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Hey guys ill be joining this side of the forums now on monday and I'm really excited. Just I'm kinda confused about a few things and I was wondering if anyone could help enlighten a few things for me.
I know what Root is, S-off, Cid yada yada and I'm not new to rooting at all. I have adb and etc and I kinda want to do this on ubuntu because my vista is kind of janky at times.
Now apparently there is Temporary Root and Permanent Root and of course I want Permanent root, s-off, etc.
1.Now from what I read there has been apparently an update that updated the G2 to 1.22 or something like that? I read its rootable apparently but you need a windows application called gfree or something? Is this possible to do using just ubuntu?
2. Now to obtain root, s-off etc do I have to obtain temporary root first, then permanent root? Its kinda confusing coming in a noob to this device and trying to figure this all out. And do the methods vary with which firmwire your phone comes with? I'm assuming mines will come with the newest OTA since I'm receiving it Monday.
3. Also from what I'm seeing apparently having S-off and root and what not matters on what rom your running also? I don't want to flash a rom then end up loosing root or something. And Noo I DO NOT want to stay stock once I obtain root. I'm kind of a flashoholic.
Thanks to anyone willing to help I really appreciate it.
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gfree is a program rum on your phone... it "sets you 'G'2 free"... but i had a lot of problems getting gfree to work with the new g2 i got in the mail... check out my post on cyanogen... this is how i got root and latest radio img's... its under forums and htc desire z / g2... how to fix a bricked g2 and root a g2 another way...
Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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GhostZini said:
Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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Link to it?
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Link to it?
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Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.
Check out the wiki, explains how to root using rage+gfree.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
I followed these instructions and rooted my phone fairly easily.
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Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.
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First of all follow the link I gave him, did you bother to do that, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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First of all read the entire link I gave him, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.
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You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.
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I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.
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Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.
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When I get home i'll find the links for you, and you know I got to hand it to you, at least you do research and learn before you even got your phone, I wish more people would take the same approach as you.
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Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Well I'm doing research on it as well. thanks you guys for your resposes. I love this community people actually attempt to help. Trust guys I did my research and all that so I'm not a noob. Just a noob to this device that's all.
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david279 said:
Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
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hey david279, which radio(bandbase) did you have on your new G2 when you rooted with GFree?
Hmm just to make shure. I obtain root first, then use that gfree app on my rooted vision to get sim unlock, s-off etc?
Never mind just read it. This is actually really simple. *facepalm* sorry guys for the thread space ill get my topic removed.
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Thanks, just confirming that 26.03.02.26 was still rootable with the wiki root instructions, there seems to be some confusion about if you can still root the 26.03.02.26 radio with the wiki, and you just confirmed that you still can.
Thanks Again, and happy flashing.
Rooting this phone reminded me of when I had a hero. That simple. I got a evo too and that was something to root when it first was released.
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I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Exactly the info I was looking for I will be rooting later today.
I have a vibrant and my buddy has a mytouch 3g and he wants CM. My question is, is there a one click root method like with the vibrant? I looked at the stickys and they only talk about adb, which is cool, cept we aren't near a computer. So yeah, thanks for any info.
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....my buddy has a mytouch 3g...
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This may be the wrong set of subforums, then.
Assuming you mean the Mytouch 4G, not 3G, there are several methods for rooting, not all require adb. One such method is called "Visionary" -- detailed instructions can be found at theunlockr.com.
wow yeah thanks
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There is one click root for both 3g and 4g
2.15 radio
2.2miui stock via cwm
Being that i have an older MyTouch and my Dad has one, i will tell you this. IF you/your buddy has downloaded and installed the 2.2 OTA update you MUST downgrade to 1.6 prior to rooting the phone.
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-1-2-fender-mytouch-how-tos/
(^^^ Give you are using the 1.2 Version of the MyTouch3G)
Once it is downgraded look for and install Universal Nandroot, download install root and do your cyanogen thing.
Ive rooted 3 phones before the one i am doing now. I am useing the same files, visonary, and this phone will not allow temp root. i did a full factory reset and still not allowing. what could be making this happen??? Thanks sorry wont let me post in development section
the bad eMMC chip....visionary (root.sh) only works with the good chips, while gfree method is used for both the good and bad chips. give the gfree method a try if youre having problems http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
also look here first to see if you have the bad chip or not http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
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the bad eMMC chip....visionary (root.sh) only works with the good chips, while gfree method is used for both the good and bad chips. give the gfree method a try if youre having problems http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
also look here first to see if you have the bad chip or not http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
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Keep in mind with a rooted phone and a bad eMMC, you are using a ticking time bomb. Keep in mind the phone will fail [brick], it might not be now, it might not be a week but it will happen.
That's not true... It will only fail if you don't know what you are doing and that could happen w a good chip too ... When u root via gfree, proceed to also flash the 85. 2007 ENG bootloader
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That's not true... It will only fail if you don't know what you are doing and that could happen w a good chip too ... When u root via gfree, proceed to also flash the 85. 2007 ENG bootloader
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There are well educated, when it comes to Android, people all over the Internets when it comes to this phone going FUBAR due to a faulty eMMC chipset.
If the chip set is bad it's a ticking timebomb.
That's an opinion that anyone is entitled to but I am speaking purely based on personal experience... I have rooted many phones with both good and bad chips, none of which have ever had in any problems... And based on actual results the phone with a "bad" eMMC chip holds max overclock much better and easier than my phone with a good chip... I was one who went back to stock on the bad chip without flashing stock radio and everyone said it was the end of the world and it would never have s off again... However after editing the misc. Img in mmcblk0p17 with hex editor I now have s off... So it just depends on who's flashing the phone
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I was using the gfree method to root the phone the problem is trying to get temp root it stayed on the visonary screen, trying to temp root and stayed that way over night, never was able to temp root to even get started. i tried visonary + and ver. 11 also. so not sure were to go from here
Use visionary 14. Check only the second and third boxes then click temproot. Run commands through Android terminal emulator.
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Use visionary 14. Check only the second and third boxes then click temproot. Run commands through Android terminal emulator.
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tried that. same thing. oh well should i send the phone in for a "warrenty" problem and get a new one ????
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Use visionary 14. Check only the second and third boxes then click temproot. Run commands through Android terminal emulator.
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tried that. same thing. oh well should i send the phone in for a "warrenty" problem and get a new one ????
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Check this out, i would be willing to bet this will work. It sounds much more difficult than it actually is. Just follow the steps and it will be simple.. i downloaded HEX QL editor which is free and super easy to use.... the version number that u need to edit is on the furthest right side (misc.img). The directions below are easy to follow and worked for me to get s off and root when it seemed impossible. Long story short, you will pull the misc.img to your sdcard and then plug phone into computer and open the misc.img on sdcard using the hex editor. Change the version number and save that file as miscnew.img and place on sdcard. Important to remember that the version you will be flashing is unable to obtain root however gfree and visionary will still carry out the proper root process you just wont notice permroot until a custom rom is flashed....i realized this after running the gfree process at least 8 times lmao . Ask any questions u have that are unclear from this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-832642.html
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Check the bootloaders, if its the .85 use Visonary method and if its .86 the gfree method will work.
forget visionary r14 and go with r11 that version will work 100%
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none of the visonary versions work at all. not sure what to do.
Most probably you have Gingerbread on your MT4G, or you're talking about Panache, and forgot to mention those facts.
Please go and check Android OS version in Settings/About.
I have a mytouch 4g running android version 2.3.4 and htc sense 2.1. I tried visionary and also the alternative rooting method in the rooting thread. Neither worked. Can I still root?
Try SuperOneClick or even a rooting app such as z4root/gingerbreak. i don't know personally if there's a specific rooting method for the MyTouch.
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Try SuperOneClick or even a rooting app such as z4root/gingerbreak. i don't know personally if there's a specific rooting method for the MyTouch.
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why would you post if you don't know the way? yes you can op, and read the stickies
--sent from my glacier.
Yes, OP, your device is super-special, all other MT4Gs are rootable and yours isn't.
Or maybe read the rooting guide in Glacier Wiki, section Root, subsection Gingerbread.
Or open Google, type "MyTouch 4G 2.3.4 root", open the first video link, and read the remark under it.
Or take a look 10 posts below yours:
Cant perm root Mytouch 4G please help before you move my thread
Some elementary things to do before opening yet another thread.
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why would you post if you don't know the way? yes you can op, and read the stickies
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I only suggested ways i do know. I thought the MyTouch was fine to be rooted through that method.
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I only suggested ways i do know. I thought the MyTouch was fine to be rooted through that method.
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The thing is, all methods you threw out there do not work with gingerbread. Actually, they dont work at all. Not even for froyo.
Its just messed up for other people when they **** their phone up because someone else that knew nothing, gave them wrong info.
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The thing is, all methods you threw out there do not work with gingerbread. Actually, they dont work at all. Not even for froyo.
Its just messed up for other people when they **** their phone up because someone else that knew nothing, gave them wrong info.
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Some of those methods do work for gingerbread however not for the MT4G for the rooting method for your phone refer to the stickie in the MT4G Q & A section or here http://forums.androidcentral.com/my...cks/56011-guide-how-root-your-mytouch-4g.html
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Use the wiki in the Cyanogen website on how to root your device best way is thru adb instead of any of them one click apps.
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Pro tip: Use a thing called google.
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Some of those methods do work for gingerbread however not for the MT4G for the rooting method for your phone refer to the stickie in the MT4G Q & A section or here http://forums.androidcentral.com/my...cks/56011-guide-how-root-your-mytouch-4g.html
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exactly. That's why we're in the mytouch 4g forum. Which is where my post applies.
Hello, yes, first post!
I am trying to root HTC Mytouch 4G.
I have adb and fastboot and am working through Mac OS terminal. That has worked great!
I was using this guide for gfree tem root and gfree perm root. http://simply-android.com/discussion/960/guide-how-to-permroot-g2-with-g-free-safest-method/p1 - originally starting here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228, but wanting to use Gfree instead of vision for the permanent root part.
I pushed all the Gfree temp files to the sd card (su, superuser.apk etc) and ran the Terminal Emulator prompts to attain temporary root. I got the desired "forked #### childs" message - but when I reset term, the terminal just went to a blank terminal window - the guide says that Terminal will exit. Finally, after I pressed some keys it force closed. After that I could not re open Terminal Emulator at all. The system also seemed bogged down at this point, everything was lagging until I rebooted. Obviously I was unable to continue with the Gfree perm prompts - never having gotten a root prompt in Terminal Emulator, as I could not get it to reopen.
I retried this after several reboots (maybe 10 times). I always got through the "rage" prompts just fine to the "forked #### childs" message.
I hope that someone may know what is wrong with Terminal Emulator or why it would not reset and give me the root "#"prompt to continue with permanent root.
Thanks in advance - trying to get 10 posts to ask the actual developer - but even then the thread is 3 years old.
If you're rooting a mt4g why are you following guides to root a g2? You probably want to try a mt4g guide instead...
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Upncoming,
First off thanks for answering.
Second, I understood that you could root the my4g with the g2 instructions.
Finally, I could not try VISIONary because the link does not have a file anylonger.
Do you know a sure fire mytouch 4g method? The phone is sim unlock and s=on. I have the ota update to gingerbread and would like to root from there without reverting to Froyo, if possible.
Thank you in advance
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Ooh wow... Ok. For starters, you're going to have to downgrade. Here are some helpful links for you.
Visionary: http://www.modaco.com/topic/330718-visionary-download-link/ it's at the bottom of the thread.
Downgrade guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Root with gfree: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Wish I could help more, but I'm heading out the door. Good luck!
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To Root your HTC Glacier, Just use this tool.
HTC Quick Root v1.1.13 - ROOT ANY HTC!
That worked flawlessly for me, when nothing else would. I was having the same problems with Terminal and all.
Thank you. I'm aware of these steps. The problem is that visionary 14 didn't exist there anymore . Did you try to download it?
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Cool, but is this the 'rooter' tool that has messed up many phones?
There is an article that starts this is pretty much unsupported .
And do you know if it requires going back to Froyo or 2.2.1 from 2.3?
Thanks very much for your reply.
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Cool, but is this the 'rooter' tool that has messed up many phones?
There is an article that starts this is pretty much unsupported .
And do you know if it requires going back to Froyo or 2.2.1 from 2.3?
Thanks very much for your reply.
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The visionary method works of you just typed visionary.apk into Google you would get it........but if you have a bad emmc when it reaches the part to get s off root.sh won't work if u follow the guide on the unlockr.com u will be ok. You would just need to get visionary from else where and when it reaches the part to get permroot and u have to use the terminal instead of the instructions in the guud go down to the comments and get the file that the guy said worked for him and follow those instructions and u will get s off at which point you may go back to the unlocked to continue to get a custom recovery and ROM.............if your phone starts behaving strange beware the bad emmc chips and take precautions right away
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I know that this mytouch has the emmc that is considered to be bad. Should I forget about rooting all together?
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I know that this mytouch has the emmc that is considered to be bad. Should I forget about rooting all together?
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Your choice. I have the bad emmc and im a massive flasher. nothing wrong yet
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N_otori0us_ said:
Your choice. I have the bad emmc and im a massive flasher. nothing wrong yet
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Take my advice and enjoy it while it lasts...... Even non modded ones go..... I also have the bad emmc
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Cool. I had seen some others who just go with it. This mt4g has been super stable, I really don't know what symptoms to look for with a failing chip.
I did just download holo and it runs well and feels modified, much more usable than sense.
I guess I just want to mod so the annoying limitations are gone.
Thanks for the reassurance.
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upncoming said:
Ooh wow... Ok. For starters, you're going to have to downgrade. Here are some helpful links for you.
Visionary: http://www.modaco.com/topic/330718-visionary-download-link/ it's at the bottom of the thread.
Downgrade guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Root with gfree: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Wish I could help more, but I'm heading out the door. Good luck!
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Ps thanks. This link for visionary works . I'll try it when I have a few hours to tinker .
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Your choice. I have the bad emmc and im a massive flasher. nothing wrong yet
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Agreed. I too have this bad chip, and I have flashed several roms, kernels, and radios without a problem.
Please be advised, OP, you MUST downgrade to Froyo then root using the G-FREE. You are having the EXACT same problems I had when I first tried it a long time ago. Nothing else works, period. Trust me on this. It will save you hours of aggravation.
If you don't want to downgrade to Froyo then forget about it.
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Agreed. I too have this bad chip, and I have flashed several roms, kernels, and radios without a problem.
Please be advised, OP, you MUST downgrade to Froyo then root using the G-FREE. You are having the EXACT same problems I had when I first tried it a long time ago. Nothing else works, period. Trust me on this. It will save you hours of aggravation.
If you don't want to downgrade to Froyo then forget about it.
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Awesome, I appreciate it. I haven't addressed this because I've been playing with my phone and lost the ich to work on it. This is my wife's 4G and the more I use it the more I think it is a great phone -size, sleekness, screen and speed are all really nice. Too bad they don't start allowing people to add RAM to phones. (Unless it is possible and I just don't know it) That could keep older "cult" phones in play longer, much like Custom roms, but from a hardware standpoint. Anyway...
Ps - what roms have you had three best experience with for the mytouch?
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Awesome, I appreciate it. I haven't addressed this because I've been playing with my phone and lost the ich to work on it. This is my wife's 4G and the more I use it the more I think it is a great phone -size, sleekness, screen and speed are all really nice. Too bad they don't start allowing people to add RAM to phones. (Unless it is possible and I just don't know it) That could keep older "cult" phones in play longer, much like Custom roms, but from a hardware standpoint. Anyway...
Ps - what roms have you had three best experience with for the mytouch?
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I am currently on Dark Unicorn v2.5 and it's insane amazing. Minus the lack of 720p recording, it's bomb-diggity! :victory:
If I would have to pick a best experience, I would say Stock 2.3.4 because everything works. Ha ha
Others:
Android Revolution HD
CM7.2
Yeah Dark Unicorn, and Synthetic's AOSPX. Pac-man and venom touch have good tweaks for their rom though .
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Interesting. Do you get markedly better performance with dark unicorn, due to the deoxing and kernal?
Honestly, debloating is a big factor in why I root.
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