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Anyone else looking forward to their next phone?

If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2

im buying a blackberry or htc hero this week. im done with winmo.

Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.

zenulator said:
Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.
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yeah but i wonder what the price tag will be? better start saving now zen.

I can't imagine the phone NOT being subsidized in part by the carrier, you know... like everything else they've ever put out - it'll just be close to half a million when it first comes out like it always is.
But yes, I like the touch a lot but I really miss the hardware keyboard on my MotoQ, I am now not only against all screen keyboards, but will never buy another phone that doesn't have a hardware keyboard now.

boe said:
If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2
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HA did you say YOUR choices are limited? I'm with Bell Mobility. MY CHOICES ARE MUCH MORE LIMITED

well i can say goodbye to winmo in a few days. i just got a great deal on 2 new blackberry curves from sprint for only $50, so i got one phone for free!

come on windows mobile is great. i only have to hard reset every week or so.

I've had my WinMo HTC Touch with Sprint for over two years and I had to hard reset all of like twice....and one of those times was just to install WinMo 6.1. So yeah, maybe you guys are just doing something wrong, lol.
As far as my next phone, I am getting that HTC Touch Pro 2!! It look so amazing and I am dying to get my hands on it. HOWEVER, I just might change my mind because these new 1GHz phones seem so freakin' beastly. I gotta see when they'll be out and if it'll be worth the wait. Also I gotta see if they have all the features I want.

The Verizon Eris or Droid doesnt look so bad......

Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.

It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!

Macmee said:
Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...

Just pre-ordered 2 Droids from Best Buy last night... all I can say is we are uber-excited about this device!!!

aross6 said:
It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!
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Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.

We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right? How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?

justpyro said:
We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right?
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I'm not sure...
justpyro said:
How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?
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$50.00 to pre-order/hold the Handset, $149.99 due at the time of pickup (price with new 2 year contract is $299, but Best Buy gives you the $100 rebate instantly unlike Verizon retail locations)

fireshaper said:
Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.
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Make sure you order before 11.15.09, because after that date Verizon is increasing their ETFs from $175.00 to $350.00... source: CNET
... and I can't believe your wife doesn't want a Droid.... my wife is STOKED to get her hands on it after having a Vogue-Droid for these past many months...

Bell getting Samsung Galaxy?
plemen said:
Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...
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I went into the local Bell retail store, looking at phones. Talked to the guy about the HTC Touch Diamond. He looks at me weird, asks "You like Windows Mobile??". I grin back, and say, "No, I like Android, but that's the closest I can get with you guys." I pull out my vogue and show him plemen's themed Donut build. At this point he tells me to hold on to my $200 upgrade credit a bit longer... as they will have the Samsung Galaxy within a month! Apparently the Samsung rep had been in the day before to talk 'em up about the Galaxy and Android, how awesome it's gonna be... yadda yadda. Needless to say, I'm holding onto that upgrade credit of mine for a *bit* longer

The galaxy is very un-exciting.
Better to get an unlocked Hero from Telus and put it on Bell.

Buying the EVO

So unless I'm mistaken, the hero came out less than a year ago, which means that anyone who bought a hero doesn't have their yearly upgrade yet. So my question is, how is everyone planning to buy the EVO without paying $500?

I'm fronting the cash. This means I'll be able to use my upgrade for the next sweet phone in another 6-8 months.
Others have multiple phones on family plans and are juggling the phones within their plan to get one.

i dont get upgdrades so im selling the hero for 300. i have a credit card for the rest

Gregalous said:
So unless I'm mistaken, the hero came out less than a year ago, which means that anyone who bought a hero doesn't have their yearly upgrade yet. So my question is, how is everyone planning to buy the EVO without paying $500?
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my parents are going to help me get mine. right now they are on t-mobile and they plan to come to sprint, open a new account get the upgrade price then i'm going to switch my mom out for my hero. me and my old man are planning on rocking the **** out of some evo's. he has the tp2 on t-mobile i'm bringing him to the dark side...

I have to wait until October ... very sad

I have five phones on my plan. I typically use one of my kids upgrades to get a new phone, then give them my old phone. Time to pass the Hero along.

$449 - $80 for hero trade in meaning $369 and no contract renewal

Gregalous said:
So unless I'm mistaken, the hero came out less than a year ago, which means that anyone who bought a hero doesn't have their yearly upgrade yet. So my question is, how is everyone planning to buy the EVO without paying $500?
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That's not true. I'm not really sure why, but I and my wife are both eligible for the full upgrade and we bought Heros on the early release day from best buy. I checked online and I called Sprint just to confirm and they assured me we both qualified.

i'll get mine free from friends.

i have 3 lines that get upgrades all at different times. still deciding wether to get the evo or not though. my main line is eligible for upgrade.

I have an everything data plan with six lines. Go figure.

Avalaunchmods said:
i dont get upgdrades so im selling the hero for 300. i have a credit card for the rest
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Not to be rude but you will never get $300 for a hero even brand new. Maybe $200 if your lucky and i stress lucky. I got to play with an evo and im going to pass on it. Im already seeing alot of people complaining about the phone and slow downs after you install apps. Plus the fact there is a big issue with software & the shipped sd cards that come with the phone. Alot are talking about the possibility of sprint/htc releasing a fix for it but that could also mean they could patch root for those guys as well. So far they seem to have done a pretty solid job patching root on our hero's with the RUU.

markus_del_marko said:
Not to be rude but you will never get $300 for a hero even brand new. Maybe $200 if your lucky and i stress lucky. I got to play with an evo and im going to pass on it. Im already seeing alot of people complaining about the phone and slow downs after you install apps. Plus the fact there is a big issue with software & the shipped sd cards that come with the phone. Alot are talking about the possibility of sprint/htc releasing a fix for it but that could also mean they could patch root for those guys as well. So far they seem to have done a pretty solid job patching root on our hero's with the RUU.
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really no slow downs for me,.............

danknee said:
I'm fronting the cash. This means I'll be able to use my upgrade for the next sweet phone in another 6-8 months.
Others have multiple phones on family plans and are juggling the phones within their plan to get one.
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im really thinking about doing this as well

Sporkman said:
im really thinking about doing this as well
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Ive read some of your posts, you sure seem to have gone through alot of phones in less than a year. Must be nice to have money to burn on a phone that will be outdated in 4 months.

Im buying it from radioshack so hm my dad has his phone on the line and has not changed it since 2008 so ill use his DUH!!!

So yea....I've heard on here that the EVO (without contract) is 450-500.....when if fact it is going to sold for $549 without contract. Trying to keep my Hero, and buy the EVO outright.....but only so many things I can sell on ebay, lol.

markus_del_marko said:
Ive read some of your posts, you sure seem to have gone through alot of phones in less than a year. Must be nice to have money to burn on a phone that will be outdated in 4 months.
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Are you always this pessimistic? People have different situations, and different views on what's worth what. The Evo will become outdated just as EVERY other handset/PC/Laptop/Macbook/etc.... Your phone must be really outdated if you don't want to spend your money on anything that's not going to be top of the line half a year from its release. As for me, I've been through 4 phones in the last year, and will be getting an EVO. And when the next best thing comes out, I'll probably get that as well. Waste of money? Maybe, but you can't take it with you, and I've got it to spend.

I just came back to Sprint from T-Mobile today... going to dump the Hero I bought (this is my second Hero, and this one lags SOOO much it's hardly usable at all) within my 30-day window and grab the Evo which I ordered already.

markus_del_marko said:
Not to be rude but you will never get $300 for a hero even brand new. Maybe $200 if your lucky and i stress lucky. I got to play with an evo and im going to pass on it. Im already seeing alot of people complaining about the phone and slow downs after you install apps. Plus the fact there is a big issue with software & the shipped sd cards that come with the phone. Alot are talking about the possibility of sprint/htc releasing a fix for it but that could also mean they could patch root for those guys as well. So far they seem to have done a pretty solid job patching root on our hero's with the RUU.
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just sold it today for $325.
believe me i had mine set up very well. no lag at all and the people wanted the roms on the sd card. their problem now

G1 stilll worth getting?

I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending. A friend of mine is selling his G1 for pretty cheap in good condition. That combined with the Even More Plus plans sounds like a better deal than being stuck in a contract again for 2 years.
I know the phone is crazy old, but it still seems to have great support for roms and such. I have no problems with rooting and flashing at all.
Also, for the people who are with T-Mobile right now, if I start a Even More Plus plan right now, would I be able to "upgrade" to contracted phone down the road, which would prompt me to the more expensive plan, should I ever get a real itch for a Vibrant or things coming out later this year.

I just got mine today lol i love it
My other phone is a tilt 2 tho

Really no point. On CL in my city g1s are 60 used 120ish new. It still has awsome support but remember, its close to 2 years old.... With technology going at the pace its at, think of it like comparing a 2010 mustang against a very well maintained 1985 mustang. Its definately a usable phone and will make you pleased, but won't compare with the advancements in speed, fuel economy, safety, etc...
If you asked this question 7-8 months ago, I would have totally recomended it. Now, not so much.
P.S. download the APN on/off widget or APNdroid to turn off data, so you can qualify for cheaper talk/text only plans. Data is roughly $20-30 more expensive, plus your phone will be functional under wifi. Plus battery lasts longer
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

i would say the same as mej,
but totally.. now.. its not much worth. I would totally go for a nexus one if i had to buy a new phone

T-Mobile don't even sell G1s anymore, do they?
Anyways, if you're getting a contract, don't buy an old phone! Get a myTouch slide or wait for the Sidekick Twist.

I would just get the Vibrant right now, because I think if you come into your contract with a used G1 you can't get a new phone till you're up for an upgrade. Besides, the Vibrant(along with most of the other Galaxy S lineup) is top of the line right now. They are benchmarking higher video framerates than a EVO 4G. Plus it has 720p HD video recording, and HD video out so you can play back what you recorded on a hdtv. Also has a accelerometer and gyroscope, giving it a 6-axis g-sensor for epic gaming. Oh yeah, and it's the baddest phone T-Mo has right now, period.

I purchases my G1 2 months ago, best buy ever (paid 100 uk pound,around 130euro then, with 8GB microsd, ...).
Still no phone with a tilt keyboard yet (had a tilt, htc kaiser, much better then htc pro, but the G1 has a nicer touch screen (the tilt was also running android 2.1).

If your stuck on Tmobile, don't want to spend too much, and want a new phone before your contract ends, then go for it
Nowadays with a new contract you can get some pretty good phones for really cheap prices

I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!

I got my G1 this past January... and while I don't regret it, there's no chance I'd buy this phone now. Every day I wish this thing had a Snapdragon in it. If you're really worried about contracts go with an unlocked phone for more money upfront - at least with T-Mobile, the plan will be cheaper, so it'll even out.
Again, the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.

I don't believe you'll be able to take an Even More Plus plan and then go to an Even More plan right off the back, at least not with your same number...but, If you sign up for google Voice at the same time as getting the g1, give out that number to everyone as your new number, when you upgrade your to a contract(if you do), that GV number will still be the same and you'll just have to change the number under your GV settings.
Would I buy a G1 right now? If it was 0-50, maybe 75 with an 8 gig sd card. We've got 2.2 running on our phones now as a daily driver. it makes/receives calls, what more you need from a phone?

Zoltair Wright said:
the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
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^^ this i love my dream and i've had it less than a year but would trade up 2 a droid in a heartbeat (i still need that real keyboard even if the droids is crap)

Zardos66 said:
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending.
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I do have one question... why not stay with Sprint? Their plans are competitively priced with T-Mobile, and they have excellent Android devices. The Epic 4G is due out soon, which should be an amazing phone by anyone's standards. And it will have a hardware keyboard, like the G1...
If price is the most important, don't go with T-Mobile. Get an unlocked T-Mobile phone and take it over to Simple Mobile at mysimplemobile.com. They use the same 3G bands as T-Mobile but you get unlimited talk, text, and internet for a flat $60/month.

t140568 said:
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
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He is not interested in a contract. He wants to get a used G1.

Well I Just bought one to hold me off until the "Project Emerald" phone comes out. It's better than using a non android phone. I think that using it as a temporary phone it will do the job.

Still an awsome phone but :] mTS 2 for 1 lol

If you don't care about having a fast phone, go for it. I just went from g1 to vibrant, and the vibrant is everything I wanted the g1 to be. The g1 is gonna give you a taste of what android can do, so you may end up wanting something better.
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well ive gone from a blackstone (WM) to a G1 and I love it. If you get the right rom it isnt slow and android is just great I love it....also devs are still making stuff for it all the time its great....

[July 21][Q] Is it really worth to buy HD2 now?

Hi everybody in this wonderfull forum.
To get straight to the point, I'm planning to get a new phone in the next month.
I've serched alot but found no smartphone has multi-boot abilities like HTC HD2. The HTC HD2 has 'quiet' good hardware in comparison to current smartphones on stores shelves. You all know that already.
The problem is, for an outdated device like that, is it worth buying it new? as i don't trust used smartphones anyway.
The way i see it like this:
Yes, very worthwhile because:
Large nice display;
Multible OS support, live in many worlds;
While WM6.5 is depricated, still very functional specially with HTC sense;
The price is affordable according to the fact that it is old somehow.
No, it's worthless because:
Display is sub-bar to currnet devices display regarding multitouch, 65K colors limitation, and overall quality against S.AMOLED Plus or Retina displays for example;
Multible OS support is great but won't go without issues. At least won't be as fluid as native OS on its own device;
Camera is not decent (no 720p video recording, at least as much as i'm aware of);
The price is affordable yes but i can add up a bit more and get newer phone that is better hardware wise and withought much issues.
I know this question might been asked many times. still i ask as it is time dependent and the answer change over time.
What do you guys recommend me to do?
Buy HTC HD2 and fulfill your needs to 'Have It All' and don't complain about any issues;
The time is over for an outdated device even with multiple OS's possibility, save your money son.
Thank you all in advance,
Ahmed.

Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
Hope this helps

Is say buy a re-conditioned hd2 save some money, android feels native to my hd2 its more native than most android devices because it has a bigger team working on it.
Is you want android and you want to save some ££££ get one if you want android and £££££ aren't an issue get the galaxy2
If you don't want android then I don't want to talk to you.... lol
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Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.

Jammie_1989 said:
Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
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Thank you for your reply.
So to sum it up, you think no need to buy new. and iPhone looks better value in your eyes.

htccraze said:
this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.
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Seems nice point of view. Thank you

Not a problem. I even found radioshack at times have good sale prices on they're phones. I think all of these will even let you use your upgrade if your due for one. if you do plan even down the road i found it worth wild to try to find those promo codes. just go to your browser..yahoo/google whatever and type in wirefly promo codes or wirefly coupon codes. it will give you tons of sites but if you take a little time like i said it could save you a good amount of money. glad i could be of any help.

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Thank you,
Just to make it clear, i currently hold Blackberry Curve 8520 that i want to replace. The next phone would be my main phone for at least 2 years. I live in Egypt so no access to T-Mobile stuff i think.
If i to buy a phone, no way i could change soon. my budget now about 3000 L.E or 500 USD. Still, i know phone prices are higher in Egypt than USA so don't let that 500 USD think of high end devices as i wont be able to get them here with that price.

you could always look for a device that could be used world wide and buy it in the U.S offline from someplace like amazon/ebay etc and have it shipped to Egypt. Im really ignorant to what would be in Egypt and wouldn't as far as stores so im not sure what would and wouldn't work. sorry. i did almost buy the g2 from ebay in the UK because it was a lot cheaper there then here in the US and the seller told me it would work but i bought the hd2 instead so i dont know for sure. i can say the hd2 is a gsm phone so like tmobile or if its unlocked you can use at&t. im sure there are ways to get it on different gsm providers but im clueless of how to flash it over.

Yep that's a problem. I don't know what i buy abroad would work here or not. besides shipping has costs plus government share ... i think it'd be the same if i buy form local stores besides the guarantee that what i buy works.

I'm using a second hand one after smashing my old one, never had an issue you'll pick one up for £160 (15k)
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Ask your questions in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623197
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Go for new device. Go for Samsung galaxy s2. But if htc hd2 satisfies ur needs then go for it, no need to go for new devices.

go get it!
i've got one just a month ago, after waiting for financial resources.
i think is the best phone ever!

I was wondering about this too and was told that some devs are working on the Desire HD. Might be something to look into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765

the htc hd2 can run ROMs that are desire & desire hd base so thats always a plus but considering that the next phone will be your main phone for two years i really think buying a new phone is the best route for you. also if you ask whats a good phone in a specific model thread everyone will tell you they have the best phone so checking out reviews on sites like cnet.com & testfreaks.com are probably your best option as far as getting an idea on a good phone. i still would check the threads after you have an idea on a couple phones you like just to see what people can do with those phone's that aren't really listed in the specs.

Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I red them all and figured out this. i like to play with different OS's. This is what i do on PCs so, i guess if i'm bounded to a single OS (however its greatness), i'd miss having other mobiles with other OS's. The HTC HD2 seems a good deal to me. And its hardware is not that bad afterall.
Thank you again,

i buyed a broken hd2 for 90€ 1 month ago. all i can say it's that it's a wonderful smartphone, no other phone on the planet can run 5/6 OS, android feels like native, and developement is still real active. i didn't feel the need of a faster smartphone.
hardware is really good, photo aren't bad, we have 720p recording with wp7 and soon on android too, screen is ok, multitouch is perfect, it lacks video out, but how many time we need a tv-out? (i used tv-out on my ipod video 2/3 times in 3/4 years just to test it), it lack a frontal camera, but hey! i hate calling, i double hate video calling
so i didn't need anything else

Yep you are totaly right in my opinion. However, i saw many videos on youtube complaining about battery life even on the stock os. i know big screen = battery drain faster. but 6 or 8 hours aren't accepted at all as some videos shows. They also said stuff about lags and the need to restart the phone few times weekly and sometimes daily. Can anybody confirm or deny this claim? I'd appreciate it.

Should I get a DZ?

I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and still have a more than 1.5 yrs on my contract and was wanting to get a newer phone since my Hero is getting annoying with random reboots and lag. I can potentially get a DZ for ~$200 and was wondering if it was still a good choice and can/will last the remainder of my contract without getting laggy/unreliable. I want a physical keyboard so it is either a DZ or BB Bold =\
Thanks for the help.

Bold sucks. If you want a good qwerty phone thats new, you can try motorola droid 3. Amazing specs!
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evilcuber said:
Bold sucks. If you want a good qwerty phone thats new, you can try motorola droid 3. Amazing specs!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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Yeah, but that's a CDMA phone. Since OP is thinking about a DZ, that means he's on GSM.

Stargazer418 said:
Since OP is thinking about a DZ, that means he's on GSM.
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MentalDeath said:
I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and ...
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Just thought i'd point that out ;D..
on topic, GO FOR IT! i was in the EXACT situation as you but 6 months ago. Given the same situation now, i'd still go for the DZ. I NEED a hardware keyboard and we don't have the mt4g up in the north. Though you probably could just order one in from the states, but the DZ is much better than the mt4g IMO. There is no other phone out there IMO that beats the DZ in terms of capability, design and inclusion of a hardware keyboard.. that is.. until the G3 comes out =p
side note: DO NOT get a BB.. ANY sort of BB.. NONE of their batteries last past a year and they tend to crap out just outside of the mfger's warranty period. All my friends who have BBs love it for BBM for the first 6 months, then it starts crapping out and i laugh in their faces because android is king.

MentalDeath said:
I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and still have a more than 1.5 yrs on my contract and was wanting to get a newer phone since my Hero is getting annoying with random reboots and lag. I can potentially get a DZ for ~$200 and was wondering if it was still a good choice and can/will last the remainder of my contract without getting laggy/unreliable. I want a physical keyboard so it is either a DZ or BB Bold =\
Thanks for the help.
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if its DZ vs. BB Bold its not even a question to get the DZ. Definitely wouldn't pay over $200 for one this late in the game though, make sure you get a good deal.

Thank you all for the feedback I really appreciate it and now I really want this phone once again (I wanted it really badly when it first came out)
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if its DZ vs. BB Bold its not even a question to get the DZ. Definitely wouldn't pay over $200 for one this late in the game though, make sure you get a good deal.
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Well $200 is the best deal I've found so far (on Kijiji) the person says it is brand new since they got it from a warranty claim.

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Well $200 is the best deal I've found so far (on Kijiji) the person says it is brand new since they got it from a warranty claim.
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Yea brand new $200 is about right. Used/roughed a bit is worth less obv.

martonikaj said:
Yea brand new $200 is about right. Used/roughed a bit is worth less obv.
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Alright awesome, here's hoping they response to my msg asap.

Athrun88 said:
Just thought i'd point that out ;D..
on topic, GO FOR IT! i was in the EXACT situation as you but 6 months ago. Given the same situation now, i'd still go for the DZ. I NEED a hardware keyboard and we don't have the mt4g up in the north. Though you probably could just order one in from the states, but the DZ is much better than the mt4g IMO. There is no other phone out there IMO that beats the DZ in terms of capability, design and inclusion of a hardware keyboard.. that is.. until the G3 comes out =p
side note: DO NOT get a BB.. ANY sort of BB.. NONE of their batteries last past a year and they tend to crap out just outside of the mfger's warranty period. All my friends who have BBs love it for BBM for the first 6 months, then it starts crapping out and i laugh in their faces because android is king.
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My mom has the blackberry bold and she has gone through about 6 or 7 of them, for your own sake, just dont.

MentalDeath said:
I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and still have a more than 1.5 yrs on my contract and was wanting to get a newer phone since my Hero is getting annoying with random reboots and lag.
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Yes, do it! I did the exact same thing as you in late June. I had my Hero (from TELUS) for about 14 months at that point, and picked up a DZ locally for just under $200, unlocked. Rooting it is a bit hairy compared to the Hero, but a good exercise to go through. My DZ was originally purchased from Bell, the guy I bought it from had it on his Rogers account, and now I'm using it with my TELUS SIM. I sold my Hero and accessories for $150, so net upgrade cost was $50 and I avoid having to renew my contract.

Funny, I upgraded to Desire Z also after having a HTC Hero for 1,5y
I would recommend DZ, I use it over a month now and i'm satisfied.
The only thing is of course the battery life, but it depends on how intensive usage you plan.
The keyboard is OK, only thing I miss is directional arrows (pretty uncomfortable to use the d-pad when you have hands on keyboard). Don't worry about the dedicated number row, it's not needed. You can write numbers with Fn key on with no problem.

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Yea brand new $200 is about right. Used/roughed a bit is worth less obv.
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Retail or with contract??

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Retail or with contract??
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I am pretty sure he is talking about buying privately.
Anyone want to sell me a DZ for ~$200? No one on Kijiji is responding to me

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I am pretty sure he is talking about buying privately.
Anyone want to sell me a DZ for ~$200? No one on Kijiji is responding to me
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Most of the private sellers on eBay/CL/Kijiji are pricing their secondhand DZs around $250 to $300 or so. I lucked out with an eBay seller who setup an auction with no reserve and no BIN, and not many people bidding on it, so I managed to get it for just under $200. Local pickup too, so I could verify it worked with my SIM.
There are a few DZs up for auction right now from Canadian sellers, sitting at around $100. Make sure you're not bidding on an "as-is" phone.
http://tinyurl.com/3fsu3we