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[Q] Why do Apple lovers hate the XOOM so much?

I am an Apple user (no kidding) and am puzzled at the lack of love for the Xoom, particularly at MacRumors (been a member since 2006). Where is the love?
Comments such as:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1118815&highlight=xoom
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1107003&highlight=xoom
and
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1109822&highlight=xoom
makes me wonder whether Apple users are mostly pricks?

I think it comes down to religious fanaticism. They feel that there is only one "right" choice and everyone else must follow them and they don't care how they achieve that goal. I've seen it here too.

It's funny because on here I think i haven't seen too many 'bad' words about apple / ipad - mostly that the UI is very clever, but not to their taste...
lack of customization etc.
I see apple stuff more as a fashion statement personally - and I'd feel restricted if I had one - but that said, I think it's good for people who want something simple...

Lothaen said:
It's funny because on here I think i haven't seen too many 'bad' words about apple / ipad - mostly that the UI is very clever, but not to their taste...
lack of customization etc.
I see apple stuff more as a fashion statement personally - and I'd feel restricted if I had one - but that said, I think it's good for people who want something simple...
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Well put...

To be honest if I wasn't such an android fanboy I'd be all on it. Apple makes great products and its a fact. However for a super user, anything but Droid is just.... boring.
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Because Motorola charges $300 premium over the iPad for a half baked product with a beta OS.

ChongoDroid said:
To be honest if I wasn't such an android fanboy I'd be all on it. Apple makes great products and its a fact. However for a super user, anything but Droid is just.... boring.
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Great products? Have you heard about the defect with their LCD screens? Light bleeds in several points of the edges of the screen. A lot of iPad users are complaining about it, but of course, hardcore Apple fans call it a feature. LOL

What the crap are you talking about? The Xoom isn't that much more the the 32gb 3g version of the ipad 2 and given how much more advanced it is via hardware...I can understand the price increase. Do I like paying more...no...but my Xoom works for my needs 10x better then the ipad. That is just my personal opinion. The wifi only Xoom is the same price as the 32gb wifi ipad 2. You need to compare price points for similar products...not just make random incorrect statements.
By the way, Xoom isn't that buggy at all...atleast not for my wife and I. People seem to forget that the ipad had to wait 8 months for fake multitasking as well as other features. Everything takes time.
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alex2792 said:
Because Motorola charges $300 premium over the iPad for a half baked product with a beta OS.
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Report his post, ignore him and move on, if you look at his past posts all he does is troll. Some people have no life.

Thread Closed as we done need a flame war...

Way to go Google :(

http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)

Guess ill have to go back to stealing DVDs from Walmart.

MASSIVE epic fail

Except there isn't any phone support yet? The only device they could base this off of is the Motorola Xoom. I'm waiting until Google officially gives the ability to watch on my phone before believing this. And if this is true, back to Netflix and movie download sites it is.

xfullmetal17 said:
Except there isn't any phone support yet? The only device they could base this off of is the Motorola Xoom. I'm waiting until Google officially gives the ability to watch on my phone before believing this. And if this is true, back to Netflix and movie download sites it is.
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It's nice to be positive but this is just another step that has been taken lately that brings the likely end to support for "openness"

that's ok google, i'll just stream my dish network service to my phone for a one time fee and be able to watch the same channels i have at home for no additional cost.

I have netflix and hulu i'll be fine. I'm not that much of a movie watcher

Oh puhlease. Like this won't be hacked-in within a week. Hell, Vegas probably has odds on when.

I think you guys are missing the point.
Yeah, there many be alternatives to this specific service, but if this stands up it says that Google is no longer interested in openness.

People have been saying it's the movie companies pressuring Google. My question is why, since rooting alone doesn't mean you can bypass the payment service with Android Market. They'd still get their money.

mattykinsx said:
I think you guys are missing the point.
Yeah, there many be alternatives to this specific service, but if this stands up it says that Google is no longer interested in openness.
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Good. Death to "openness" and fragmentation. Lets the this OS on the right path so we wont have to jump through flames just get the "perfect" experience.
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I'm willing to bet they had to do something to make the mpaa happy. Google is a company trying to make more money (most companies do that). I can't blame them.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Good. Death to "openness" and fragmentation. Lets the this OS on the right path so we wont have to jump through flames just get the "perfect" experience.
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And as long as I can remove any app I want and have more modifications (say the way cyanogen allows you to)...you and I can agree.
(**** us agreeing? The rapture might actually happen today)

mattykinsx said:
And as long as I can remove any app I want and have more modifications (say the way cyanogen allows you to)...you and I can agree.
(**** us agreeing? The rapture might actually happen today)
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Lol. To honest that's one of the main reasons I root, I can't stand bloatware and not being remove drives me insane.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Lol. To honest that's one of the main reasons I root, I can't stand bloatware and not being remove drives me insane.
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Dont forget notification toggles.
That should be embedded into basic android code.

mattykinsx said:
(**** us agreeing? The rapture might actually happen today)
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I can die happy now. Let the lord cometh. I've seen it all.
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Common sense should tell people that for the movie industry to agree to provide this service to Android, Google had to agree to this.

mattykinsx said:
Dont forget notification toggles.
That should be embedded into basic android code.
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Yeah that to! I could care less about overclocking with a dual core phone. I really just want this OS to take off man its been way too long and I think google needs to get in gear; if they don't windows will catch up and grab a huge chunk of the market shares. Im not asking for much but most the features that android is lacking need to be standard, one shouldn't have to root to achieve all these things (the list is long lol). For some strange reason I really feel like when all these wp7 nokia phones come out it will give them a huge jump! Everyone knows Nokia always had ****ty software but hardware is unsurpassed. Honestly, I think google needs to hit android with some more design that uses hardware acceleration or something different from the plain aosp look. Im not talking sense, or other flavors I hate fragmentation, they need to overhaul the design for aosp.
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jayharper08 said:
I can die happy now. Let the lord cometh. I've seen it all.
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I think we'll live to drink another day.

conqu1stador said:
Apparently that rapture **** was about to go down, then this happened;
I think we'll live to drink another day.
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Lmao. That's pretty scary.
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[Updated w/ APK] New Market Design including a books and movies tab is being released

http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/google-updating-android-market-app-on-phones-adding-movies-and/
What do you all think?
Apk courtesy of Redneck_Trash
http://www.mediafire.com/?vdocx41t37rnn6y#1

mattykinsx said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/google-updating-android-market-app-on-phones-adding-movies-and/
What do you all think?
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Looks cartoony but it u never know

I, for one like it and this was needed very badly since the current Android Market just looks plain ugly.

I agree, I like the look of it in the videos.

eewww It kind of looks a little WP7'ish. I agree the market needs to be updated but not like this.
I still find the current android market alot easier to navigate and alot better then the amazon app store

I think it would be better if they used the home screen from this new market and then just used the rest of the market as it's already designed.
Google should be careful though.
Android, at least for phones, DOES need a more "finished" and "refined" look, that is one of it's faults, but they can't force it.

What does this mean for CM7 users? Will a new gapps be coming out or will we get the market update OTA?

m4rk0358 said:
What does this mean for CM7 users? Will a new gapps be coming out or will we get the market update OTA?
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The market updater "app" comes with gapps so it has it.
So yeah, it will OTA.

APK provided in OP courtesy of Redneck_Trash.

I like it, seems to run smoother/faster on my Evo. I can see the Metro UI'ish layout, but I like it.

I think I will keep my themed market over the new market.
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"Hell I don't know"

I think it looks okay; I'll flash it later. Thanks.

Looks good to me, Thanks for the apk.

Thanks Matty! Design looks well. apk worked just fine too.

I hate to admit it, but the apps (or lack of quality ones) is where the market sucks.
iOS truly has that market (pun intended) cornered. Once jail broken, I'm close to enjoying my iPad as a daily driver.

uniquenameevo said:
I hate to admit it, but the apps (or lack of quality ones) is where the market sucks.
iOS truly has that market (pun intended) cornered. Once jail broken, I'm close to enjoying my iPad as a daily driver.
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i will agree with you that apples market is a bit better than androids but i also believe that it makes a difference when you have developers paying money to develop apps and with android you have a lot more ... open source. I believe another huge difference is that everyones iphones are the same all of our android devices are different it must be a little harder to code for that. BTW i am not a programmer just an aspiring network admin so i hate writing code
any who i like the new market the old themed markets Never seemed to look right or all that cool so this is nice that they refreshed it so much.

Installed and I like it better than the current market. Thanks for this
If you can play rented movies via hdmi on tv, #win

ben.nesheim said:
i will agree with you that apples market is a bit better than androids but i also believe that it makes a difference when you have developers paying money to develop apps and with android you have a lot more ... open source. I believe another huge difference is that everyones iphones are the same all of our android devices are different it must be a little harder to code for that. BTW i am not a programmer just an aspiring network admin so i hate writing code
any who i like the new market the old themed markets Never seemed to look right or all that cool so this is nice that they refreshed it so much.
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I agree, it just sucks. I got a smoking deal on an iPad or I would never know. My android tablet has so many fewer choices on tab specific apps. And the phone apps I see...no comparison. I really, really want android to catch up.

Just upgraded ... This market it's really nice, easier to navigate...

I honestly think it looks damn amazing
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MIUI phone

Anyone see the new miui phone? Sounds like a beast. 1.5 ghz snapdragon, 4 gigs of rom and best part in my opinion is they said you can flash any rom you want. One down side for me is from the front it looks like a crappy iPhone.

it's not an Iphone and that is what matters to me.

popper668 said:
it's not an Iphone and that is what matters to me.
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Very true.
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Don't know why ppl always bashing the iPhone...for what it is it does it well..solid construction, great battery life, very good camera, tons more apps and games than android, sharp screen, and the best support (connectivity and accessories). Only downside to me is the small screen. If the iPhone 5 comes to sprint and with at least a 4 inch screen, I would trade my evo in a heartbeat. For a multimedia phone, it practically does everything well.

phistyle said:
Don't know why ppl always bashing the iPhone...for what it is it does it well..solid construction, great battery life, very good camera, tons more apps and games than android, sharp screen, and the best support (connectivity and accessories). Only downside to me is the small screen. If the iPhone 5 comes to sprint and with at least a 4 inch screen, I would trade my evo in a heartbeat. For a multimedia phone, it practically does everything well.
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Sorry man but a phone that needs a rubber band around it or a special grip to get a signal doesn't fall under good construction to me. And I also hate how Jobs uses old technology and claims its revolutionary with each build. I think I hate Jobs and all his douch fallowers more than the iPhone itself. Just my 2 cents though. To each his own
Edit: and you can't really say multimedia without flash player.....

IPhone is great but you can't do much with it unless jailbroken n even then apple continues to close all exploits soon after the devs jailbreak them,
Android Is way more superiour especially with all the wonderful devs we have here!!
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I did see the MIUI phone and I gotta say, it looks real intriguing.

nan239 said:
IPhone is great but you can't do much with it unless jailbroken n even then apple continues to close all exploits soon after the devs jailbreak them,
Android Is way more superiour especially with all the wonderful devs we have here!!
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now this is what we call a fanboy....what are things you can't do when it's not jailbroken? it's no difference than saying you can't do much on android unless it's rooted. I have owned many different phones and brands through-out the 11 years I've owned a cell phone and am not biased towards any OS or manufacturer. I give props where props are due and even though I hate the people that use Apple products and worship the ground steve jobs walk on, I'd admit their iphone in many aspects are better than my evo. I already stated the positives earlier in this thread so I'm not going to repeat it again.

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now this is what we call a fanboy....what are things you can't do when it's not jailbroken? it's no difference than saying you can't do much on android unless it's rooted. I have owned many different phones and brands through-out the 11 years I've owned a cell phone and am not biased towards any OS or manufacturer. I give props where props are due and even though I hate the people that use Apple products and worship the ground steve jobs walk on, I'd admit their iphone in many aspects are better than my evo. I already stated the positives earlier in this thread so I'm not going to repeat it again.
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The problem with iPhone is iOS. Even after a JB the possibilites are far less than a stock unrooted Android. The reason most people root Android is not to enable certain things they were locked out of, but to run (and experiment with) custom roms.
Out of the box you can do tons with Android, like changing keyboards, launchers, photo galleries, handlers for sending files, widgets and tons more, that would never be possible on iOS.
iPhone + iOS is a synergistic combo that's very well designed, great usability, battery life and exceptional support from app developers and 3rd party accesories. But it is not a platform for people who like to customize their devices or need more control, and those limitations are not going away anytime soon.

Does every topic on these forums have to turn into flame fests about the iPhone or Sprints network or just general trolling?
Damn dude.

ECrispy said:
The problem with iPhone is iOS. Even after a JB the possibilites are far less than a stock unrooted Android. The reason most people root Android is not to enable certain things they were locked out of, but to run (and experiment with) custom roms.
Out of the box you can do tons with Android, like changing keyboards, launchers, photo galleries, handlers for sending files, widgets and tons more, that would never be possible on iOS.
iPhone + iOS is a synergistic combo that's very well designed, great usability, battery life and exceptional support from app developers and 3rd party accesories. But it is not a platform for people who like to customize their devices or need more control, and those limitations are not going away anytime soon.
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And another thing too is the companies that have Iphone, I was a former T Mobile customer, started with them with my first Android phone and as soon as they posted that AT&T was taking control I switched to Sprint.

mattykinsx said:
Does every topic on these forums have to turn into flame fests about the iPhone or Sprints network or just general trolling?
Damn dude.
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Innndeeeeed
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Crazy how I stopped to read this thread about the miui phone as stated in the title and only 3 posts are about it and the rest being about the iPhone lol
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Miui phone. Ftw!!!
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So where is the info? Is this going to be on Chinese carriers only? Links? Release date?

Xiaomi M1
here's the link from official page:
www . xiaomi . com / features . html
if you're using Chrome, you're able to translate to English (or your default language).
the phone will be on pre-sales end of August, with delivery in October.
the only thing I wonder, if its going to have a front camera?! if yes, M1 is definitely my next phone!

costisanu said:
here's the link from official page:
www . xiaomi . com / features . html
if you're using Chrome, you're able to translate to English (or your default language).
the phone will be on pre-sales end of August, with delivery in October.
the only thing I wonder, if its going to have a front camera?! if yes, M1 is definitely my next phone!
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ANd for people that just want to click on the link: http://www.xiaomi.com/features.html

were to buy
anybody know were/how to buy this phone?
anybody own one?

Just incase you were thinking of going back to an Iphone

Try this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.suckga.iLauncherLite&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5zdWNrZ2EuaUxhdW5jaGVyTGl0ZSJd
A Brilliant simulation launcher exactly like the Iphones UI....Boring as hell
Well done to the developer for creating such an accurate launcher

if you want iPhone's UI, I think you'd better get an iPhone.
I just hate this "memory game" UI

Sorry just me being sarcastic...
Basically to explain my post, the UI is boring as hell, why on earth would you want to get an Iphone

If you like this you could also try Espier launcher (free on market)!

Aah got bored just watching it
Once ICS is here I guess cant be bothered with all this launchers.....

Cool thanks guys seriously today i was really in a mood of ios n installed MIUI and with these launchers my dream is true

tfn said:
Aah got bored just watching it
Once ICS is here I guess cant be bothered with all this launchers.....
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True

and people would think that you own an iphone 5

Gorjess said:
and people would think that you own an iphone 5
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The only problem there would be the word Samsung written above the screen

UAU!
It's a pity that looks like iOS 3.0 huahuahuahuahua

rafael000 said:
if you want iPhone's UI, I think you'd better get an iPhone.
I just hate this "memory game" UI
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True Dat, True Dat.
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i dont really get people that want their android phone to look like iphone. Apart from in my personal opinion android looks better the obvious answer is if you want to look like iphone buy a damn iphone.
(same thing with people whinging they want the GS2 to look like HTC sense but thats another can of worms)

I wasn't and never would but thanks for sharing.
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Useless thread. Just another iphone bashing thread.
Will be probably closed soon.
If people want an iphone, or iphone UI let them....
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mccune said:
Useless thread. Just another iphone bashing thread.
Will be probably closed soon.
If people want an iphone, or iphone UI let them....
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I wholeheartedly agree

i had an iphone before my samsung galaxy s2 !
but i have to say, that iphone is boring now, because the style is always the same ! this was the reason why i bought the samsung galaxy! When you look at the new Iphone 4s you'll see no new style, only the inside life is new, but design is an important point for me !

I'm back to 4S and happy.
Tired of cheapness of os and non-stop glitches and bugs.
Let the flaming commence.

lynzoid said:
I'm back to 4S and happy.
Tired of cheapness of os and non-stop glitches and bugs.
Let the flaming commence.
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No flaming. Just pity.
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lynzoid said:
I'm back to 4S and happy.
Tired of cheapness of os and non-stop glitches and bugs.
Let the flaming commence.
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Its about preference.. But theres no point to post it here..
I was expecting someone to post how to port ios to android device instead
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