1. Install Iconiaroot.apk and tap on "root", you're done.
2. Install Acer Recovery from Market, tap on Install, you're done.
And that's that, you've got CWM installed and the thing rooted. Not too hard
3. After I get to that point (if I do, still not even sure about buying the thing) can you guys tell me what your favorite roms are?
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I personally like the stock ROM the most, the others have this or that naggle..

i have been enjoying the minimal rom (albeit overclock would be nice). Going to be testing out lightspeed with thors kernel to see how well that one compares.
I looked at five different tabs; Samsung, xoom, HP webos tab, blackberry Playbook, and this one. The two downfals of the iconia are the screen and the processor. There are faster and better displays out there but the tablet had all theother features I wanted at a much cheaper price. A good competitor for this one was the Asus transformer, but I wanted better haptic feedback from using the keyboard.

1. I enjoy mine and would recommend it. That said, honestly you'd have to say exactly what you're looking to get out of the Tab so others can offer constructive recommendations.
2. You'll find rooting and installing CWM to easier and quicker just than just about any phone out there. Literally can do both inside of 2 minutes right on the Tab itself.
3. As far as roms go there are options. That said, since HC source code will probably never see the light of day the talented devs on here are pretty limited on what they can do. The good news is most stock roms are fairly bloat free in comparison to phone roms. I believe the Galaxy rom has the most customization you'll find. So.. check some rom threads on here and experiment. A few kernels are available too.
Hope that helps

By your numbers:
1. I think it's the best tablet out there for the money, and definitely in the running for best tablet period. There are faster, lighter tablets available, but there is nothing out there that completely matches the feature set of the A500. Depending on what you want from a tablet, you might end up like me with it being your "only" option.
2. Best way to describe the A500 rooting process: SCARY EASY. I can't believe how easy it was after what I had to go through to root my HTC Evo 4G phone. Everything on the A500 is like one-click. The IconiaRoot app roots it in one step, the Acer Recovery Installer installs ClockWork Mod in basically one click, and then you're able to flash away on whatever ROMs you want.
3. I'm no use here. I like the stock Honeycomb v3.1! You actually might, too. There's a lot less bloatware on tablets compared to phones, and even stock it's pretty smooth/fast. I definitely felt the need to hack up my HTC Evo phone, but my A500 is only rooted and tweaked a little.
Good luck with your decision!

Thanks for the feedback. In response to "what I want in a tablet," it would mainly be a media device, games, music, movies etc. and I might use it for development in the future.
Sadly, my Xbox broke and I have decided to use my points for a new one since it gets a lot more use than I think this would. I really appreciate the answers, and I will keep you guys in mind when I save up the cash to buy a tablet. Thanks
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Fascinate bros!

sageDieu said:
Thanks for the feedback. In response to "what I want in a tablet," it would mainly be a media device, games, music, movies etc. and I might use it for development in the future.
Sadly, my Xbox broke and I have decided to use my points for a new one since it gets a lot more use than I think this would. I really appreciate the answers, and I will keep you guys in mind when I save up the cash to buy a tablet. Thanks
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lol nothing worth playing on Xbox until MW3 comes out in Nov. COD Black Ops blows chunks, MW2 was the last good one of the series. Wait until November for your Xbox, and get your Iconia now!! lol

kjy2010 said:
lol nothing worth playing on Xbox until MW3 comes out in Nov. COD Black Ops blows chunks, MW2 was the last good one of the series. Wait until November for your Xbox, and get your Iconia now!! lol
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Pfft, PS3 > Xbox anyways

WereCatf said:
Pfft, PS3 > Xbox anyways
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On topic: Hello, I hope to be a new member of the Iconia Community shortly. I was going to make one of these topics, but thanks to the OP, I didn't have to =p.
I've read the reviews by those big name reviewers on the Iconia, Galaxy Tab, Thrive, Playbook, iPad (eww), Transformer, etc.. but they'll never compare to actual users of the product in the real world. With that being said I have one more question to add:
What are the specific issues/concerns that have come up with the Iconia? I've read there are sleep issues with the unit? I haven't had the chance to read through the changelogs of the various roms for the Iconia yet, but have they fixed any of the stock issues?
Thanks in advance and hope to hang around here for some time to come =)

Athrun88 said:
What are the specific issues/concerns that have come up with the Iconia? I've read there are sleep issues with the unit? I haven't had the chance to read through the changelogs of the various roms for the Iconia yet, but have they fixed any of the stock issues?
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Quite many people seem to have issues with WIFI not getting IP address, but apparently the fix is easy enough. I don't know if newer firmwares have fixed the issue.
Personally I have not had a single issue with the tablet at all so again I cannot comment much more than that.

i run stock rooted and have only 1 small issue.....occasionally I will install from the market and the apk will download but never move past "installing" i have to leave the market and come in again and redownload the apk etc.
Also if you are looking at purchasing, and have a cosco around do it there. 32gig version with case (a crappy one) and hdmi cable for $429 is very hard to beat. Also with the cosco you get 90 day return and 2 years warranty. (3 if you use amex to buy)

Aaron Camp said:
Also if you are looking at purchasing, and have a cosco around do it there. 32gig version with case (a crappy one) and hdmi cable for $429 is very hard to beat. Also with the cosco you get 90 day return and 2 years warranty. (3 if you use amex to buy)
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There are afew private sellers that are selling the unit. I really don't care about warranty because i'll be rooting, and with my past history with devices and electronics, i've never claimed warranty anyways. I will, however, look into that, there's a costco near my work! Looking at a seller with a 16GB model at $350 Canadian unopened box. Seems like a good deal.

B70??? come on and fight

hello TO everybody. I am a owner of an transformer tf101 3gB70
Momently not rootable
I've post every day after the purchase of my asus tf b70 on the official asus site on facebook until they have banned me only because i have made them a few question about the locked bootloader and how to get root acces TO use some apps like titanium backup
So i invite you all users and non users of an tf B70 TO post on their site and other socialnetworks To release a tool TO get root on ouer tf b70 and invite them(ASUS) TO follow others that are providing devices with lower costs but are developer free!!
So one day we get root on the transformer too!

It can be a solution but I think it's not enough while if u are thinking about how many people bought transformer and how many people want to be able to root their device there is too much difference. Just for example from 800000 sold transformer maybe 2000-3000 wants to root it. The rest is very pleased with their stock rom. This is just what I think nothing more. From the other part why not can the manufacturers monitorize XDA like forums and even include scripts and other good things which can improve their device performance. Yeah it's like an ideal world of user-developer-manufacturer community which, I think, we will never see.
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Understandy your feeling and I've rooted all android phones I've had.but I think stock transformer works pretty good...
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Are all B70 non rootable? Because mines is B70KAS... and I used brk.rootkit.ww.v6.3 for root (and adding clockwork, busybox and superuser) and Clemsyn-Blades3.2OCver21 (with voodoo module) for overclock.
Everything worked perfect.
PD: Shipped with Android 3.1, and updated to 3.2 before rooting. WW Version.

mrmenta said:
Are all B70 non rootable? Because mines is B70KAS... and I used brk.rootkit.ww.v6.3 for root (and adding clockwork, busybox and superuser) and Clemsyn-Blades3.2OCver21 (with voodoo module) for overclock.
Everything worked perfect.
PD: Shipped with Android 3.1, and updated to 3.2 before rooting. WW Version.
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Asus change the SBK mid way in July so some early B7O are rootable.

I've rooted 2 android phones and another tablet (creative ziio) but to be honest I feel little need with the TF.
It has no real annoying stock apps and everything seems to be working ok.

I have a non rootable b70, but I hoppe devs will unlook it, its a matter of time...

What are the obvious advantages in rooting the tf101? Any new functionality?
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Tuborg68 said:
What are the obvious advantages in rooting the tf101? Any new functionality?
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With one word? Freedom!
You can install custom ROMs, remove system apps, you can overclock your CPU. Just a few things...

I've still swithering between this the Xoom, Playbook or just waiting for something new but I'd echo the comments about the stock ROM being really good, theres actually plenty of folk who use the Asus Widgets (weather, email) on their non asus tablets because they look really good!
I think the Transformer with the keyboard already supplies most of the functionality that some of the others need rooted for (USB connection for flashdrives/hard discs), however if I do get one I'd like to be able to root for the overclock and ability to use a 3G USB Modem,

If you find it ok to have your tab stock !
Try to use titanium backup or the stock browser ho is closing itself during typing until it forces to close
After a month of use asus finally decided to release an update
But if we got root the problem was resolved a long time ago in other custom rom on xda fo the transformer

I hope the one I have coming from newegg isn't the latest B70. I'm sure I would be satisfied for awhile with a stock TF, but I hack everything I buy when it comes to phones, tablets, and computers LOL

I'm. Scouring through my area to find a B60 not easy...

i just bought a B80, it was a new model number and everything, i knew i couldnt root it right now. im fine with that, this thing is very fast and performs very well.
I can wait the month or 2 it will take to hack the new key.
This is my first tablet and im happy i was patient enough to wait for something as good as this.

Very happy with my transformer no reason to root yet,
Currently Pinnacle 1.2 and have never been happier

i got a tf yesterday, even tho i new not ti get a b70, i ended up with 1, stock rom is awesome, imo, but the roms that the devs make on these forums are so much awesomer lol, looking forward to getting rooted and flashing revolver rom, ta
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I just got a B80 model as well and am quite happy with it. I can't wait for root though for overclocking and custom tweaks. Hopefully it's not too far down the road!

I have a B70 but i also cant root it. So i must wait with the stock rom (its quit nice) but i want root and i WANT a custom rom on it.. damn sh*t....

Forgive my ignorance, where do I find this B70?
I just bought my TF. I looked through the settings About and not seeing anything indicating the hardware version (which is what B70 refers to, right?). Where do I find this.
I'm not out to root my TF (yet), I plan on doing app development and so far have not needed any root privileges.

wdtj said:
I just bought my TF. I looked through the settings About and not seeing anything indicating the hardware version (which is what B70 refers to, right?). Where do I find this.
I'm not out to root my TF (yet), I plan on doing app development and so far have not needed any root privileges.
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Look for a sticker next to the power/dock connector on the tablet. It will have a serial number beginning with "B". So the second digit will indicate which revision you have.

Two A500 questions

Just ordered mine refurbished with 2 year warranty for $350. Should be here in two days. My questions:
I see that some people want to revert from 3.2 to 3.0. Why is that? Is there something wrong with the official 3.2 firmware?
What are the advantages to rooting the A500? With my EVO 4G, I rooted just to improve battery life and to be able to tether from my 4G connection. The A500 has a supposed 8 hour battery life so I dont think I'd be interesting in rooting for just that. What other advantages are there? Are the hacked roms that much better than the stock one?

hidavi said:
Just ordered mine refurbished with 2 year warranty for $350. Should be here in two days. My questions:
I see that some people want to revert from 3.2 to 3.0. Why is that? Is there something wrong with the official 3.2 firmware?
What are the advantages to rooting the A500? With my EVO 4G, I rooted just to improve battery life and to be able to tether from my 4G connection. The A500 has a supposed 8 hour battery life so I dont think I'd be interesting in rooting for just that. What other advantages are there? Are the hacked roms that much better than the stock one?
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You must revert to 3.0 from 3.2 if you want to root the A500.
And advantages are better performance, battery life (depending on how you control your cpu/voltage levels), and the ability to use root aps such as adfree. Also you can change the theme, buttons, boot animation, manage system apps, and all that other good stuff that root gives you.

In addition, hacked roms not only give you better battery life, but better performance.
Performance because some of the acer underlying "bloatware" is removed, and also the ability to overclock the processor. This results in better game and film playback for example.
Not to mention the recent fact about the CIQ data gathering code is "hopefully" broken with cooked roms/kernels (see xda home page for further info)
Rooting and romming is not for everybody. Some people are just plain happy with the stock system. But for those of us that want the most we can get, it's a blessing.

Keep in mind that we are reverting 3.2 back to 3.0 so that we can install a custom ROOTED version of 3.2. 3.2 is still the best and most stable, of the Honeycomb ROMS, but with the OTA update for 3.2 Acer changed the bootloader making it harder to root.

Also keep in mind, that when you to the rollback from 3.2, that 3.0 rom is going to act really weird. so you'll just have to be patient and do your things when you can.

And for my 2¢
If you cannot root, it would be like buying a Windows laptop at WalMart and WalMart keeps the Administrator account Top Secret so you cannot use it. And because you cannot be the Administrator, you CAN NOT uninstall any of the 'crapware' they loaded for you that they through constantly in your face.
Or better yet, you buy a NEW car and Ford/Chevy/etc decided to weld the hood shut, preset all your radio buttons (which you cannot change - hope you like country), lock your wheels so you cannot change the tires, and then to add injury to insult, while you were sleeping they send OTA changes that makes your car work differently then the day before. So, you jump in YOUR car to discover that last night some jerk decided the gas pedal should now be on the left and the break should be on the dashboard. Anyway, you get the idea.

Also dint you need root to read ntfs and such from the USB?
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The advantages of root are being able to do what you want with your hardware. Customizing, tweaking, removing crap, etc...

i have a question will anyone figure a way to root 3.2 i got my icona a500 and it came with 3.2 i dont want to revert back as im not that good with this stuf but like the pros to rooting i have rooted 2 galaxy s facinate and love it oh yes i am a complete noob to this but having fun

pmelah said:
i have a question will anyone figure a way to root 3.2 i got my icona a500 and it came with 3.2 i dont want to revert back as im not that good with this stuf but like the pros to rooting i have rooted 2 galaxy s facinate and love it oh yes i am a complete noob to this but having fun
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pmelah, as the others have hinted towards, you cannot root stock 3.2 from Acer. I remember reading some devs were working on it, but, so far, no one has been able to do it. Realize the reverting back process is temporary as there are plenty of custom ROMs out there with 3.2. It's just that, right now, if you want 3.2 and root capability, you have to revert to 3.0 and then flash a custom 3.2 ROM.
The process is incredibly easy and someone has taken the lead in writing a tutorial.

pmelah said:
i have a question will anyone figure a way to root 3.2 i got my icona a500 and it came with 3.2 i dont want to revert back as im not that good with this stuf but like the pros to rooting i have rooted 2 galaxy s facinate and love it oh yes i am a complete noob to this but having fun
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Already done, it was rooted as soon as it came out. You can find the instructions on xda. The end result will be 3.2 rooted other than that, it will be 100% stock.

BrianDigital said:
Also dint you need root to read ntfs and such from the USB?
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Not in HC 3.2

[Q] New Owner of Transformer TF300T

Hi everyone, great threads on this forum and it's helped guided me with a lot of questions that I've been facing.
So my wonderful gf bought me this tablet as a surprise last week, I've greatly enjoyed it.
But I'm still a little tossed up on it, the experience with the tablet has been mixed.
At times it's great speedy, responsive, and probably providing me with the best first time experience with a Android based tablet.
Other times not so much, I do understand this is a year old tablet, not the latest and greatest (as far as the RAM goes, display can be a little better but still awesome). So at times it would be sloooooooooooow, and chuggish.
I remember reading on the forum somewhere forgot who posted it, but they were comparing a Samsung Note/Galaxy to this and it's night and day at times, games would be running a lot more smoother on those units then this one. (which I've come across when I was showing off to my cousins and they had a Note, showoff failed)
So I just have a couple of questions and maybe you guys can all help me with a few suggestions.
Is this table worth keeping? Or do I wait for the next generation of the Transformer to come out?
Should I root/custom Rom for a better experience? But then again, shouldn't a brand new out of a box tablet give me that optimum experience already?
I've searched and read multiple threads and it's given me somewhat of a direction.
But waiting for a brand new tablet with Tegra4 + more RAM otw could also be more worthwhile.....
My gf paid retail value for this tablet (which is pretty steep up in Canada 500$?), so I'm just trying to see what would be the best...either I return and wait up? or Root/Rom and try the new experience.
I know I've been a little vague,but I really don't know what else to add as I'm still a FOB (fresh on the boat :fingers-crossed with Android Tablets.
I guess, am I expecting too much out of a unit that is a year old?

Lummers said:
Hi everyone, great threads on this forum and it's helped guided me with a lot of questions that I've been facing.
So my wonderful gf bought me this tablet as a surprise last week, I've greatly enjoyed it.
But I'm still a little tossed up on it, the experience with the tablet has been mixed.
At times it's great speedy, responsive, and probably providing me with the best first time experience with a Android based tablet.
Other times not so much, I do understand this is a year old tablet, not the latest and greatest (as far as the RAM goes, display can be a little better but still awesome). So at times it would be sloooooooooooow, and chuggish.
I remember reading on the forum somewhere forgot who posted it, but they were comparing a Samsung Note/Galaxy to this and it's night and day at times, games would be running a lot more smoother on those units then this one. (which I've come across when I was showing off to my cousins and they had a Note, showoff failed)
So I just have a couple of questions and maybe you guys can all help me with a few suggestions.
Is this table worth keeping? Or do I wait for the next generation of the Transformer to come out?
Should I root/custom Rom for a better experience? But then again, shouldn't a brand new out of a box tablet give me that optimum experience already?
I've searched and read multiple threads and it's given me somewhat of a direction.
But waiting for a brand new tablet with Tegra4 + more RAM otw could also be more worthwhile.....
My gf paid retail value for this tablet (which is pretty steep up in Canada 500$?), so I'm just trying to see what would be the best...either I return and wait up? or Root/Rom and try the new experience.
I know I've been a little vague,but I really don't know what else to add as I'm still a FOB (fresh on the boat :fingers-crossed with Android Tablets.
I guess, am I expecting too much out of a unit that is a year old?
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Welcome on board, I've had the same experience like you with the tablet so I am going to provide you with some thoughts of mine, there is also a thread called "would you buy this tablet again" somewere.
I'd highly recommend using an app called clean-master it's basically Androids counterpart to the famous CCleaner on a pc, whenever the tablet feels slow/laggy run it.
The display is ok, but like you said it could and should be brighter with a higher PPI but since it's more of a budget tablet Asus had to cut costs somewhere.
Better experience:
Rooting and flashing a custom ROM would be a good way to get a way better experience out of this thing. After receiving mine baack I've installed Paranoid 3.99 althoug it's not the official release it is very stable, responsible and offers a lot of customization options, stock Android ones are heavily lacking. You can also overclock this thing without any worries for example mine is running at 1,5 ghz right now and the experience is way better then before although for most of my stuff already to fast, since I am only doing notes, browsing and emailes on my tablets.
If I were you, I would wait for the TF 701 release:
Screen: 300ppi 2560 x 1600 resolution
inside: 2 gb RAM 1,9 ghz Tegra 4 cpu
according to Asus it will cost 499 $ with an included dock station, like all Asus tablets it offers an SD slot hopefully on the tablet and the dock
If you are looking for even more power the next note from Samsung might be worth a look, the screen quality will be the same but it comes with powerful 3 GB of RAM, so perfect for multitasking if you need it the downside is Samsung is looking at a 699 $ pricetag.
Hope that helps and welcome aboard

frankgreimes said:
Welcome on board, I've had the same experience like you with the tablet so I am going to provide you with some thoughts of mine, there is also a thread called "would you buy this tablet again" somewere.
I'd highly recommend using an app called clean-master it's basically Androids counterpart to the famous CCleaner on a pc, whenever the tablet feels slow/laggy run it.
The display is ok, but like you said it could and should be brighter with a higher PPI but since it's more of a budget tablet Asus had to cut costs somewhere.
Better experience:
Rooting and flashing a custom ROM would be a good way to get a way better experience out of this thing. After receiving mine baack I've installed Paranoid 3.99 althoug it's not the official release it is very stable, responsible and offers a lot of customization options, stock Android ones are heavily lacking. You can also overclock this thing without any worries for example mine is running at 1,5 ghz right now and the experience is way better then before although for most of my stuff already to fast, since I am only doing notes, browsing and emailes on my tablets.
If I were you, I would wait for the TF 701 release:
Screen: 300ppi 2560 x 1600 resolution
inside: 2 gb RAM 1,9 ghz Tegra 4 cpu
according to Asus it will cost 499 $ with an included dock station, like all Asus tablets it offers an SD slot hopefully on the tablet and the dock
If you are looking for even more power the next note from Samsung might be worth a look, the screen quality will be the same but it comes with powerful 3 GB of RAM, so perfect for multitasking if you need it the downside is Samsung is looking at a 699 $ pricetag.
Hope that helps and welcome aboard
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I've been following that thread Is it still worth buying this tablet extensively, it's been very very informative.
From what I got after reading that thread is that a lot of people are happy with this tablet.
I've decided to keep this tablet for now, and if/when the next generation one does come out, maybe I'll pawn this off and hopefully get that one.
Would you guys be able to guide me into which thread might have a list of roms that I may find that may be suitable for me?
As well as which information you would need from me to help you with a selection.
Thank you guys.

Lummers said:
I've been following that thread Is it still worth buying this tablet extensively, it's been very very informative.
From what I got after reading that thread is that a lot of people are happy with this tablet.
I've decided to keep this tablet for now, and if/when the next generation one does come out, maybe I'll pawn this off and hopefully get that one.
Would you guys be able to guide me into which thread might have a list of roms that I may find that may be suitable for me?
As well as which information you would need from me to help you with a selection.
Thank you guys.
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Personally I am still undecided in terms of waiting for the TF 701 or even the next generation, if Asus does I can see them packing it with 4 gig of RAM and then we can really talk about multi tasking but the TF 701 looks really great from what I've seen and read so undecided.
In terms of ROM I am big fan of Cyanogenmod and Paranoid, both are offering great customization options, superuser abilities right from the installing and of course a much smoother experience than stock Android.
Paranoid has an unofficial 3.99 (Android 4.3) build currently and Cyanogenmod is offering Nightly builds, since both aren't official releases some things might not work yet but they are for the most part stable. I would manually install them and use a tool like goomanager for flashing/updating the ROM if available.

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Personally I am still undecided in terms of waiting for the TF 701 or even the next generation, if Asus does I can see them packing it with 4 gig of RAM and then we can really talk about multi tasking but the TF 701 looks really great from what I've seen and read so undecided.
In terms of ROM I am big fan of Cyanogenmod and Paranoid, both are offering great customization options, superuser abilities right from the installing and of course a much smoother experience than stock Android.
Paranoid has an unofficial 3.99 (Android 4.3) build currently and Cyanogenmod is offering Nightly builds, since both aren't official releases some things might not work yet but they are for the most part stable. I would manually install them and use a tool like goomanager for flashing/updating the ROM if available.
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I'm a little torn as well....the TF701 does look amazing spec wise...I'm still contemplating if I should return and grab that one....but my first tablet...kind of want to pop my Root/Custom rom cherry with this one as I've read great reviews about it from everyone on the forum so far. :good:
Is there a thread/site that you can kindly guide me to so I can take a look at these ROM's to see what they offer me and which one might suite me the best?
As well would I be able to retain the Asus Apps or would it be a clean slate ROM?
Still a little lost on some of these ROM options, and if I didn't like the ROM's is it possible to go back to factory defaults?
Thanks once again, much appreciated.

Lummers said:
I'm a little torn as well....the TF701 does look amazing spec wise...I'm still contemplating if I should return and grab that one....but my first tablet...kind of want to pop my Root/Custom rom cherry with this one as I've read great reviews about it from everyone on the forum so far. :good:
Is there a thread/site that you can kindly guide me to so I can take a look at these ROM's to see what they offer me and which one might suite me the best?
As well would I be able to retain the Asus Apps or would it be a clean slate ROM?
Still a little lost on some of these ROM options, and if I didn't like the ROM's is it possible to go back to factory defaults?
Thanks once again, much appreciated.
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Things to make sure before doing that:
1. Use the right version for your bootloader of either Clock Work Mod oder Team Win Recovery Projects
2. Backup all your important apps with Titanium Backup Pro
Links Cyanogenmod, Paranoid is also known as AOSPA you can get it here they used to have an official website but can't find it right now also you are going to find a lot of versions including the newest in the Development section of this forum.
You can also use the GooManager to flash/update your ROMS, especially useful if you are using nightly builds for Cyanogenmod
as for the Asus Apps:
It really depends what you need, personally I've done a full app backup and only restored the ones I sometimes use such as livebackgrounds, if so mething important is still missing I'll just restore it using Titanium Backup
Going back to your "usual Asus ROM" is rather easy:
Just use CWM or TWRP and select the Restore option
Before installing a new ROM:
Do a davlik/system/cache/data wipe, I would not recommend to wipe the whole internal or external sd card because all your data will be lost so be careful there
I am sure there are people who can give you a way better introduction on all the available Roms than me, since I am just stickong to the ones that work perfect for me and I am only having this tablet since may so good luck

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Things to make sure before doing that:
1. Use the right version for your bootloader of eitherClock Work Mod oder Team Win Recovery Projects
2. Backup all your important apps with Titanium Backup Pro
Links Cyanogenmod, Paranoid is also known as AOSPA you can get it here they used to have an official website but can't find it right now also you are going to find a lot of versions including the newest in the Development section of this forum.
You can also use the GooManager to flash/update your ROMS, especially useful if you are using nightly builds for Cyanogenmod
as for the Asus Apps:
It really depends what you need, personally I've done a full app backup and only restored the ones I sometimes use such as livebackgrounds, if so mething important is still missing I'll just restore it using Titanium Backup
Going back to your "usual Asus ROM" is rather easy:
Just use CWM or TWRP and select the Restore option
Before installing a new ROM:
Do a davlik/system/cache/data wipe, I would not recommend to wipe the whole internal or external sd card because all your data will be lost so be careful there
I am sure there are people who can give you a way better introduction on all the available Roms than me, since I am just stickong to the ones that work perfect for me and I am only having this tablet since may so good luck
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Awesome!! :good:
You've been of great help.
I'll browse around those ones for sure and take a look and learn some more before doing anything.
Are there any other steps I would need to do prior to flashing a rom?
I've been reading unlocking the unit before flashing the ROM? Not too sure what that is about.
As usual Thanks!

Lummers said:
Awesome!! :good:
You've been of great help.
I'll browse around those ones for sure and take a look and learn some more before doing anything.
Are there any other steps I would need to do prior to flashing a rom?
I've been reading unlocking the unit before flashing the ROM? Not too sure what that is about.
As usual Thanks!
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Glad, I've helped you
Steps you need
1. rooted tablet just search for motorshoper here - just subscribe to the thread it's an awesome tool to get superuser "root" access
2. download the bootloader unlocker from the Asus webpage
should work flawlessly if you aren't sure,about having root rights use an app like root checker
be aware always make sure to read the steps carefully and only download the right TWRP or CWM version for your bootloader. Also search for potential problems before atempting to downgrade versions, without having a working backup this way you are going to save yourself a bit of time and trouble.

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Glad, I've helped you
Steps you need
1. rooted tablet just search for motorshoper here - just subscribe to the thread it's an awesome tool to get superuser "root" access
2. download the bootloader unlocker from the Asus webpage
should work flawlessly if you aren't sure,about having root rights use an app like root checker
be aware always make sure to read the steps carefully and only download the right TWRP or CWM version for your bootloader. Also search for potential problems before atempting to downgrade versions, without having a working backup this way you are going to save yourself a bit of time and trouble.
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Thanks!!
Super excited now to see the potential of this tablet!
Can't wait.
I'll be doing a little research to see which one fits me the best for my needs.

Lummers said:
Thanks!!
Super excited now to see the potential of this tablet!
Can't wait.
I'll be doing a little research to see which one fits me the best for my needs.
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Thats part of the fun when you are using custom ROMs there are tons outthere and thanks to the former mentioned tools trying them out and see if they fit you, is easy.
Can't wait to change my blackberry so I can enjoy custom Roms on my handy too.

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Thats part of the fun when you are using custom ROMs there are tons outthere and thanks to the former mentioned tools trying them out and see if they fit you, is easy.
Can't wait to change my blackberry so I can enjoy custom Roms on my handy too.
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Gasssps Blackberry?
I'm on the iPhone 4 so I shouldn't be saying much..
Question - any reason why I would go with a nightly build over a RC/S build?

Lummers said:
Gasssps Blackberry?
I'm on the iPhone 4 so I shouldn't be saying much..
Question - any reason why I would go with a nightly build over a RC/S build?
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Well I love their keyboards but the lack of custom roms and superuser rights is very disappointing,.at.least you can jailbreak the iPhone.
The differences are as follows:
Nightly builds are less stable and some things might not work right now but they include newer features
Stable/RC builds are more stable and most if not all features are working flawlessly
so which build to use will fully depend on what you want, if you are looking for the newest 4,3 features nightlies are the one to go, if you value a stable and feature complete build more I'd go with a RC/S type. The middleway would be to choose a monthly build sadly there aren't any available for CM right now.

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Well I love their keyboards but the lack of custom roms and superuser rights is very disappointing,.at.least you can jailbreak the iPhone.
The differences are as follows:
Nightly builds are less stable and some things might not work right now but they include newer features
Stable/RC builds are more stable and most if not all features are working flawlessly
so which build to use will fully depend on what you want, if you are looking for the newest 4,3 features nightlies are the one to go, if you value a stable and feature complete build more I'd go with a RC/S type. The middleway would be to choose a monthly build sadly there aren't any available for CM right now.
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Hmmm I'll look into those again and see
I'm having a problem right now...
I got CWM installed fine (I Think)
The problem I'm having is when I go to choose zip from sdcard, it won't mound the sdcard or the internal
So I'm stuck...I can't seem to root it now.

Lummers said:
Hmmm I'll look into those again and see
I'm having a problem right now...
I got CWM installed fine (I Think)
The problem I'm having is when I go to choose zip from sdcard, it won't mound the sdcard or the internal
So I'm stuck...I can't seem to root it now.
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Have you done it, in the correct order? First you need to add the ROM, then "add more Zips" select the gapps file
I've had the same problem with the external SDcard so I moved it to the internal one and it worked, but sorry no clue why it doesn't work with an external one

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Have you done it, in the correct order? First you need to add the ROM, then "add more Zips" select the gapps file
I've had the same problem with the external SDcard so I moved it to the internal one and it worked, but sorry no clue why it doesn't work with an external one
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Here are my steps
1. Unlocke downloaded from Asus site
2. Downloaded CWM
3. Fastboot loaded CWM
After that I logged onto the Recovery
Tried installing from SDcard to root
But can't detect, another thread a nice gent, has given me the pointer to try to use TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446177
So I'm going to give that a shot and see if that helps me out more.

Lummers said:
Here are my steps
1. Unlocke downloaded from Asus site
2. Downloaded CWM
3. Fastboot loaded CWM
After that I logged onto the Recovery
Tried installing from SDcard to root
But can't detect, another thread a nice gent, has given me the pointer to try to use TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446177
So I'm going to give that a shot and see if that helps me out more.
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Have you installed the .blob or .img file?
If you are using TWRP there is also a tool called TWRP Manager: so you can normally boot your tablet with it, start the manager make all the settings and it will automatically reboot your tablet into recovery mode.
Personally I have tried CWM and TWRP liking TWRP better too.
Another step you can check:
Go into Goomanager - Settings and look for the default "save folder" if you are having your .zip files in another folder make sure, to put them into this directory. Usually it's something like goomanager/Roms/ or so.

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Have you installed the .blob or .img file?
If you are using TWRP there is also a tool called TWRP Manager: so you can normally boot your tablet with it, start the manager make all the settings and it will automatically reboot your tablet into recovery mode.
Personally I have tried CWM and TWRP liking TWRP better too.
Another step you can check:
Go into Goomanager - Settings and look for the default "save folder" if you are having your .zip files in another folder make sure, to put them into this directory. Usually it's something like goomanager/Roms/ or so.
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So I have TWRP installed, man all I can say is that it is night and day in the steps of setup.
So much easier and direct.
I've downloaded goomanager I'm taking a look at it now and seeing what I can do.
I'm running Cromi-X right now and browsing no longer lags, I'm content.
Wondering what else I can do now.....

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So I have TWRP installed, man all I can say is that it is night and day in the steps of setup.
So much easier and direct.
I've downloaded goomanager I'm taking a look at it now and seeing what I can do.
I'm running Cromi-X right now and browsing no longer lags, I'm content.
Wondering what else I can do now.....
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Something I'd highly recommend:
check the app privacy rules and remove all the permissions most apps shouldn't have i.e using your location, reading SD or contact lists
personally I have also overclocked my tablet it is running at 1.5 ghz now could go as far as 1.7 but I am very happy with the performance so far
another cool thing most custom roms provide is the ability to customize your lock screen.