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Hi Guys,
I have a fairly standard (a few basic tweaks here and tere) Touch HD and when I got it I removed the two demo tracks from it via the Music screen. I created a folder on my SD card called "Music" and loaded up a couple of music albums using direct transfer (ie not ActivSych). I then pointed the Music screen at the SD card, it did a search found the albums and listed them including the album cover artwork.
A few days later I decided to change the albums and deleted the two original albums I had previously loaded in favour of two more (by the same artist). The problem I have is that in the track list I can still see the tracks from the original 2 albums I loaded and where the cover artwork should be there is now a grey box with an exclaimation mark (!) in it. When i flick through the tracks on the "Playing Now" screen it passes over the no longer available tracks and skips to the next available track.
I'm assuming that the current track list is held somewhere in an xml file and that it hasn't update properly.
It could also be that I'm pointing to the SD card, where was the location of the original two demo tracks??
Any help appreciated..........
try taking the memory card out while you are in the tf3d music screen and then plug it back in. that should force it to update it's database. the two demotracks are stored in Device: My Documents : My Music
but once after a hard reset i saw them in Device: My Documents : MUSIC .. but anyway try taking the card out and see what happens
Thanks for a quick reply.
Since I posted I removed all music from the SD and now the "Music" screen just says "Searching". However if I go into the Library the original tracks are still listed and are still missing their album art. Obviously the dont play.
I have just removed the SD as suggested and done a soft reset using the button and.....They're still there exactly as described above....GGrrrrr.
Isn't it funny how the smallest thing can drive you NUTS....!!!!
i know i'd be annoyed if something i deleted stays there and stares right at my face lol i feel you man but i have no idea what to do other than taking the card out and plugging it back in while in the musicscreen. that did work for me once.. wait till someone more experienced than i am shows up cause you're not going to like my backup solution to this problem lol
did anyone find a fix for when you are in the song List and when you try to scroll the songs disappears?
inspireme87 said:
........ cause you're not going to like my backup solution to this problem lol
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Hard reset.....NNNooooo !!!!!
I'm tempted......but only when frustrated by the whole thing.
Somewhere out there a Touch HD Guru is waiting to enlighten me (hopefully)/
I had similar issue with my device - Only "Searching" was displayed on the "Music" screen.
I got over it by deleting the following file: My Device\Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng. Then it recreated whole database from scratch.
MKo_1 you are a SUPERSTAR...!!!!!!
Deleted the file as suggested and all those nasty old files with there nasty old grey boxes have gone.
Days of frustration and pulling my hair out have all now been washed away in a haze of heady excitement.
All I can say is thank goodness for XDA Developers and especially MKo_1.
Long Live The Blackstone
WaveyKat said:
did anyone find a fix for when you are in the song List and when you try to scroll the songs disappears?
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We're already having a thread on this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463692&highlight=music+player+problem&page=3
But: there still isn't any solution...
MKo_1 said:
I had similar issue with my device - Only "Searching" was displayed on the "Music" screen.
I got over it by deleting the following file: My Device\Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng. Then it recreated whole database from scratch.
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Thanks MKo_1 !
You solved my problem too !
You can fix the Artist lists etc not showing by flashing to a new custom rom - all of the new manila roms I have tried have solved this problem. I guess it just depends as to whether or not you want to flash your rom
I get the "searching...." problem in music player too. I tried to delete the file referenced but it won't let me. Just to confirm is it the directory named audioManager_Eng or the file of the same name with a .vol suffix? I tried both..... It managed to delete playlist for the directory but not the directory.
Well, i think alot of ppl know this problem. The music player in sense sometimes has a lag, every 20-30 seconds, a short pause, then music resumes... alot of solutions are suggested, like soft reset, format SD card, organizing your music into smaller folders, putting all your music in ONE folder (?), applying the official HTC hotfix, and more...
None of these solutions help me. This problem started a couple days ago after a hard reset. It only (as far as i can tell) occurs when the screen is locked..
If anyone has a solid fix for this, please, share it.
I have looked up and down these forums, with alotta different results, and most of the threads are a couple months old... and no real solutions.
So, if you know what the deal is, elighten me... this is driving me crazy.
Thanks
htc has released a fix 27'th of april - the issue you mention is handle via that fix.
Update for HTC HD2 Music Stability:
Kindly
maybe u could also use another player instead of the sense player..
i like the pocketplayer more.. it has so much more settings, so much better quality thanks to the many settings u can do and i just love the library design when u browse through ur music
maybe u should try that too
Kwasmir said:
htc has released a fix 27'th of april - the issue you mention is handle via that fix.
Update for HTC HD2 Music Stability:
Kindly
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I tried this fix... it doesnt help..
What i did just try, is to disable in CHT, the option to turn phone off when sleeping, and reverted to the standard lockscreen... thats seems to have helped for the moment, although, before the hard reset, these options where enabled. not thouroughly tested though, because i am at work and i only have time in my breaks!
i'll try these two separatley now, and see what happens...
I would like to just use the sense player, its simple and looks nice (with GTX theme for Sense), plus i dont want to have to go to a third party app evertime i wanna listen to music!
Im on that wagon too - only to use Sense Player.
I have been through quite a few tests to get rid of the frequently stop and go in the player.
Before the hotfix from htc.com I mentioned - I came to the conclusion that to prevent the stop issue you have to to let the device go to sleep from the menu where you can 'Turn off Device' (opos up after holding power button) - Dont click turn of as it wil result in glitches ... but let the device go to sleep by it self.
After the fix ... I can just press power off instantly without having the glitches.
Kindly
I've got the fix and it didn't fix the issue for me.
Here is how to fix it.
airwater9 said:
I've got the fix and it didn't fix the issue for me.
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1. Transfer all your music from your phone to the PC(make folder "Music" and put it there.
2. Delete the folder containg your music files on your phone.
3. Start your Windows Media Player on your PC and sync your HD2.
4. Drag the "Music" folder to the sync folder of the WMPlayer on your PC(you can add as much files as you want in this folder before to sync it or after for the next sync)
5. Leave it to finish. Once it's done, disconnect your phone and it will fly like a rocket with both sense and wmobile player!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY REG TRIKS FOR THIS! I BET IT WILL WORK FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU!
Good luck and share your opinion.
My HD2 Doesn't Know from PC...
My Leo has never met a PC (meaning I have no computer and have never active synched), would this patch be effective via the device and storage card alone? I've read through the forums and tried a number of tips but I think we all continue to suffer from less then stellar performance by Sense Player. -No?
NYCspeedSurfer said:
My Leo has never met a PC (meaning I have no computer and have never active synched), would this patch be effective via the device and storage card alone? I've read through the forums and tried a number of tips but I think we all continue to suffer from less then stellar performance by Sense Player. -No?
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Well... for me installing the hotfix only didn't change the things at all. But syncing as showed above helped 100%.
teddy_irish said:
1. Transfer all your music from your phone to the PC(make folder "Music" and put it there.
2. Delete the folder containg your music files on your phone.
3. Start your Windows Media Player on your PC and sync your HD2.
4. Drag the "Music" folder to the sync folder of the WMPlayer on your PC(you can add as much files as you want in this folder before to sync it or after for the next sync)
5. Leave it to finish. Once it's done, disconnect your phone and it will fly like a rocket with both sense and wmobile player!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY REG TRIKS FOR THIS! I BET IT WILL WORK FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU!
Good luck and share your opinion.
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This guy is a genius it solved the problem for me. thank you so much for ending that frustration
teddy_irish said:
1. Transfer all your music from your phone to the PC(make folder "Music" and put it there.
2. Delete the folder containg your music files on your phone.
3. Start your Windows Media Player on your PC and sync your HD2.
4. Drag the "Music" folder to the sync folder of the WMPlayer on your PC(you can add as much files as you want in this folder before to sync it or after for the next sync)
5. Leave it to finish. Once it's done, disconnect your phone and it will fly like a rocket with both sense and wmobile player!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY REG TRIKS FOR THIS! I BET IT WILL WORK FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU!
Good luck and share your opinion.
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im having the same problem but my music is in my Micro SD Card!!! will this still work???
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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You flashed HSPL, but not a new rom?
I would start by putting just one or two mp3's on your phone's onboard storage, then pulling the card out, soft-resetting, and then seeing if your music tab finds and is able to play those couple of mp3's without locking up.
If it works fine then, you're probably experiencing the same issue many HD2 owners have been dealing with when accessing a large volume of files on the SD card. There's a number of suspected causes, mainly relating to the fact that the music (and documents) tab(s) index the whole contents of the card to find and catalog those types of files for quick use in the tabs. Therefore, a large number of files on the card seem to bog down not just those tabs but often the whole phone.
Another cause is believed to be the fact the factory card shipped with the HD2 is only a class-2 card, the slowest of all the speed ratings. If you have access to a faster card (class-4, -6, etc), even if it's a smaller size card, try that and see if it improves things any. If not, then your only other option right now is to reduce the number of files on your card until it doesn't lock up when sense tries to index it all. It's rumored that there's an update coming shortly from HTC/Tmobile, and I'm hoping that it might address this issue, but I'm not holding my breath.
I personally believe that the code used to do that indexing just isn't able to scale to the volumes of files seen now in the larger SD cards.
EDIT: Also, if you're not using it, be sure to turn off the "recent documents" tab...I don't know that it will clear up the problems with the music tab, but it can possibly help avoid lagging overall.
I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?
mobi said:
I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?
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I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.
sirphunkee said:
I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.
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Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Ok cool, thank you! I hadn't heard about that one, so I'll go look for it and see if it gives me any insight. Did you have TF3D (the older version of sense) on your Wing, with a music tab? Maybe this is behavior that HTC added to sense at some point, with the same exact intent in mind...
you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab
jfmckenna said:
you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab
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Sweet! Thanks again Jimmy...I'm gonna dig into this when I get home this evening, and poke around in the registry area it changes (HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HTCService).
I'm curious if it just does the same thing as turning off the documents tab, or if turning off the service is a wider-reaching change. Since this is the personal handiwork of NRG, I'll ping him too, but I know he's busy.
there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948
samsamuel said:
there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948
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Hahaha thanks Sam...I JUST finished reading over the same thread LOL Very helpful, and it's given me some further insights into this.
toreone, the first think I noticed common to your problem and the one in the thread samsamuel posted is that your music has a rather deep file structure (4 layers deep). I haven't seen anybody mention that in the troubleshooting, so it might be worth seeing if the same volume of music, but no more than 2 folders deep, still gives the same issue.
Also, in that thread, sammybusse made and posted the cab below, which makes simple registry change related to chacheing: HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS
EnableChache 1 (changed from 0 to 1). So, perhaps the problem stems from the fact that it wasn't chacheing, rather than doing it too aggressively..
I haven't had a chance yet to poke around with it, but I think it's certainly safe enough to try and see if it makes any difference for you (it helped some people in that thread).
Another solution tried there, that had some level of success, was making sure you don't have any of the mp3's set as "read only"
toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.
mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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Try to sync your music with Windows Media Player. This worked for me.
Nibbley15 said:
Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.
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Nibbley, when I did this, for some reason the file would only be renamed as AudioManager_Eng.lnk.exe. And once you do it, you can't seem to delete the file. Just a heads up.
do you have a more detailed way for doing this?
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do you have a more detailed way for doing this?
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Here you go I created a shortcut and made a cab to put it in start up. Let me know how it works
before reading further, try this first. it resolved mine:
"Go to Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng, delete "AudioManager_Eng.vol and make a soft reset."
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I'm out of ideas.
I have a kingston 8gb micro sd "HC 4" card in my hd2
(rom 1.66.404.1 (76641) NLD).
the little wheel in the upper left corner of the music player tab keeps turning and nothing plays.
I've tried formatting my memcard, I've tried reducing the number of songs in the music folder.
I tried putting only around 20 songs in the main music folder (thinking putting the music in folder within another folder may cause the prob) but to no use.
and yes I did use the "music stability hotAIR"
complete waste of time. didnt help a thing.
Nitrogen plays my mp3s with no probs. I'm trying to get the native music player working coz I can't control nitro with my wireless headphones. controlling the volume works but not skipping beween songs.
is anybody else experiencing this? any suggestions?
I have the same problem. I get an error msg, something about AudioManager_eng i believe. please can someone help.
Go to Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng, delete "AudioManager_Eng.vol and make a soft reset.
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Go to Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng, delete "AudioManager_Eng.vol and make a soft reset.
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hmh... sounds like quite a drastic measure. isnt it a good idea to cut and move it to a different location temporarliy?
in any case thats what i'll be doing and i suggest to others the same.
thanx for taking the time fighter!
You don't have to backup file. System will create a new one, after deleting.
HOLY COWS!! two months of searching, dozens of correspondence with HTCs (extreme slo-mo tec support), after banging my head against the walls and biting on my hd2, fighter comes along and says "naahh, do this, it will work" AND IT DOES!!
god danm, if i knew i'd travel to Greece to get this solution.
thanx very very much FIGHTER! how many times can I click on the thanx button?... oh, uh.. it's gone
hi, i've just got my iconia and I am also new on the Android world. A couple of things I've noticed about the external SD card that maybe somebody could help me to understand.
1.- when I hook my tablet to my windows 7 laptop, I get to see the internal memory on the win explorer but not the external card, so is this normal or do I have to look for more updated drivers on my PC?
2.- with the external SD card on I get to see my files on an android file manager and I get to open any file individually by getting the "select app for opening this file", but this is time consuming so I am wondering if my stock lumiread, gallery, multimedia player have the current limitation of only reading the content from the internal memory. If so, what free alternatives do I have to replace stock apps?
A couple of answers
First, if you install File Manager HD, you won't need to tether your Iconia to your laptop any more. In the app, open the 'menu' and touch 'LAN Connections'. Your Windows PC will show up as an IP address. Make sure to change the IP Address to a computer name (long press, rename) so that next time File Manager won't have to search for it every time. You will be able to transfer anything on the tab to the 'Public' folder on the PC, and vice versa. Depending on what folders are shared on the PC, you will be able to access more on the PC.
I keep my music on my external SD card in a folder named 'My Music'. The stock music/multimedia players found them with no problem.
I haven't tried moving any books for Lumiread to the external SD card, so all I can suggest is to look at the file structure and duplicate it on the ext SD card, copy a book into it (a new one, or move an existing one) and see if it finds it. I don't see anything within the app to set search/storage directories, but maybe it will scan everything like the music apps do.
Have fun with you new Tab. The more you play with it the more you will understand Honeycomb and it won't seem so foreign to you. It does pretty much everything every other OS does, just a little different way.
Kp
Thanks Ken, I downloaded FMHD and will try it soon. I also though about reproducing the lumiread folder on the ext sd card but no luck, so probably a future update on the app will fix that. I tried this as well copying the pictures folder (and also renaming it as 'My Pictures') but the stock gallery just won't see the image files, is there any chance you could see if you get the same results? I have not tried yet on the music stock app. Again, thanks for your help, it is great to find nice people on the web with similar tech passions as I do
Hello Ken, like that app. Wondering if it would be an easy way to tether to my HTC Evo? Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
Bob
Get Quickpic
sensei22 said:
Thanks Ken, I downloaded FMHD and will try it soon. I also though about reproducing the lumiread folder on the ext sd card but no luck, so probably a future update on the app will fix that. I tried this as well copying the pictures folder (and also renaming it as 'My Pictures') but the stock gallery just won't see the image files, is there any chance you could see if you get the same results? I have not tried yet on the music stock app. Again, thanks for your help, it is great to find nice people on the web with similar tech passions as I do
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I use Quickpic from the Market (free) since it lets you choose which drives/directories to scan.
Here is what you do.
1. Create the My Pics directory on the External SD card with File Manager HD, put a few pics in it.
2. After installing Quickpic, start the app. It will display everything it finds on the internal SD Card.
3. Touch the Menu button from the main screen.
4. Choose SETTINGS-INCLUDED FOLDERS-ADD
5. Tap the double dots at the top of the list, it will display all the memory devices attached.
6. Tap EXTERNAL_SD. All directories on the card will be displayed. Press OK.
Now press the 'back' button and you will see your pics that are anywhere on the External SD card.
All I did to get the A500 music player to find the music on the External SD card was run the NemoPlayer app and open the music. Once I did that the regular music app found them, too.
Have fun!
Evo
pov1 said:
Hello Ken, like that app. Wondering if it would be an easy way to tether to my HTC Evo? Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
Bob
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Don't quote me on this, but I don't think so. From what I have seen and heard so far it is only connecting to Windows shares. I don't have an Android phone to test with, so can't swear to it, but I know it doesn't see an iPhone, so likely won't see a Mac either.
Anyone else been able to connect to anything but a Windows share? Let us know if you have, and what app you used please.