Hey guys,
So i've been going back and forth trying to decide if I should upgrade now or wait it out until something better comes along. I love my EVO, but just getting the urge to get something new...i have mixed feelings on the 3D and am pretty stoked for the Samsung Within to come out (supposedly in late July). Also I hear more and more rumors about the iphone coming to sprint this fall. Along with apple getting sprint towers to do some serious testing on their network in KS. If those rumors do become fact and I got a phone before they annouce it, i would be kinda of pi$$ed i didnt wait it out for the iphone.
So i guess im just seeing what you guys think - if sprint will get the iphone or not this year? Or if you have an evo 3d or if your waiting on one of the motorla's to come out or the samsung within...
Just hoping to get some discussion on what everyone is waiting on from sprint this year....look forward to reading everyones posts...
EVO 3D? (Maybe, IMHO until they address the bootloader, back off of it.)
iPhone? No. If you want an iOS device wait for a new iPod Touch to tether to any Android phone.
Samsung ___ (I don't trust them), You gotta love the spec sheet on the GSII though.
I'd wait only until September just to see what crops out. If the Nexus Prime comes out, I'd go for that.
Me personally, I'll be going to the EVO 3D just on the strength of the devs that are getting it as well & the fact that I actually like Sense based roms. I'll also be selling my iPod Touch 4 as I'll be buying the new iPod Touch #_? to tether to the EVO 3D.
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Hey guys,
So i've been going back and forth trying to decide if I should upgrade now or wait it out until something better comes along. I love my EVO, but just getting the urge to get something new...i have mixed feelings on the 3D and am pretty stoked for the Samsung Within to come out (supposedly in late July). Also I hear more and more rumors about the iphone coming to sprint this fall. Along with apple getting sprint towers to do some serious testing on their network in KS. If those rumors do become fact and I got a phone before they annouce it, i would be kinda of pi$$ed i didnt wait it out for the iphone.
So i guess im just seeing what you guys think - if sprint will get the iphone or not this year? Or if you have an evo 3d or if your waiting on one of the motorla's to come out or the samsung within...
Just hoping to get some discussion on what everyone is waiting on from sprint this year....look forward to reading everyones posts...
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Why would you want the iPhone. It's such a piece and android is so much better. I would say get the 3D or wait for the within and get that. At the very least wait for something better to come out. Please do not waste your money on the garbage iPhone.
i'm waiting for news of a SGS2, otherwise the evo3d is cool
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i'm waiting for news of a SGS2
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Same here. I was hoping to hear some sort of announcement this week now that HTC's new flagship has already been released. Figured Sprint has agreements with the various manufacturers to stagger announcements so that new releases aren't downplayed by other major announcements.
Nexus prime, this fall.
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I got my wife the EVO3D and she absolutely loves it. (She had the EVO 4G before)
Even stock it is screaming fast. Instant response to all the touches. Root does currently seem to be an issue and why I don't use it. Wireless tether is a must for me.
As great as the EVO 3D is I think I might wait till the Holidays and get the last greatest then. I am crossing my fingers that Sprint gets the new Nexus at launch since they have been buddy buddy recently.
If the iPhone 5 comes out for Sprint (I doubt it highly) that is a great choice as well. Not as versatile as Android but it does what it does better than anybody else.
Don't flame me, I am an Android Fan boy, but I know how to show respect to the competitors.
I'd wait it out.
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OK maybe I'm just poor, but are you guys paying or planning on paying full retail? Unless you have a really cool rep letting you upgrade after only one year. Is there some awesome place selling phones for cheap that I haven't heard of? (like a trustworthy seller on eBay?)
For me, I'm still holding out until the real EVO replacement. The 3d is only meh to the original. Don't care enough about 3d and the dual core stuff is still just mediocre. When they slap in dual 1 ghz processors, then were talking. Until then, the original EVO is still way up there on list of bad ass phones.
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I'm leaning towards getting a 3D this week. I was going to wait for the SG2 after seeing all the negative initial reviews, but after playing with the 3D, I came away impressed. It's got everything I like about the Evo, with a form factor I like more and the 3D was actually pretty cool to see live. I'm still hoping the SG2 comes out late July as predicted so I can still make a direct comparison before any 30 day return window ends for me.
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Nexus prime, this fall.
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+1 on this...I tried the Evo 3d yesterday not impressed at all
I think my Evo is working just fine and probably sticking with it. I'm going to wait for the next generation of phones (quad-cores).
I can't stand Apple but have you guys read this article?
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I looked at the 3D live and it was nice, but I'm not excited enough to drop a pile of cash for it. I spoke to a Sprint Rep on the phone and she seemed to think that I could get the $75 Premier discount plus the $150 recycle discount for turning in my EVO 4G and that would get me the 3D for free. But after doing more research, it seems like she was just confused.
As far as I can tell, I'd need to buy the phone outright for $450-550 and I'd be able to discount $225 from that. Leaving me another $225+ out of pocket.
The other option would be canceling my contract and paying something just under $200 for early cancellation. Then signing a new 2 year contract and getting the 3D for $180. But that still leaves me paying ~$155 out of pocket.
Is this math generally correct? Or is there another way to upgrade the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D for lower out of pocket costs?
As for which phone I'd upgrade to if I was willing to spend $200-300+, I'm very excited about the SGII but I'm a bit worried about the lack of recent news about possible Sprint coverage on it. I'm also very interested in the Nexus Prime, but by the time it is due out I was expecting to start seeing quad core phones coming out.
Additionally, now after seeing the recent network speed tests and how Sprint is so terrible and my recent problems with extremely slow 3G speeds, I'm seriously considering a switch to Verizon when I upgrade. Plus the fact that I'm seeing Verizon's 4G network expand so much faster than Sprint's (which after a full year is still not available in my area) and the fact that Sprint may be switching over to LTE.
That looks like an HTC or Motorola to me, not an Apple.
I must admit, it looks sexy.
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I can't stand Apple but have you guys read this article?
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yeah i did, just checked it out actually before coming over to XDA...can you tell im working hard over here. I can't tell if I like that form factor or not. I HATED the iphone 4 form factor when it first came out and thought it was the ugliest thing in the world then, but now I love it. If it does look like that I guess I'd have to hold it and see how it is.
What do you guys think - think it wil be a totally revamped iphone coming out this fall or just some minor upgrades, like being compatable with Sprint's network?
The SGSII looks sick as hell and i might have to snatch that up - really hoping the iphone comes to sprint tho - without the outrageous prices!
Thanks for all the comments so far!
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I looked at the 3D live and it was nice, but I'm not excited enough to drop a pile of cash for it. I spoke to a Sprint Rep on the phone and she seemed to think that I could get the $75 Premier discount plus the $150 recycle discount for turning in my EVO 4G and that would get me the 3D for free. But after doing more research, it seems like she was just confused.
As far as I can tell, I'd need to buy the phone outright for $450-550 and I'd be able to discount $225 from that. Leaving me another $225+ out of pocket.
The other option would be canceling my contract and paying something just under $200 for early cancellation. Then signing a new 2 year contract and getting the 3D for $180. But that still leaves me paying ~$155 out of pocket.
Is this math generally correct? Or is there another way to upgrade the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D for lower out of pocket costs?
As for which phone I'd upgrade to if I was willing to spend $200-300+, I'm very excited about the SGII but I'm a bit worried about the lack of recent news about possible Sprint coverage on it. I'm also very interested in the Nexus Prime, but by the time it is due out I was expecting to start seeing quad core phones coming out.
Additionally, now after seeing the recent network speed tests and how Sprint is so terrible and my recent problems with extremely slow 3G speeds, I'm seriously considering a switch to Verizon when I upgrade. Plus the fact that I'm seeing Verizon's 4G network expand so much faster than Sprint's (which after a full year is still not available in my area) and the fact that Sprint may be switching over to LTE.
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IMHO you have to remember, if you keep worrying about the "next best thing" there will be something better to follow, right behind it. I'd wait two months tops, just to see what else will become available.
$155 - $225 for the EVO 3D isn't bad, its generally what you'd normally pay for an average upgrade.
BTW you can't mention switching to Verizon if you're looking to manage money, I don't think you'll be too excited paying more "out of pocket" per month than you have to.
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I'm leaning towards getting a 3D this week. I was going to wait for the SG2 after seeing all the negative initial reviews, but after playing with the 3D, I came away impressed. It's got everything I like about the Evo, with a form factor I like more and the 3D was actually pretty cool to see live. I'm still hoping the SG2 comes out late July as predicted so I can still make a direct comparison before any 30 day return window ends for me.
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Can you post a link to the negative reviews? I've seen nothing but raving reviews on this phone. It's nice to have a balanced opinion.
How is the SGS2 different then the EVO 3D, aren't they the same or similar specs?
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With all the excitement over this device who here is going to jump **** and move to the HTC EVO? I love my little Hero but this phone is awesome! I will probably just give the hero to my lady, but I'm worried development will halt after this is released. This has been a great learning device as we got it rooted to quickly and customization came shortly there after. Id like to here your opinions on the Hero and EVO. Exciting times for Sprint users
Day 1 purchase.
Ceger
It's been fun... but good bye Hero, hello Evo!
I'm getting the Evo when it comes out!
Post root purchase.
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Post root purchase.
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My upgrade is October so hopefully it will be by then.
WhiteWidows said:
My upgrade is October so hopefully it will be by then.
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Mine's in November, but I might bight the bullet to avoid a root-patch
Im not a fan of the size, So I will hold out for something better.
If the N1 drops on Sprint before the EVO even has a date and/or price then I will pick it up (the Nexus). If the EVO has a date and price when then happens, well, then it will depend.
I love all the cool phones dropping every 6 months anymore, but wow this is getting expensive!
If it were rooted and had real hardkeys, I'd be at Best Buy at 10am on October 9th to buy one & celebrate my 12-month anniversary. To be honest, I don't really like either the Nexus One or the Evo. The hypothetical phone I really want is an "Incredible" that's rooted and can take a minimally-tweaked N1 ROM almost straight from git and flash without drama. Then I could have my hardkeys, trackball, 850x480 display, enjoy SenseUI for now, but freely ditch it for NexusLand the moment I feel like it's getting in the way and limiting my upgrade options.
4G would be nice, but as it stands I barely have usable data service inside my house (if I disable 'hybrid' and try to force EV-DO, it flat-out doesn't work about 20% of the time, and is unreliable another 20-30%). Assuming WiMax propagation & signals are on par with Sprint's CDMA2000 service, I have every reason to suspect that my neighborhood will be as "urban fringe" for 4G as it is for EV-DO.
(edit)Actually, I take that back. I think part of my problem is the fact that my house shares a Sprint tower with a major regional mall 2 blocks away. Late at night, and in the middle of the afternoon on most weekdays, EV-DO works fairly well. But 4-9pm, and weekends... (((shudder))).
I plan to buy the EVO the day it hits the market. My Hero isn't eligible for the upgrade until December, but my wife and daughter are due April 1. I plan to have one of them delay upgrading so I can use their upgrade to get the EVO, then give them my Hero.
This is one nice benefit of having a plan with 5 phones. I usually have a phone ready for upgrade every 4 months or so.
Not me, I think it sucks.
Ohhh, I almost kept a straight face on that!
I live in Austin, which is crawling with WIMAX. I have been wanting a higher res vid cam. I kept playing with the HD demo here at the GDGT party a week ago (which has a similar sized screen). I've been seriously eyeing the Sprint Overdrive myfi hotspot. HDMI output??? Hello!!
There are just too many things that this phone has that I want. I am not rich but will be getting it even if I have to work nights to save up for it!
I'll be dropping it on my employee line ASAP. Hopefully they won't restrict it on us.
i wont give a shizz if my hero its able to upgrade or anything ill get it no matter what
Will you move to the EVO sub-forum with questions regarding a phone that's not labeled in this sub-forum when it is released?? (which was created 12 hours ago, and before this post?)
lol.. just playing
Since no large screen keyboard devices are coming ill most likely grab the evo.
What i really wanna know is if the great dev support we got for our heroes will be making the move to the EVO?
Flipz? Darch? Toast? etc?
I know Gbhil mentioned he will be switching between the Evo and the Hero due to size.
ill pass on it tbh...the thing is huge and i won't use half of the features. besides the fact i bet the price tag will be about $600+ without an upgrade fee applied.
im moving to the nexus.
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im moving to the nexus.
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Not being a ****, but have you done research yet?
You've seen the purple hue issues?
You've seen the hardware issues?(albeit 99% fixed)
Make sure you like this phone please... Try the **** out of it for your 7 days...
I just got my Hero less than 2 months ago, so I'll stick with it until upgrade time, by then they should have even more killer phones avail
I just wanted to know how many of us are moving to the evo and is there an exact date on when that bad boy is coming out? I hate to say goodbye to my hero I never learned how to cook my own rom for it lol
I will certainly be moving, we need more horsepower! The latest I've heard was "Summer 2010" with another person saying possibly late June.. but that's 100% speculation.
yeah we do need more horse power, im gonna miss my hero
My wife is dying to get rid of her palm pre so once the evo comes out I'll be switching to it and she is gladly **** canning her pre for my hero. I love my phone but it's android I love not the hero. Huge screen, fast processor, 720p video etc... No way I can pass that up.
I will be moving on to the EVO when my upgrade comes on August. My wife, like Aridon's wife, will also be tossing her PRE (thank god) to switch to the EVO.
yea my hubby is all about the EVO and he has a blackberry. He was going to breakdown and by the Moment, since I have the Hero, but when he heard about the EVO, thats all he can talk about! I'll probably get one next year. Ive invested waay too much time in my Hero to just chuck it! lol
yes i know what you mean i also invested alot of time in this hero, what pisses me off the most is phones get out dated so fast, right when the hero launches they are already talking about a new phone, then we sign a two year agreement so we cant get another good discount on the new phone, which therefore we must buy full price, its a brilliant marketing scheme, ugh i hate sprint
eBaying the hero and buying an evo.
The rumored release dates are June 6th and June 13th. I am definitely going to be getting it day one. Hopefully Sprint lets you pre-order so it isn't sold out like the Incredible.
I've already started my Evo savings fund. I love my hero, but the Evo brings so much more to the game.
im not going to get the evo. My upgrade wont be in until October of next year and the phone itself looks kinda bulky. I just hope that when the evo comes out the development of the hero doesn't die.
I hope that I am able to stand by my initial "I'll buy it once it has Root" - But I am starting to feel the pressure. damn you all and your peer pressure!!!
Demoyo23 said:
yes i know what you mean i also invested alot of time in this hero, what pisses me off the most is phones get out dated so fast, right when the hero launches they are already talking about a new phone, then we sign a two year agreement so we cant get another good discount on the new phone, which therefore we must buy full price, its a brilliant marketing scheme, ugh i hate sprint
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Actually if you are on a 69.99 or higher individual plan or you are the main line on a 99.99 or higher family plan you get an upgrade every 12 months. You didn't know that?
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I will be moving on to the EVO when my upgrade comes on August. My wife, like Aridon's wife, will also be tossing her PRE (thank god) to switch to the EVO.
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Wow, I am in the exact same boat, my wife likes the idea of the Pre but hates the battery life, how it just stops getting emails and txts, it struggles to get a good internet connection, etc. She is eligible for an upgrade so I think I will get the EVO for me and give her my Hero.
Aside from Sprint's 4G, the Evo will be outdated immediately when it comes out.
Android 2.2 Froyo will be out. And we know we have to wait up to a year to get it updated.
And snapdragon?? Oh please! We are getting 2 dual core 1 ghz processors with significantly better graphics with the Tegra 2. Heck, even Apple will release their weControlPhone 4th Generation with their A4 chip, which is nearly a Tegra 2, supposedly with dual core 700mhz-1ghz depending on who you believe and a much better gpu too, although half the capabilities of the Tegra 2.
My next phone will have to be Tegra 2 or better.
It's sad, but Sprint dropped the ball yet again on getting their good phones out quick enough. If Evo is released like last week, then *maybe* the Evo will be any good. But June??? It's a piece of outdated crap aside from the 4G, which I do not get in my neighborhood.
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Actually if you are on a 69.99 or higher individual plan or you are the main line on a 99.99 or higher family plan you get an upgrade every 12 months. You didn't know that?
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doesnt apply to me, i left tmobile to get the hero because i wanted it so bad and i was let down by the end product, it could have been way better, i mean with the design and all, and the dust under the screen etc, sprint rushed this phone to compete because at the time they had no android phones, see what happens when you rush. and i got my contract when the hero launched, so my year is next year, by the time a have an upgrade there will be phones chips in our brains...............and evo will be obsolete for me.
The rumors I have heard about the Evo launch all center around the dates of June 6th or June 13th as the most likely possible launch dates.
Not entirely speculation, but def not written in stone.
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Aside from Sprint's 4G, the Evo will be outdated immediately when it comes out.
Android 2.2 Froyo will be out. And we know we have to wait up to a year to get it updated.
And snapdragon?? Oh please! We are getting 2 dual core 1 ghz processors with significantly better graphics with the Tegra 2. Heck, even Apple will release their weControlPhone 4th Generation with their A4 chip, which is nearly a Tegra 2, supposedly with dual core 700mhz-1ghz depending on who you believe and a much better gpu too, although half the capabilities of the Tegra 2.
My next phone will have to be Tegra 2 or better.
It's sad, but Sprint dropped the ball yet again on getting their good phones out quick enough. If Evo is released like last week, then *maybe* the Evo will be any good. But June??? It's a piece of outdated crap aside from the 4G, which I do not get in my neighborhood.
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Dude really now... Name one phone with Tegra 2 coming out this summer for anybody, with 2 cameras, 4G, 8MP camera with dual LED & acts as a WiFi hotspot for up to 8 Devices with HDMI capability?
Not seeing anything getting outdated on the EVO. Plus this is XDA-devs, who here waits for updates anymore?
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Wow, I am in the exact same boat, my wife likes the idea of the Pre but hates the battery life, how it just stops getting emails and txts, it struggles to get a good internet connection, etc. She is eligible for an upgrade so I think I will get the EVO for me and give her my Hero.
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Be careful doing this, if the phone isn't activated on the line it was purchased for, you usually don't get the MIR if bought through Sprint.
Just a warning.
I'm getting the Evo really excited. I hate the random lags I sometimes get on the Hero, and the blasting speed of the Evo will take care of that for sure.
What's weird is I upgraded my phone to the Hero in February, but for some reason on Sprint.com it still says I'm eligible for a complete phone upgrade..? (I guess they never incorporated my purchase as a phone upgrade... sweeeet)
I want the EVO and will likely get it right away, but early adopters always get burned, I'm thinking of waiting a little bit to see what people think about the evo, then maybe get it.
What about you?
preorder
early hopefully.
Why would you wait to see what people think of it? Who cares what they think Phones are subjective anyways.
I am getting one the day it lets me. Pre-order.
I hope it does come with Froyo instead of Eclair that would be bonus!
If you don't end liking it you can always return it. I'll most likely try pre ordering it so I can have it day one but if that doesn't work out because of supply constraints it won't be a big deal.
If the next iPhone has a dual core processor, I won't be getting the Evo.
That being said, I won't be getting the iPhone either. In such a case, I'll simply wait until HTC fires back with a dual-core phone of their own.
Otherwise, I'll be getting the Evo shortly after launch.
Yea, I'm waiting to see what Apple is releasing for sure before I buy the EVO. From the leaks though I think I'm pretty much settled. It's only a 2 year thing... There will always be a bigger and better phone a month away but I feel like the EVO will be powerful enough to keep me happy for the extent of my contract.
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Yea, I'm waiting to see what Apple is releasing for sure before I buy the EVO. From the leaks though I think I'm pretty much settled. It's only a 2 year thing... There will always be a bigger and better phone a month away but I feel like the EVO will be powerful enough to keep me happy for the extent of my contract.
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Here's a nice bit of information for you; if you get the Unlimited Data or Simply Everything plan with Sprint for your two year contract, which you probably would, considering smartphones eat up a fair amount of data, you become a Sprint Premier member. This grants you several perks, one of the most significant ones being that you're allowed to upgrade your phone after a year, halfway into your contract. That means you'll be able to have two phones throughout the length of your two-year contract .
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Here's a nice bit of information for you; if you get the Unlimited Data or Simply Everything plan with Sprint for your two year contract, which you probably would, considering smartphones eat up a fair amount of data, you become a Sprint Premier member. This grants you several perks, one of the most significant ones being that you're allowed to upgrade your phone after a year, halfway into your contract. That means you'll be able to have two phones throughout the length of your two-year contract .
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Even more of a reason to just get the EVO now! Haha. If someone else waits 6 months for the next phone to come out, 6 months after them I'll have an even better one.
Thinking about it...but not unless it is released with 2.2...which does not seem to be the case as of now.
I can't afford to wait 6 months for Sprint to release an update....
AOSP?
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Thinking about it...but not unless it is released with 2.2...which does not seem to be the case as of now.
I can't afford to wait 6 months for Sprint to release an update....
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Would it be possible to build an AOSP build just off the source? Thereby bypassing the need for sprint to release an update...
I know many people are curious as to the new Iphone 4(whatever) but the problem that I see with it is that a Dual Processor won't draw me to it. A higher resolution screen isn't that big of a deal. You mean the pictures are good enough for a phone now? They are already very good. So a few more pixels on the same size screen is my problem. If they had a 4.0/4.1 inch screen then it would be a contender as I have an upgrade path for the Iphone now. Unless a surprise announcement happens and the Iphone 4 has a larger screen the processing power will not attract me as the Snapdragon is very good at the moment. I don't play games with it so the Dual processor won't be a big thing either. I know what the TFT screen looks like and its very nice with sharp contrasts and good colors. The reviews for the HD2 has proven that. I had the HD2 as well so i know first hand.
I will probably buy my phone outright due to the fact that by years end there will be a LOT of choices! Dell has some pretty nice devices coming out, I am sure HP will release WebOS based phones, HD3 most likely will arrive with WP7 and Froyo will be tweaked by then.
I am sure someone will come out something that will bring the 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz or something by then.
Lots of great stuff coming down the pipe though. I hope that Sprint's coverage does it for me and that Clear will continue to gain popularity before LTE.
I read that Clear can change their networks over to LTE if they needed to with software updates. The hardware is compatible. I wonder what it would take for the 4G in the Sprint phones to accept LTE. Hopefully software updates.
It reminds me of the Bluray vs HD-DVD. Hate to see LTE take over it all. But if its compatible with upgrades then I am onboard
I wanz A Evo 4g!!!!! Day one!!
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Thinking about it...but not unless it is released with 2.2...which does not seem to be the case as of now.
I can't afford to wait 6 months for Sprint to release an update....
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Not flaming, but this cracks me up. You "can't afford to wait 6 months for Sprint to release an update" to a handset that isn't even out yet? Does the potential lack of an update to 2.2 hinder your ability to do anything that you are able to afford to do now, or is it simply because you just don't like to wait for things to come?
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Would it be possible to build an AOSP build just off the source? Thereby bypassing the need for sprint to release an update...
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with root access + kernel source from htc it would be completely plausible. Will it happen? Probably eventually.
The HTC Incredible source is already released so things are looking positive. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
http://developer.htc.com/
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That being said, I won't be getting the iPhone either. In such a case, I'll simply wait until HTC fires back with a dual-core phone of their own.
Otherwise, I'll be getting the Evo shortly after launch.
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I guess you haven't heard of the dual-core HTC Scorpion then, huh?
http://www.itproportal.com/portal/n...ice-sport-dual-core-15ghz-qualcomm-processor/
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I guess you haven't heard of the dual-core HTC Scorpion then, huh?
http://www.itproportal.com/portal/n...ice-sport-dual-core-15ghz-qualcomm-processor/
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How much faster do we want these things to go? For gamers okay maybe but who wants to play games on a 4.3" screen? Well not me at least.
If the phone is as fast as my incredible or a little faster with Froyo which it seems that it should be with the improvements mentioned already then it will suffice.
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Not flaming, but this cracks me up. You "can't afford to wait 6 months for Sprint to release an update" to a handset that isn't even out yet? Does the potential lack of an update to 2.2 hinder your ability to do anything that you are able to afford to do now, or is it simply because you just don't like to wait for things to come?
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Looks at Sprint's update rate on existing Android phones they have...
2.1 is out for about say 6 months now? all their phone are still running 1.5 and 1.6 and the update delays keep coming.
2.2 will bring flash 10.1 to the game which is going to completely change the game for me, if Sprint is not going to release this phone with 2.2 out the door, you won't see an update for at least 3-4 months as this is how HTC and Sprint operates (and in fact most OEMs). Once they release a phone to the market they start working on the next thing and releasing updates for phones that are already on the market and are getting old with every day that passes becomes super low priority for them.
I have the N1 now and the only thing i want form the EVO is the 4.3'' screen. but i am not sure if i can switch in return for super slow / no software updates.
I certainly hope they plan on releasing it with 2.2 out the door as Google is about to announce 2.2 this month.
pre ordered mine last week
i had sold my nexus one n dropped tmobile n grabbed a hero to use til i get my evo i happened to be at radio shack wen i got the email bout the pre order. so i pre ordered the evo b4 the ppl at "the shack" even heard about it so i was told im the first one on the list in massachussetts i cant wait it kinda sucks goin from my nexus to the hero but its all worth it for the evo and the 4g network the last i heard it was gna be released on the 6th at 200 i hope thats true i cant wait
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How much faster do we want these things to go? For gamers okay maybe but who wants to play games on a 4.3" screen? Well not me at least.
If the phone is as fast as my incredible or a little faster with Froyo which it seems that it should be with the improvements mentioned already then it will suffice.
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Phones can always go faster. It's just like people who like fast cars, except better, because we actually get more functionality out of the phones the more powerful they become.
In ten to twenty years, there WILL be phone applications that will have people wondering 'How in the hell did people live with single core 1 GHz processors on their phones?! That's ridiculous!'
Right away
I am definitely getting the EVO right away, but then I will regret it in 9 months when the new phone comes out on sprint or we are still waiting for FroYo... oh well......
For my Sprint 30 day guarantee. Tomorrow is the last day I can return my Evo and walk away without a termination fee. Im coming from Tmobile and have used just about all their phones and all iphones, and the Evo holds its own. I love the screen size, and its build quality. But the main thing ive liked is the 3g coverage, its no where near as fast as Tmobile in my area, but i do alot of highway driving and get 1mb plus everywhere. With Tmobile once i started getting away from the city it would drop to edge. I guess ill go play with tmobiles new Mytouch 4g and make my decision there. I just sold the g2 i had which i hated, but I still own my Vibrant and iphone 4 so i could always go back.
But so far what I Like:
Screen size!!!!!
Build quality!
Dual Flash
3g Coverage
Development support.
What I dont like:
Super amoled looks wayy better.
3g is slower but still fine (Evo= 1mb+ to Vibrant=5mb downloads)
Graphics Suck. Live wallpaper slows it down, and 3d gaming is barely playable
Sprints Customer service is no where near as good as Tmobiles.
Oh yeah after a talk with sprints retention departmnet, They waived my actication fee, and provided me with a credit of $50 since I mentioned the Evo could be acquired online for $150, just in order to keep my service. And right at the end when I mentioned I would continue to think about it, the rep offered me a $10 credit every month for the rest of the contract (24months). This would kick in on my next billing cycle.
My 27% discount would also kick in next bill, making my total bill $50 plus tax which is still a little more than if id return to tmobile
Kinda hard to argue with those discounts, not a bad deal right there.
But I can't understand how you like AMOLED screens more, YUCK! They always look odd to me, too blue or too vibrant and kind of pixel-y? They are more readable in some situations but still I think they look awful.
Not gonna lie... i really like the new myTouch. I am a fan of sense... also, hspa+ rocks in my area, and gsm is easier on battery than cdma. Add to that our wimax radios... lol, still love my evo though...
Is say they earned your business, man that makes me think I need to complain more..lol
The ten dollars off every month would more then compensate for the cost of the phone its self.
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After having the Evo I just dont see how i can ever own anything smaller than a 4.3in screen. Ill more than likely stick with The evo untill sprint or another carrier releases a highend 4.3in that isnt lock down. I do love the phone, just wished it could handle graphics better.
With the discounts im getting and the coolness of the Evo ill probably stick to Sprint for now unless the mytouch4g blows me away, which at 3.8in I dont think it will.
Now the Nexus S/2 could be interesting.
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed by mod--
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed--.
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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First off, nothing wrong with having all the latest and greatest phones out, it's by far the best way to find out which phone you personally like best. If I could afford it I'd do it too.
Second, evo is hardly the winner. All phones have their downfalls and can be considered better than others in their own right.
My nexus can be considered better than your evo for a number of reasons.
1. Google owns android. Nexus is google's baby. It is also a developers phone.when android releases froyo, gingerbread, etc. who is the first to get it? Me. Have fun waiting months for yours to update, or for some samsung owners, possibly never.
2. I'm hitting 60 fps, enjoy your 30 fps. You may have a bigger screen but can't fully enjoy it. Playing 3d games on the evo is atrocious.
3. Sprints 4g service had been highly touted this I know. But recent testing done by cnet, which I consider highly reliable and non bias; shows in NY sprints 4g getting 2-3mb whereas tmobiles hspa+ getting 5-6mb and it's not even considered true 4g lol but it doubled sprints. Now of course mileage will very.
Don't get me wrong, evo is a great phone. it's like having a portable theater in your pocket. It took me about three weeks of intense research comparing top phones on all carriers to reach a decision. I was hesitant to get the nexus considering how old it is, released in january. But it still using the same processor as many off the newer phones including evo, the 1ghz snapdragon. Yes your chip has been updated but mines still faster lol. And I like using a developer phone and getting updates before anyone else. Some may consider updates not that big of deal but froyo increased browser speed up to 30%, not something I'd want to wait months for to enjoy.
Oh and I have to say I love the trackball. Comes in handy for selecting text or other tight spots while browsing. I can also have it blink different colors: red for missed text, blue for missed call, green for voicemail, orange for email, purple for low battery, works for notifications as well.
It's nice having all this information without even turning on my phone.
This is officially by far the longest thing I've typed out on my nexus, got to love swype lol.
The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
I actually use the front facing camera a lot. I chat with other evo and iPhone 4 users. Given the ratio its pretty thin. And what's wrong with using the same processor. You want a better processor then go to Samsung galaxy s series. Good luck with the gps on there tho. Humming bird processor blows everyone out of the water. When I mean unlockable I mean the boot loader is not on lock down. And not everyone phone can flash sense, DX or D2 can't. Which are the newer phones comparable to the evo. You were seriously contemplating leaving Sprint to go with t-mobile cause of data speeds in a restricted area. Kinda of ironic cause the only thing that you sound to be proud of on the nexus is the processor speed. Processor speed don't mean **** if you don't got 3G or WiFi connection. Edge sucks on tmo and ill take Sprints 3G even tho I have the same processor as your sexi Nexi.
Scoobasteves: Evo is just as fps unlocked as nexus, that's old news.
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I was happy getting a 23% discount from --evil site removed by mod --
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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Are you in a bad mood man? Geez.
First I never tried driving their price down, I called about possibly porting my number and what the process is. The rep was the one asking questions and was being cool about wanting me to stay. So he offered me a discount.
And yes it's cheaper for me to go back to tmobile even with my 27% sprint discount. We have had a family plan with tmobile for 8 years, so adding my line back would only be $5 and an additional $30 for Internet.
Maybe I do have to much time in my hands, but I've never complained about prices or tried to brag about my phone being the best. I understand there are always new phones coming out and thankfully I have had the ability to try out a lot of them. I just like phones and the evo is among the best I have liked, but far from being a clear cut winner. I'm not one of those guys that think my phone is the best in the world and out down every other phone, i like to try out a lot of different phones if I'm able to, and enjoy it.
I guess I'll just enjoy my Evo and it's awesome screen size.
T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
2 year xda member and finally... reached my 100th post
Yeah I love the Evo probably one of the best phones I have used. I hear people complain that t-mo coverage is not that good in my area so that would be reason alone for me to stick with Sprint.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
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Evo isn't restricted to 30fps anymore either
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Never, they have free mobile to mobile any company, unlimited web and text for great price, sprint rocks
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I was not trying to badger the OP. As a matter of fact I am a former T-mo customer and was very happy with it.
Is the reason your plan a T-mo is cheaper because you are on a family plan there and not a family plan at Sprint? If thats the case then its apples to oranges.
To the Nexus Guy. It was a very good phone and I was seriously considering it when it finally became available on a plan rate. But that didn't happen till AFTER the Evo came out. I was on the phone with T-mo monthly to find out when that would happen. They could never give me an answer. So I took the plunge and got the EVO and never looked back.
T-mo's HSPA in my area is garbage. Seven guys I work (in Tampa) with have the Galaxy, and all of them claim 2-4Mbps. I get regularly 6.5Mbps. It may get better, but it isn't right now.
Processor? Seriously dude? if thats all you got with the Nexus, then you need to sit down. Developers phone? Seriously? Ever heard of Root? Oh yeah... all of T-mo's new phones are getting lock down. FPS? Spend more time on XDA preeze. Sprint unlocked it about 2 months ago. XDA did it even longer.
Nexus is a beautiful thing. But I am sorry, it is inferior to the EVO in about every possible way.
The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
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At least you have a 3GS. Do you know how horrible it is go from a fast, 1ghz phone, to a phone that's 400mhz with 128mb ram? Plus it's JB, so it's even slower.
I'm curious about iphone 5 as well, but it's going to take more than hardware to bring me back. I had an iPhone 4, and the antenna sucked. Also, I'm super bored with the OS. If the OS gets a major overhaul and the phone is better, I'll probably get it.
There is also the rumor about the HTC Revolver coming around Q3. Dual core, Android 3.0 (my guess is 2.4).
I'm actually really thinking about switching to VZW for the Tbolt. Except I hate VZW and have had a much more positive experience on AT&T. Except, at the current moment, they're only the 3rd fastest in Phoenix. Tmo and VZW LTE are faster.
Decisions... Decisions...
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Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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+1... Really need both when I travel...
i was thinking of returning mine because of the 2gb cap but i doubt i will
and since im able to get a steady connection from att and one that is fast and not bad like sprint and tmo it.
i believe that att and moto will push out the updates soon
its not like it samsung or sprint
I'll likely return mine. And too bad I sold my AT&T N1 today.
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The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
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Isn't the HSUPA+ of the Atrix is not compatible with the AT&T tower yet unless they turn the HSPA+ on?
I'm confused. Motorola is working on Skype compatibility now.
i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275
Not a chance.
I'm building linux (ubuntu) boxes as often as I can and to have a phone of the same ilk is quite nice. One that is this fast is quite the bonus.
Phone carrying corps won't do anything unless we vote no with our dollars. I know I'm not doing it. Switching to another company still shows you are hooked.
iphones are boring. Edit: Great designs, beautiful methodologies. Still, boring bar the eye candy.
I have 10 more days to decide. I'm really on the fence still. On one hand the hardware is amazing and blazing fast. Friends and family wow at the tegra hd games, hdmi webdock with out using the official moto dock, and the snappiness of the OS is great (granted its rooted, frozen and better optimized than stock form.) Also, the hope that the bootloader will be open in the future and custom roms made for it are a big wait and keep it flag for me. But on the other hand moto has left a bad taste in my mouth with the locked bootloader, and so has at&t with the HSUPA fiasco. But then I have to also hope that a more powerful or as powerful "community friendly phone" will be out soon as well, because anything else up till now doesn't boast this kind of hardware and speed in MY experience..... Decisions.
I already returned mine. Motorola made such an awesome phone and then teamed up with AT&T to completely cripple it! I fully trust AT&T will do everything they can to SCREW Atrix buyers. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
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There isn't a chance in hell apple does anything but incremental upgrades.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Everyone will still buy it. The iPhone 4 was an extremely large jump, this will be a nice step forward.
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i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275
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