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Can the Admin please edit forum with restriction on which usergroups can post new topics in the dev threads, ie maybe Senior and above or people with over a certain amount of posts etc.
This would virtually stop all the questions/help etc going in the dev thread by the n00bs and also cut down on the work that mods have to do because im quite sure mods are sick of having to move 100's of topics a day in the forums (not just HD2).
Wouldn't the restriction make things much more clean and organised?
[edit] I Should have probably put this in the general forum lol (the irony)
I am a Global Moderator on our forum for FIAT automobiles (www.fiatisti.hr) and we have a restrictions for any people who not have 50 posts and do not right to write in some forums. This is a lower limit to create threads.
In this way we have a more lowest junk on forum. People doe`s not have to use search option on forum and think that is much easier way to ask some people to resolve our problem.
+1 good idea
Oh God please, this would be great. If people cant be bothered to read on their own here, I see no reason why anyone else should bother.
+2 that would be nice
TheATHEiST said:
Can the Admin please edit forum with restriction on which usergroups can post new topics in the dev threads, ie maybe Senior and above or people with over a certain amount of posts etc.
This would virtually stop all the questions/help etc going in the dev thread by the n00bs and also cut down on the work that mods have to do because im quite sure mods are sick of having to move 100's of topics a day in the forums (not just HD2).
Wouldn't the restriction make things much more clean and organised?
[edit] I Should have probably put this in the general forum lol (the irony)
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Sounds good to me, I hate having to read through useless post to get info on a new build.
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The problem with this is, people start spamming to reach the post count.
But +1 to the idea from me nonetheless.
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I do kind of see the point of this, but i became a senior member by posting in the dev forums.
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
Nice example
kam333 said:
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
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kam333 said:
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
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Important and helpful threads like that can be moved. At least lesser clutter.
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we an make an option if a juniour member wants to open an important thread to pm a moderator with it's topic
hoss_n2 said:
we an make an option if a juniour member wants to open an important thread to pm a moderator with it's topic
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That actually wont work, that would if anything overload all the mods with posts or PMs asking for this and that.
I too agree about the useless posts to get post counts up, But not to cause any rift at all, but im going to go against this as well like kam333 about post counts or even being a senior member, and the reason is upper level people are just as guilty of doing this as well. The only difference is they have the ability to move their posts after they have it seen. If you take this post for example:
Moved: [REQUEST]FULL Desire HD TMOUS Nand Build-NOT Squashed or Stripped Down-I WILL PAY $$
Originally Posted By: dharvey4651
This was posted on the NAND Development forum, to get attention, and then was moved by the poster (obviously a mod) to the HD2 Android General Discussion form.
Personally do I feel thats right too? No, That to me is abusing your power as a mod.
If anything, maybe limit junior members to only be allowed to post in the general forum of each section? Like General for HD2 winmo, and General for HD2 Android, this way it limits all the places they can post to ask the same questions.
Guys im not saying that restricting it to senior and above will cut everything out, Only that it will cut allot of it out, probably 90%.
If you check dev forums on regular basis you will know that 90% of the off-topic posts that get put in there and end up getting moved are from new members.
Restricting new members to not been able to post here will help a great deal, sure some retarded senior members or maybe by simple error will post in dev but it will be a hell of allot less off-topic then it is now.
There will also be a lot of new members not able to post when it's really correct for them to do so. The only correct answer is to ignore badly posted stuff and let mods do their job.
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AngelDeath said:
That actually wont work, that would if anything overload all the mods with posts or PMs asking for this and that.
I too agree about the useless posts to get post counts up, But not to cause any rift at all, but im going to go against this as well like kam333 about post counts or even being a senior member, and the reason is upper level people are just as guilty of doing this as well. The only difference is they have the ability to move their posts after they have it seen. If you take this post for example:
Moved: [REQUEST]FULL Desire HD TMOUS Nand Build-NOT Squashed or Stripped Down-I WILL PAY $$
Originally Posted By: dharvey4651
This was posted on the NAND Development forum, to get attention, and then was moved by the poster (obviously a mod) to the HD2 Android General Discussion form.
Personally do I feel thats right too? No, That to me is abusing your power as a mod
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I 100% completely agree with this. Not only do i feel that it is an abuse of position, but that the topic itself would get any ordinary non menber in trouble. It is so close to being over the "line" it is an open abuse of the rules that everyone else has to abide by. How can it be against the rules for a dev / chef to say "pay me for xxx and i will make it for you" but NOT against the rules to say "i will pay someone to make xxx" ?
I would report the thread but somehow i doubt anything would happen.
But back to the topic in hand, some sort of limitation of posting rights *is* required but i dont think it should be based on post count (take Cedesmith for example - less than 300 posts but a very active and intelligent developer), perhaps the more elegant solution is a time based limitation? eg, you are unable to post in development threads until you have been a registerd user, and you profile is set to the current device for say, 2 weeks ?
i think that the time restriction is more viable than the post count restriction for the simple reason you aren't going to get noobs signing up just to post the question if they have to wait 2 weeks. Where as if u put a post count restriction they will just spam to reach the count required
Ricey
johncmolyneux said:
There will also be a lot of new members not able to post when it's really correct for them to do so. The only correct answer is to ignore badly posted stuff and let mods do their job.
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Did you read the topic properly, this topic is regarding the dev threads not general stuff. If they are a new member then they have no reason to post in those threads and if they are a dev then can ask a mod or admin to maybe move them into a "dev" usergroup and that way they can post.
The whole point is that we shouldnt need to ignore badly posted stuff, the dev section is simply for posting dev stuff not n00b questions.
ricey1986 said:
i think that the time restriction is more viable than the post count restriction for the simple reason you aren't going to get noobs signing up just to post the question if they have to wait 2 weeks. Where as if u put a post count restriction they will just spam to reach the count required
Ricey
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I think you are missing point slightly, Once a n00b tries posting in there and gets a message about not been allowed because its a dev forum, they are not going to purposely spam other forums just so they can post in there.
Its about restricting n00bs from accidentally posting in there because they didnt bother to read forum titles.
by the time somebody has a certain post count or has been registered member for a amount of time its less likely for them to post in a n00b question/topic in the dev thread.
I dont know, so I have to ask the question, Is there the ability to stop a noob from posting in the dev forum, but allow him to reply? One reason I ask this, is if the answer is no they wont be able to reply either, then the course of action is unjust, because if there is any bugs in a build they cant reply to the thread, if they can, then that might be an alternative, but here is another twist, as well all know post counts can go up very quickly, hence just replying "Thanks" or "I'm going to try this" counts too (Just used for examples).
But I think personally there should be another level now that I just thought of it, Like we have Senior member status, there should be a DEV status, and set the forum if possible that ONLY DEV's can post where others can reply, and if someone is a DEV they can easily PM a mod and the mod can change their status. Or if they want to contribute in the Dev forum like they made a kernel or rom, then that would constitue them to post in that forum.
You need to understand and look into vBulletin before you ask for changes to the forum. This is not going to happen.
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Just quorius.. but doesn't forum rules apply to all ??
I was just wondering, since I see some users posting in Development with less than 10 posts on there account.
When I try to post, I just get a notification that "you need to have 10 post to...."
I just don't get it, can someone please enlightent me ????
I think the rule applies to the new users that signed up, not the ones that signed up ages ago.
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Kevin, looks like it.
Im not *****ing and whining about it, just wonders me, and made me think that the statement should be changed, so instead of ...
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
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In my opinion its like saying, rules are for ALL except for those that don't need to follow them. And come on, its like 10 posts.
I've already seen some people here post so many posts stating the same about hboot 1.01 and root, and apparently just to get into dev to ask the developers the same questions. So where does that 10 post rule do any good ?
Well I'm already getting there to my 10th post so i can come with suggestions i dev. Cant wait, and yes I'm no kid, that might be the reason that i havent spammed this fora with questions about rooting
See you i Dev soon.
whats with new members not allowed to post in the development area..
u get to know everything there is to know by reading previous posts.. and after that if u have a problem or want to help, u cannot post on the development page..
n it'll only spam the general forum.. making it difficult for others..
this is just a precaution to eliminate pointless and idiotic questions on the forum
if u go through the general forum to get ten posts u will have a good understanding of the phone
sheron said:
this is just a precaution to eliminate pointless and idiotic questions on the forum
if u go through the general forum to get ten posts u will have a good understanding of the phone
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Nicely put.
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sheron said:
this is just a precaution to eliminate pointless and idiotic questions on the forum
if u go through the general forum to get ten posts u will have a good understanding of the phone
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nice idea, but if I look through some posts in development Thread, I think it don't work. There are many spam too.
And people like me, have to search where we can write something meaningful.
Normally I wouldn't something reply to such a thread...but I'm hunting my 10 posts.
XDA has already considered this topic, that is why we have the rule. If you want to know why, visit the site announcement from January.
BTW, this topic is not related to the Galaxy 3 device. In the future, topics such as these should be posted either in "Off Topic" or "About XDA Developers" section.
Apollodroid said:
whats with new members not allowed to post in the development area..
u get to know everything there is to know by reading previous posts.. and after that if u have a problem or want to help, u cannot post on the development page..
n it'll only spam the general forum.. making it difficult for others..
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i totally agree with you , it bugs me alot to..
i think that it's annoying, but it's totally necessary, i mean.. i prefer to "collect" my 10 posts, and not see crapy threads.
well done xda
This rule annoys me too.
But remember..... uncontrolled freedom ruins the very own essence of itself. Better thought rules are always good for the privileges of freedom earners.
Please note: I don't hate anyone, neither do i love anyone... but i do like everyone
Rules of development section are very clear : ' if you didnt create it , then it doesnt belong in the development section .
They are to many clones of my rom / mods right now, what my team asks of other devs right now is if they want they can create mods/theme based of our work not a complete rom we will be glad to post links to these theme/mods in the OP of our rom thread .
I have already pmed some devs and will keep doing it , I am hoping some Mods will acknowledge this thread without the need for me to pm them and report the rom chefs still using our files posting it as there rom .
If you guys out there make mods on your own , we/ I am and always have been happy to be of some assistance to help you make the mods yourself , but using my EXACT ROM FILE then calling it your rom has lasted long enough
Our intention here is not to shut down anyone , we encourage variety , and its great thing for the end user to have more choices , but the truth is if you use our files and throw in a few apk and a few *.pngs its not a rom its a theme or a mod at best and it should be posted in the appropriate section that section is called themes and apps .
We have come to this conclusion as this will help clean up the dev section. and help the end user to know what they are flashing .
keep on whining and you will get 5 points for trolling and then a 2 week ban very soon following
what you are rambling about is essence of xda developeers forums and you will not win that fight
what you can do is to create own www and take your users there keepin support on forums like xda and so on but you will not win fight with the copy paste developers on xda that again is essence of this place
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rom section would need some evaluation or WORKING rating systems as stars are not doin the jazz
but only comment i get from top dogs of xda is we are working or it so casual pisof dont ask
$omator said:
keep on whining and you will get 5 points for trolling and then a 2 week ban very soon following
what you are rambling about is essence of xda developeers forums and you will not win that fight
what you can do is to create own www and take your users there keepin support on forums like xda and so on but you will not win fight with the copy paste developers on xda that again is essence of this place
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rom section would need some evaluation or WORKING rating systems as stars are not doin the jazz
but only comment i get from top dogs of xda is we are working or it so casual pisof dont ask
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lmao fun reading but your plain wrong read the xda rules some rom threads have been shut down right here in the i9000 section (not by me) there is a difference between copying the mods of others or using there source .
but downloading there roms, adding a few png /swap a few apk and calling it by another name that is simply NOT development its a Theme , it doesnt belong in Development section , simple asthat
fyi this is not whining its an anouncement that says I use to accept it now I dont simple as that .
FYI it is your right to state your opinion whenever it's right or wrong ;] ive made my statement and am done with you
Can you point out which roms have copied your files?? :-D
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FYI it is your right to state your opinion whenever it's right or wrong ;] ive made my statement and am done with you
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you are done with me ? lol ? yea I asked you to come in here and state your opinion , obviously your familiar with the rules *insert sarcasm*
thank you for being done with me, it will save both of us some time as I said read the rules about the work of others ( see bold text in first quote)
fyi accusing me of trolling, I make a valid thread about a subject that is not addressed to you at all Your post in here was absolutely useless and almost of topic ( see second quote down ) so please keep your word and refrain from posting here again , thank you .
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. .....
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
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and this one is just for you :
15. Keep posts/threads on-topic
Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.
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hassaan123 said:
Can you point out which roms have copied your files?? :-D
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no not pointing fingers that was not the intention, the intention is to put it outhere so that devs I havent pmed about this know how we feel about it
oftop: why do you like to use the FOR YOUR INFORMATION so much
you use it much in real life ? or what is the story behind it (you can pm me about that)
also please do not input statements i did not made mkay?
maybe calm down and read what i wrote but this time try to understand it ;] so such invasion would not happen next time you reply
anyways if you want to discuss more please use my pm
but it's the truth,sadly to mention that,but it is
When will I be able to post in the developer section I have some ideas and I have more than 10 posts so I don't know why I cant post there yet...... any ideas
"To unlock all capabilities of XDA, we ask that those of you with higher level skills make 10 helpful posts. If you are unable to help others, please post only relevant new questions or observations. Low quality posts will be deleted, especially when made simply to get to the 10 post threshold."
I'm not sure if that's the case, but could be the problem.
I think that is a smart requirement for a site like this.
It could also be the fact that you've already plagiarized other people's work.
Man, I get douche chills reading your posts.
Did you not just post in the dev section the other day? Maybe your behavior got those right's stripped.
Takenover83 said:
Did you not just post in the dev section the other day? Maybe your behavior got those right's stripped.
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Look at the date on the post this is old.