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How comfartable is reading of PDF documents on Galaxy Tab?
Quite good, if you get Adobe PDF reader app. I have a bunch of articles from various research journals on my Tab and they're quite comfortable to read. You get nice and smooth pinch to zoom as well as the double-tap zoom-to-fit that you know from the browser. Only small problem I found was that it doesn't recognize that the text can be in several columns. Landscape orientation is a work-around for that, as a normal A4 page zoomed to fit width-wise onto a landscape screen is just the right size to read 10 or 11 point text comfortably.
Ezpdf reader is great on the tab. It even has flip pages animations. I read magazines with it all the time
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Thanks for the tip...
I can tell you that the pre-installed thinkoffice is just great, from my point of view better than the adobe reader.With big file size adobe have more problems to handle the memory.
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i was wondering if someone very cool would take pics or vids of the Xoom used in portrait mode. I tried the Honeycomb emulator, but i'ld like to see apps like Gmail, Gtalk, Maps, etc. and the general use of the tablet in this mode (and there's no Honeycomb tablets here in France yet).
Thx !
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Hope this is at all helpful... Attached is a .mv4 file inside a .zip file.
Yes it is, thanks !
It seems usuable in this orientation, can't wait to have my hands on Homeycomb...
If you have time to shoot some other apps, like Music and Gallery, maybe the browser, it would be nice
Thx again !
pierreburel said:
Yes it is, thanks !
It seems usuable in this orientation, can't wait to have my hands on Homeycomb...
If you have time to shoot some other apps, like Music and Gallery, maybe the browser, it would be nice
Thx again !
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I haven't looked at the attachment, but portrait is not unusable at all. I use mine in portrait about half the time. It's great for browsing and Reader, and perfect for books. Gmail is better in landscape, though. It's somewhat app-dependent.
Yeah, i think Honeycomb, and particularly the 10.1 widescreen of the Xoom, are meant to be used in landscape. I just wanted to know how it looked like, especilally with two-panes layout like in Gmail and Gtalk.
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I haven't looked at the attachment, but portrait is not unusable at all. I use mine in portrait about half the time. It's great for browsing and Reader, and perfect for books. Gmail is better in landscape, though. It's somewhat app-dependent.
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Same here. If Im reading something, mines in portrait... more specifically, with the top of the xoom to the left, held in my left hand. The rubberized texture of the top seems to help get a good hold and the weight is distributed pretty damn well.
cobraextreme said:
I haven't looked at the attachment, but portrait is not unusable at all. I use mine in portrait about half the time. It's great for browsing and Reader, and perfect for books. Gmail is better in landscape, though. It's somewhat app-dependent.
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I'm confused. How can you say it's not usuable at all and then talk about 3 apps you use in portrait (and you use it that way half the time??).
My .02. I prefer landscape obvious, but I do use it in portrait all the time. I take notes in meetings in portrait actually. I write in bullet form for those notes, so I can see a few days worth of notes in portrait, whereas I can only see a few lines in landscape (with the keyboard visible). Other apps, landscape is definitely better. I do wish the case took into account possibly using the xoom in portrait.
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I'm confused. How can you say it's not usuable at all and then talk about 3 apps you use in portrait (and you use it that way half the time??).
My .02. I prefer landscape obvious, but I do use it in portrait all the time. I take notes in meetings in portrait actually. I write in bullet form for those notes, so I can see a few days worth of notes in portrait, whereas I can only see a few lines in landscape (with the keyboard visible). Other apps, landscape is definitely better. I do wish the case took into account possibly using the xoom in portrait.
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theres a double-negative thing going on in there. He said that its not UNusable
Just to keep you up to date
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15958#c8
Romainguy and google's stuff are aware of the issue.
AlessandroIT said:
Just to keep you up to date
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15958#c8
Romainguy and google's stuff are aware of the issue.
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Nice...
BTW, I used to live just north of Naples. Right across the main road from Lago Patria. I found the house we lived in on Google Earth. Pretty cool seeing it again after 20+ years!
I find that the 5.3 inch high definition screen on the Note means there is usually no need for panning and zooming whilst Web browsing. I normally see a whole Web page in portrait view and if the text is too small to read or select with a finger then landscape view plus the S-Pen usually works. I am using the Dolphin browser where you can easily select Desktop and full page viewing. Of course a large Tablet is better, but no use for carrying around as a phone.
it would be much better if the default browser had a more permanent way of defaulting to desktop versions of pages.
but with other browsers, its a better experience.
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I find that the 5.3 inch high definition screen on the Note means there is usually no need for panning and zooming whilst Web browsing. I normally see a whole Web page in portrait view and if the text is too small to read or select with a finger then landscape view plus the S-Pen usually works. I am using the Dolphin browser where you can easily select Desktop and full page viewing. Of course a large Tablet is better, but no use for carrying around as a phone.
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I have the same setup and find the experience a pleasant one.
Gaugerer said:
I find that the 5.3 inch high definition screen on the Note means there is usually no need for panning and zooming whilst Web browsing. I normally see a whole Web page in portrait view and if the text is too small to read or select with a finger then landscape view plus the S-Pen usually works. I am using the Dolphin browser where you can easily select Desktop and full page viewing. Of course a large Tablet is better, but no use for carrying around as a phone.
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It's much easier to browse web sites on the Note. I can see much more of the site in the screen and find little if any need to go look on a computer instead.
After testing all the browsers the boat browser mini is speeediest by far... Haveused it for months... Try others... Always come back.
I'm close to buying a Nook Simple Touch. These are my criteria and what I'm expecting:
I already have an iPhone. I want the Nook mostly for reading eBooks and viewing lecture slides in class.
I have owned a Palm Zire 71 before. How is the IR touch screen like? I'm not expecting the responsiveness of a capacitive touchscreen. Does it work by detecting pressure like a Palm? Does it have multi-touch? It's not really necessary as long as pan and zoom can function well. Can you annotate on it like on a Palm?
This is taken from what I posted in another forum:
How's the contrast of E-Ink Pearl? Is the background the colour of recycled paper or closer to optical white?
I feel a Nook is good value for money because I actually buy classic novels at 3.50 USD a pop and Project Gutenberg will save me money in the long run. Furthermore, my textbooks (limited to 10% of the content to comply with Australian copyright laws) have been put up online.
Also for viewing lecture slides. I print out 6 PowerPoint slides a page on my B&W laser printer and at that size, the diagrams in the slides are not clear. I only need the touch for zoom and pan. Rather than annotating on my printouts (which can be 6 pages or longer), I could save paper by viewing them on the eReader and taking notes separately on a sheet of paper.
My classmates use iPads or laptops in class. It's hard to navigate slides on a laptop by scrolling. Love the smooth navigation of the iPad but on both devices they struggle to type notes/draw using a capacitive stylus. Not to mention the temptation to browse Facebook/play games on them!
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What Android apps run on it after rooting? I'm thinking Chess and simple word-processing apps. Not expecting Angry Birds, but would something like amateur Angry Birds clones (so many of these on iOS e.g. Angry Pig Daddy) work because they have very low framerates?
Can I load files from Dropbox instead of over USB?
Hardware keyboards need to be connected by USB, right? I guess USB headsets won't work because the Nook lacks an audio chip.
Can it be compared to a Palm (albeit with a greyscale eInk screen)? For reading eBooks, browsing the internet in B&W and running simple [Android] apps and simple annotation.
Would the Nook Simple Touch meet my needs?
Technically multitouch is supported with the latest update, but I have yet to see it actually work.
The touch screen is pretty responsive, but a pen won't work; you need something bigger. There's also no film over the screen, and the actual IR beams are just above the screen, so if you want you don't have to touch the actual screen.
As for contrast, the color of the screen when blank is pretty close to white, with just a very slight shade of brown.
The Nook runs Android 2.1, so most apps won't be available, but I use my Nook to take notes in class (high school) using a free office app. Angry birds is available and is pretty playable if you change the orientation and turn off the background from the main menu.
The Dropbox app is in the Market, and I think there's an app that will sync folders on your SDCard (or maybe your Nook's file system) with Dropbox.
I also have a Palm Zire (31?), and I still use it to record homework and for its calendar; haven't found a decent working calendar app yet for my Nook. Maybe I'll just make one sometime.
How do you zoom and pan? By dragging on scroll bars?
I'm more and more impressed!
I'm amazed that Angry Birds is playable! I've seen the YouTube video. Why do you need to change the orientation? To decrease the resolution? How about instead making the app run in a 320 * 480 window like a low-end Android phone?
(Can't post links yet. Search "nook simple touch stylus". It's the Blogspot blog in the first result.) Nice! I'm leaning towards using a paintbrush! Maybe I'll trim the barrel of a fat pen and stick a silicone earplug in there like what he did in the first photo.
Do you type in class on the touchscreen keyboard or using an external keyboard?
I had a B&W Palm Zire 31 as well from when my mum used it for work. Not the same as yours.
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haven't found a decent working calendar app yet for my Nook.
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Did you try Calendar Pad? Working fine for me.
Has anyone's Nook ever broke? I'm buying it from someone who's bringing it in to Malaysia from the US. I have to ship it to B&N and B&N will deliver it to a US address, which will forward it to me in Malaysia.
Can you boost the contrast in Android so that similar colours won't have the same shade (look 'flat') when converted to Grayscale?
Does JavaIDEdroid work on a rooted Nook? The site says it seems to run okay on Android 2.1. I just want to use this to do light editing on assignments (I study CompSci). All my Java programs are only command-line based.
ETA: I might have found a good stylus! The rubber tip of Pilot FriXion pens (that are used to erase the ink by friction).
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How do you zoom and pan? By dragging on scroll bars?
I'm more and more impressed!
I'm amazed that Angry Birds is playable! I've seen the YouTube video. Why do you need to change the orientation? To decrease the resolution? How about instead making the app run in a 320 * 480 window like a low-end Android phone?
(Can't post links yet. Search "nook simple touch stylus". It's the Blogspot blog in the first result.) Nice! I'm leaning towards using a paintbrush! Maybe I'll trim the barrel of a fat pen and stick a silicone earplug in there like what he did in the first photo.
Do you type in class on the touchscreen keyboard or using an external keyboard?
I had a B&W Palm Zire 31 as well from when my mum used it for work. Not the same as yours.
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For zoom, I haven't had much luck with it, but the office app I use has a slider for zoom (Kingsoft Office. Terrible, but works). I use GO Keyboard to type, and after installing it to an Android emulator to get to the settings it works well.
I change the orientation so the screen refreshes more than once every two seconds, but it does make trails to be made behind the birds. When a bird jumps while waiting to be launched, it can only be described as a flaming bird.
The Zire 21 was B/W, the 31 is blue and has a color screen. (I have both for some reason)
good for epub. screen is small for detailed slides.
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I'm close to buying a Nook Simple Touch. These are my criteria and what I'm expecting:
I already have an iPhone. I want the Nook mostly for reading eBooks and viewing lecture slides in class.
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The nook is great for reading ebooks (epub) -- that's what it was designed for. PDF support is very disappointing (IMO). zoom is extremely limited.
This assumes you are using the default app on a stock nook. I'm still working on getting mine to run other apps.
The small screen size might be disappointing for viewing lecture slides.
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Has anyone's Nook ever broke?
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yes.
The nook is pretty fragile. I recommend buying a good case.
The "designed for nook" case in the store looked to me like it would pop open too easily, so I got a Kindle case with a zipper (M-Edge Latitude). It's a tight fit, but it works.
Kindle 4 and Nook Simple Touch have the same H and W dimensions, but the Nook is thicker (11.9 mm vs 8.6 mm)
I just bought my Nook ST yesterday! I love it but I find the ghosting and the blinking refresh annoying and I hope the NoRefresh tweak would fix that.
How do you zoom in on images in the stock app? Can you pan/scroll instead of turning the page? IS there any way to rotate so that PDFs display in landscape mode?
Does highlighting work in PDFs? I can get the text to zoom in but am unable to select the text.
I'm holding off rooting until I get a microSD card. I also don't have a microSD card reader on me at the moment. Can you just write the disk image when the card is in the Nook? I see an external drive show up in Windows Explorer.
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I just bought my Nook ST yesterday! I love it but I find the ghosting and the blinking refresh annoying and I hope the NoRefresh tweak would fix that.
How do you zoom in on images in the stock app? Can you pan/scroll instead of turning the page? IS there any way to rotate so that PDFs display in landscape mode?
Does highlighting work in PDFs? I can get the text to zoom in but am unable to select the text.
I'm holding off rooting until I get a microSD card. I also don't have a microSD card reader on me at the moment. Can you just write the disk image when the card is in the Nook? I see an external drive show up in Windows Explorer.
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Don't write the image to the mSD when it is in the Nook! This will damage your Nook! /bold text
I don't think you can zoom in the stock reader, but when you root you can get a PDF app and use that, and you can force the screen to display in landscape when you need to. Also, you cannot pan in the stock reader, only pages.
As for NoRefresh, that app is advancing by leaps and bounds, and should work well for most apps.
Okay I hear you. I just read the warning in another thread after posting this about potentially bricking the Nook when writing the disk image to the microSD inside.
Is the screen refresh annoying in third-party PDF readers? Would be a shame to lose colour depth to just black and white by using NoRefresh.
cceerrtt said:
Did you try Calendar Pad? Working fine for me.
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Thanks for that recommendation. Calendar Pad is a good replacement for the stock Android Calendar program. Not having a giant SD card image is nice.
Are you aware of a way to enable/disable specific account calendars that are displayed. I can do this on other devices with the stock app, but haven't found an equivalent function in Calendar Pad.
i think NST is just right for you.
I also have iphone and ipad. but they just for game or chatting.
NST is for reading.
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Thanks for that recommendation. Calendar Pad is a good replacement for the stock Android Calendar program. Not having a giant SD card image is nice.
Are you aware of a way to enable/disable specific account calendars that are displayed. I can do this on other devices with the stock app, but haven't found an equivalent function in Calendar Pad.
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Yes, use the stock Calendar application (with giant SDcard image) to select your calendars (menu -> More -> My Calendars). This setting has effect also for Calendar Pad.
Ok, I did originally post a thread in the Nexus 10 forum, as originally I was planning to upgrade to either a Nexus 10 or an iPad 4 (largely due to the high powered processors and the lovely high-def screens).
However, as one of the things I use my iPad for is drawing (mostly vector based at the moment) someone pointed out that the Note10.1 might be a better option.
The relatively low-resolution screen (barely more than my ipad1) put me off though... but seeing as I can pick up a Note10.1 for £268 at the moment.... this is in its favour.
And something else also grabbed me when I researched, and that is this video... (hope this link works)
edit: link didnt work, so I put this one up.
http://youtu.be/LZ3krff1JCE
The multi-window and dual-view things... which I *believe* is not in the standard android toolkit? Though originally I was happy with the android floating apps, like lilypad and stickit, for having videos floating over my work etc...
So basically, I had become intrigued by this tablet, and I wanted the thoughts of professional Note users like you guys!
my art style is shown here -- niiru.deviantart.com
in case that helps. All the newer stuff was done on a vector program on the iPad, the older stuff is sketchbook pro (also iPad).
Vector program means the S-Pen is not needed for me... though if it is good, it could help me to develop more techniques, which would be a good thing.
Things I'd like answers to:
- Is the screen any good? I know the resolution is low... if you dual-view two apps, do they become blurred? etc...
- Is is powerful enough to multi-task apps, or play high-spec stuff, without slowdown or lag? I need this to be fairly future-proofed if possible..
- Considering the main (if not only) reason to get this over a Nexus10 is the SPen... how good is it really?? I have heard that, due to some problems with interference in certain parts of the screen, it loses accuracy in certain places? Which would be pretty much terrible...
(link to this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970470)
Thanks guys, I hope you can convince me or if not, recommend either the Nexus or the iPad for me!! haha
28 pages of comparison to the N10. A lot focused on the display.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952512
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28 pages of comparison to the N10. A lot focused on the display.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952512
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I did start reading this, though a lot of it did not seem to be related to what I needed (a lot of it is pre-nexus release anyway). I'm still reading through the last few pages though.
Seems like the screen being low resolution is not to bad a downside.. mainly due to the lower drag on processor power. However I would like to hear peoples opinions on wether dual-viewing items makes them blurry. I'm hoping not.
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I did start reading this, though a lot of it did not seem to be related to what I needed (a lot of it is pre-nexus release anyway). I'm still reading through the last few pages though.
Seems like the screen being low resolution is not to bad a downside.. mainly due to the lower drag on processor power. However I would like to hear peoples opinions on wether dual-viewing items makes them blurry. I'm hoping not.
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This pretty much sums it up. For all but text and the UI the additional pixels won't make much of a difference. Most of the apps in multiview display the same size fonts and graphics only in 50% less space. The browser resizes text in multiview and a higher PPI display would definitely help. In everyday use the lower res display isn't a problem. But if it weren't for the S-Pen and the rest of the features Samsung's added which I personally get a lot of use out of I'd probably go with N10. If a FHD version of the Note comes out next year I'll definitely upgrade to it. Until then the other stuff means more to me than FHD.
When it comes to 1080p on a smartphone, he admits that it might not matter for the most casual users. "For some people, it is possible to tell the difference if we were to sit down and study a [1080p] display and a [720p] display, side-by-side," he said in a phone interview with Ars. "If you’re really a fanatic and you study images, or you have some professional applications and you’re really into displays, then it may make a visual difference for you."
For most people, though, it won't matter. Photos are inherently fuzzy, so it won’t matter whether they’re viewed on a 1920×1080 or 1280×720 smartphone display; you’ll still see their imperfections. "Even the tiniest image detail in a photograph is always spread over more than one pixel," Dr. Soneira explained in a follow-up e-mail. "The image detail is never perfectly aligned with the pixel structure of the display." Videos are even worse: not only are they fuzzy like photographs, but the pictures are constantly moving. Even if the images were sharp, the human brain couldn’t zero in on content that’s appearing for only a fraction of a second on such a small display. "For ordinary viewing of videos, 1920×1080 is really not going to make a visual difference," adds Dr. Soneira.
Where a 1080p smartphone display could really make an impact is with computer-generated content—that is, the user interface, buttons, and text. "Only computer-generated images make full use of the pixel resolution of the display," says Dr. Soneira. "For graphics and text, maybe you want that kind of sharpness." Like desktop computers, smartphone displays can also utilize sub-pixel rendering, which helps improve the visual sharpness of computer-generated graphics.
After about 15 inches, "the much higher 326 ppi is 'wasted' because the eye can't resolve sharpness above 229 ppi." The further away a person gets, the more gradual the reduction in perceived image sharpness.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/1080p-on-a-smartphone-screencan-it-possibly-matter/
Mind if I ask what "other stuff" you use from the samsung list? Dualview and multi-windows from the new update does seem very nice, what else is there that might tip my balance?
being able to get one for £270 is nice too, so if anyone knows of a recommended case too thats not too expensive?
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Mind if I ask what "other stuff" you use from the samsung list? Dualview and multi-windows from the new update does seem very nice, what else is there that might tip my balance?
being able to get one for £270 is nice too, so if anyone knows of a recommended case too thats not too expensive?
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Here's the laundry lost of what the Note can do. What I find particularly useful is in red. People use their devices differently and may have different hot buttons.
- Multiview (enhanced in JB)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps (enhanced in JB)
- Enhanced audio and video codec support
- IR port
- Browser h/w acceleration
- S-Voice (added in JB)
- Air View (added in JB)
- Group Cast (added in JB)
Video Air View – Preview videos without opening them. View future/past scenes in a playing video via the timeline without stopping it.
Photo Air View – Pictures contained in folders will display in thumbnails when you hover over the folder. They advance nine at a time.
E-Mail Air View – Hover the pen over a heading or contents of an e-mail summary (including via the widget) to see an exploded view of the contents without opening it.
S-Planner Air View – Hover the pen over an event or task to see an exploded view without opening it.
Pop Up Note – Tap the screen twice with the S-Pen button depressed and a pop up note will be displayed. Even on the lock screen when the device is locked. On the N8000, if you’re in a call and remove the S-Pen from its holder, a pop up note automatically opens.
Easy Clip – Capture anything on the display (lasso) anywhere and save it to the clipboard or send it an application (including S-Note).
Draw/Write on an e-mail – As it says.
Draw/Write in S-Planner – As it says (Month View only)
Color Picker – In S-Note, set the ink color to a color selected from a picture.
Pen Switch – Select multiple pen types (color, texture, weight) and toggle through them without opening the menu by pressing the button on the S-Pen once.
Sketch Affect – Change any picture to an outline, color sketch, pencil sketch and more from within S-Note.
Share S-Notes – Convert S-Notes to plain text, PDFs, or pictures and share them via Facebook etc. in one step.
Photo Note – Write personal notes on the back of photos
Gallery Organizer – Create folders and drag and drop pictures between them.[/INDENT]
Hmm... the multi-view stuff was a definite draw to me, and the mini-apps is interesting? I'll look into that one.
The ability to chuck down a pop-up note anywhere is also *very* interesting to me. I tend to use evernote for my small notes...
I believe that the multi-windows and dual-view is limited to only a few specific apps, is this still true with JB? (I did see a thread where someone had made a program to add multi-view to a lot of other .apks... which might be good as an alternative anyway)
At the moment, despite the screen resolution, the Note is edging ahead of the Nexus for me. The potential for the pen to make me improve my work is intriguing.
I'm going to check the accessories thread to find out about case recommendations etc
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I believe that the multi-windows and dual-view is limited to only a few specific apps, is this still true with JB?
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Mini apps and multiview were merged in JB. Mini apps pre-JB were a bunch of utility apps like calculator, alarm, mini note, etc. To access them you'd hit the up carrot in the notification bar. They were fixed in size but could be moved and stacked across the screen.
Pre-JB multiview was limited to six apps and they were fixed in a 50/50 split.
Post-JB all the supported multivew apps are treated the same way. They can be viewed as "mini apps" floating on the screen (they're resizable now too) or can be viewed side-by-side the way they use to in "dual view." The split in dual view is changeable now by moving the dividing line between the two open apps left or right. The push pin allows you set one or more apps as always on top.
The apps supported in multiview are: stock e-mail client, messaging (N8000), phone (N8000), contacts, S-Planner, S-Note, stock browser, Polaris Office, Gallery, My Files, Music Player, stock video player, calculator, alarm, task manager, and world clock. As you noticed there's thread running on a tweak that enables third party apps to be added to multiview.
Another big benefit because of the inductive display is hover. As an example, you can hover the S-Pen over a menu and it'll drop down so you can make a selection. It allows you to use things like the browser the same way you would on a desktop PC.
I think the main thing you want to think about is how the stylus may help your sketching. If you've ever used a capacitive stylus (like the adonit jot), then think about that, and multiply the usefulness and ease by about 10. If you don't think the stylus will be any use to you, then I think you're probably better off looking at the Nexus 10 or iPad. Anyway, you ought to check out the thread on Note sketches before making a decision, it's like a couple threads down from this one.
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The apps supported in multiview are: stock e-mail client, messaging (N8000), phone (N8000), contacts, S-Planner, S-Note, stock browser, Polaris Office, Gallery, My Files, Music Player, stock video player, calculator, alarm, task manager, and world clock. As you noticed there's thread running on a tweak that enables third party apps to be added to multiview.
Another big benefit because of the inductive display is hover. As an example, you can hover the S-Pen over a menu and it'll drop down so you can make a selection. It allows you to use things like the browser the same way you would on a desktop PC.
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Thankyou, I did know about the changes to the dual-view in JB (eg. resizing the width) but I didnt know about the multi-view stuff. I'm glad there are more apps now, though if the tweak I read about that adds multi-view to third party apps continues to work decently, that would be a really decent plus-point to this tablet Although obviously I wouldn't try and multi-view a highspec app like photoshop, it would be nice to be able to have my kindle app and a web browser open simultaneously sometimes.
And talking of browsers, the MAIN FLAW I always find with my iPad is that, on sites with drop-down lists, you cant hover over them to drop them, you have to click and load the next page instead. (deviantart has this for instance).
Being able to actually hover... this might well swing it for me haha
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I think the main thing you want to think about is how the stylus may help your sketching. If you've ever used a capacitive stylus (like the adonit jot), then think about that, and multiply the usefulness and ease by about 10. If you don't think the stylus will be any use to you, then I think you're probably better off looking at the Nexus 10 or iPad. Anyway, you ought to check out the thread on Note sketches before making a decision, it's like a couple threads down from this one.
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I use a boxwave stylus when I draw on the ipad, never liked finger-drawing. it doesnt do any pressure sensitive stuff, I just preferred the pen feel.
http://www.boxwave.com/ipad-stylus/capacitive-ipad-stylus/bwpdd/tgz-tmmw/
Thats the kind of thing I had (mines a bit better but still). The rubbery tip was so much better than the solid flat plastic ones I have seen (much like I believe the Jot uses?) which just felt strange and clicked a lot. The other one I tried had a little blob of foam on the end, which just felt horrible.
I suppose really I should try the Note stylus before making my mind up, but I assume its a fairly typical inductive-screen stylus. Fine point, much like a wacom tablet one.
This reminds me... the nexus and ipad have gorrilla glass screens, I assume the Note doesnt though obviously.... does this mean I should get a screen protector? Will this effect the pen usage?
Ideally I would prefer to avoid a protector, and use a folio case instead (its what I did with my iPad, and the screen is still pristine after 2 years) but I'm not sure if the pen is likely to leave marks... I will have to search
It's simple.
If you honestly believe that having high resolution display makes ANY difference when it comes to drawing... or that your enjoyment of the tablet will be reduced for not having it - get an iPad or a Nexus 10. You'll be happier not knowing better and you'll save us tons of pointless discussion.
If, on the other hand, you put a "low resolution" screen next to an iPad 3 or 4 and notice that for most things - it's not really much of a difference - except maybe for small text - which isn't going to be the focus of your use anyway - then it's even simpler.
There is no other ARM tablet that uses a Wacom pen.
It's just that simple.
And if you're a digital artist - I don't even have to waste time explaining why having a Wacom pen blows away any sausage or capacitive disk pen on an iPad - regardless of resolution. The Note 10.1 is essentially a compact, portable Cintiq for 1/2 the price. No other argument should be necessary,
The pen has 1024 pressure levels. It works with *any* penenabled system pen (Samsung sells one for its Series 7 Slates, for example) giving you a full sized pen with an eraser - which works perfectly on the Note 10.1.
The only other question is: what software do you use to draw. And even that's simple: go to play.google.com and see if it's available - or if there's an equivalent that's close enough that you'll be ok with it.The Note comes with Photoshop Touch and Sketchbook Pro is available as well, but neither of these are vector drawing apps. The reality is, since the iPad is seen as an 'artists' tablet, you'll be waiting for the more esoteric art apps on the Note. For example: Colors doesn't exist on the Note yet.
And there you have it. I draw a lot on my Note. But I use it and a Samsung Series 7 Slate together. The Note is for sketching and details to a certain point - then I switch to the Slate for more complex effects and details that require more horsepower.
Finally - as I pointed out when I got an HP Slate 500 - a good artist isn't about his or her tools - it's about what they do with those tools. I know an artist on FA who draws on a Nintendo DS with 16 pressure levels using Colors.
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A NINTENDO DS.
WITH COLORS.
I hope that puts this entire silly discussion into perspective.
TheWerewolf said:
It's simple.
The only other question is: what software do you use to draw. And even that's simple: go to play.google.com and see if it's available - or if there's an equivalent that's close enough that you'll be ok with it.The Note comes with Photoshop Touch and Sketchbook Pro is available as well, but neither of these are vector drawing apps. The reality is, since the iPad is seen as an 'artists' tablet, you'll be waiting for the more esoteric art apps on the Note. For example: Colors doesn't exist on the Note yet.
And there you have it. I draw a lot on my Note. But I use it and a Samsung Series 7 Slate together. The Note is for sketching and details to a certain point - then I switch to the Slate for more complex effects and details that require more horsepower.
Finally - as I pointed out when I got an HP Slate 500 - a good artist isn't about his or her tools - it's about what they do with those tools. I know an artist on FA who draws on a Nintendo DS with 16 pressure levels using Colors.
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The vector app I researched into (on android) was one called Infinite Design. It seems to tick all the required boxes (pen tool, layers, impor/export .SVG files.)
Having the SPen will mean I can venture back into sketchbook as well though.
I'm going to go into town tomorrow and check out a Note, as it seems to be the best for what I need. Just got to find a decent case, and decide between white and grey...