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url redirects and market stalling

I have a couple questions regarding some issues I've had so far with my G1. I've searched around and can't find anything relating to my problems but I hope I'm not the only one.
First issue is with url redirects. I've encountered this most often when I try to download podcasts using the browser. For example, when I try to download this TWiT podcast (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/aolradio.podcast.aol.com/twit/TWiT0169Ha.mp3) directly it always errors out saying, rather blandly, "download unsuccsessfull." My workaround for this has been going to yahoo or tinyurl and removing the podtrac.com part from the url and then saving the file from the new link. Although this works for redirected urls when I can edit them, hiden redirects like (http://media.libsyn.com/media/thefutureandyou/TFAY_2008_3_26.mp3) fail everytime. If there was a perfect podcast app on or off the marketplace I wouldn't mind. Yet so far there is none that meets my satisfaction. If this is a bug with my phone, I'll be happy to replace it... but it seems more likely that it's a bug in the browser itself.
My second issue is less time consuming yet still annoying. After using the phone for at least an hour (although sometimes less, if I've used many apps) the marketplace will stall when I attempt to download anything. It will sit at "starting downloading," usually for 10-20 minutes and then actually begin downloading. I've eliminated the possibility that the market is just randomly slow, since I can instantly solve this problem by rebooting the phone and re-opening the marketplace; upon which the download starts immediately.
Alright, that's my wall of text. I would really appreciate some help or direction since I do love this phone, despite it's quirks. Hell, I wrote this on my phone. Thanks for reading.

vhodh said:
I have a couple questions regarding some issues I've had so far with my G1. I've searched around and can't find anything relating to my problems but I hope I'm not the only one.
First issue is with url redirects. I've encountered this most often when I try to download podcasts using the browser. For example, when I try to download this TWiT podcast (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/aolradio.podcast.aol.com/twit/TWiT0169Ha.mp3) directly it always errors out saying, rather blandly, "download unsuccsessfull." My workaround for this has been going to yahoo or tinyurl and removing the podtrac.com part from the url and then saving the file from the new link. Although this works for redirected urls when I can edit them, hiden redirects like (http://media.libsyn.com/media/thefutureandyou/TFAY_2008_3_26.mp3) fail everytime. If there was a perfect podcast app on or off the marketplace I wouldn't mind. Yet so far there is none that meets my satisfaction. If this is a bug with my phone, I'll be happy to replace it... but it seems more likely that it's a bug in the browser itself.
My second issue is less time consuming yet still annoying. After using the phone for at least an hour (although sometimes less, if I've used many apps) the marketplace will stall when I attempt to download anything. It will sit at "starting downloading," usually for 10-20 minutes and then actually begin downloading. I've eliminated the possibility that the market is just randomly slow, since I can instantly solve this problem by rebooting the phone and re-opening the marketplace; upon which the download starts immediately.
Alright, that's my wall of text. I would really appreciate some help or direction since I do love this phone, despite it's quirks. Hell, I wrote this on my phone. Thanks for reading.
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Hi, need some basics... are you using TMo? Have you made and mods to the phone or are you on RC30? etc.
thx.
--M

demontefixo said:
Hi, need some basics... are you using TMo? Have you made and mods to the phone or are you on RC30? etc.
thx.
--M
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Thanks for the reply. I'm on T-Mobile using a stock ota rc30 (friend of mine didn't know what to do when he got the prompt and just upgraded >_<). Haven't messed with the phone in other ways, save for installing/removing apps on a daily basis. I am patiently waiting for a root solution for rc30, but for now I just want to remove these bugs.
One other question I'd like to throw in: any way of clearing the marketplace cache without root? I'm assuming no, but 14MB is too much and I know it's only gonna get bigger. I hope google is not just sitting around on this and sd app storage. Maybe they're waiting till January. Seems like there are one too many features they "forgot" too include.
Again, thanks for the reply.

vhodh said:
and sd app storage
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SD app storage is tricky, and despite all the kids whining, it was disabled on purpose and for good reason. Depending on how well applications are signed (IIRC they aren't, or use public keys that we could easily resign), allowing them to sit on the SD card would mean that people could crack them. Google wants to allow people to commercialise their applications, but if they were easily cracked (not even require a rooted phone), they really couldn't.

Android Apps for the Vogue Port

It was suggested that we start a thread specifically for the apps that run well on the Android port to the HTC Touch/Vogue. I personally own an (Sprint=CDMA) HTC Touch Diamond, but upon seeing the maturity level of Android running on the Touch, I immediately went to eBay and picked up the Touch handset...and I am glad I did. The only reason I boot back to winmo is for work calendar (Lotus), Skype (iSkoot kinda sucks), and Podcasts (hopefully we getting DoggCatcher soon).I've found that battery life with Togga on to be about 8-10 hours which I can live with it, but it's a pain to keep toggling if you really need to conserve (but it could be worse )I plan on posting more battery data soon, but need a few more days of collection. Hopefully we can find a more permanent way of managing the data connection with balance for battery life.
You can find many apps on http://slideme.org/, AndAppStore (both have phone clients - very market-like) and by searching ".apk" on 4shared.com
The apps I have found to run well on my CDMA with dzo/f00bar's (much respect) latest files:
-Scoreboard - I'm not that big of a sports fan, but this app is slick!
-aLastFM - Just got permission to post the link from the developer. Thanks Oleg!!
-Stocker - Simple but effective stock app, but no graphs. If someone could find a better one...
-Weather - Simple, but effective. Multiple Cities, current and forecast, with menu link to detailed outlook including radar from Undergroud Weather.
-AnyCut -Great for making shortcuts to just about any screen in the OS, especially useful for Battery and Sounds&Display
-TextEasy - for sending a text to multiple contacts, until someone can get a hold of ChomperSMS or K9SMS (K9Mail I have not gotten to work either, we need a better mail app, the native client doesn't even recognize URLS, wtf?!)
-OIFileManager - It's the only one I've tried, so can't comment on the others, but there are several out there. UPDATE: I tried out Astro and Glance. I liked Astro, but after a day it stopped working for me and gives me a force quit. I prefer Glance over OI FileManager, it's on 4shared I believe.
-OIFlashlight - amazing how handy this comes in
-OINewsReader - No frills RSS aggregator
-ShopSavvy - Did you say "We'll match any price"?...but be fast with your fingers, camera is not fine enough to capture the barcode
UPDATE:
I wanted to add SMS PopUp as another great app. You can find it along with a bunch of other APKs here. One of the G1 owners that grabbed all of the apps and is hosting them for download.
WANTED:
-DoggCatcher - for my daily podcast fix
-A true Skype client
-HEADPHONE SUPPORT!!
Please post replies with your own favorite apps that run well on this port (with links, please!)
Cheers!

Wow, no replies?!
I'm looking for SMS PopUp if anyone can post a link.
Cheers!

The Meebo app is well worth a look - look for it on 4shared.com. Lets you IM on just about any IM network (Yahoo, MSN, AIM etc). IMs appear in the notification bar while you are in any other program. Great stuff.

I believe im the only person hosting the meebo.apk at the moment.
Meebo Instant Messenger:
http://jonsingh.com/android/files/meebo.apk
I did recieve the "ok" from the meebo!
thanks
Jon

steve98 said:
The Meebo app is well worth a look - look for it on 4shared.com. Lets you IM on just about any IM network (Yahoo, MSN, AIM etc). IMs appear in the notification bar while you are in any other program. Great stuff.
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i installed and signed into my MSN account, however, just a white screen shows up. No list of contacts, etc. No menu options other than to add another account or sign off. Not exactly useful (at least this version). Is anyone using this successfully?
EDIT: I received a chat, and that gave me a buddy online, maybe no one on my list was signed on at the time I first checked.
Also, it doesnt remember your username and password, which is annoying because it randomly closed on me after tapping the notification in the bar during a chat session today. I'll keep looking for a better app or updated version.

Ideal2545 said:
I believe im the only person hosting the meebo.apk at the moment.
Meebo Instant Messenger:
http://jonsingh.com/android/files/meebo.apk
I did recieve the "ok" from the meebo!
thanks
Jon
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you might be the only one who got the 'ok' from meebo but as i said, it can be found on 4shared.com also.

What about an updated version of Shopsavvy. Mine keeps saying there is a new version, but of course we can't update off the marketplace.

I'm looking for the Locale application. Even though we don't have GPS running, Locale still alows profile switching based on time and days of the week, which would be useful for office vs. non-office settings. If someone could post this I would appreciate it!

how do i install apps i have them saved to the storage card i just dont know how to load them up, sorry if this is a dumb question

thoughtlesskyle said:
how do i install apps i have them saved to the storage card i just dont know how to load them up, sorry if this is a dumb question
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If they are in the AndroidApps folder then they should be installed already. I found that sometimes icons don't show up to launch the program, however. This is where AnyCut comes in handy. Use AnyCut to search in "Activities" to find your app. If you are not seeing it in this list then you may have to "manually" install the app. Open a file browser such as OI File Manager or Glance and navigate to your AndroidApps folder. Click on the .apk file and it should launch teh app installer.
Hope this helps.

Any word on aLastFM?

etx said:
Any word on aLastFM?
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See the update first post.

Scoreboard.apk
I am very interested in the Scoreboard app, I got it running fine, but the other day the game I added to my favorite never really gave me updates until the game was over by a few hours.
Isnt this application able to provide real-time results?
I am having more success simply by going to www.nhl.com :-S

Thanks for aLastFM!
I was looking around and found another 4shared user with a bunch of APK's!
http://www.4shared.com/dir/11234070/20e0c1f0/sharing.html

Someone in the main topic said something about an ebay app. What is it and is it any good? Is it secure? It'd be nice to have for me.
There's been a couple apps I liked that didn't fit our screen plus having to reinstall android files often I lose all my saved info so it doesn't work out for me. Sprint needs to hurry up with an HTC Android phone.

Maybe a stupid question, not sure... Why can't someone extract the android market application from the G1 to be used on other phones? Seems a bit odd of Google to limit the market to only a specific phone.

There is a discussion about the marketplace on the big long forum. The marketplace is not open source. They're talking about the commands and encryption and such for it. I'd think it's not open because they plan on having pay for apps but I could be wrong

G1 Central
This is a must have for any one with a Grand Central account- G1 Central
http://evancharlton.com/projects/g1central
Allows you to place calls and check voicemail for your GrandCentral account. Pretty much allows for unlimited free calling. Works great on my friends G1.
Still missing a few features.. like the ability to call contacts that are only in your GC account, but still very good.
Heres the problem.. it crashes when trying to dial out on the Vogue!!! Ahhh!
So close to beating the telecoms... If anyone knows anything about error codes or how to get this working, I might have a GrandCentral account invite...

megalewis said:
I am very interested in the Scoreboard app, I got it running fine, but the other day the game I added to my favorite never really gave me updates until the game was over by a few hours.
Isnt this application able to provide real-time results?
I am having more success simply by going to www.nhl.com :-S
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I noticed this also. i resolved by changing my time zone in settings. Only problem is that this then modifies your "synced" time with your carrier, it adjusts + or - according to your time zone, so you have to comensate...each time you boot. Not by any means an elegant solution, but if you need realtime scores this is the answer. Probably better off sticking with NHL.com

aven_soulgazer said:
Someone in the main topic said something about an ebay app. What is it and is it any good? Is it secure? It'd be nice to have for me.
There's been a couple apps I liked that didn't fit our screen plus having to reinstall android files often I lose all my saved info so it doesn't work out for me. Sprint needs to hurry up with an HTC Android phone.
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I tried the "Ebay.apk" from 4Shared, but it doesn't display properly. The tabs extend all the way to the bottom of the other screen which is a common problem for us vogue port users.

Largest Market Apps?

Hi,
I'm trying to see if "My Downloads" in the Market get reset when cache is cleared. I will try and do this by downloading some large apps.
Can anybody list some of the largest apps? It's pretty hopeless looking at them one by one!
Cheers

Steel and bonsai blast are farely large according to my deteriorating memory

Brain games and bonzai blast

My downloads
I don't think it will be resetted. One week ago I resettd my G1 to factory settings. When I enteres my Gmail adress to register the phone again, evrything went back. It is saved "in the cloud", it seems.
"My downloads" is a pain in the ... with all the apps you ever installed, even if you uninstalled them afterwards. And: there is no difference between installed apps that can be updated and uninstalled apps. I get crazy with 5 sorts of torch apps, I had installed. I decided to keep only one and when I browse the market to see, which updates are available, I don't remember, which one is still installed an which are uninstalled. Both say "free", when the is an update for the installed one.
It would be nice to be able to sort the apps not only after their name but after their status "installed", "updated" and "uninstalled".

That is my interpretation of the problem too. I have factory reset and it has not removed them. Beyond this some people *still* think they making the cache get so low it resets itself will do it though... I cannot see *how* if it is stored server side (Sufficiently that a "Factory" reset does not remove it [Hell, I should hope after a "Factory" reset there is NO personal info on the device... Certainly wasn't when I got mine new!)... None the less if people think it may work I've nothing to loose.
Shame is I've got all the apps above and (In any other situation good news) other apps are so small it'll take forever to install a sufficient number.
It seems in doing this I've probably made the matter worse as now my "My Downloads" list is huge :/
Any ideas how to clear the list OR very large apps appreciated.
Cheers.

LavaChild0809 said:
[Hell, I should hope after a "Factory" reset there is NO personal info on the device... Certainly wasn't when I got mine new!)...
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don't think so. All the information is tied to your google-account.
I guess if you register your account on another new device, you would have all the information on the new device. That'S the philosophy of android... have everything in the cloud... contacts, mails, calendar, app list.
On one hand it's good if you loose the device or have to factory reset. I still remember the time I was on Nokia and I had to restore my data after every change of phone or even Software update. On the other hand it's kind of critical in sense of misuse of personal data and ... the my downloads problem.

Admin: maybe the thread should be moved to this one???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468590

Please no not merge. I am the OP of both - The other is mainly about market issues. This is simply about large file size apps so that I can mess around and see if they do help with the issue in the other thread.
Both serve a different purpose even if there is overlap.
Meanwhile, I know for sure that the device doesn't carry the "My Downloads" over to another device - I had two faulty G1s before (1x screen issue and 1x charging issue). Both times I installed things and each device was not aware of what the other had. All, though, were aware of what they had installed on that device, even through a factory reset. I think maybe it is in the cloud but against some kind of device_id+gmail_account key? Not sure...

List of applications Google or something else has removed from phone

I noticed an app shortcut missing from the upper right of my home screen today. I called my GF with same phone and asked her what was in the upper right on hers (I set them up to be similar layout) and she had a blank but couldn't remember what it was either.
I know something was occupying that space and I thought it was useful enough not to move it to one of the side screens, but now I can't remember what it was.
It would sure be nice if there was a log of apps installed/removed that one could access after the fact.
I noticed after one of the updates that pandora went away, but I redownloaded it and it even kept my authentication. I removed slacker a while ago because it kept losing my login info.
I think a list of what we notice missing would be interesting, so please chime in (with missing items, not trolls)

dont have a App-Backup?

Google changed some of their package names. This will cause some icons to disappear, it doesn't necessarily mean it was removed entirely.

yeah u mite just need to add shortcuts again...

I still like the topic of the thread though. If OP could update the post with the apps removed and the reason stated it could be one of XDA's great reference threads.
Noname1 - Violation of terms and security issues
Noname2 - Violation of terms and security issues
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/06/exercising-our-remote-application.html
(no name stated)

That's what kills me, I don't remember.
I thought I would use it frequently so left it in a prominent position, but apparently they wiped my brain along with the app (or shortcut).
I have a stock phone. not rooted.
I haven't found a backup app or screen capture app that works with unrooted phone.

Should we guess what it was? My guess is google voice.

675 Trip said:
It would sure be nice if there was a log of apps installed/removed that one could access after the fact.
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This won't help now but one does exist, you just have to install it beforehand. There is an app called AppHistory which keeps a list of everything you have installed and removed. I don't backup my apps and have found that useful once or twice to remember an app that I uninstalled and want to try again or something.

[Q] Leftarmspinner gone

Hey!
There was this guy, Leftarmspinner, who had dozens of LGHome themes in Play Store.
Now I can't find him in Play Store. Anyone got any ideas why he disappeared? Or is my Play Store omitting some results?

Par0l said:
Hey!
There was this guy, Leftarmspinner, who had dozens of LGHome themes in Play Store.
Now I can't find him in Play Store. Anyone got any ideas why he disappeared? Or is my Play Store omitting some results?
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I don't know this 'leftarmspinner' guy but I quickly googled some info on his themes and they look a lit like this persons:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=jsvapps
Maybe taken down because they were exactly what this person has?
either that or he probably changed his name/ account?

Hah, indeed. His themes were just like jsvapps'.
Thanks!

Par0l said:
Hah, indeed. His themes were just like jsvapps'.
Thanks!
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No problem Probably was taking that poor guys apps and making money off of it!

Actually if you look those themes were released less than a week ago. I'm sure he just changed his name. He is on xda but I forget his name on here.

Guy's the Leftarmspinner Guy and The JSVapps Both are same accounts. This is what happened to other account.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!mydiscussions/wallet/Wc8f5r_weV0
Text from the link:
Dear Google developer account Admins,
Facts:
1. Recently Opened Another developer account (So I had 2 developer accounts)As i still do not know If its Ok to have 2 dev accounts or Not. I searched google + other forums and no luck before I opened my 2nd account. So I asked in one of the dev community on reddit and most of them seem it is Ok and some of them already have 2.
2. Why 2 accounts: As i make themes, One (Primary and first one) of account had themes for specific brand of phones and IT WILL NOT WORK on any other launcher than that phone. so I created a different account (2nd account) and created themes for Other famous launchers like Nova, Apex and adw etc etc. Please NOTE that Both the Accounts have different apps... Some of them icons may look like same but one apps doesn't work on other vice versa.
3. But why? Cos most of them looked same as they were themes many times users installed the themes on wrong devices and complained. So I thought of this "great idea" to create to different accounts and separate them and remove confusion. AGAIN BUT Screen Shots might look same but THEY ARE DIFFERENT apps for Different Launchers.
4. Previous offences: Few(about 4)of my themes were made for fans of some sports clubs... So I used the club names in my Theme description and name. So Suddenly one day I got 4 of my themes got suspended. (So i guess four strikes) In one shot. Atleast if they would given a warning or some sort of hint I would never have used their names or anything that sort. But anyway I thought lesson learned.
5. Then finally after everything was going smooth.. my user base was increasing, App sales were going up.. Everything looked like summer after dreadful winter. I Created 2 themes/ 2 apps with same Icons.. One for account 1 (For specific phone, Only works on that phone) and the other one Other launchers like Nova,Apex etc.
I got any email suspending that app on account 1. Saying that I'm spamming.. Generic Email with No details.. So I thought may be b'cos the Names look same (Even though they were different on everything except for 1 word in the name)So I changed the name and Upload again. THAT IS IT! My Complete developer account got suspended. All 19+ apps which were in good standing were gone in a second. Man I was devastated. I tried email the automated email (no reply one) and each time I get the same message (mostly automated) I just wanted to why and what triggered it.. so that I can remove those wording. Also I DID NOT REPEAT THE APPS NAME, NOR I DID NOT USE OTHER APP NAMES in my descriptions. If you see most of my reviews and ratings on that account was clean and people were happy. All MY FREE APPS Do NOT HAVE AD's or Collect Data. PURE FREE. I make a honest buck. all the previous offences were honest mistake As i did not know that I cannot user there club names in Description. And the final Straw had NO violation at all.
My Question: Is it against the developer rules to have 2 accounts? If yes please post if somewhere so that people can know.
2. I posted all my apps with different names on second account with different names. So users who bought them before can no longer download as they showup as new... IT IS NOT FAIR FOR THEM. I MADE FEW OF MY APPS FREE TO COMPENSATE for what has happened. Also Planning To make new themes and make free for the trouble I caused them whether it was my fault or Not. As I tried to refund many using pay-pal etc but unable to keep up with that.
Finally: I would really appreciate if you can re-open my account and Some human can look into this than a machine. I'M READY TO CLOSE MY SECOND ACCOUNT if that was the problem.
Thank you so much.
Leftarmspinner

Anyone got an update to this? I just re-formatted my device and a bunch of the themes I had purchased are now gone. I've gotten burned so many times on paid apps disappearing from the app store I'm starting to second guess spending my money there at all.