I wil have a SGS II soon, and I was wondering because it's not a HTC phone, will it have the same level of hacking/development as other popular HTc phones eg Sensation or Desire HD?
Essentially, will lots of developers put time & effort into a non-HTC platform? I ask because there does not seem to be that many custom ROMs for the SGS compared to other platforms, i would hate to see such an awesome piece hardware not being exploited to it's full potential.
Have a look in the dev and apps/themes forums, they're full of high caliber dev projects. It can only get better when more countries and more devs get their hands on the S2.
I think soon you'll be asking if htc phones receive the kind of dev support that galaxy s phones do.
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I think soon you'll be asking if htc phones receive the kind of dev support that galaxy s phones do.
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wow....nice reply dude......movve on
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I wil have a SGS II soon, and I was wondering because it's not a HTC phone, will it have the same level of hacking/development as other popular HTc phones eg Sensation or Desire HD?
Essentially, will lots of developers put time & effort into a non-HTC platform? I ask because there does not seem to be that many custom ROMs for the SGS compared to other platforms, i would hate to see such an awesome piece hardware not being exploited to it's full potential.
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Cool story bro...
Take a look in dev forum. Remember it's quality, not quantity... A themed "rom" isn't development. It is a nice theme. You tend to get more and better development when there are less "unzip, theme, zip, release" roms.
But to answer, yes there is plenty going on...
+10 we dont wont new builds every day .
Stable is the word with add on themes etc that the user can choose .
Plus FAQs in Braille .
jje
As has been stated, there are already great Roms available in the dev section. That being said, this phone is that good on stock that Roms enhance the user experience instead of fixing the holes created by the manufacturer.
Ha, I can't believe I was so scared to get the SGS2 vs a HTC. It takes a large dump from a great height on any HTC handset to date. Our sub-forum is literally heaving with development, while the HTC guys struggle with locked bootloaders Long live the Galaxy S II.
If you think there are few custom ROM's for the SGS2 you should look at the Xperia forums. I am moving from the X10 to SGS2 and even after lurking around in here for a couple of weeks I haven't seen all the devs have to offer.
The only thing I/We need is a good and stable release of MIUI and CM7 And ICS ofc
Yeah i remember the early days of development for the SGSII i could only see 2/3 ROM's the only ones i remember are Villian and Lite'ning ROM's both of which are still going strong although IMO they have been superseded by other ROM's but there are so many to choose from.
I think SGS II is currently the ONLY phone that has TWO (one Original and one is not) Android development sub-forums in order to handles the loads of development threads. Isn't that ironically tell you something?
If you want some numbers to compare (notes that's the GS2 International alone) :
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Galaxy S II Original Android Development
Threads: 241
Posts: 100,715
Galaxy S II Android Development
Threads: 79
Posts: 47,488
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Sensation Android Development
Threads: 192
Posts: 98,843
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I had my atrix since the release and i'm now starting to question if i should keep it. Right now i'm running 2.3.4 and the battery is horrible. I browse other phone forums and i see that they have multiple roms different roms with most multiple different developers and have made actual developments and the biggest development we have is barely functional. It seems that most of the developments on the atrix are theme wise from the same devs, no disrespect to devs working on the atrix because i know they have worked hard. And i heard rumors that the atrix community doesn't have much developers to begin with, so the question is should i move on to a different phone?
you need to hold your horses buddy.
a phone has been donated to CM team.work should start soon.
check out the Atrix section on rootzwiki forum, AOSP is being built.
we have CWM - check the dev section
we just got an over clock - check the dev thread
Please do not ask for ETA's.
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I had my atrix since the release and i'm now starting to question if i should keep it. Right now i'm running 2.3.4 and the battery is horrible. I browse other phone forums and i see that they have multiple roms different roms with most multiple different developers and have made actual developments and the biggest development we have is barely functional. It seems that most of the developments on the atrix are theme wise from the same devs, no disrespect to devs working on the atrix because i know they have worked hard. And i heard rumors that the atrix community doesn't have much developers to begin with, so the question is should i move on to a different phone?
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We had a locked bootloader until very recently. This is why there aren't many ROMs yet. Gingerbread is set for a July (hopefully) release. With the Gingerbread kernel source, ROM developers will have a lot more to work with. At the moment, there's only 1.2.6 (old 2.2.1 Froyo) source available.
Be patient! Of course, if you're loaded with cash, you can go buy additional/replacement phones. For now, the Atrix is arguably the best piece of hardware on AT&T's network.
Also we only saw the bootloader being unlocked recently...
My atrix bores me
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My atrix bores me
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your mom bores me
Well to be straight on point i dont think we even have as mush as development as the previous Galaxy S1 . Just look at their android development thread and on the first page itself you can find 3 ICS roms . Two of them usable for daily driver , one is CM9 which is still buggy (So is ours ), I mean to say that we are dependent only on the CM9 team for the ICS and we dont have anyother dev to do that for us .
Your views ?
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Well to be straight on point i dont think we even have as mush as development as the previous Galaxy S1 . Just look at their android development thread and on the first page itself you can find 3 ICS roms . Two of them usable for daily driver , one is CM9 which is still buggy (So is ours ), I mean to say that we are dependent only on the CM9 team for the ICS and we dont have anyother dev to do that for us .
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simple reasong
samsung galaxy s2 is a perfec phone with perfect firmware.
reason ppl coming here is to change the looks and play around with their perfect phone when there is nothing else to do.
the reason for no ics is because ICS is still buggy on its own so there is no point making roms untill google fixes the base.
If you desporately want more ICS development, then get developing.
If I had the brains to do, I would do. But I don't, so I can't.
Its pretty hard to develop anything without code. They work with what they have and if what they have is crappy, so yeah.
The SGS1 is similar (or almost exactly the same) as the Nexus S so since source is out for that they just took some stuff there and used it on the SGS1. Makes it much easier. We don't have a phone similar to ours that we can borrow bits and pieces from. They tried that with the Galaxy 7.0 Tab Plus but didn't work out so well.
Actually this is the first Smartphone where I don´t feel the need to change much. It´s already damn good.
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simple reasong
samsung galaxy s2 is a perfec phone with perfect firmware.
reason ppl coming here is to change the looks and play around with their perfect phone when there is nothing else to do.
the reason for no ics is because ICS is still buggy on its own so there is no point making roms untill google fixes the base.
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ICS is still buggy? I had daily drivers ics Roms on my nexus s backup in october!
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Same here best phone ive ever had so far, only things needed to change
where optical and removed the unneeded apps.
ICS seems nice once it's stable and bugfree untill then........
Not sure I would agree.
I am running the Simplistic ICS ROM RC3 as my daily driver. Everything is super smooth from my limited experience. Granted, these are based on Sammy leaks but it beats the deadlock I saw over on the RAZR forum.
Pretty happy overall.
Very happy with my current rom, so yes I am happy overall with development
Nothing really I would change. Even with ics out, I prefer the majority of stuff touchwiz has. Simple tweaking is pretty much it.
Common guys i think ur not getting me i mean to say that we have less developers
I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
I have to agree with the OP. Seeing as a galaxy s2 is such a popular phone u wuld expect more aosp roms for ics :L
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I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
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Damn and they got ICS so easily ?
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I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
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I tend to agree, the Original Galaxy is more established.
The trouble is, the S2 is sandwiched between the Galaxy S, and The upcoming S3. (Stuck between a rock and a hard place)
A lot of Devs and Users will no doubt be waiting to upgrade to the S3 upon launch, and maybe leave the S2 in the shadow somewhat.
Also unfortunately I would imagine a lot of Developers are staying away, considering some of the Flaming that happens on here.
We shall see. But Overall I'm more than satisfied with the Development.
Regards
Judging the level of development of a device just based on ICS is utterly stupid - did you look at all at the Gingerbread development that happened on this phone?
ICS for the original Galaxy S is a FLUKE. It's almost unheard of for an AOSP bringup to succeed on a higher version of Android than what is released for the phone due to lack of compatible binary blobs for vendor-proprietary parts.
The Galaxy S is lucky and VERY unusual - it has a high number of hardware similarities with the Nexus S, which is by its definition, a phone that has as many components open-sourced as possible. As a result, much of the Nexus S source code was adaptable to the Galaxy S as part of the CM7 bringup process.
The I9100 doesn't have this hardware commonality with a Nexus device. The RIL architecture and interfaces are completely different, the GPU is completely different, etc.
Exactly what I was going to mention. Usually porting or developing on phones is easier when someone else with similar hardware has done it before. You just borrow their work and adapt it. The Galaxy S2 doesn't share its hardware with many other phones. Hell, the whole Galaxy S2 line is super fragmented anyway! You have Tegra, omap, Exynos, different cameras, different specs alltogether.
If you just think of the international version... We're pretty much set apart and in the dark with all the proprietary code that the phone has. If you want a quick development path for your phone, you'll need a phone which has generic hardware or fully opensource code... Which is far from being this phone's case sadly.
Of course a lot of the SGS 1 roms where just cut and paste jobs .
Rom +Theme A then Rom + Theme B does not make two roms .
I am more than happy and the answer has always been you want more roms donate a phone to a dev instead of expecting them to pay for your flashing habit .
jje
It must have something to do with what can be achieved; with the exception of new releases from Google the only areas of interest really are storage space and speed. Both of which are pretty good as stock on the S2 where as development for the Desire was huge as it could be faster and, as stock, had a lack of storage space.
Even if you didn't like the look of TouchWiz you could choose a new launcher rather than rooting and flashing new ROMs.
if you want a regular updates and more development then maybe the phone for you is the galaxy nexus. pure google phone and a phone to get updates straight from the Google itself. I have not gone into the forums over there but i am pretty sure you have proper roms coming out through your ears...And i mean roms probably making that phone even better than it already is..and as being so new still the development for that can only get better...
The same for the S2. once the source code is released then you will see roms coming out and development will for sure will be on the high again and you see proper ICS roms coming left right and center...So be happy with what we have here and do more tweaking to get the max out of the phone instead of wondering if the development is slow or not..
I had an Arc for 1 month, I really liked it but I couldn't live without a variety of custom roms
I am now on Sensation and thinking about the Xperia S (sorry no proper section yet),this upcoming phone is totally awesome in both look and features, BUT I am afraid XDA devs will not be interested again...
Though I think the only way to make it sexy for them is that:
-Sony send a free device(s) to known devs team like CM,Virtuous,MIUI,Modaco...
If you have other ideas then throw them here
Sony gave Arc and Arc S to CM devs, so don't complain
Developement is harder on SE devices than on for example on HTC decices from what I've heard - that's the reason why we don't have that much devs
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Sony Ericsson always used quite a lot of special hardware, especially when it comes to camera sensors. It's always been a challenge for developers to get those to work on custom roms.
The problem in 2011 is that there was too much time between the hardware release and the availability of certain sources and the bootloader unlock.
If they make sure the Xperia S can be unlocked right away and the sources are available fast then we might get a lot of development going on.
Then again, Sony doesn't care that much, the vast majority of users doesn't even root, so they focus mainly on the stock ROMs. And they are the best of all stock ROMs. By far. And the default software on the 2012 looks to be extremely good and complete.
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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Imo, they totally do.
You could check this e.g.
IMO SE has tried all hard to support XDA in terms of development let's hope under Sony's management they do the same.
Best way to make them interested is to buy them one with donations.
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It's very hard to turn a hTC dev into a Sony one,though a samsung one is easy because whatever galaxy series are good they lack the higher grade materials used by Sony,specially Xperia S which look like a portable Bravia tv
The X10 gave a bad taste to xda devs, the Arc was not well liked too because it wasn't dual core,but now the xperia S with it's very good CPU,12mp camera and HD screen should be perfect!
They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda and other forums adv spaces,the Google Nexus Prime is very well advertised for exemple,there is a remarquable ''push'' marketing
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They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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I think it's because most of the developers was behind Dual core devices like HTC Sensation, Samsung etc. but we are making progress we have a great team of dedicated developers like FreeXperia Team. Now our device is under official CM chart. We have most popular custom ROMs like MIUI, CM and few stock based ROM. Lot of the other custom ROM's I have seen are most based on CM so doesn't make much difference. The exceptions are Oxygen, SuperOSR etc. Those developers are active with Nexus devices.
Unlike other devices Sony is little hard to develop due to heavy customization and hardware. Compared to other manufactures Sony has only few customers. HTC users stay with HTC, Samsung users stays with Samsung devices and upgrade to newer Samsung model but they hardly change from HTC to Samsung etc. So it will take time. I'm guessing by Xperia S release we might see few more developers because now we have more advance hardware people might consider upgrading to Sony. But I'm happy with the development what we have now.
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
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Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
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Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
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Based on my experience with LG Optimus 2x with unlocked and standard bootloader, it is very easy to bring back brick Optimus 2x by using nvflash/smartflash way. I can mess with partition size without worry about non bootable android device.
And now, android development in Optimus 2x getting rise, many new ROMs get published..
If Sony gives those flexibility with their phone(not to worry about brick phone as long it is related with software), I believe we can really mess with Sony Xperia S
Cheers
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i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I agree with DoomLoRD its better to have quality over quantity. Few ROMs but stable, fast, and beautiful instead of bunch of ROMs that hardly have difference from the STOCK one or improve nothing its pointless.
I don't agree with samsung actual users being loyal to the brand, most of sgs2 users are freshly converted people from symbian/bb/iphone to Android.They wanted the best specs from the beginning,though they are a little deceived by the poor plastic and design.SE Arc lacked the dual core and was sold at a high price which made people buy sgs2 instead, the Xperia S packs very good specs(12mp,dual core),superb design and appareantly nice materials!
So unless the sgs3 features quad-core cpu and also 12mp there are big chances to have people switching from sammy to Sony this time.
HTC fans are very loyal to HTC because of the Sense roms and super high quality aluminium materials,but some dudes like me who were SE fans in the past...we can come back to Sony again
Why should SGS II people switch to the Sony Xperia S?!
They should offer the same performance or SGS II should be faster due Exynos.
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SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Then I'll pre-order one for sure.
Thanks FXP Team for your great work.
Bin4ry said:
SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Now that we have your "official word" on the matter we all can stop worrying about developer support
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Hey i'm Chriss-not an owner of Find 5 but wish i was....
I love Find 5....even it's website lists that it supports XDA,which is like a "Loyal King".
I want to buy it and i 'm trying,i checked out the xda tread and i saw official CM10.1 which really cool but there's nothing else except
AOSP.I mean if you guys can make a some-what stable CM10.1....you guys could easily make more roms like Paranoid,PAC,MIUI would be awesome on 1080p display,and many other roms....more you make better,try out-of-box like firefox os...These things make news and make the device more popular,which brings in more support,donors etc...:good:
So dev who are try hard to fix cm bugs and are stuck build some other roms also ....don't mind the bugs that arise which can be fixed later
I would like to wish the team Best Of Luck! :victory:
Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
With working and stable CM10.1 and AOSP Roms it's easier to port other Roms that are based on either of them.
I'd much rather have those two up and running in a near perfect state before we get a bunch of people that bricked their phones because they jumped on an alpha of Paranoid Android and they have no clue how to restore them.
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Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
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Yeah. CM kangs almost never appear until CM is mostly complete for a device, and we didn't release until yesterday.
This device has only had kernel source available for sometime around a month, and isn't exactly widely available. Good development takes time.
FYI, CM went from "developers received the device" to "95% working" in less than two weeks, with the first week of that being research and laying the groundwork for a port. Most of the actual coding was done over the past weekend. Of course, this was only possible due to devices that came before us, like the Xperia Z.
It's amazing how much easier Qualcomms are to work with than Exynos.
Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Not gonna get that on Exynos BTW.... All of the Exynos4 CM maintainers are barely touching their devices, and so far, not a single person with maintainer experience has expressed interest in the Exynos5-based GS4. (As to Qualcomm-based GS4s - Some CM people are getting them, but myself and the other ex-Teamhacksung guys are going elsewhere.)
Edit: Obviously, other people can pick up the ball and take a crack at the Exynos5 GS4, but so far, I have not encountered anyone with an interest. All of the people with AOSP-on-Exynos experience I've talked to are done with the platform, and expect Exynos5 "Octa" to be even worse than the Exynos4 was. There's always the possibility we'll get a pleasant surprise from Samsung, but I have very little hope given that they completely failed to deliver on their promises made at the Big Android BBQ.
^ very good to know, thanks Entropy!
First of all!
I'm sorry....i thought cm10.1 had been released weeks or months before...so that's why,i asked
Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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You won't see any discussion of their port here due to their rampant GPL noncompliance.
They're kangers of the worst sort.
I'm sure the ROMs are coming, wait til CM 10.1 is mostly stable, I'm impressed how quickly development is proceeding already.
^^ same. CM came quick! This phone is just barely starting to grab peoples attention. Its a slow start because its not an HTC or a Samsung, or a Sony... or an LG lol. This is their first international phone ever and it's the first time anyone has even heard of OPPO in the mobile world.
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CM10.1 Rocks!
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Things are really starting to flow now, can't wait to try out al the current custom roms
Rule one is to not ask for ETF, and perhaps make a donation.
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I just built Jellybeer, but I haven't got my Find 5 yet so can't test it yet
PAC ROM rocks! Working camera now
Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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i am not a developer. from what i know from flashing ROMs, phones that have a single chipset (like the HTC one with snapdragon, vs Galaxy S3/S4 tha thad exynos/snapdragon variants) attract more dev support b/c ROMs can be flashed across all carrier versions.
and along with official bootloader unlocking, it appears HTC would attract more devs. i think it will also depend on who releases source code quickly.
again, this is just conjecture based on experience.
I believe I read that HTC already released the source code for the one.
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If I'm not mistaken the galaxy series' are easier to develop for. Having said that I think the one will receive much love just because it's a freakin awesome phone and everybody is going to have on a like Steve.
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It doesn't matter which phone will receive more development because both phones will have a great amount of development anyway.
A Galaxy series phone is always guaranteed to have a lot of dev support and from the devs already supporting the One, with more to come, this will have great continued support aswell.
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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Really should be in the Q&A
But should receive a generous amount of dev. CM creator Steve put out a wonderful review of the unit. I would suspect this and the S4 will be the major units of 2013 dev wise.
No support for exynos devices. Team hacksung already stated that none of them will buy Samsung phones. They are frustrated due to lack of sources. They already moved to Xperia Z.
Of course, snapdragon version will get support
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Also Koush said on G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will have locked bootloaders. It took a lot of work for Adam Outler and others to get the bootloader unlocked for the Note 2 & S3.
KidCarter93 said:
It doesn't matter which phone will receive more development because both phones will have a great amount of development anyway.
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Most of so called "development" is copying other people's work, changing some icons and other images and zipping it up and making a cwm file. There are very few unique and useful mods.
Once some most glaring problems with a phone are fixed, development's job is finished. The rest is photoshopping and winzipping.
I say HTC One has already recevied almost enough development support. Volume button wake is implemented to fight the stupid power button placement problem. Most ROMs have already removed the annoying menu bar. Once custom kernels solve the rest of the problems like slow charging, what else is needed?
I am coming from s3 as i lost my device was thinking to get one this time.
I am also worried about its development.
But i am sure it will get cm rom but i dont think it will get as much aosp rom as galaxy series
And proper development means aosp rom development not some mods and theming
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nitinvaid said:
I am coming from s3 as i lost my device was thinking to get one this time.
I am also worried about its development.
But i am sure it will get cm rom but i dont think it will get as much aosp rom as galaxy series
And proper development means aosp rom development not some mods and theming
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It doesn't matter if the One has less AOSP ROMs than the S4 because as long as they're both high end phones and both have high quality ROMs to choose from, what else matters?
The One will get plenty of AOSP ROMs anyway. Any phone can be used for this following example;
CM is usually one of the first ROMs to be released on a phone, whether that be officially or unofficially. Once CM hits the device, a lot more ROMs appear because a lot of people base their ROMs right off of CM.
Even if CM isn't one of the first ROMs, the only ROMs we'll really see before it are stock based ROMs just like we have in this forum.
Quality NOT quantity!
And proper development doesn't mean AOSP because it wouldn't exactly be hard for me to make a ROM from an existing AOSP ROM. Just add a few simple features and done. That's not proper development in the slightest.
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