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NS4G OTA

Since nobody has it, I'm guessing it was made up. Conspiracy theory?
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Nope its definitly coming, they are receiving a lot of signal issues by ns4g owners so i would be surprised if it never materialized.
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No, the sprint release documents clearly shows an attempt for an update. The questions and speculations are on "when" it will come.

I've actually never seen that doc, thanks!
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Samsungs track record with "coming soon" has not been promising (moment,epic) but since Google might have some leverage, hopefully it is coming soon.
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Samsung has nothing to do with updates on the NS. Go to opensource.Samsung.com and read the documents for the d720. All updates for the NS line come from Google. So please stop the blame game and be patient.
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Actually, samsumg/sprint handles the radio and Google does the rest
Radio is hugebpart of update
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and ironically the Radio is the only thing that BLOWS on this phone. The ONE thing they had to do they screwed up on.

In order to build android you have to have the proprietary binary files for the wimax and cdma radio. the documents above prove that update has been built and they have the "new radio" if they are even going to update it. so i would not blame sprint/samsung for the delay, they did their job. google needs to finish with whatever tweaks they are working on and release the update or at least commit the code so we can compile.
james819 said:
Actually, samsumg/sprint handles the radio and Google does the rest
Radio is hugebpart of update
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obsanity said:
No, the sprint release documents clearly shows an attempt for an update. The questions and speculations are on "when" it will come.
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I've seen this photo a lot...exactly where is the from (ie. the original link..)?

I'm not sure why a new thread was needed but this delay could be because of tweaks needed for google wallet as that seems to be the big feature coming to the Nexus S line.

The photo is a screen shot of a sprint corp computer that was sent into android central by one of phil's sources

I'm so close to leaving Sprint. Unlimited is nice but it is useless if I can't actually use data correctly. I love when I have 2 bars of 4g but can't get any network activity and forced to use Sprints awesome upgraded dialup 3g service.
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styckx said:
I'm so close to leaving Sprint. Unlimited is nice but it is useless if I can't actually use data correctly. I love when I have 2 bars of 4g but can't get any network activity and forced to use Sprints awesome upgraded dialup 3g service.
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that sucks. i just dont think i could ever go back to verizon and pay 60 bucks more a month for a tiered plan. im sticking with sprint and hoping for the best. i want this freaking update already!!!

styckx said:
I'm so close to leaving Sprint. Unlimited is nice but it is useless if I can't actually use data correctly. I love when I have 2 bars of 4g but can't get any network activity and forced to use Sprints awesome upgraded dialup 3g service.
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Leave if you want. I'm not making that decision until i find out if this latest carrot sprint is hanging is going to be a game changer. I think they are going LTE
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-dan-hesse-significant-4g-plans-to-be-announced-this-fa/

cteneyck said:
Leave if you want. I'm not making that decision until i find out if this latest carrot sprint is hanging is going to be a game changer. I think they are going LTE
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-dan-hesse-significant-4g-plans-to-be-announced-this-fa/
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I found this at opensource.samsung.com for the SPH-D720. Not sure if means much and still would be nice if they release come source code that they currently have. Either way no big deal, I enjoy my Nexus S and really dont any issues with it. I would like better radio signal but who wouldn't. You could get a phone much worse off at Verizon, AT&T, or T-MOBILE. So good luck to the people jumping the boat. I expect a influx of people joining up with Sprint before Spring and then it will bog down the network. I hope they have a plan in place to take care of that issue that may happen.
"- Nexus S (I9020) Opened source code -
Beacuse Nexus S is google experience device, source codes are opened by Google.
So, You can find source code for the Nexus S at Android Open Source Project site.
Please reference below address.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git
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cteneyck said:
the documents above prove that update has been built and they have the "new radio" if they are even going to update it.
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Which document talks about updates for the radio? I didn't see anything on the Samsung or Google sites.

Gripe

What is the purpose of owning a nexus device on a cdma network? I am so tired of google and networks in so many ways. I thought the purpose of owning a nexus device was that I would receive update directly from google. I own a nexus 4 g and a motorola zoom lte and have not received an update in over 4 months. I really hope for google sake there is some improvement in the future with updates of nexus devices.
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Wow, you're the first one that I have heard have a complaint like this.

pedroroach said:
Wow, you're the first one that I have heard have a complaint like this.
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i know right?
quoted for truth /s
they're pushing out 4.0.4 to source, custom roms will have the fixes, etc added into them soon enough.
if you're on xda, I'd expect that you're running a custom ROM and not stock. if that's not the case, i fail to see why you're on xda asking this, and not on a Sprint forum or Google forum instead voicing your gripe.
^^^^ that goes for all the people complaining about the lack of updates, I'm not singling you out OP. i just don't get it
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I don't depend on the carriers anymore for updates. **** I'm running 4.0.4 on my nexus s 4g already because of the devs here. Unlock and flash.....easy as pie.
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kyouko said:
i know right?
quoted for truth /s
they're pushing out 4.0.4 to source, custom roms will have the fixes, etc added into them soon enough.
if you're on xda, I'd expect that you're running a custom ROM and not stock. if that's not the case, i fail to see why you're on xda asking this, and not on a Sprint forum or Google forum instead voicing your gripe.
^^^^ that goes for all the people complaining about the lack of updates, I'm not singling you out OP. i just don't get it
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I'm stock rooted still on GB. I'm not into roms necessarily only reason I root is for wifi tether and titanium backup. Or maybe removing or freezing apps but it doesn't matter on a nexus device. Bottom line is that GS2 and vivid GSM models have gotten updates before my nexus. All I'm saying is CDMA networks do not push updates for nexus devices as they should and google obviously can't provide updates in a timely manor for these devices either. This is a problem with google plus the cdma networks.
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time to switch to gsm, cdma is old school hence why google dont care

b1337 said:
time to switch to gsm, cdma is old school hence why google dont care
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I thought cdma was introduced after gsm? If only sprint was gsm....

qhinton said:
All I'm saying is CDMA networks do not push updates for nexus devices as they should and google obviously can't provide updates in a timely manor for these devices either. This is a problem with google plus the cdma networks.
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ahh ok,I can respect that. Much more than all the other threads on here complaining about not getting the update, yours is more based on the CDMA networks which is the source of the problem for what you're referring to.
That's why I came here cdma updates can be few and far between at times.
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There isn't a reason really. With an htc device for example you get aosp like cyanogen plus you get sense if you want it. I had both options on my evo shift. No one really knew the cdma nexus experience didn't really mean **** until recently since this was the first cdma nexus.
The good thing about this is that now i have opened myself up to more options for my next phone like the htc one or gs3 where up until about January i was only ever going to get nexus phones even though they are usually lacking in something like the camera, fm radio, no sd slot or whatever. And it doesn't matter since updates won't cone any faster and the wonderful devs keep us up to date.

the files for the cdma radio are proprietary, google has to wait for the networks to provide them. googles part is done and available. they even came said a few months ago that cdma nexii arent considered developer phones anymore, just for that reason. its the cdma networks that you should let know how you feel.

im on 2.3.7, it aint broke so im in no hurry to fix it. when i get an official update then ill update. i dont see what the big deal is

I am a very happy CDMA Nexus S owner. I've been rocking 4.0.4 on my NS4G since this morning, I'm not sure what people are complaining about. Yes, we all thought that since we have Nexus devices we'd get personal invites from Goog to test out their new OS. Turns out this is not true, stupid us for thinking that. But in the end what's the difference? As soon as the update is in AOSP our awesome devs have it ready for us to crackflash. These complaint threads are getting old, when did XDA turn into Facebook?

jesusice said:
I am a very happy CDMA Nexus S owner. I've been rocking 4.0.4 on my NS4G since this morning, I'm not sure what people are complaining about. Yes, we all thought that since we have Nexus devices we'd get personal invites from Goog to test out their new OS. Turns out this is not true, stupid us for thinking that. But in the end what's the difference? As soon as the update is in AOSP our awesome devs have it ready for us to crackflash. These complaint threads are getting old, when did XDA turn into Facebook?
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How are the 4.0.4 ROM? Any improvement in speed and smoothness? Did this fix the data lost issue we had with 4.0.3 where our phones would lose 3g data while on a bad area zone?

jesusice said:
I am a very happy CDMA Nexus S owner. I've been rocking 4.0.4 on my NS4G since this morning, I'm not sure what people are complaining about. Yes, we all thought that since we have Nexus devices we'd get personal invites from Goog to test out their new OS. Turns out this is not true, stupid us for thinking that. But in the end what's the difference? As soon as the update is in AOSP our awesome devs have it ready for us to crackflash. These complaint threads are getting old, when did XDA turn into Facebook?
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Because the purpose of purchasing a nexus is not have to wait for the latest software plus have a pure google experience. If I need to flash software that's been out for 4 months like 4.0.3 this is an obvious fail for the nexus program.
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4.0.4 is real nice. No problems at all. Everything working smoothly.
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rasengan82 said:
How are the 4.0.4 ROM? Any improvement in speed and smoothness? Did this fix the data lost issue we had with 4.0.3 where our phones would lose 3g data while on a bad area zone?
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Seems faster and smoother to me. I actually turned animations back to 1x its so buttery. Haven't experienced the data issue yet.
qhinton said:
Because the purpose of purchasing a nexus is not have to wait for the latest software plus have a pure google experience. If I need to flash software that's been out for 4 months like 4.0.3 this is an obvious fail for the nexus program.
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It's more a fail on our part for believing Google's marketing. In the end though, we still have the new OS updates available right away via AOSP. They just don't get pushed to our phones via OTA right away. But this is XDA, who the hell wants to sit around waiting for an OTA??

b1337 said:
time to switch to gsm, cdma is old school hence why google dont care
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All the original GB updates hit the 4g first, it's cdma carriers proprietaries that are all off a sudden an issue.
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Google pulls nexus 4 factory image

Google has just removed the nexus 4 factory image from the developers site. Does mean another update?
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Conspiracy Theory ON:
Google found that they haven't really disabled the OTG in the firmware
Conspiracy Theory OFF
Seriously, no one knows and Google never removed an image previously when no new Image was posted

Google gets scary First the AOSP driver thing then OTG now the Firmware? Please stop going into the Apple direction!

Wow the entire Occam section is gone...

Probably a precursor to an update that disables LTE, since they could get in hot water with federal regulators regarding it since it was never approved for LTE.

Anyone have a back up link to the images they pulled? I'm still looking around for em. But if you have a link handy please share!
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https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B_zuNWpIf1ujNlFDVnZ3dzg2WEU
From oldblue's sticky in General...

I think 4.2.2 will be rolling out soon.
By the way, there is already a thread like this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043440

Net.silb said:
Already a thread like this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043440
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This thread was 2 hours before that one

Is there any mirror to the proprietary binary drivers, not just the system image? Or do the drivers reside inside of the image?
Thanks in advanced.

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Will all the problems with the ordering, supporting, glass breaking, battery draining, etc. They probaboly just said "F*** it" and discontinued it
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My guess its either because of the LTE Radio and/or new release coming. I wouldn't put money on it though.

Verizon Xoom Jelly Bean Soak Test

Invites went out today. Finally, we're getting an official Jelly Bean update 10 months after WiFi. If anyone is participating in the soak test, could you pull the OTA URL? I wonder if this will be JZO54K like WiFi or if it'll be a newer build of 4.1.2. I guess we'll see!
Thanks!
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This is excellent news of course, despite being ridiculously late arriving.
I have been running the leaked Motorola 4.1.1 JRO03H build since it dropped last June so I certainly hope its a newer build than that one.
It's actually quite stable despite some annoyances like limiting write access to the sdcard and keyboard misbehavior persisting.
The radios perform very well in this build so it will be interesting to see what changes, if any, appear assuming a new baseband is included.

How do you capture the URL?

I think it's a shame google stopped supporting the xoom. A google experience device and for a long time, the baby of android, always getting the OS updates first. Now it's just the red headed stepchild to the nexus 7 and 10. I would love to see google give us official 4.3 but that probably won't happen. If they did though, it would be really good PR and xoomers would rejoice.

scoobaspeaz said:
How do you capture the URL?
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When you get the OTA notification, but before applying the update, run adb logcat and output it to a text file. It'll be in there. The URL will be something like this: http://android.clients.google.com/p...signed-trygon-JZO54K-from-IMM76L.abcdef12.zip
Thanks!
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cellzealot said:
This is excellent news of course, despite being ridiculously late arriving.
I have been running the leaked Motorola 4.1.1 JRO03H build since it dropped last June so I certainly hope its a newer build than that one.
It's actually quite stable despite some annoyances like limiting write access to the sdcard and keyboard misbehavior persisting.
The radios perform very well in this build so it will be interesting to see what changes, if any, appear assuming a new baseband is included.
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There's no discussion. It'll be newer. It'll either be JZO54K like Wi-Fi or a newer build of 4.1.2 that we haven't seen yet (unlikely). I'm sure there will at least be a new CDMA baseband if not a new LTE baseband as well. I say this because the original leaker of that 4.1.1/JRO03H build had a newer CDMA baseband in his screenshot that no one had ever seen before (03.1A.66SP), but his LTE baseband was the same as the IMM76L ICS build.
Speaking of that leaked 4.1.1/JRO03H build, it looks like it was just the Wi-Fi build with the LTE drivers dropped in for testing.
The leaker claimed that Verizon had signed off on it but I don't buy it for two reasons. First, it was never released. Second, that build has a major DRM bug. Google Play Movies won't stream content when using that build because either the DRM keys are hosed or the build itself has something turned on that makes the app think the ROM is rooted.
As for how he got it, he said his own Xoom had the build installed by Motorola development. That much I do believe due to the fact that he had a CDMA baseband that no one else had ever seen.
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Anyone get the soak test yet?
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oldblue910 said:
Anyone get the soak test yet?
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Not yet. I have made a couple posts about this up and coming and seems no one heard me. Glad to see someone is happy as me
I am 100% certain I will get the soak as I have received the last 3 released on my phones. I will go to xda w/out passing "go " or collecting $200 lol. No pit stops. You will be the first to know.
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Thanks, man!
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I am on pins and needles for this. Hopefully the soak test starts today!
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Small snag...my xoom is not my daily driver b/c I gave to my wife. I will not have my hands on it until next week. Hopefully I can pull the link from email when it hits...if not just be patient with me. Her finals is this week and don't want me messing with it lol.
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csmoore88 said:
Small snag...my xoom is not my daily driver b/c I gave to my wife. I will not have my hands on it until next week. Hopefully I can pull the link from email when it hits...if not just be patient with me. Her finals is this week and don't want me messing with it lol.
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No worries. By next week hopefully there will be a public OTA! haha
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Project: platform/build
eab7126 : JZO54L
Project: device/moto/stingray
80ce2db : RIL and network configuration update for new modem
looks like maybe you'll be getting JZO54L....

xdatastic said:
Project: platform/build
eab7126 : JZO54L
Project: device/moto/stingray
80ce2db : RIL and network configuration update for new modem
looks like maybe you'll be getting JZO54L....
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Thanks! Note if only they'd hurry and release it! haha Where did you find that?
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oldblue910 said:
Thanks! Note if only they'd hurry and release it! haha Where did you find that?
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sorry i forgot to give my source. was a google plus post by this mob which linked to their site:
http://www.funkyandroid.com/aosp-JZO54K-JZO54L.html
...which can be verified here:
https://android.googlesource.com/device/moto/stingray/+/android-4.1.2_r2
it doesnt confirm you'll get that build, but seems likely i guess.

And our seemingly endless wait continues. Ugh.
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I also got an invite for the soak test and signed up. I'd be happy to help out. My Xoom is on the Verizon network but my bootloader is unlocked. Will I need to lock the bootloader to get the update?

ggparker said:
I also got an invite for the soak test and signed up. I'd be happy to help out. My Xoom is on the Verizon network but my bootloader is unlocked. Will I need to lock the bootloader to get the update?
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Nope, your bootloader can remain unlocked. As long as you're running the stock ICS 4.0.4/IMM76L firmware, you'll get the update when they finally do roll the soak test out. Do you know how to pull an update URL, or do you need me to provide you some quick steps?

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Nope, your bootloader can remain unlocked. As long as you're running the stock ICS 4.0.4/IMM76L firmware, you'll get the update when they finally do roll the soak test out. Do you know how to pull an update URL, or do you need me to provide you some quick steps?
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I am running ICS 4.0.4/IMM76L so I should be good. I just ran adb logcat and dumped the logs. Worked fine. So after I receive the notification but before downloading and installing I need to run logcat, correct?

ggparker said:
I am running ICS 4.0.4/IMM76L so I should be good. I just ran adb logcat and dumped the logs. Worked fine. So after I receive the notification but before downloading and installing I need to run logcat, correct?
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You got it. Just output the logcat to a text file and then search the text file for "android.clients.google.com". Post the URL here. Simple as that. Thanks for your help!

Unofficial builds

Why are so many people bringing out unofficial builds of current roms?
There is nothing wrong with this but the original makers are normally available and IMO better. If you want to make a rom instead of jumping on someone's work why not make your own from scratch?
I my self take roms and add to them, cherry picking the best things of others for my own use but I'd never put them up as my own work.
There are even unofficial nightlys for goodness sake!
Am I the only one who thinks this? Id love to know......
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howard bamber said:
Why are so many people bringing out unofficial builds of current roms?
There is nothing wrong with this but the original makers are normally available and IMO better. If you want to make a rom instead of jumping on someone's work why not make your own from scratch?
I my self take roms and add to them, cherry picking the best things of others for my own use but I'd never put them up as my own work.
There are even unofficial nightlys for goodness sake!
Am I the only one who thinks this? Id love to know......
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What would you say about the original, (custom rom builder if I understand correctly) who use the original maker of the base, in this case Google? You have to start somewhere. Sometimes a rom might not do everything you want it to, so you tweak it. Some people want to share their creation.
A lot of Apple fans wish that had/have the freedom to do this.
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I do it my self. I don't put them up. There is nothing wrong with taking the Google base and rebuilding. What I'm on about some one has a hit rom, Next there are tons of unofficial ones with the same name. That's all
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Unofficial because the original team was late in delivering the kitkat update. Take liquidsmooth for example. You can find there are unofficial nightly of this rom because liquid team doesn't update it frequently. So my friend @rwaempires and @mnajem took their time compiling it. Recently, liquid team has started to maintain official updates for this device but they also gave permission for rwaempires to continue compile nightly build for faster updates. That all there is to it imo.
Edit: Anyway, don't you think that they just want to give back something to the community? Isn't that what we do here? Learn and then contribute back. Nothing wrong there and it is a good thing. If you have your builds, maybe you could share them and see what people think of it.

howard bamber said:
I do it my self. I don't put them up. There is nothing wrong with taking the Google base and rebuilding. What I'm on about some one has a hit rom, Next there are tons of unofficial ones with the same name. That's all
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not even a sin unless the original dev pissed with your uploads
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