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OTA process?

As I sit here and wait for 2.2.2 for my N1, it occurs to me I know nothing about the OTA process. A quick search of XDA reveals some of the same questions but few answers. Here's some things I'd like explained:
- How does the rollout process work?
- Are they controlled by HTC or Google or Tmobile?
- How does the selection of IMEIs work?
- How are the carriers involved in the distribution process?
- Is country of residence a factor?
- Does the update process work faster over WiFi? Or maybe require a cellular data connection?
- What does *#*#CHECKIN#*#* do exactly?
- What does clicking Settings...About Phone...System Updates do?
- Is the signing and structure of the update package understood?
- Would I get an OTA if I had no cellular data plan (only WiFi)?
Can anyone point me to a thread/page/wiki that has these answers?

To the best of my knowledge:
James Bell said:
As I sit here and wait for 2.2.2 for my N1, it occurs to me I know nothing about the OTA process. A quick search of XDA reveals some of the same questions but few answers. Here's some things I'd like explained:
- How does the rollout process work?
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Google puts the update on their server, your phone checks in for updates every once in a while. If the Google servers tell your phone there is an update, it downloads it and prompts you to install it.
- Are they controlled by HTC or Google or Tmobile?
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100% Google controlled
- How does the selection of IMEIs work?
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No one knows for sure. Seemingly random unless you have one of the "Holiday" Nexus Ones which seem to get preferential treatment to update first. Not always the case though.
- How are the carriers involved in the distribution process?
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Aside from the data being downloaded across their network, the carriers are not involved in any way with the Nexus One's update distribution.
- Is country of residence a factor?
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I don't believe so. It goes off your IMEI and whether Google has chosen you.
- Does the update process work faster over WiFi? Or maybe require a cellular data connection?
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That depends on the speed of your wifi or 3G connection. It is like downloading any other file off the internet (wifi will probably be faster).
- What does *#*#CHECKIN#*#* do exactly?
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It forces your phone to check Google's servers for an update. But, if your IMEI isn't in the approved pool that the update is being sent to, it will NOT cause your phone to get the update ahead of time. IMO, the checkin code is worthless as you will almost always see the update file posted here long before your phone will tell you there is an update.
- What does clicking Settings...About Phone...System Updates do?
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That only lists updates your phone has already downloaded and are ready to apply. It does not check for new updates.
- Is the signing and structure of the update package understood?
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Yes.
- Would I get an OTA if I had no cellular data plan (only WiFi)?
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Yes.
Can anyone point me to a thread/page/wiki that has these answers?
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The wiki is located in a link at the top, labeled appropriately enough "WIKI".
It may not have these specific answers, but is an excellent place to go before asking any questions here.
Oh, and one more thing. You have posted this in the wrong forum. This forum is not for questions. The forum labeled "Nexus One Q&A" would have been the appropriate forum to start this thread in.

I have a korean nexus and it got updates which slighty different from stock rom, i think it maded by kt itself, not google.
My opinion is thats because its a operator model. And yours t-mobile nexuse one wouldnt be one of the first wholl recieve ota.
Btw my korean nexus stll didnt recieved FRG83D

There are no operator models in the US, only Vodafone in Europe and KT in Korea have them.
The updates of the operator ones still come from Google, but they're delayed for testing/modification by the networks.

- What does clicking Settings...About Phone...System Updates do?
That only lists updates your phone has already downloaded and are ready to apply. It does not check for new updates.
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Curious: Why, for example, sense'd phones can have "check for updates" button, and we have to just stare and wait?
Cheers!

Because HTC decided that's how they wanted it.

Rusty! said:
Because HTC decided that's how they wanted it.
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Yes, but I can't find any reason to NOT give the option to manually chceck for updates. I had that option in stock android 2.1 on the Milestone, so it can't be to difficult if Moto Europe lazy devs could do that. Am I missing something or it's just illogical?
Hm. Maybe google didn't want hteir servers to be DDoS'd when new update arrives

Rusty! said:
There are no operator models in the US, only Vodafone in Europe and KT in Korea have them.
The updates of the operator ones still come from Google, but they're delayed for testing/modification by the networks.
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Hi Rusty, how do define operator models? I have FRG83D installed! Before that I had FRF91 (Vodafone)! Is my phone still a operator model? In which way does it effect the OTA process?

Unless you've deliberately made the effort to switch to the untouched Google firmware, you'll still have the Voda variant.
What this means is you will receive updates much later than the Google bought handsets, if you tried to install the 2.2.2 update (FRG83G), you'll find that it will fail.

Rusty! said:
Unless you've deliberately made the effort to switch to the untouched Google firmware, you'll still have the Voda variant.
What this means is you will receive updates much later than the Google bought handsets, if you tried to install the 2.2.2 update (FRG83G), you'll find that it will fail.
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I've unlocked the bootloader and installed FRG83D. Prior to that I had FRF91 2.1 Vodafone Version!

Got ya. You are on par with the Google bought phones then.

Rusty! said:
Got ya. You are on par with the Google bought phones then.
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Thanks Rusty!

it's really a hard work to wait OTA with google's official version. So I can't wait and just flash a lot of vendor room from the XDA.

the "checkin" seemed to force the phone to check update...
I've rooted my FRG83D, and received my 2.2.2 yesterday, but failed to go through the update due to not found carhome.apk which I deleted manually...

Reports coming in that Xoom Wifi owners have received the updates today!

Hey Xoomers! It appears that wifi-only xoom owners are also having the updates pushed to their tabs also! I have not received it yet, but be patient, looks like all Xooms are being updated!
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/380602#380602

could be an accident. looks like people over there are getting silenced about the update

From the sounds of it, this was meant to go out to their preview members only. I guess someone jumped the gun and didn't bother to let them know they weren't supposed to talk about it.
Which is only a guess, since the corporate rep on the forums has been very vague - only a single post with a "maybe" and then a bunch of posts insisting that people who have stated they got an update check their email.
I wonder if Motorola has really internalized the fact that there are, like, four or five other vendors for these tablets coming out in the next few months - many of them with very, very similar hardware. Not communicating with their tech-savvy audience seems like a poor way to convince people to recommend their tablet over others.

They need to share this ****!!!
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i got the update on my WIFI ONLY xoom i tried installing it it crashed on the android with exclamation mark, so i restarted and its back on 3.0.1 and says its up to date
DAMMIT

not only in usa
also reported in my country
Seems moto launch a experiment

This is pretty disappointing. The update obviously exists and works on the wifi xoom but google won't release it yet probably just to make Verizon happy.
Are people really going to go out and buy 3g xooms just because the update on Verizon came first.

SS2006 said:
i got the update on my WIFI ONLY xoom i tried installing it it crashed on the android with exclamation mark, so i restarted and its back on 3.0.1 and says its up to date
DAMMIT
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Same happened to me...

My wife's stock US wifi xoom (purchased 1 week ago) got the update last night. My rooted wifi xoom (purchased shortly after launch) hasn't received it yet.

machupo75 said:
My wife's stock US wifi xoom (purchased 1 week ago) got the update last night. My rooted wifi xoom (purchased shortly after launch) hasn't received it yet.
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Hmm Being in Denmark and having purchased a US Xoom Wifi I wonder what to do. (Stock 3.0)
So I did the following ...
Added a VPN tunnel to USA. (had previosly brought VPN access)
Set the date 1 day back, to let the Xoom look for updates.
" no cigar! "
Set the date 1 day forward (today´s date)
Still no luck -
I wonder if the update is really rolling out
Can Anyone confirm Xoom Wifi is really getting 3.1 right now ?
Is there Anyway to "push" it - (besides the date change procedure)
Have a good one
Mike -

mkrogh65 said:
Hmm Being in Denmark and having purchased a US Xoom Wifi I wonder what to do. (Stock 3.0)
So I did the following ...
Added a VPN tunnel to USA. (had previosly brought VPN access)
Set the date 1 day back, to let the Xoom look for updates.
" no cigar! "
Set the date 1 day forward (today´s date)
Still no luck -
I wonder if the update is really rolling out
Can Anyone confirm Xoom Wifi is really getting 3.1 right now ?
Is there Anyway to "push" it - (besides the date change procedure)
Have a good one
Mike -
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I also have a US WIFI only Xoom in Europe and i'm impatient
I downloaded the update from development forum, made a host USB cable and updated my Xoom manually.
I must say that everything that i hoped for is fixed in 3.1, so i'm really pleased with my Xoom now.

poisike said:
I also have a US WIFI only Xoom in Europe and i'm impatient
I downloaded the update from development forum, made a host USB cable and updated my Xoom manually.
I must say that everything that i hoped for is fixed in 3.1, so i'm really pleased with my Xoom now.
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ya - I read about the procedure.
I dont think ill root my Xoom, even though my phone is (SGS I9000)
But is it possible to do without rooting the Xoom ?
Could you please provide link from the post you followed ?
Mike

mkrogh65 said:
ya - I read about the procedure.
I dont think ill root my Xoom, even though my phone is (SGS I9000)
But is it possible to do without rooting the Xoom ?
Could you please provide link from the post you followed ?
Mike
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You don't need root, my Xoom was stock before and is stock now.
Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13679173&postcount=110

poisike said:
I also have a US WIFI only Xoom in Europe and i'm impatient
I downloaded the update from development forum, made a host USB cable and updated my Xoom manually.
I must say that everything that i hoped for is fixed in 3.1, so i'm really pleased with my Xoom now.
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I'd also like to hear more about your update experience and see how you made a usb host cable.
Will probably require a new thread.

SnakeManJayd said:
I'd also like to hear more about your update experience and see how you made a usb host cable.
Will probably require a new thread.
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Read the Guide thread, all information is there, including a link to how to make a host cable. If something is still unclear, then just ask.

Not according to my conversation with Motorola today. Can you buy a wi-fi only from Verizon? Just wondering if those are still branded differently and that's why they're getting updates.
For now 32GB is plenty for me so I'm not exactly screaming for the SD card update. But I will be a little disappointed if I have to wait weeks for my update when Verizon got theirs already. There were several items in the list below that I was really hoping to take advantage of. I'm not exactly crying over the update just yet though, because I'd rather do the official OTA update than download directly like others have been doing. However, I will pre-qualify all this with...the rep I spoke with didn't seem to be the most knowlegable and appeared to be reading from a script based on the responses I was given to some other questions I asked. So take this with a grain of salt.
Ann: Motorola XOOM with Wi-Fi tablets and other variants of Motorola XOOM will receive the update within the next several weeks.
frost: will this update include the sd card support?
Ann: It does not.
frost: will that fix be implemented any time in the near future?
Ann: It's enhancements are:
● Enables movie services including Android Market Movie Rental via full HDCP / DRM support
● Enables support for full Adobe Flash 10.2 release
● Picture Transfer Protocol Feature Support
● Bluetooth(R) support in Gtalk
● Bluetooth(R) mouse support along with further Bluetooth(R) headset support
● Adding Proxy support for Wi-Fi network
● Resizable widgets
● Additional shortcut key support for Bluetooth keyboard
Ann: Yes. A future software upgrade will enable the SD card.

So I've changed my Date & Time and still haven't recieved my 3.1 Update for my Wifi Xoom.
Any suggestions....???? (Besides being patient...... just can't do that....)

Coldheat1906 said:
So I've changed my Date & Time and still haven't recieved my 3.1 Update for my Wifi Xoom.
Any suggestions....???? (Besides being patient...... just can't do that....)
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A time machine, it's the only way.

poisike said:
You don't need root, my Xoom was stock before and is stock now.
Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13679173&postcount=110
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Hey - Tnx Man XD
Mike -

Elysian893 said:
A time machine, it's the only way.
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Got to be another way....
Has anyone else with a Wifi model got there update today?

Good News from Acer (Thailand)

Hi,
Here an email I receive from my contact
Associate Director/Business Division Head Acer Computer Co. said:
Acer will offer Android Honey Comb 3.1 update soon and we will update it in our Acer Thailand Facebook, so you can find more related Acer's product information in acer.co.th and any question you can request to our Facebook too
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Facebook Acer TH
Of course no "date" but it's to prevent also false promises, but at least now it's official (oh soon mean this month hopefully hahahaha)
I hope that will makes some people happy.
Have a nice day

sanaell said:
Hi,
Here an email I receive from my contact
Facebook Acer TH
Of course no "date" but it's to prevent also false promises, but at least now it's official (oh soon mean this month hopefully hahahaha)
I hope that will makes some people happy.
Have a nice day
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Even before the Iconia went on sale acer's website said an update will come in june. Good news nevertheless.
Can you ask them about an unlocked bootloader on their facebook?

mr.r9 said:
Even before the Iconia went on sale acer's website said an update will come in june. Good news nevertheless.
Can you ask them about an unlocked bootloader on their facebook?
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Here the reply I sent to him
Sanaell said:
The browsing is terrible and not optimized yet for HTML 5 and CSS 3, google android has been reported about some not supported feature that should be basis, but well honeycomb is young let's hope that we will not wait too long about this, I tried all browsers... dolphin, opera, firefox... none are satisfying.... the stock browser is the best but should be and have to be better.
The GPS is really a pain, take minutes or more to get locked by satelites and that is a question of system settings because someone in USA figured that changing an URL inside the gps.conf let him got satelite lock under 20 seconds... please acer try to fix this, I have an acer liquid metal now and the GPS got lock in few seconds...
Bootloader have to be unlocked for the community, people buy products not only because of the quality but also because of the possibility they can get from it, and in the tablet market, I can insure that the company who will unlock and let freewill to customer to develop,modify, and enhance the tablet will make a big profit from the selling.
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in china,we have no news about the update of 3.1....
i have three exams in june,so i dont have much time to play my tablet.

AT&T Note Edge 6.01 update news

I searched update status and followed a link to Samsung's site. The 6.0 manual was updated as of 081516 so hopefully that means Ma Bell will push the update out within the next month or so. http://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/SM-N915AZKEATT

I posted this same question on the forum for at&t - No answer I post on the there facebook page got a nasty message to contact them at there 1-800 number no one could answer
"Ok I know that ATT does not want to give us they courtesy of timely updates on our Phone or pronise us any dates.
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I have a SM-N915A Note 4 edge still on 5.1.1 out of the 4 major provider ATT has not release 6.0 nor want to give*us a estimated time for release.. But in search for a PDF manual I found that the ATT version of the marshmellow PDF can be downloaded IN SPANISH OR ENGLISH.
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Not very good customer service."

jbless said:
I searched update status and followed a link to Samsung's site. The 6.0 manual was updated as of 081516 so hopefully that means Ma Bell will push the update out within the next month or so.
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Hey... Jbless... that's great news! Thanks for the heads-up. I see that they've enabled the Wi-Fi Calling feature too!

I mo to believe that because every time I give update tells me that these updated ever happens in this version
UCU2COI2

Amazon just sent me an email about potential security issue and update (forced?)

Hello,
We recently learned of a potential security issue with a BLU smartphone our records indicate you purchased or registered:
BLU R1 HD - 16 GB - Black - Prime Exclusive - with Lockscreen Offers & Ads
BLU intends to push out a software update that will fix the issue. Any phone that is powered on and connected to the Internet (through Wi-Fi or a cellular data connection) will automatically receive the update. For more information, including a list of affected phones and instructions for confirming that your phone has been updated, please visit www.bluproducts.com/security, or contact BLU customer service at ‪1-877-602-8762 or [email protected].
Sincerely,
Customer Service
Amazon.com
www.amazon.com
I haven't rooted mine and the update waiting is still the 6.6 one. Turned mine off just in case and going to root mine tonight.

i got this too. their website says:
Security Concern
BLU Products has identified and has quickly removed a recent security issue caused by a 3rd party application which had been collecting unauthorized personal data in the form of text messages, call logs, and contacts from customers using a limited number of BLU mobile devices.
Our customer’s privacy and security are of the upmost importance and priority.
The affected application has since been self-updated and the functionality verified to be no longer collecting or sending this information.
If you have any concerns or questions in regards to your BLU Smartphone, please call our customer service 1-877-602-8762.

Do we know what this even is...?

Sorakun_skyboy said:
Do we know what this even is...?
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Yup, OTA update app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69627703&postcount=1672

emc2cube said:
Yup, OTA update app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69627703&postcount=1672
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Thanks for that, and the link....my mind is at ease now! I followed the instructions on the Blu website to find that app, and it wasn't there because I'm all BL unlocked and debloated.

Please see this article, this is pretty bad..... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-software-security.html
App was sending talk, text, and location information back to China every 72 hours

and even after all that they still wont fu**in update the OS.

Go to http://bluproducts.com/security/
Says to check your version of Wireless Update in settings/apps. If you're on 5.4 you're OK. I am. But then, I updated to v6.6 firmware as soon as I got the phone.
We made the DM.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...retly-sending-users-texts-China-72-hours.html

Full article from Kryptowire:
http://www.kryptowire.com/adups_security_analysis.html
Rehash of NYT article:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3141...1-hd-and-other-phones-sent-data-to-china.html
Sad that BLU got hit with this crappy stuff....the hardware is good! (For the price)

Probably a stupid question, but...
I checked my apps, and I don't even see a Wireless Update app, does this mean I'm safe?

Cute as Heck said:
Probably a stupid question, but...
I checked my apps, and I don't even see a Wireless Update app, does this mean I'm safe?
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it wont bee in your app draw , you need to be rooted and at least install link2sd to see all the apps and remove fota* named apps and the wireless app thats written out clearly .

Go to setting/apps, scroll to bottom, wireless update. v5.4 is OK. Can't be disabled, only rolled back. Don't do that.

KazuDante said:
it wont bee in your app draw , you need to be rooted and at least install link2sd to see all the apps and remove fota* named apps and the wireless app thats written out clearly .
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I didn't mean the app drawer, I was talking about the steps outline on the Blu security page linked in the OP.
I went through [settings > apps > show system] and there's no "Wireless Update" in there.
I rooted the phone to disable ads a while ago, if whatever method I used disabled OTA's, could that be the reason I don't see Wireless Update? If so, does that mean I'm in the clear?

raderator said:
Go to setting/apps, scroll to bottom, wireless update. v5.4 is OK. Can't be disabled, only rolled back. Don't do that.
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So even uninstalling it does not disable it?
Sent from my BLU R1 HD using Tapatalk

According to ConsumerReports, Amazon is extending its return window for this phone. Anyone trying to return 4 months later? lol

waingro808 said:
According to ConsumerReports, Amazon is extending its return window for this phone. Anyone trying to return 4 months later? lol
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Not me. This phone has grown on me.

raderator said:
Not me. This phone has grown on me.
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Yeah, me too. I love this phone and had that app debloated anyway.

waingro808 said:
Yeah, me too. I love this phone and had that app debloated anyway.
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Me too, keeping it, wishing I could buy one for family.

raderator said:
Go to http://bluproducts.com/security/
Says to check your version of Wireless Update in settings/apps. If you're on 5.4 you're OK. I am. But then, I updated to v6.6 firmware as soon as I got the phone.
We made the DM.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...retly-sending-users-texts-China-72-hours.html
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I am 5.4 and am on stock debloated, no OTA updates at all.
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Me too, keeping it, wishing I could buy one for family.
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They will be back in stock in the next 2 weeks according to a consumer reports article. Amazon pulled them all to fix the security issue, and is restocking them. They might also be a BLU R1+ version released soon(which is rumored right now). http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/blu-r1-plus-hits-fcc-likely-amazon-exclusive.html
I just hope Amazon gets on BLU for not giving us the official LET band 12 update yet. Maybe Amazon will pressure Blu to get the promised Nougat update out also. we can only hope.

waingro808 said:
According to ConsumerReports, Amazon is extending its return window for this phone. Anyone trying to return 4 months later? lol
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I just returned mine after purchasing on launch. It was just a backup phone/extra Android device anyway.