[PLEASE CLOSE] Help me! Low RAM! - XPERIA X8 General

Recently i switched from FroyoBread to XGin 5.3. On FroyoBread startup i see 90MB free, but on Xgin about 70. And it can go low as 20. Help me!

do you have a problem when your ram is 20?
I guess not. android already have memory management.
but if u want it, clear your ram with taskkiller, then don't open any application. so ur ram always free as much as u want.

kuyagaol said:
do you have a problem when your ram is 20?
I guess not. android already have memory management.
but if u want it, clear your ram with taskkiller, then don't open any application. so ur ram always free as much as u want.
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Has not been said many times the futility of the task killer on froyo and ginger?

ale.spinelli said:
Has not been said many times the futility of the task killer on froyo and ginger?
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like I said, don't open any program. its not a suggestions...

If you wanna get more free ram use task killer manager from market or editing the lowmemorykiller preference on system
sent from my own custom rom

Use Autokiller.
it´s very professional, it has much settings and it can also kill system apps, because it´s a root app.

I use Advanced Task Manager. And when i reach 20MB ram heavy games close and my phone is 'LITTLE' slower. As far i have about all android stuff, i think the only sulution is to switch to another rom.

codfreak said:
Use Autokiller.
it´s very professional, it has much settings and it can also kill system apps, because it´s a root app.
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Really??? Never heard of it. I give it a try. Tnx To all who waste time for replies.

I think it's better to use Fast Reboot app
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Available Memory

So when im not running anything, when i open Advanced Task Killer it has like 125M is this right???
So what the other 387MB doing?
what I see
when I 1st start I have about 230MB, after a few minutes it goes down to about 90mb...without opening anything...seems many programs on the Samsung "open" by themselves...also, I see that the CPU goes down to about 100Mhz so I keep it at 1000Mhz with setcpu....plus deleted many Samsung apps(about 30MB)...helps with the lag...
Don't worry so much about it. This isn't windows, you don't need to worry about free RAM. Android will kill tasks as needed to free ram when it needs to. Some of that is likely used for disk cache as well. That will also be released as needed. Let the OS do its job, it's quite good at it..
Killing some of the bloatware will help as well, but you need root.
I also think that this phone, like the G1, has some of the speced 512M ram dedicated to the camera, GPU, and other stuff. In the terminal, free shows about 388M as total ram.
is it a good to create a swap partition on the SD card?
Why on earth would you want swap with this much ram? You likely can, with root and swapper, but why? This phone doesn't need it like the G1 did. Swap could help keep more apps open in the background, but there are already a lot of them there. I don't see any benefit to swap right now. What isn't working for you that you think is related to low ram?
ttabbal said:
Why on earth would you want swap with this much ram? You likely can, with root and swapper, but why? This phone doesn't need it like the G1 did. Swap could help keep more apps open in the background, but there are already a lot of them there. I don't see any benefit to swap right now. What isn't working for you that you think is related to low ram?
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Yeah...what he said ^
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As with the nexus one, not all 512mb can be addressed by the system right off the bat; we may need to wait until a newer kernel comes out
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Tips for Desire HD Bulid Users

hey all
here few tips i can share however most of the users will already know them i think
i use the build [build][1.12.2010][beta] desire hd2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
with [Kernel:Hastarin r8.5.3]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
cos this build gives the IOps more then twice better then normal FS
some ppls will say its nothing just tricking the quadrant app
but i can say its help app installation, reduce the boot time
scrolling is smooth even with dir lots of files
about the Kernel the CPU score is around 35 in linpack and in MDJ around 29 or less really duno why
u need just copy over [overwrite ] the new kernel to desire_hd2 dir
and now few tips that may help the build run and boot load fast
i use Titanium Backup to remove stuff i dont use like stocks
the less apps will have the less IOps for the sdcard android will be more respondent
and system panel lite to easily End all the tasks that run to get around 250-280mb ram free i just exclude the useable tasks and kill them all
i cant be sure if the killing apps is helping but its fast and easy to use
thats it, now u should enjoy it
btw if u have something to share too will happy to ...
I already know most of this but it's a very nice of you : ) hope it will help someone!
is it better than mdeejays 4.4 and is it compatible for daily use?
my suggestion is use launcherpro. Its much faster and more responsive than SENSE
denyboy said:
my suggestion is use launcherpro. Its much faster and more responsive than SENSE
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HD2ONE 0.3.4 + LauncherPro works great
You should never kill tasks in Froyo... When you kill a task, it restarts, puts more stress on the cpu and kills battery...
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xdadJeroen said:
is it better than mdeejays 4.4 and is it compatible for daily use?
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its might be if u apply the fixes
i use mostly web wifi and phone so i dont big problem with it
@Cerv3r its not auto kill
just when the memory is full u kill the unneeded apps and ofc the
sense wont reload if u did smart exclude
Cerv3r said:
You should never kill tasks in Froyo... When you kill a task, it restarts, puts more stress on the cpu and kills battery...
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5, Tho shall not kill a task in froyo.
Medeejays HD builds used to be the fastest but ever science the camara fix it really lags a lot
Samsunguy said:
Medeejays HD builds used to be the fastest but ever science the camara fix it really lags a lot
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try it u dont need to format or rename ur corrent android
and then ...

wow...the vibrants ram is crap....

Im running on simply honey 3.5 gingerbread.... I cant even leave the browaer open to go back to check my facebook without comibg back seeng it reload... and i never get more than 150+ free memory... my aunts iphone 3gs has more free ram... and i know that it has 512mb shared but seriously.. Compared to other 512mb phones this is bull****... they get more than 200mb user ram...
Isn't that based on your internet connection, not ram? lol
and misclicked and hit thanks on accident. -_-
No...i cant multitask more than 4 simple apps at a time withought it shutting them off... terrible..
Mine's working just fine to be quite honest..what are these "simple apps" of yours?
Must just be the ROM.
I have facebook, web browser, twitter, engadget, xda, and more multi-tasked on Bi-Winning and they aren't ever closed.
helikido said:
Im running on simply honey 3.5 gingerbread.... I cant even leave the browaer open to go back to check my facebook without comibg back seeng it reload... and i never get more than 150+ free memory... my aunts iphone 3gs has more free ram... and i know that it has 512mb shared but seriously.. Compared to other 512mb phones this is bull****... they get more than 200mb user ram...
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Are you retarded?
Really?
There's so much wrong with your post that I don't even know where to begin. Hence why I ask:
Are you retarded?
Text plus..... facebook... music and web
R u stupid?
all the people who have replied.underatood what i asked PERFECTLY!!
Hence i ask..
r u stupid?
@ruther...
Longcat14 said:
Must just be the ROM.
I have facebook, web browser, twitter, engadget, xda, and more multi-tasked on Bi-Winning and they aren't ever closed.
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Well i dont have problems on 2.2.1 roms but on every ginger rom like asgard and simply honney.... the ram is basicly crap cuz ginger takes like 210mb on startup :/
Its not the rams fault for processes being killed. Its the ROM/ Kernel your on. You don't want processes being killed use less aggressive LMK settings. The ram on the vibrant works perfectly as it should, this is merely a case of your system not being optimized for what you want. So simply....go fix it. Use less aggressive setting for LMK and a kernel with more user ram. But to be honest this thread has been repeated 1billion times over and people just need to get over the fact that Linux/Android IS NOT LIKE WINDOWS...free ram is wasted ram
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Well it's clearly the rom/kernel's fault. Just go back to 2.2 roms if you're facing issues.
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ECOTOX said:
Its not the rams fault for processes being killed. Its the ROM/ Kernel your on. You don't want processes being killed use less aggressive LMK settings. The ram on the vibrant works perfectly as it should, this is merely a case of your system not being optimized for what you want. So simply....go fix it. Use less aggressive setting for LMK and a kernel with more user ram. But to be honest this thread has been repeated 1billion times over and people just need to get over the fact that Linux/Android IS NOT LIKE WINDOWS...free ram is wasted ram
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Thank you for having the patience to write it out. Perfectly put.
also, if youre using a RAM optimization app, that could be doing it as well...
ECOTOX said:
Its not the rams fault for processes being killed. Its the ROM/ Kernel your on. You don't want processes being killed use less aggressive LMK settings. The ram on the vibrant works perfectly as it should, this is merely a case of your system not being optimized for what you want. So simply....go fix it. Use less aggressive setting for LMK and a kernel with more user ram. But to be honest this thread has been repeated 1billion times over and people just need to get over the fact that Linux/Android IS NOT LIKE WINDOWS...free ram is wasted ram
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This. Couldn't have said it any better Eco.
It's a setting you have on which is likely set to "Agrressive" meaning the minute the ROM doesn't think you need an app, it closes it, regardless of RAM. I can run quite a lot of apps simultaneously all the time. Not a RAM problem.
ECOTOX said:
Its not the rams fault for processes being killed. Its the ROM/ Kernel your on. You don't want processes being killed use less aggressive LMK settings. The ram on the vibrant works perfectly as it should, this is merely a case of your system not being optimized for what you want. So simply....go fix it. Use less aggressive setting for LMK and a kernel with more user ram. But to be honest this thread has been repeated 1billion times over and people just need to get over the fact that Linux/Android IS NOT LIKE WINDOWS...free ram is wasted ram
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Yes, +1.... I Also Say thank you to Ecotox for articulating how Android works so well.
Furthermore, 2.3 roms really only face a 2-3 of real issues:
Because of porting and lack of dedicated Vibrant drivers we have too much battery demand/drain.... the lack of GPS because of no source code or drivers.... because of lack of drivers there are a few small hesitations as a result of porting.
But that said, All in All, the developers have done nothing shy of remarkable work getting these ported roms to work nearly perfectly...... their skills is why we have such choices.
Rather than complaining.......... try to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem/noise..........
Thanx everyone... now I understand.
What app is there on the market or anywhere that can have me set the ram from agresive to least agresive cuz I don't think spare parts work.

[Q] RAM manager

Hi,
I looked at my free ram and on daily use I have 1 GB of free ram.
So is there any sens to use ram manger to allow android use more ram (mean to not kill app and has less free ram)?
Unused RAM is wasted RAM (just before anyone else says it )
I have 1.3GB of RAM free on my N4. I wouldn't recommend a 3rd-party RAM manager, and just trust Android to handle it
Unrelated, but I have some weird memory leak issue on my N10 that basically causes all RAM to be taken up by something eventually, and all apps end up Restarting. Quite annoying, but the only thing I can do in this situation is reboot the tablet. Can't say I've seen or heard of this on the N4.
espionage724 said:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM (just before anyone else says it )
I have 1.3GB of RAM free on my N4. I wouldn't recommend a 3rd-party RAM manager, and just trust Android to handle it
Unrelated, but I have some weird memory leak issue on my N10 that basically causes all RAM to be taken up by something eventually, and all apps end up Restarting. Quite annoying, but the only thing I can do in this situation is reboot the tablet. Can't say I've seen or heard of this on the N4.
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i cant say i like the way android does it, even though it does do it. i use greenify, and autostarts to prevent apps from starting in the background. also, i change the numbers to androids ram management. now im happy
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
atomic339 said:
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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ive never noticed that its slowed.
atomic339 said:
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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If you have widgets on your lock screen or on your home screen they will use up ram. Uninstall any apps you rarely use to free up ram.
Don't see why you're worried. You have as much FREE ram as an s3 does on the box
On a more serious note, I doubt you'll see any difference by freeing up ram. 500-600 mb of free ram = smooth experience generally
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I'm no expert, but what I've read on these forums, it's best to just let Android take care of it. Android has come pretty far with memory management, and third-party apps might just end up taking more RAM/battery.
You're wasting your time worrying about it.
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Johmama said:
I'm no expert, but what I've read on these forums, it's best to just let Android take care of it. Android has come pretty far with memory management, and third-party apps might just end up taking more RAM/battery.
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This is true, forget about ram manager and dont be paranoid about the free/used ram amout
Thanks for help, I will not use any ram manager etc.

Guyzz .... Show your apps list and your ram usage and mention the task killers u use

Take a screen shot of all the installed apps in ur list and also take a screenshot of the ram usage ... Let's see who conserves well .... Mention the task killers ....
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I wouldnt recommend "adding" a Task Killer. Better tweak Android's native one to you likings using any of many Tweakers, or manually do so via Build.prop. It has been stated than Android OS does a great job at this. Task Killers will more likely lag the device and eat up resources/battery.
- Paul
Task killer was actually useful back in Froyo days... Back then Android's memory management isn't that great and very prone to lags (I remember my old Froyo phone)
But seriously... we're now at version 4.4.x, no longer 2.2.x... Android has become more and more efficient and even now Kitkat runs on a 512MB RAM device.
If you worry about background apps taking CPU cycles or keeping the device at wakelocks.... Greenify helps... but the ultimate solution is to hunt down the app and uninstall it. It's obvious that the app dev did a horrible job.
+1
I agree...I use Greenify and it helps a lot, airdroid, and even camaras work in the background. I've debloated my Grand, Seeder, done some minor build.prop tweaks (manually): fling speeds, max events, etc, and I have no complaints. Many of those "tweaks" out there, is more 'Snake Oil' than anything else.
naufalhadyan said:
Task killer was actually useful back in Froyo days... Back then Android's memory management isn't that great and very prone to lags (I remember my old Froyo phone)
But seriously... we're now at version 4.4.x, no longer 2.2.x... Android has become more and more efficient and even now Kitkat runs on a 512MB RAM device.
If you worry about background apps taking CPU cycles or keeping the device at wakelocks.... Greenify helps... but the ultimate solution is to hunt down the app and uninstall it. It's obvious that the app dev did a horrible job.
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