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I'm install alternate onscreen keyboard, but can't shut down defautl keyboard. It suppress alternate by priority in input methods list.
Only solution i can think of is to root your phone and get Startup Manager and turn it off in there, I did.
Just press and hold the textbox or writing area, there you change "input method" to swype or samsung keyboard.
If I understand it right, OP wants the chosen input method to stick, so that it do not go back to a different one during soft reset. I'm interested in the solution too. I do not want to remove the default stock keyboard though, as I still want it in some situation.
If I go to Settings, Locale and Text and tick the newly installed keyboard (in my case the Droid X keyboard), then press and hold in an input area and select Input Options and use the new keyboard it stays the default keyboard, even after a soft reset.
If I then change back to the default keyboard by pressing and holding in an input area and selecting the Samsung Keypad, THAT will then stay as the default keypad, even after a soft reset.
The same works for the HTC_IME.
So I fail to see what the problem is.
The main annoyance I have is that neither the Droid X nor HTC_IME have a navigational arrows keyboard like the stock keyboard does. WHY WHY WHY did Samsung not make that menu button an OPTICAL TRACKPAD? They managed it on the Omnia and other smartphones. Without this feature, despite my love of this phone, I am falling out of love with this handset.
leoni1980 said:
If I go to Settings, Locale and Text and tick the newly installed keyboard (in my case the Droid X keyboard), then press and hold in an input area and select Input Options and use the new keyboard it stays the default keyboard, even after a soft reset.
If I then change back to the default keyboard by pressing and holding in an input area and selecting the Samsung Keypad, THAT will then stay as the default keypad, even after a soft reset.
The same works for the HTC_IME.
So I fail to see what the problem is.
The main annoyance I have is that neither the Droid X nor HTC_IME have a navigational arrows keyboard like the stock keyboard does. WHY WHY WHY did Samsung not make that menu button an OPTICAL TRACKPAD? They managed it on the Omnia and other smartphones. Without this feature, despite my love of this phone, I am falling out of love with this handset.
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Hey, you're right! It does stick. My bad.
Wow, Droid X and HTC_IME must be so good, that you must find it so difficult to give up. I must try them.
I wouldn't bother with HTC iME if I were you: Droid X keyboard is head and shoulders above anything else out there as it uses multitouch to bolster its already rather solid prediction algorithms. for me it is as good as the iphone keyboard. I have REALLY tried to like Swype but still find it clunky in instances when I need to input numbers and letters or very specific words, and I cant swype a long word as quickly as i can tap out the first few letters of a long word and allow word prediction to finish it for me.
As for the default keyboard....well it has some nice features but I find myself getting terribly irritated by it when I really need it to work.
Hi Eaglesteve by the way. remember our many conversations in the HTC Advantage forums? I hope you've found a better device since then! it's amazing how things have moved on since then.
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I wouldn't bother with HTC iME if I were you: Droid X keyboard is head and shoulders above anything else out there as it uses multitouch to bolster its already rather solid prediction algorithms. for me it is as good as the iphone keyboard. I have REALLY tried to like Swype but still find it clunky in instances when I need to input numbers and letters or very specific words, and I cant swype a long word as quickly as i can tap out the first few letters of a long word and allow word prediction to finish it for me.
As for the default keyboard....well it has some nice features but I find myself getting terribly irritated by it when I really need it to work.
Hi Eaglesteve by the way. remember our many conversations in the HTC Advantage forums? I hope you've found a better device since then! it's amazing how things have moved on since then.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Leoni. Yes, iPhone keyboard is hard to beat. I'll give Droid X keyboard a go then.
Yes, those days on the HTC advantage forum is memorable for me, and I enjoyed the friendship and conversations with folks there. Yes, technology has really changed within a very short time, and I love it. Glad to be living in this generation. You're far more frequent phone changer than I have been, I noticed, almost never missing out on any device. I think as a result you're one of the most open minded and unbiased persons when making comparisons between them, and I enjoy reading your comments all the time.
Hey Leoni, after installing Droid X keyboard, it is not showing up when I go to setting, locale. When I click on the pass-dx2200 icon, I was given the choice of installing PandaHome2, which I did, although I hate the home screen now.
Is there a special procedure to follow before Droid X keyboard would appear on the setting for it to be ticked?
Enable the Samsung keyboard and disable swype and the android keyboard in the settings. Bring the keyboard up in a new message or something. Click the "gear" on the bottom right or the keyboard. Go to "Portrait keypad types" and select handwriting box 1 or 2. It's pretty neat.
Btw, with the Samsung keyboard (which is an iphone keyboard knockoff) on, the physical keyboard still misses key :-/
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Enable the Samsung keyboard and disable swype and the android keyboard in the settings. Bring the keyboard up in a new message or something. Click the "gear" on the bottom right or the keyboard. Go to "Portrait keypad types" and select handwriting box 1 or 2. It's pretty neat.
Btw, with the Samsung keyboard (which is an iphone keyboard knockoff) on, the physical keyboard still misses key :-/
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I only have the swype option
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I only have the swype option
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Since you're on the Tab I wouldn't expect it to have all of the same "features" as the Epic.
I forgot to mention I'm on DK28
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Hey thanks for the tip I will hit thanks next time I'm o. The computer I like that and the number pad keyboard to good for one hand texting something I missed from my Wm phones now android has everything my tp2 had and more and awesome
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That's really cool man. Thanks for sharing that.
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Knock off Graffiti from back in the Palm days lol.
Just FYI- you don't have to disable swype or android keyboard to establish handwriting on the Samsung keyboard. Meaning, you would still set handwriting in the Samsung keyboard settings, but you don't have to disable swype or android keyboard. You can switch among the keyboards by long pressing the input portion of your message. It will ask you for the input method, then you can select swype, android keyboard or samsung keyboard.
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Enable the Samsung keyboard and disable swype and the android keyboard in the settings. Bring the keyboard up in a new message or something. Click the "gear" on the bottom right or the keyboard. Go to "Portrait keypad types" and select handwriting box 1 or 2. It's pretty neat.
Btw, with the Samsung keyboard (which is an iphone keyboard knockoff) on, the physical keyboard still misses key :-/
Sent from my Epic P.O.S.
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BTW - I uninstalled Swype completely and I no longer miss keys on the keyboard unless it's of my own doing.
I did the whole "disable swype and stuff" thing, too, but it only lessened the problem and then, only temporarily it seemed. Uninstalled and *poof* it's working well now.
The physical keyboard auto correct settings do not seem to do anything. Is there any way to get them to work with the Asus keyboard? I fear my spelling isn't quite up to appearing on the internet unsupported.
Alternatively is there a keyboard I can install that works well with the physical keyboard? I am trying out ultra keyboard but it seems a little laggy and does not support the UK keyboard layout.
AFAIK there is no way to get correction off the dock's keyboard or a Bluetooth one. Unless perhaps a custom app is used as a layer between the keyboard dock and Android but I know of none. For software keyboards for the tablet end itself, it seems to be a pretty standard feature.
I generally turn it off, although I miss my Froyo phones ability to correct things like 'im ' to 'I\'m ' in the common case. Having a hardware keyboard available for serious typing helps. I also do most serious typing in vim, so I have spell check and access to dedicated tools .
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Hi All,
I've recently received my Nexus 7, and I'm very impressed with it. I do however have a nagging problem.
When typing a URL it's common to make a mistake, and when I do it's a complete pain to go back and edit. There doesn't seem to be any cursor keys on the standard keyboard. I know you can move a little cursor arrow about, but I have big sausage fingers, so this is painfully tricky.
I have also installed Swype, which I can switch to quickly from the standard keyboard, and it does have cursor keys. Unfortunately it also seems to fight with the standard dictionary and there is no quick single button way of swapping back to standard without going into settings.
So does anyone know how to get cursor keys on the standard keyboard?
I understand your pain, but there is no way to "get" arrows on the stock keyboard.
I'm sure someone could modify the stock keyboard, but what I usually do is tap on the URL.
This usually summons a BIG blue peg, which is a nice way of moving the cursor.
If not you can also try "SwiftKey 3 Keyboard" it has arrows, and is known for its self learning dictionary.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.touchtype.swiftkey.tablet.trial&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnRvdWNodHlwZS5zd2lmdGtleS50YWJsZXQudHJpYWwiXQ..
(Sorry can't link because I don't have 10 posts yet, but you can copy and past :laugh
If you do use Swiftkey download the phone version if you want arrow keys. When you install it will suggest that you use the tablet version - ignore it as for some reason you can't have the arrow keys in the tablet version. The option for arrow keys can be found under the Theme section of the settings.
Also,Ultra keyboard has arrow keys.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.binarybulge.android.apps.keyboard.full&hl=en
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If you do use Swiftkey download the phone version if you want arrow keys. When you install it will suggest that you use the tablet version - ignore it as for some reason you can't have the arrow keys in the tablet version. The option for arrow keys can be found under the Theme section of the settings.
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Actually you can have keyboard arrows in the tablet version of swiftkey 3, but unfortunately they are hidden. To get them you need to select "123" and then "{& =". Yeah, I know, slap forehead time!
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My Nexus 7 is almost always in my hand, surfing the web, researching articles, reading an ebook, or otherwise consuming content from the web. It is particularly useful for those purposes as I have detailed in the past. I am getting asked if the Nexus 7 would be useful for creating content with an external keyboard. My answer is absolutely not.
I have a reputation for using tablets in my work by using them with keyboards to write thousands of words. They are very good at that as my working history proves, but only to a point.
The Nexus 7 will never be good for writing as I do, even with a good external keyboard. That's due to one factor: size. While the 7-inch display makes the Nexus 7 perfect for a portable companion, it is too limiting for use as a laptop replacement.
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i had thumb keyboard from my previous galaxy note, so i just loaded that up on my nexus 7. its my favourite keyboard due the sheer level of customisability. it has arrow keys for your convenience as well.
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I use Hacker's keyboard and wouldn't be without its cursor keys.
Tom
There is no doubt that this keyboard is cool. However, I would like to recommend one more choice. The more choices, the better for us. It's an Aluminum Case with Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard for Google Nexus 7 which serves as a best partner for my Nexus 7 in many ways.It is sold at $39.99 only. Hope my recommendation helps.
So I have found the keyboard to be somewhat fraustrating. Not because it is virtual, but because of the software behind it.
First of all, it is rather strange that you cannot set more than one keybaord. Essentially, the device can have two keyboards that you might regularly swap between: the hardware keyboard and the one screen keyboard one might use while in tablet mode. The hardware keyboard uses the autocorrect of the keyboard you have set as your software keyboard. You cannot set seperate keyboard engines for the hardware and software keyboard.
As I said, the autocorrect/engine behind the hardware keyboard is dependant on your choice of software keybaord. However, as far as I can tell, only the defualt TouchPal keyboard provides any autocorrect for the hardware keybaord. The stock android keyboard offers no autocorrect with the hardware keyboard.
On a related note, TouchPal is awful. The autocorrect works pretty badly and is basically very annoying to use. I won't bore you with the details, but things like autocorrecting to a new word when you go back to edit a mistake. This makes it almost unusable.
Also the touch pad is very bad. No two funger scrolling means that again, it is pretty much useless.
I think the Yoga Book is a great device in most respects. Its intersting that all of these problems relate to the software and could potentially be fixed by Lenovo or there may even be fixes out there now.
Has anyone found any solutions to these problems? Thanks, Liam
I completely agree with you and am having the same frustration with the software behind the keyboard. So far the best solution I have found is to use SwiftKey or Swiftkey Beta (not sure which is best yet). With a bit of tweaking you can get decent auto complete and auto correct using both the halo and on screen keyboard. Much better than Touchpal at least. A couple of issues I have found using Swiftkey and halo keyboard: 1) auto complete seems to turn off when resuming from sleep mode (tapping the keyboard button on the top row reactivates it) 2) in WhatsApp Tablet app, after pressing Enter to send a message, the next message gets double words - I. E. Auto correct adds to what you type, doesn't replace it.
I can confirm that switching to SwiftKey makes the hardware keyboard usable! I'm actually using the keyboard to type this now. Naturally, I'm making tons of mistakes but it is catching and correcting almost all of them!
Can confirm that SwiftKey easily switches between physical keyboard and on-screen keyboard when the physical keyboard is toggled on and off.
If anyone is still using the default software keyboard, switch now!!!
Thanks for the tip! This makes a big difference! Have either of you found a way to get auto capitalise to work? The setting is enabled but it doesn't do anythig.
My issue with SwiftKey is that there is no good ways to select a suggested word. You always have to click with your finger on the screen which completely ruins ten finger typing for my.
So I ended up with disabled word correction as it's faster to remove some mistyped words and type again, than to click on the screen.
How do you handle suggestions made by SwiftKey?
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My issue with SwiftKey is that there is no good ways to select a suggested word. You always have to click with your finger on the screen which completely ruins ten finger typing for my.
So I ended up with disabled word correction as it's faster to remove some mistyped words and type again, than to click on the screen.
How do you handle suggestions made by SwiftKey?
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I have found that SwiftKey enters the main suggested word when I press space. This is good for most of the time, but annoying when:
-I want to select a suggestion that is not the main suggested word (particularly a new word that it doesn't recognise)
-I want to add punctuation directly after the main suggested word (here, because I input the punctuation rather than pressing space, the suggested word is not entered)
I have certainly found using SwiftKey to be the best experience. It's quite a passive autocorrect that doesn't get in the way too much. I got so sick of TouchPal which really gets in your face with its incorrect predictions.
But still there is a lot of room for improvement. It's such a shame that it's terrible software that lets down this keyboard. In particular I don't understand why:
- Some keyboards (like the Google Keyboard) don't offer any correction or prediction when enabled. Does Android maybe treat the Halo keyboard as an external keyboard (which I suppose you wouldn't want predictive features for)?
- Keyboards that do offer prediction don't seem to respond to changes to their settings (I can't get SwiftKey to auto capitalise the first letter of a sentence for example). @thespinner02 mentioned tweaking with SwiftKey settings- I assume they meant for the onscreen keyboard because these settings don't do anything for the Halo keybaord.
I wonder whether there is a keyboard out there in the Play Store that works better with the Yoga Book. I'll try a few and let you guys know if I find one.
I tried several solutions but couldn't find anything good. Hardware keyboards are not that common on Android platform, I guess.
Even using Swiftkey I sometimes get different results depending on the app being used. Auto capitalise is working OK for me, in Word for example.
There are specific options in Swiftkey for Physical Keyboard: in settings, Typing, Voice & Other Input. In Physical keyboard section I have Autocorrect and Auto capitalize on. Everything else off.
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Even using Swiftkey I sometimes get different results depending on the app being used. Auto capitalise is working OK for me, in Word for example.
There are specific options in Swiftkey for Physical Keyboard: in settings, Typing, Voice & Other Input. In Physical keyboard section I have Autocorrect and Auto capitalize on. Everything else off.
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Thanks! I didn't notice that- smart spacing etc makes a massive difference!
Pretty much my only problem with SwiftKey now is that it sometimes creates its own weird textbook instead of typing directly into the text field. But that's not a massive problem.
Also I sometimes accidentally change input method. Maybe I'm using a keyboard shortcut by mistake?
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Even using Swiftkey I sometimes get different results depending on the app being used. Auto capitalise is working OK for me, in Word for example.
There are specific options in Swiftkey for Physical Keyboard: in settings, Typing, Voice & Other Input. In Physical keyboard section I have Autocorrect and Auto capitalize on. Everything else off.
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In settings for hardware keyword I get no harder key found?
Went into Swift settings in onscreen. How to get settings for Halo?
With Yoga Book in laptop mode. Settings / Language & input / SwiftKey Keyboard / Typing / Voice & Other Input
You also need to make sure 'show input method' is not enabled in the keyboard settings/selector popup.
Does anyone else experience a problem with SwiftKey where in some text fields your text goes into a little popup text box at the bottom of the screen as well as the intended text field? And then to get rid of the popup text box you have to tap 'next'. This occurs in the Facebook messenger app for example.
Any way to disable it?
It seems to do this when the text field is small, but other keyboards just expend the text field as you type. The popup text box it creates doesn't expand anyway, so it doesn't offer extra functionality and is just an annoyance.