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[FYI] Auto brightness is brighter than your highest stock setting

I noticed today when I was outside that it was hard to see my screen because I always keep it at the lowest brightness level.
I bumped it up to the max so I can see easier.
I tried out auto brightness immediately after and it was much brighter than the brightest stock setting.
TMYK

That's odd, so you're saying if you put it on the highest setting with manually configured brightness, it still won't go as high as auto brightness in a situation where its needed (like direct sunlight)?
I personally use the auto brightness anyway but that's interesting to know...

sj_martin said:
I noticed today when I was outside that it was hard to see my screen because I always keep it at the lowest brightness level.
I bumped it up to the max so I can see easier.
I tried out auto brightness immediately after and it was much brighter than the brightest stock setting.
TMYK
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That's weird as hell lmao. I'll test it tomorrow with sun. Will be SO upset if its true. YOU BETTER HOPE UR WRONG lol.

sj_martin said:
I noticed today when I was outside that it was hard to see my screen because I always keep it at the lowest brightness level.
I bumped it up to the max so I can see easier.
I tried out auto brightness immediately after and it was much brighter than the brightest stock setting.
TMYK
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yeah i noticed that too. auto bright seems to go higher than the regular brightest setting.

If that's true, is there a way to manually increase the brightness to max?,
you know, similar to increasing the volume values?
Maybe someone can try it

gsvnet said:
That's odd, so you're saying if you put it on the highest setting with manually configured brightness, it still won't go as high as auto brightness in a situation where its needed (like direct sunlight)?
I personally use the auto brightness anyway but that's interesting to know...
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yes, exactly.

the auto brightness probably kicks into outdoor visibility level.

Dose your phone say at the lowest light level. Because mine, even after I set it to the lowest level, moves to a brighter level.
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Ditto, mine always finds a way to creep back up to higher brightness levels.
I think I'll just use auto from now on
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I'm not real sure but the lowest manual level seems still too bright to me. I've seen lower with Auto on, but maybe its my eyes playing tricks again.

It is probably Power Savings in the Display settings that is STILL automatically dimming the display, so ot merely seems like auto brightness is brighter than manual max adjustment. Turning Power Savings off keeps the screen at 100% all the time --the browser and other apps will not dim the display anymore.
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silverwolf0 said:
I'm not real sure but the lowest manual level seems still too bright to me. I've seen lower with Auto on, but maybe its my eyes playing tricks again.
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This is one thing that drives me nuts with this phone. I use the "dimmer" widget to drop the thing down to 10 brightness, but even that's way too bright and I haven't yet found an app that makes the display dimmer than 10 (I know that requires root, but none of the ones in the market seem to work with the Vibrant).

applebook said:
It is probably Power Savings in the Display settings that is STILL automatically dimming the display, so ot merely seems like auto brightness is brighter than manual max adjustment. Turning Power Savings off keeps the screen at 100% all the time --the browser and other apps will not dim the display anymore.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but I have power savings off and auto brightness off, and the screen still dims when I go into the browser.

Screen Filter

Maybe a useful post for some. I found this the other night, mainly because I was bored So if you use the app Screen Filter (which, by the way, is awesome for night time viewing in bed while the wife is asleep, you wont have to hear her say stop playing on your phone, because the screen is so bright!), but if you turn up screen filter all the way up to 100% brightness AND turn up your regular Android display setting up to 100%, you are basically getting your display level at 200%! And let me tell you...It is BRIGHT! I know this may be a useless post to most, but I found it to be actually very helpful in viewing my screen in direct sunlight, when the normal display brightness just wasn't enough.

Been using this app for months.
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I am having problems enabling and disabling it consistently, but when I do enable it at 100% with my Android brightness at 100% I don't see any further brightness.
Also what is the advantage of this over the regular manual brightness?

Milkman00 said:
I am having problems enabling and disabling it consistently, but when I do enable it at 100% with my Android brightness at 100% I don't see any further brightness.
Also what is the advantage of this over the regular manual brightness?
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I don't use it for brightness, I use it to dim the screen to a lower point that what you can do in the settings.

I've been using this app for a few months now. I love using it at night to watch a video in the dark, since the lowest setting for the brightness always seems to hurt my eyes in the dark.

That sounds unbelievable yet I believe it. I'd be concerned though that doing this might shorten the screen's life or damage it. As for that app it's been on my homescreen for a long time. Pretty essential.

Only problem is soft keys ofter are too bright for night veiwing
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I have tasker set to open screen filter at a low brightness at 11 pm
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Phones are going to come to life someday. Take note: LG Optimus line. ASUS Transformer. And now the Nexus Prime.
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Automatic Brightness... Bonkers, help please

Hi,
I bought a Nexus 7 32GB Wifi version yesterday from Carphonewarehouse.
I brought it home and it asked to update, I let it update to 4.2, with automatic brightness my screen is very dim, I mean its not nice to view with automatic brightness as it seems to dim the screen to much.
I know people are having problems with latest update etc, as I updated immediately when turning on device etc I cannot be sure if this is due to the update or it was like it before the update, I would like to use automatic brightness to conserve power but it seems to dim the brightness to much and I also notice the brightness level adjusts quite a bit in same lighting and is very noticeable when viewing screen.
When using full brightness the screens brilliant.
Is this part of the 4.2 bugs ?
I disabled auto sync for Google Currents to help some performance issues for now.
As this is my first tablet and updated immediately I can't compare differences between updates to know if its just a bug.
How long does it take to charge the tablet fully approx ? as mine seems to take ages, again I am aware this is possibly another bug after 4.2 update.
PS: I here that I should have got a £15 Google credit but never got an email and I had to pay by card when I purchased a £2 app as no option to choose Google credit only to pay by card. Was this a limited time offer or something as am gutted I not got it ?
Thanks for any help/advice!
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Hi,
Unfortunately the screen flickers issue is a well known issue to nexus 7. Since you just bought it, I would recommend exchange it and hope you get a good one. Mine is having the same issue but I kinda get used to it. Good luck...
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If automatic brightness does not work the way you want turn it off. Flicker gone.
It is a checkbox under settings / display.
I like mine best with brightness set to about 50%. An added bonus is that really extends battery life.

I highly suggest giving lux a try. I bought it because I found the minimum brightness on the n7 was too bright for night reading. It has a lot of settings to tailor the auto brightness to your taste. I turned off the android auto brightness and set the manual brightness almost all the way down and let lux adjust it from there.

4.2 totally screwed up automatic brightness, made it super sensitive. best option right now is to turn it off and change thaw brightness manually

Thanks everyone for replying, gonna just turn off auto brightness and set it to 50%, its ok at 50%, thanks much appreciated!
Fingers crossed an update will sort the sensitivity out.
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What does the flicker everyone refers to about auto brightness look like? I don't think I experience this issue. It may be the lighting I have around doesn't cause it.
What I DO have an issue with is low brightness either manual or auto in dim rooms where I don't want to be blinded, is the flickering caused by WiFi signal being low. This isn't the same issue others refer to here is it?

snarlytaz said:
What does the flicker everyone refers to about auto brightness look like? I don't think I experience this issue. It may be the lighting I have around doesn't cause it.
What I DO have an issue with is low brightness either manual or auto in dim rooms where I don't want to be blinded, is the flickering caused by WiFi signal being low. This isn't the same issue others refer to here is it?
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If it flickers on manual - you have a different issue.

Some devices have screens that are significantly dimmer than others on all brightness settings (I've had 4 so I should know). I've got an n7 that the screen is virtually unusable on auto under some conditions. I complained and got a replacement and they've never bothered picking up the faulty one. My Mrs has it now and it doesn't bother her but, side by side with my n7, its a massive difference. If it bothers you return it because it'll really get on your nerves after a while.
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my device died anyway so took back for replacement. I decided not to update to 4.2 as auto brightness works excellent without update and no bugs either so will wait for a more stable update, much happier now. Thanks!
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Automatic brightness better on or off ?

What's best for battery life, automatic brightness on ? Or set to a certain % ? Like at home if at 40%-50% that's good enough, but outside, or in bright area, hard to tell, much higher, or even auto.
Some phones do better or worse on auto brightness. Some phones can adjust quickly and actually do auto brightness very good, other phones I've had suck at adjusting the light level on auto.
What do you recommend ? And which is easier on battery life ?
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Try lux. It can give you the best of both.

Zorachus said:
What's best for battery life, automatic brightness on ? Or set to a certain % ? Like at home if at 40%-50% that's good enough, but outside, or in bright area, hard to tell, much higher, or even auto.
Some phones do better or worse on auto brightness. Some phones can adjust quickly and actually do auto brightness very good, other phones I've had suck at adjusting the light level on auto.
What do you recommend ? And which is easier on battery life ?
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Personally, I never put my brightness on auto. I always put it at a certain percentage up to the point where I can see the icons on my phone and such. Putting it on auto will make the phone fluctuate between low and high brightness setting according to the lighting of the environment. When I'm home, I always set my brightness level at the very lowest. Also another thing I notice is that when I'm outside I need to turn up the lighting to about 10-20 percent and I good to go. When I'm indoors, the screen is quite bright and so I just turn it back down. (You get the point.)
I don't think there are phones that perform better or worse on auto-brightness. I don't even think it has any effect on performance. Anyways, to answer your question about battery life. If you can't see the phone while you're outdoors then you need to turn it up and thus it will use more power. Personally, I suggest that you set it at a fixed percentage rather than auto.

Was looking into this question myself. What I was able to turn up amounts to the following.
Setting the brightness manually or through the use of the auto brightness makes no difference if its the same percentage/ brightness setting.
The difference comes down to using auto brightness will cause the cpu execute to make the setting changed according to the polled data from the light sensor. The will cause minimal additional battery drain I suspect, but the exact number I haven't been able to identify. So this is the downside. The upside is that if the brightness settings are compatible for you, its very convenient.
As for the manual, you may gain a little due to the lower cpu use. More importantly, you can tune the brightness to what you want. If the auto setting for a certain outdoor environment is too high, if the manual setting is lower that the user prefers this could also save battery. Of course the opposite is also true. Same for indoors, etc... Being manual it requires you to change it, but using certain ROMs, quick setting tile or apps make this a lot quicker.
I'm personally running Xylon + Nova Prime + Brightness widget
Set the gesture swipe up, to execute the widget
Set 0,20,45,80,auto percent brightness in the widget
Swipe up to cycle through when indoor or out, home...
Zorachus said:
What's best for battery life, automatic brightness on ? Or set to a certain % ? Like at home if at 40%-50% that's good enough, but outside, or in bright area, hard to tell, much higher, or even auto.
Some phones do better or worse on auto brightness. Some phones can adjust quickly and actually do auto brightness very good, other phones I've had suck at adjusting the light level on auto.
What do you recommend ? And which is easier on battery life ?
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I too am running Xylon + Nova. Where do I get this brightness app ? I'll look on Play.
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Free in the play store
Zorachus said:
I too am running Xylon + Nova. Where do I get this brightness app ? I'll look on Play.
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If you really need to conserve the battery I don't recommend having your screen brightness
at more than than 10%, most of the time I run at around 5%.
Asking others about their Auto Brightness experience is not very useful because a user
in Brazil will have a different result than a user in Norway.
If you charge your phone often and can read the screen at auto brightness just run it at that.
Otherwise you should always manually adjust your brightness for your own threshold of
readability.
A curious thing about LCD screens is that blacks and whites draw similar amount of power.
(As opposed to other technologies such as OLED). So ROMs with high contrast text that are
easier to read can actually help you save battery if you manually adjust brightness for readability.

I agree with using Lux, once setup and you have linked several light readings to screen brightness settings and set to dynamically adjust its great. The paid version allows you to dim the screen alot more then you can do normally and makes reading in bed very easy on your eyes.
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Try lux. It can give you the best of both.
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Automatic brightness - am I missing something ?

if I put the manual slider on 100%, and then tick the "automatic brightness", it stays at 100%, even in a fully darkened room.
if I put the manual slider on 0%, and then tick the "automatic brightness", it stays at 0%, even under direct sunlight.
What gives ? LG forgot to program this feature ?

Noam23 said:
if I put the manual slider on 100%, and then tick the "automatic brightness", it stays at 100%, even in a fully darkened room.
if I put the manual slider on 0%, and then tick the "automatic brightness", it stays at 0%, even under direct sunlight.
What gives ? LG forgot to program this feature ?
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I am not certain on this but my understanding of how the auto brightness works is that it adjusts within a certain % up or down of where you set the slider.
I am sure someone with a bit more knowledge will be along shortly to advise exactly how it works though

It appears to me that the 100% and 0% always do full on or full dimmed, whether you set auto brightness or not. Anywhere in between it does work with auto brightness, but the screen reacts quite slowly.

Auto brightness on this device is rubbish. Period. It doesn't work at all when you're set on 100 or 0 percent, and if you're in between, it works, but only buy using very slight changes to the manual setting that you chose. Why on earth did they base the auto brightness on the manual brightness???
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auto brightness works quite well for me. I have it set as a 55% baseline and it always changes in more or less light. It takes a second but it will do it and works great. The slider does not show the change though.

Download Lux Auto Brightness.

bova80 said:
auto brightness works quite well for me. I have it set as a 55% baseline and it always changes in more or less light. It takes a second but it will do it and works great. The slider does not show the change though.
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No, it doesn't work well for you at all. If you put it at 55%, and go to direct sunlight, it will never come close to 100% brightness (I would say only about 60-70%). Moreover, if you go to a pitch black room, you will not get 1-2% brightness, rather ~30-40%. I would say the automatic brightness control of the G2, can only play with ~10% above/below what you set your manual settings. Who does automatic brightness like this ? pathetic and useless.

sacredsoul said:
Download Lux Auto Brightness.
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I also use a 3rd party program to control brightness. My phone would just randomly uncheck auto brightness on its own. Not sure why it sucks so bad on this phone. So, check out Velis Auto Brightness in the play store. It disables system management of brightness, takes over the job.
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D-meist said:
I also use a 3rd party program to control brightness. My phone would just randomly uncheck auto brightness on its own. Not sure why it sucks so bad on this phone. So, check out Velis Auto Brightness in the play store. It disables system management of brightness, takes over the job.
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I used to use Velis too but it was a bit too cluttered for me. Lux was a whole lot more userfriendly. Plus it can reduce brightness below minimum levels and has a built in night mode that activates automatically. Found it best for my use.

Noam23 said:
No, it doesn't work well for you at all. If you put it at 55%, and go to direct sunlight, it will never come close to 100% brightness (I would say only about 60-70%). Moreover, if you go to a pitch black room, you will not get 1-2% brightness, rather ~30-40%. I would say the automatic brightness control of the G2, can only play with ~10% above/below what you set your manual settings. Who does automatic brightness like this ? pathetic and useless.
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whether it goes to 100% brightness or not it brightens up enough that I can see it clear as day. So why do I care if it doesn't get to 100%?

bova80 said:
auto brightness works quite well for me. I have it set as a 55% baseline and it always changes in more or less light. It takes a second but it will do it and works great. The slider does not show the change though.
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You have no clue how are the brightness works.
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shook187 said:
You have no clue how are the brightness works.
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and like I said, why do I care if it is changing brightness to levels I can see for the given light I'm in what does it matter? Apparently it is doing something right.

Have seen a lot of varied answers on this topic but having owned an iPhone in the past LG has set up their brightness controls to work in much the same way. You basically have two independent controls that can be combined to work together.
For example, I have my brightness on 85% and Auto is checked to ON. This means brightness will adjust automatically but never exceed 85%. You are setting a ceiling and it will NEVER go to 100% bright if set this way. If I turn Auto OFF, its always 85% regardless of ambient light. Hope this helps some peeps understand this better. I actually prefer their implementation but it's familiar to me.
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nateinva said:
Have seen a lot of varied answers on this topic but having owned an iPhone in the past LG has set up their brightness controls to work in much the same way. You basically have two independent controls that can be combined to work together.
For example, I have my brightness on 85% and Auto is checked to ON. This means brightness will adjust automatically but never exceed 85%. You are setting a ceiling and it will NEVER go to 100% bright if set this way. If I turn Auto OFF, its always 85% regardless of ambient light. Hope this helps some peeps understand this better. I actually prefer their implementation but it's familiar to me.
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now this makes sense, if only someone explained it like that before, rather than saying you don't know what you are talking about.

nateinva said:
Have seen a lot of varied answers on this topic but having owned an iPhone in the past LG has set up their brightness controls to work in much the same way. You basically have two independent controls that can be combined to work together.
For example, I have my brightness on 85% and Auto is checked to ON. This means brightness will adjust automatically but never exceed 85%. You are setting a ceiling and it will NEVER go to 100% bright if set this way. If I turn Auto OFF, its always 85% regardless of ambient light. Hope this helps some peeps understand this better. I actually prefer their implementation but it's familiar to me.
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This explanation contains logic, while LG's automatic brightness control, contains none. If you set brightness at 85%, and turn automatic brightness ON, assuming 85% set the top ceiling, then going into a pitch black room will still allow the LG to turn brightness to something like 5%. In reality, it doesn't happen, even in pitch black rooms, the LG is still close to 85% (maybe 65%), which is totally blinding. If you want to see how a working automatic brightness control behave, install lux brightness control.

Noam23 said:
This explanation contains logic, while LG's automatic brightness control, contains none. If you set brightness at 85%, and turn automatic brightness ON, assuming 85% set the top ceiling, then going into a pitch black room will still allow the LG to turn brightness to something like 5%. In reality, it doesn't happen, even in pitch black rooms, the LG is still close to 85% (maybe 65%), which is totally blinding. If you want to see how a working automatic brightness control behave, install lux brightness control.
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I don't disagree with this at all....I'm still observing some odd/unexpected behavior and you're right.....it doesn't seem like there is enough 'travel range' when using auto in very dark environments. 85% in regular/full light should scale down dramatically in a dark room...one would think?
I actually prefer my screen brighter though so this hasn't bothered me, but that is personal preference and definitely not one size fits all. I have used the built-in controls on CM based ROMs on a few of my other devices before the G2 and you get much more fine-grained control there. I will say though that as far as the stock brightness controls go, the G2 behaves identically to the 2 iPhones I've used. If anyone reading is interested and has a friend with an iPhone, hop into the settings and look at the brightness controls. I think you'll see where LG drew some inspiration.
Loving this phone overall....best I've owned so far! I purchased off contract and sold my Droid RAZR MAXX HD on Swappa....couldn't be happier.

Noam23 said:
This explanation contains logic, while LG's automatic brightness control, contains none. If you set brightness at 85%, and turn automatic brightness ON, assuming 85% set the top ceiling, then going into a pitch black room will still allow the LG to turn brightness to something like 5%. In reality, it doesn't happen, even in pitch black rooms, the LG is still close to 85% (maybe 65%), which is totally blinding. If you want to see how a working automatic brightness control behave, install lux brightness control.
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Did you use any android phone before the G2?they all work the same way,sony Samsung,lg....
You are right that the auto brightness should go from zero to 100% depends on the available light but all the brands i used have the same auto brightness.
I think it's something related to android.
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Noam23 said:
No, it doesn't work well for you at all. If you put it at 55%, and go to direct sunlight, it will never come close to 100% brightness (I would say only about 60-70%). Moreover, if you go to a pitch black room, you will not get 1-2% brightness, rather ~30-40%. I would say the automatic brightness control of the G2, can only play with ~10% above/below what you set your manual settings. Who does automatic brightness like this ? pathetic and useless.
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if you set it at 55% or any other, then that's your max even when you go into sunlight.
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gm007 said:
Did you use any android phone before the G2?they all work the same way,sony Samsung,lg....
You are right that the auto brightness should go from zero to 100% depends on the available light but all the brands i used have the same auto brightness.
I think it's something related to android.
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It wasn't like this with my Galaxy s2.
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Noam23 said:
It wasn't like this with my Galaxy s2.
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Yes because there was not any slider to tweak the auto brightness settings.
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