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High number of people selling their SGS for a DHD;)

This totally does not suprise me, and the guys keeping there SGS really are in total denial...
This beast will rock, I think the worlds leading smartphone has arrived... I love the leaked benchmark scores as well, twice as fast as a froyo N1!!! Imagine CM6.1 on this beast, this phone absolutly FTW))
jd

The time is nearly upon us JD. I remember you saying a few months ago you were so looking forward to it.
Bring it on !!!

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JupiterDroid said:
This totally does not suprise me, and the guys keeping there SGS really are in total denial...
This beast will rock, I think the worlds leading smartphone has arrived... I love the leaked benchmark scores as well, twice as fast as a froyo N1!!! Imagine CM6.1 on this beast, this phone absolutly FTW))
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+1 on JD and FTW for HTC Desire HD and Sense UI.

I think the Desire Z is the better of the two phones (which is why I have it pre-ordered rather than the HD).

darrenjdoc said:
The time is nearly upon us JD. I remember you saying a few months ago you were so looking forward to it.
Bring it on !!!
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Cheers Darren,
I sold my Nexus 1 month ago and i cant wait for this beastly phone mate... I was at the launch and it was fabulous))
I also tried the Z, it looks amazing but there was a problem with the optical trackpad, it wasnt at all responsive, and the HD very much stole the evening..
I cant wait until we get devvin' with this beast, and get CM on it ASAP
JD

CyanogenMod...!!
JupiterDroid said:
Cheers Darren,
I sold my Nexus 1 month ago and i cant wait for this beastly phone mate... I was at the launch and it was fabulous))
I also tried the Z, it looks amazing but there was a problem with the optical trackpad, it wasnt at all responsive, and the HD very much stole the evening..
I cant wait until we get devvin' with this beast, and get CM on it ASAP
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Oh... but is CM making a Mod for this?! That is the question.

mark wild said:
Oh... but is CM making a Mod for this?! That is the question.
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There was a rumour about him getting a Desire HD, but don't really think it's verified.
Damnit I can't wait to get it on my hands, argh!

phunkycow said:
There was a rumour about him getting a Desire HD, but don't really think it's verified.
Damnit I can't wait to get it on my hands, argh!
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True, me to!
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Now HOW can we get in contact with CM!?

cm have website with forum, so we cas ask there, but we should wait, all the last htc phone have vision of cm, so we can guess that the desire hd will not be so different.
btw: same hare, nexus one - sold DHD - in

When the desire HD is rooted someone will port CM to the Desire HD, As its a HTC phone it should be fairly easy in comparison to other devices such as Galaxy S.
We will just need ROOT and prefrably HTC to realese the kernel scource firly soon after realease.

Noxis said:
I think the Desire Z is the better of the two phones (which is why I have it pre-ordered rather than the HD).
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I's not, though. Sure, it's a better choice for you if you want the physical keyboard, but that's really the only thing that's "better". Specs-wise the DHD is a better piece of hardware.

RoadHazard said:
I's not, though. Sure, it's a better choice for you if you want the physical keyboard, but that's really the only thing that's "better". Specs-wise the DHD is a better piece of hardware.
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+1000
tried both and the Z is pretty, but the HD is the new Flagship Android phone,
and thats a FACT!
JD

@RoadHazard
For people like me Desire HD is the only option.
Thing is, i can't deal with physical keyboards anymore.
Using Swype onscreen keyboard is 10 times faster.
I've gotten so used to it, nowadays i prefer onscreen keyboards.
You can buy SlideIt on androidmarket and see for yourself. (an alternative)

JupiterDroid said:
This totally does not suprise me, and the guys keeping there SGS really are in total denial...
This beast will rock, I think the worlds leading smartphone has arrived... I love the leaked benchmark scores as well, twice as fast as a froyo N1!!! Imagine CM6.1 on this beast, this phone absolutly FTW))
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I am not!
My first preference is a DHD and second SGS. I wish buy a SGS, but my mind has just suffered changed.

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Oh... but is CM making a Mod for this?! That is the question.
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i've been told kali would take the official support fo DHD to run CyanogenMOD.
Thats the only reason i'm buying DHD

I sold my Galaxy today and can't wait to get my hands on this...

BUGabundo said:
i've been told kali would take the official support fo DHD to run CyanogenMOD.
Thats the only reason i'm buying DHD
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Kali is a genius, i remember him from my Desire days)) He was the first guy to get froyo to work with Richard Trip on the desire
Viva Kali)
JD

well done for selling your SGS. I think you made the right choice, i pretty much sold mine as soon as I heard HDH was due for October launch.
JD take a chill pill pal get a sense of humor get it!

riz157 said:
well done for selling your SGS. I think you made the right choice, i pretty much sold mine as soon as I heard HDH was due for October launch.
JD take a chill pill pal get a sense of humor get it!
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Riz what you have to understand is that there are guys who use there phone just for calling purposes, and there are guys who develop and utilise there phone to the maximum... I sold my Nexus a few months back and im eager to start devvin again Android is a way of life for a lot of people on here, so you do what you do, and we do what we do))
SGS is dead in the water now this beast is soon to drop... I played with a SGS last week and other than the pretty screen, its pretty average, maybe below average;(
JD

Really ?? I'm interested how you came to the conclusion the SGS is "average" ?
Sure the phone has some minor "hiccups" that I'm sure will be worked out once the Froyo final drops.

See ya later Samsung!!

Going to trade out my Vibrant tomorrow for a G2.
I can't stand the lack of support from Samsung, the stupid GSP, no accessories...
It was a good idea. Great hardware specs with crap performance.

Cya plus some more characters just to beat the required posting requirements.

rudeguy said:
going to trade out my vibrant tomorrow for a g2.
I can't stand the lack of support from samsung, the stupid gsp, no accessories...
It was a good idea. Great hardware specs with crap performance.
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no one cares! Troll!

i dont have swap option. Or i would seriously consider it too .. not the G2 though
Cya2

Lack of support? GPS issues? Umm they just came out with an update that basically got rid of all the lag and makes the GPS a lot better... Lack of support... yea...
They are actively testing Froyo also so that should be coming very soon. Good luck with that G2 though. I wouldn't go anywhere near it.

Can we all just agree to not post here so this thread dies soon... I hope this is the last post in this thread!

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Can we all just agree to not post here so this thread dies soon... I hope this is the last post in this thread!
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its not
JI6 got me an initial satelite lock but once I was moving it was still horrible. I am really glad you all will be getting Froyo months after it has been available but Samsung chose to ship with an outdated OS.
This is the first phone I have ever owned that I literally hated. Even though the G2 isn't rootable ATM, I'll take an HTC on its worst day over any Samsung on its best day.

rudeguy said:
Going to trade out my Vibrant tomorrow for a G2.
I can't stand the lack of support from Samsung, the stupid GSP, no accessories...
It was a good idea. Great hardware specs with crap performance.
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your loss dude. The Bionix line of ROM's completely fixes the GPS and overclocks the Vibrant to 1.2. Blazingly fast and amazing battery. Enjoy the downgrade =/

A friendly reminder:
Don't forget to change your signature.
Case closed.

SeanFloyd said:
your loss dude. The Bionix line of ROM's completely fixes the GPS and overclocks the Vibrant to 1.2. Blazingly fast and amazing battery. Enjoy the downgrade =/
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I <3 Bionix! If you check his thread...the butter was actually my idea.

Lol you're funny, thanks for making the most important announcement of the day, I can continue breathing now.

I like Samsungs hardware but the customer service SUCKS... My 2 friends got the update and both of them got stuck on vibrant logo (basicly bricked phones) this should not happen with a little simple maintenance fix. I can't imagine what the problems will be like with froyo. Look at HTC for example they updated their phones to 2.2 long ago with no problems.... Its all Samsungs fault, they're lazy to work on the updates..
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rudeguy said:
Going to trade out my Vibrant tomorrow for a G2.
I can't stand the lack of support from Samsung, the stupid GSP, no accessories...
It was a good idea. Great hardware specs with crap performance.
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do you really think we care? you'll quickly realize the same old bs is inherent with all big companies. If you think SGS has crap performance, I can't wait till you get a G2 cya rudeguy

Your just slow how old are you 10? IMO the vibrant is the best phone tmobile has right now and the G2 is just ugly lol
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rudeguy said:
Going to trade out my Vibrant tomorrow for a G2.
I can't stand the lack of support from Samsung, the stupid GSP, no accessories...
It was a good idea. Great hardware specs with crap performance.
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Who cares man? Go on with your g2 and get outta here you troll!
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Okay, how about we all stop talking, its just going to start bigger arguments, you guys remind of the people in the iphone scene (no hate on the actual iphone, its just most devs, noobs, and regulars seem to <3 drama)

Well I just did the opposite.I had nothing but problems from my g2. Dropped calls and the hinge kept opening and closing on its own but good luck.
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vitalik228 said:
I like Samsungs hardware but the customer service SUCKS... My 2 friends got the update and both of them got stuck on vibrant logo (basicly bricked phones) this should not happen with a little simple maintenance fix. I can't imagine what the problems will be like with froyo. Look at HTC for example they updated their phones to 2.2 long ago with no problems.... Its all Samsungs fault, they're lazy to work on the updates..
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I don't think they are lazy. I think they try too hard their own launcher TouchWiz and they are having problem porting it over to froyo... They should have just left it the way it is like HTC and not trying to make their own launcher.

mr2t32 said:
I don't think they are lazy. I think they try too hard their own launcher TouchWiz and they are having problem porting it over to froyo... They should have just left it the way it is like HTC and not trying to make their own launcher.
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Considering Galaxy Tab has Froyo...

vitalik228 said:
I like Samsungs hardware but the customer service SUCKS... My 2 friends got the update and both of them got stuck on vibrant logo (basicly bricked phones) this should not happen with a little simple maintenance fix. I can't imagine what the problems will be like with froyo. Look at HTC for example they updated their phones to 2.2 long ago with no problems.... Its all Samsungs fault, they're lazy to work on the updates..
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Were their phones rooted with custom roms, kernels, and/or lagfixes?
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[Q] Is this phone worth upgrading from the HD7?

I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.

the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.

blunted09 said:
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
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Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!

stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I returned the Atrix yesterday. I really liked it, very fast and an amazing battery, but I had issues with it. My main issue was voice quality. Every single person I spoke to had trouble hearing me. I also didn't like the camera, pictures didn't look good in my opinion. Also, had issues with gps not responding properly from time to time, but I think that was just an issue with my unit not all Atrix phones. Now I'm waiting a week or 2 to see if I get the Infuse 4G, that phone sounds sick!!

stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.

sal2708 said:
I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
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Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.

yes
it is an upgrade

stratax said:
Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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stratax said:
Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.

cegna09 said:
just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..

sal2708 said:
Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?

If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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stratax said:
The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.

sal2708 said:
To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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yeah but think about how much other moto devices lagged with motoblur 2.1/2.2. the droid x did horrible, and it has the new moto blur now and it runs amazing, im sure this will run amazing as well with update.

Exador said:
If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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really depends. i had the mytouch slide before it was unlocked and it was fine.. makes porting harder and stuff. broken features? like what?

blunted09 said:
dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.

stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Yeah... deblur right off the bat. Don't hold your breath on miui tho
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i came from a HD7. i love my atrix >>>>>>>> the hd7

stratax said:
Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Lets go over this once. Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz, they are not just skins. They are woven into the android build by the respective manufacturers. To port to this phone you would need the ability to flash custom roms, which you can't do on the atrix. Yes there are a few like gingerblur, but those really aren't custom, just tweaked and skinned. Until motorola unlocks the bootloader (don't hold your breath that the devs will ever figure it out), there is no hope. This is why you probably won't see MIUI either.
getting past that, has there ever been a sense port for a non-htc phone? No HTC phone has had the same hardware as the atrix, so i'm betting it's hard to impossible.
not trying to be an ass, just making sure you understand. This is an awesome phone, just don't come in expecting all the openness of old HTC phones.

[Off Topic] Is it a good deal

Hello XDA !
Today I have a choice, I can have a HTC HD2 for 115€ and I don't know if it's a good deal because HD2 is pretty old.
Am I wrong Am I right ?

Darius_AWS said:
Hello XDA !
Today I have a choice, I can have a HTC HD2 for 115€ and I don't know if it's a good deal because HD2 is pretty old.
Am I wrong Am I right ?
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A friend of mine got one, it had Android pre-installed on it (second hand) and the hardware specs are pretty good, but I found the phone not that responsive considering the specs. Thats probably because it doesn't run Android natively I think, but it might just be just this situation.
Since its so cheap, I would really consider it

Okay thanks
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The phone has a lot of development but I felt it is quite laggy....
I used it with Windows phone and it seemed to have bugged out something and was terribly laggy.....
When I used it with Android, it was a little bit better, but still laggy....
According to me, don't but it.

It's bad because I really like to have the possibility to switch beetween OS, but if it's laggy...no point to buy it
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I wud say, its a gud deal in this price. Surely much better than Galaxy 3.

brajesh.sharma87 said:
I wud say, its a gud deal in this price. Surely much better than Galaxy 3.
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Yes it is but is it really a worthwhile upgrade? I think he should go for a better phone if he actually wants to upgrade or stick with the galaxy 3 as our devs have recently started working 10 times as hard to bring us awesome development such as MIUI, AOKP, G3MOD 3.1, the new Kyorakernel test version, CM7 the list goes on.

in fact the guy with the HD2 didn't contact me yet so i stay with my g3...

New Device:Suggestions?

Hello all,
I'm planning to get a new device.
Is nexus 4 good on hardware given that it's made by lg?
Should I buy htc one x+ or galaxy s3 instead?
What are your recommendations?
I can afford upto 30k or 550_600$.

HTC One costs around 43k,if you can afford that much then I would really recommend it.Nexus 4 would be a good choice too.

Oops I meant to say htc one x+
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-s728e-one-x/p/itmdkaabrsfd7guz

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Oops I meant to say htc one x+
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It's a nice one but I think n4 is better,it doesn't have much memory though.

Wasimk32 said:
It's a nice one but I think n4 is better,it doesn't have much memory though.
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I had the same thing in mind.
But it has a better interface, processor and beats audio.
I don't care for most if these but has lg made a good hardware for the nexus 4???
Btw nexus 4 arriving here in a week

Agreed,sense will always have a better ui than anything in the world
Don't care about the beats audio,have seen ppl using other mods despite having beats audio.
Lg is a good company,we don't see it as a cell phone manufacturer,do we?
And you mean,you've ordered n4?

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Agreed,sense will always have a better ui than anything in the world
Don't care about the beats audio,have seen ppl using other mods despite having beats audio.
Lg is a good company,we don't see it as a cell phone manufacturer,do we?
And you mean,you've ordered n4?
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Nah not ordered yet. I mean it's coming officially in India in a week.

gobz said:
Nah not ordered yet. I mean it's coming officially in India in a week.
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And regarding lg, my brother had lg optimus black he said LG is s#!t on hardware, hence I was concerned.

gobz said:
And regarding lg, my brother had lg optimus black he said LG is s#!t on hardware, hence I was concerned.
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What you mean by hardware?
Build quality?

Yes

Then Slymobi must have something to say about it.Nexus 4 to me looks good,has a much better build quality than any of the Samsung devices.

I'd go for the N4. Purely because your getting a pure google handset, with new updates guaranteed (unlike HTC. Who sometimes cancel or don't even bother to update devices), you'll also get something that's easy to BL unlock, root and experiment with. And being a nexus device, I'm sure there would be a lot try out!
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The build quality is just great! Just the speakers and the camera are not as good as the HTC one's. I had both phones One and Nexus and this glass look looks just so much better than the "plastic" from the HTC One X. And it's also easier to root than the HTC phone. It was a pain in the ass to root the One X and to flash ROMs on it. The Nexus is definitly the better choice also in relation to the money,

I'd get the nexus 4. I already have a nexus 4 and it is brilliant. It feels more premium than the galaxy s3 and the htc one x+. Plus it is easier to root and will have excellent developer support. You also get the newest updates from Google themselves.

I have the one x, great device, doesnt feel "cheap" at all, n4, while having more "premium" feeling also can break more easy so keep that in mind.
Also, hox is easy to root, dont know why is everyone saying its hard lol.
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Thanks for the feedback guys..
I came across this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163979

Also the latest Nokia lums is good and it doesn't cost a lot.
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Pator57 said:
Also the latest Nokia lums is good and it doesn't cost a lot.
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Ive seen it. Frankly Id prefer android!

The hardware of the N4 is amazing for the price. Fastest phone I've ever used for sure. For value/speed, nothing comes close.
The glass back is fragile so just make sure you purchase the right protection.
Jellybean 4.2 is so good you could use it without the need for rooting

gobz said:
Thanks for the feedback guys..
I came across this
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Never happened to me...strange. I think the 4.2.2 update solved this issiue for the most people. I think that happens to maybe 1 of 1000 N4 devices. And if yours is affected you can send it back and order a new N4.
You can still choose the HOX its also a nice device and it has almost no bugs but its got that crappy Tegra processor which seems to be not very familiar with the android system itself and some Gameloft games.