[Q] New desire Z. S-OFF - A few haunting questions! - G2 and Desire Z General

hi,
Received my desire z today. And planning to root it. I am coming from wildfire so this is a little different.
My phone is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it.
my firmware version is : 1.34.720.6
S-ON
Hboot is 0.85.0005
These questions are haunting me:
1.Do i need to do a S-Off to be able to flash custom roms? or is my hboot good enough to install custom roms with just root and S-On.
2.will i have any problems without soff and only root? like flashing radios or kernals?
I am assuming i dont need a sim unlock because its unbranded anyways. correct me if i am wrong. but gfree does sim unlock along with s-off.
I tried searching but dint get any results. please help. Thanks.

The only answer I know is you won't be able to flash anything through the bootloader. That means if you want to flash a radio or any other PC10IMG.zip, you have to find a recovery-flashable version and flash it through your recovery (the unsafe way). Kernels are normally flashed through recovery so that is not an issue.

c00ller said:
The only answer I know is you won't be able to flash anything through the bootloader. That means if you want to flash a radio or any other PC10IMG.zip, you have to find a recovery-flashable version and flash it through your recovery (the unsafe way). Kernels are normally flashed through recovery so that is not an issue.
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Oh yeah. i understand that. perhaps i dint frame my question right.
I am going to install a custom recovery. say Clockwork.
But is root + custom recovery is good enough to flash roms and kernels etc or is S-Off compulsory?

1. You need S-OFF to be able to flash custom roms, or clockworkmod recovery.
2. With S-ON (I think) you will be able to flash new radios, but considering that you will not be able to flash clockworkmod recovery you will not be able to flash custom kernels.
Considering that you can use any SIM card you don't need SIM unlock, but if you want custom roms, and kernels you will need S-OFF and clockworkmod recovery
To gain s-off you have this tool, but I have never used it, I gain S-ff downgrading from 1.72 to 1.34 using this tutorial , but you already have version 1.34 so you have to start from step 13.

Thanks. I had one more question. Is hboot 0.85.0005 rootable? Can I just follow the guide you provided?
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rahulkrathod said:
Thanks. I had one more question. Is hboot 0.85.0005 rootable? Can I just follow the guide you provided?
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Yes it is, you can follow the guide starting from step 13, the steps from 1 to 12 are used to downgrade the software to the version 1.34 witch you already have.
Or try to use AMT i think it is easier.

Thanks buddy. Rooted!
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[Q] How to go back to S-ON?

Hi everyone,
I have a htc desire z and have it perm rooted and S-OFF.
Now i want to go back to stock with my Nandroid backup i've made before flashing other roms.
I can go back to my nadroid backup but then i want to update my stock rom with the update that came out some time ago. But for that you have to Unroot and S-On again... HOWWWWW CAN I DO THIS???
Which update do you want to apply to the stock ROM ? You don't have to unroot and S-ON to apply an OTA update, and currently all the known OTAs are rootable (you will lose root but keep S-OFF if you got it via gfree).
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Well, i was trying to install the OTA update but it didn't work.
Couldn't install the update.
So i thought it was becouse the S-OFF...
Sh0rty007 said:
Well, i was trying to install the OTA update but it didn't work.
Couldn't install the update.
So i thought it was becouse the S-OFF...
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If you have custom recovery (CWM) then I think the OTA won't work. But you can always just flash the stock recovery back on (e.g. via fastboot or flash_image) then you should be ok.
Or you can just flash the 1.72 ROM complete, though you will lose all your data/settings.
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So... if i flash stock nandroid back.. and uninstall custom recovery what is ROM manager i guess, i can update stock with the OTA update?
Or how do i get rid of the cwm otherwise?
Sorry if i'm asking stupid questions thnxx for your help!
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Yeah just flash the stock recovery back on via fastboot or flash_image, then you should be able to apply the OTA, assuming you haven't done other stuff that might break the update (e.g. removing stock apps).
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Ok, i'm gonna try it now. First uninstall rom manager and then try then ota update.
But i'll loose my root you're saying... is it rootable again for now? Couse i understand that otherwise i can't flash another rom for a while...?
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Sh0rty007 said:
Ok, i'm gonna try it now. First uninstall rom manager and then try then ota update.
But i'll loose my root you're saying... is it rootable again for now? Couse i understand that otherwise i can't flash another rom for a while...?
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The 1.72 DZ OTA ? Yes, that is rootable via the psneuter method now, it's just you cannot use gfree to get S-OFF at 1.72, that's why a downgrade may be necessary for some (i.e. if you are at 1.72 and S-ON).
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similar question here. I didn't made a backup for the stock recovery module. If so how can i restore the stock recovery? Are there any available on xda?

Can't root

Universal androot didn't work, z4root didn't work, superoneclick failed and its starting to drive me insane enable root access is hidden from the hidden menu please help thanks in advance
Sorry if it has been posted somewhere else I searched but I couldn't find anything to help
Hi, what ROM did you used?
If you're using custom ROM, not stock ROM, it has already root.
nope im trying to root my friends phone for him he's on stock rom. i have rooted lots of other phone with superoneclick without any roblems but this ones a bit tricky :\
I'm afraid that you will have to flash custom ROM into it.
How can I flash a custom Rom onto it if its not even rooted?
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dmcb123 said:
nope im trying to root my friends phone for him he's on stock rom. i have rooted lots of other phone with superoneclick without any roblems but this ones a bit tricky :\
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Joestone has made a brief tutorial about how to root gt540 on Modaco.
Have you check his thread and try his method.
Here is the link : http://android.modaco.com/content/lg-gt540-optimus-gt540-modaco-com/319174/root-lg-gt540-with-1-click-running-2-1-os/
nope that didnt work either :\ thanks though
dmcb123 said:
How can I flash a custom Rom onto it if its not even rooted?
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I have an ulity for root, I can send it to u when I get home...
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You DO NOT have to root the GT540 to install Custom ROMs. You will need to flash a "Fastboot ROM" to install Recovery and Custom ROMs. There are plenty of guides here and on MoDaCo on how to flash custom ROMs. If a guide tells you to root your phone before flashing a ROM, don't. You don't have to.
Hope it helps,
Jack
JackG256 said:
You DO NOT have to root the GT540 to install Custom ROMs. You will need to flash a "Fastboot ROM" to install Recovery and Custom ROMs. There are plenty of guides here and on MoDaCo on how to flash custom ROMs. If a guide tells you to root your phone before flashing a ROM, don't. You don't have to.
Hope it helps,
Jack
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well that changes things thank you so much, all the other phones i have messed with needed root before you could flashh roms so i assumed it was the same here thanks again
dmcb123 said:
well that changes things thank you so much, all the other phones i have messed with needed root before you could flashh roms so i assumed it was the same here thanks again
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No problems mate, It's just the GT540 differs from the rest in this case. I still stick to my views and think every phone should have an unlockable or already unlocked bootloader, Where no flash or w/e is necessary lol
Jack

[Q] How to downgrade to 2.2

I upgraded my wife's g2 to the official tmobile gingerbread release (used the pre rooted deodexed gingerbread rom) and need to return the phone to tmobile for an exchange. Before the upgrade to gingerbread I rooted and enabled permanent s-off.
1. Will I have any issues just flashing the stock tmobile 2.2 rom through clockwork recovery?
2. Once downgraded will I have to root again to go back and undo the permanent s-off
3. Is there a rooted stock rom available to flash? Want to be able to restore apps + settings while awaiting a replacement?
dig around the forums for an original PC10IMG.zip of the shipped rom and flash that through bootloader
Any issues using the rom in this thread. Looks like its a flashable .zip file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788489
Can I flash the above rom through the bootloader? Want to make sure I don't brick the phone before I do this.
matyou98 said:
Can I flash the above rom through the bootloader? Want to make sure I don't brick the phone before I do this.
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Hi !
You can not downgrade at all because the install of an older PC10IMG.zip will give you a "main version too old" error.
Normally you solve this by using misc_version to change the main version string in the misc partition.
But to do this you need (temporary) root access.
All published temp-root methods (rage and it's derivatives like visionary, z4root, ... - psneuter - gingerbreak) have been patched in the official T-Mobile G2 Gingerbread release.
So enough background info for now - This firmware version is not rootable and can not be downgraded (for now).
Have fun - Guhl
Of course we will post and update if the situation changes
I have this gingerbread rom installed. Can anyone confirm that this version cannot be downgraded.
Flashable version of PC10IMG_Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13.531.8 Leak, that football posted, and yes this is the final release.
Rooted
Deodexed
Busybox in attachment
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matyou98 said:
I have this gingerbread rom installed. Can anyone confirm that this version cannot be downgraded.
Flashable version of PC10IMG_Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13.531.8 Leak, that football posted, and yes this is the final release.
Rooted
Deodexed
Busybox in attachment
Zipalign
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Wait, you got a rooted version of it installed?
If yes, you can use misc_version to set the main version back to a lower or equal value of the rom you want to install and then install the PC10IMG.zip through hboot.
Have fun - Guhl
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guhl99 said:
Wait, you got a rooted version of it installed?
If yes, you can use misc_version to set the main version back to a lower or equal value of the rom you want to install and then install the PC10IMG.zip through hboot.
Have fun - Guhl
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the rooted flashable version is found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852
i downgraded from the Gingerbread leak using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 It worked perfectly! i am now at 2.2
noeeBEAST said:
i downgraded from the Gingerbread leak using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 It worked perfectly! i am now at 2.2
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how i thought you need temproot for that
So I flashed the rooted gb rom above through clockwork. Will I brick my phone if I flash the stock rom I linked above through clockwork? Is it really this hard to go back to stock?
I think there is a lot of miscommunication going on here. I think the problem is that users are having a hard time differentiating between the unrootable leak and the rooted leak.
I'm having to send my g2 back also, I'm rooted, s-off'd, and using the rooted version of the tmob gb leak. ive got cwm installed too, should I be able to use the pc10img to completely wipe, set s-on and go back to 2.2?

3 easy questions about m9+

Hi,
i just bought a new HTC one m9 plus but before rooting the device i was trying to find any RUU compatible with it. 3 easy questions:
1) is the root guide compatible with android marshmallow?
2) i have an htc_hiau_m1_tuh1, OS 2.27.401.1., is there any way to maybe backup the original recovery and ROM before instaling TWRP or something similar?
3) Do i still have to pay for S-OFF? Any other way to go back to locked bootloader after rooting if i need warranty? Thanks
digio1996 said:
Hi,
i just bought a new HTC one m9 plus but before rooting the device i was trying to find any RUU compatible with it. 3 easy questions:
1) is the root guide compatible with android marshmallow?
2) i have an htc_hiau_m1_tuh1, OS 2.27.401.1., is there any way to maybe backup the original recovery and ROM before instaling TWRP or something similar?
3) Do i still have to pay for S-OFF? Any other way to go back to locked bootloader after rooting if i need warranty? Thanks
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1. Yes you can root easily... U just need the latest supersu zip
2. Dont know about that but taking a full backup of your system right after installing twrp (before flashing anything) will fulfill your needs ie. Going back to full stock to update the rom
3. As far as i know sunshine is the only way to s-off at this moment.... I checked 2 months back im sure there were no free ways at that time
T3snake said:
1. Yes you can root easily... U just need the latest supersu zip
2. Dont know about that but taking a full backup of your system right after installing twrp (before flashing anything) will fulfill your needs ie. Going back to full stock to update the rom
3. As far as i know sunshine is the only way to s-off at this moment.... I checked 2 months back im sure there were no free ways at that time
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Thanks man! Do you know if the RUU "0PK7IMG_HIAU_ML_TUHL_L50_SENSE70_HTC_Europe_1.08.4 01.6_Radio_1.1506V24P14.1605.0421_HT[W.T]_release_431201_signed.zip" is compatible with my CID HTC__031? :laugh:
digio1996 said:
Thanks man! Do you know if the RUU "0PK7IMG_HIAU_ML_TUHL_L50_SENSE70_HTC_Europe_1.08.4 01.6_Radio_1.1506V24P14.1605.0421_HT[W.T]_release_431201_signed.zip" is compatible with my CID HTC__031? :laugh:
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Sorry.... Cant say

HTC 10 Root on s-on and locked bootloader?

I was looking around and found this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...m-1-85-605-9-aroma-root-root-debloat-t3529732), my question is that my HTC 10 is 100% unmodified with stock recovery, firmware, boot and download mode, can I flash the anything provided to attain root? Is the link helpful in any way?
P.S I'm from Pakistan so I can't ship the phone to Sunshine, and the phone is on Oreo latest update
If it's a Verizon unit (you're in a Verizon thread), no. There's nothing you can do.
hgoldner said:
If it's a Verizon unit (you're in a Verizon thread), no. There's nothing you can do.
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Yes it's a Verizon unit, even if I can't attain root can i at least debloat? via adb or anything, apologies for sounding so noob, because I'm not so familiar with locked phones
Also, will there be any possibility of rooting the Verizon unit, I haven't tried the Kingroot and all that kind of stuff, will it work?
No. Unless you can mail the device to the Sunrise crew, you are completely out of luck. And I am not sure if even that works once the device is on Oreo.
You can dowgrade to marsmallow or nougat using RUU, follow this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/verizon-official-ruu-1-19-605-9-t3377586
Then you can use Sunshine, download the app, and follow the instructions, you can gain s-off and unlock bootloader, flash any custom recovery and then gain root, using Magisk. Before you can update to Oreo
orlandosuarezm740324 said:
You can dowgrade to marsmallow or nougat using RUU, follow this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/verizon-official-ruu-1-19-605-9-t3377586
Then you can use Sunshine, download the app, and follow the instructions, you can gain s-off and unlock bootloader, flash any custom recovery and then gain root, using Magisk. Before you can update to Oreo
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You cannot downgrade without s-off.

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