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[Q] why are you flashing unstable ROMS? (please read)

hello all i recently joined xda because i bought samsung galaxy 3. now as i have been looking for the rom threads in developement section i noticed that i cant post there so i read couple of rom threads and i was stunned. as i see there are 4 main rom makers, lastatious, kyrillos, apocalyps and greenmod. but when i first watched lastatious rom thread i saw that there are MANY problems in lastatious 1.8 also the same thing happened in apocalyps thread, people complain about the rom and they say it crashes/freezes a lot and some even say that they have flashed their phone with the same rom over and over again (like atleast 5times) and still they complain... but when i watched kyrillos and greenmod rom thread people said that they are almost bug free, even tough that greenmod rom is in beta it looks like its far more stable than apocalyps. and as i see it kyrillos rom is more stable than lastatious(and it isnt in beta) but most of the people will flash their rom with unstable lastatious or apocalyps... why? and if the rom wont work they will flash it again and again... why? why wont you use almost bug free roms instead of crashing/freezing rom? as i see it lastatious and apocalyps are the most downloaded and favorited roms but they are also very unstable roms... and this post was not a hate post to the great rom developers out there, i just dont get it... please reply to my post
p.s this was too big first post right?

Hmm... I don't know (about the unstable ROM flashing) p.s that was quite big post but it doesn't matter p.p.s yes you need 10 posts to post on Dec section

jazux said:
Hmm... I don't know (about the unstable ROM flashing) p.s that was quite big post but it doesn't matter p.p.s yes you need 10 posts to post on Dec section
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dec? you mean dev? ok thanx for clearing that up

filumbro said:
dec? you mean dev? ok thanx for clearing that up
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yeah i mean dev thanks for clearing that up

I myself do it to help the developer by testing his ROM and all of It's features, and then report results to the dev. Seeing as I've got very minimal skills or brain to contribute in the development I see it as the least I can do.

i tryed some. kyrillos did with every reboot a factory reset? i couldnt install apps and my phone got really hot i flashed it twice.. i tryed apocalypse but i got a softbrick when i rebooted my phone? I flashed back to indroid everytime becouse that one worked perfectly but when greenmods v1.0 is ill flash that one. it has 1% battery mod and it has neon theme that i like (sorry for my english)

Lestatious 1.7 worked bug-free.
Lestatious 1.8 has some minor issues with the kernel and Data2SD.
I'd still say Lestatious is the best ROM for me!
Sent From My 1.3GHz Galaxy 3 Lestatious V2 ACID (Build 1.8)

It's the urge to stay on the cutting edge and also the psychology of greener grass. I'm taking more of a backseat now as opposed the first few weeks of having the phone.

why flash unstable / beta ROMs? If you mean mindless flashing ('WOW, cool name, let's flash!!!') then I don't know
but if you want to help with development, testing, reporting bugs, contribute somehow, then it is perfectly justified

Apocalypse is in beta stage and of course it may have some bugs but will be fixed untill the final release.
Lestatious i think its a stable rom but v1.8 has an alpha version kernel which is not as stable as beta or final.
My rom has also an alpha version kernel with some freezes rarely.
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom

kyrillos13 said:
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom
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thanx
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I use Kyrillos because it's very fast and without A2SD+ I wouldn't have enough space for my apps...
And I also think that Kyrillos is mostly stable

kyrillos13 said:
Apocalypse is in beta stage and of course it may have some bugs but will be fixed untill the final release.
Lestatious i think its a stable rom but v1.8 has an alpha version kernel which is not as stable as beta or final.
My rom has also an alpha version kernel with some freezes rarely.
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom
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I flashed your rom 4.1 directly from DDJP2 with the hope that the camera and the faceobook touch site would open. But still it has the camera bug. So i changed to Stock european version new release. XWJPF and i like it.
Though its has the camera bug and facebook touch site wont open. Do you have any solution for this???
DDJP6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF
Will be waitng for your reply soon.

people flash unstable roms because they want to support the developer and test out some of the newer features of the rom. if nobody tests them, how are they gonna stamp out the bugs? unless you want to stick to the boring stock g3.
unstable as it is, its not like any real damage is done. whatever happens, you can just reflash it. no biggie

ayancold said:
I flashed your rom 4.1 directly from DDJP2 with the hope that the camera and the faceobook touch site would open. But still it has the camera bug. So i changed to Stock european version new release. XWJPF and i like it.
Though its has the camera bug and facebook touch site wont open. Do you have any solution for this???
DDJP6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF
Will be waitng for your reply soon.
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I think that you have a hardware problem with your camera. I had problem with it only on Apocalypse beta 3 OC. With any other rom camera working good.
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cop1976 said:
I think that you have a hardware problem with your camera. I had problem with it only on Apocalypse beta 3 OC. With any other rom camera working good.
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I dont think so because it was working perfect on my Stock eclair DDJG6. But after upgraing i am having this prblm. My camera is working perfect but if the location is enabled and if i dont have lock on my position my camera would force close if a click a photo. But if its turned off it works flawlessly. And in FROYO their isnt any option for turning off Geo-tagging.
Do you have any solution for this prblem..or a most stable ROM that doesnt have any prblm.
DDJG6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF

I dont have a solution because like i said before for me camera working good on every froyo rom except apocalypse beta 3 oc.
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ayancold said:
I dont think so because it was working perfect on my Stock eclair DDJG6. But after upgraing i am having this prblm. My camera is working perfect but if the location is enabled and if i dont have lock on my position my camera would force close if a click a photo. But if its turned off it works flawlessly. And in FROYO their isnt any option for turning off Geo-tagging.
Do you have any solution for this prblem..or a most stable ROM that doesnt have any prblm.
DDJG6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF
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Did you try settings -> location & security -> uncheck "use wireless networks". GPS is also not necesarry.

kyrillos13 said:
Apocalypse is in beta stage and of course it may have some bugs but will be fixed untill the final release.
Lestatious i think its a stable rom but v1.8 has an alpha version kernel which is not as stable as beta or final.
My rom has also an alpha version kernel with some freezes rarely.
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom
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hi
i think u got ur answers here
but i have been using kyrillos13 recent rom and its quite stable and good for me
i think its more what one wants if ur a basic user like me its ok. IF u are a heavy user that is u want LWP gps & blah blah then yes u would have many problems
and no matter how good the rom is overclocking is always gona give u the problem because the manufacture has a reason why he has made the phone for a certain speed we try to boost it very very high then their will be a problem
somewhere i read that a +10to 15% is ok but guys here boost it like double so ur bound to get problems

Well basically we all like to stay on the current situation...coz if u miss out on sumthing ull get thrown behind eons...so its better to stay updated here on xda!
Plus checking out alphas betas n oder stable ROMs is quite fun...u get a look of what oder smart-brained dev did to ur fone frm a piece of junk to a heavenly piece!...Happy Flashing!

recommend a rom

after becoming fustrated with the lack of a update for north/latin america, ive decided to flash my phone. Im currently on jh2 and its working really well without problems. Ive download jpm to flash but not sure if it will work as its a european rom and also been hearing recently it has a few bugs like the battery showing an incorrect percentage.
So can any1 tell me if it will work/recommend me one that will.

Well i can tell you one thing - you will be getting lots of advises !
However, first you might try the latest Canadian Firmware which was released last week since that seems to be the closest stock ROM you can get for North America
P.S. - You might check THIS THREAD too...

That jpm bug is real i think
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Tianhe said:
Well i can tell you one thing - you will be getting lots of advises !
However, first you might try the latest Canadian Firmware which was released last week since that seems to be the closest stock ROM you can get for North America
P.S. - You might check THIS THREAD too...
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First thanks for responding, Ive seen the canadian rom but it barely been tested. I think only 2 ppl have tried it.

I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123 with the latest fugumod

fallensoldier said:
after becoming fustrated with the lack of a update for north/latin america, ive decided to flash my phone. Im currently on jh2 and its working really well without problems. Ive download jpm to flash but not sure if it will work as its a european rom and also been hearing recently it has a few bugs like the battery showing an incorrect percentage.
So can any1 tell me if it will work/recommend me one that will.
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if u wanna go for stock rom then the best option is XXJPM and in custom rom its Indroid 4.2

brjshshrma said:
if u wanna go for stock rom then the best option is XXJPM and in custom rom its Indroid 4.2
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I've installed indroid 4.2 and it's a really nice rom. The only thing until now that's not working is the gps. It takes really long time to get a fix. And when i get a fix, my google navigation crashes. In indroid 3 it was working perfectly.

Thanks for all the responses guys. As this is my first time flashing ill stick with stock. I have the the jpm without bootloader files so ill give it a go.
Btw anyone know if its recommended to remove your sim and sd when flashing or optional.

use stock JPM most of the custom roms are stock modded and nothing special..
Use stock and your own ****ty tweaks which is a lot better !

I recommend cyanogemod....Marcellusbe is working on that. It will be great if he finishes it.

try Destiny Based on JPN, and its fully stable.

I recommand the Kyrillos'ROM 5.5
It's the more stable and battery saver rom i've ever tried !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123
And yes, cyangenmod when it's finished, big thanks to marcellusbe
sorry for my english.

fallensoldier said:
Thanks for all the responses guys. As this is my first time flashing ill stick with stock. I have the the jpm without bootloader files so ill give it a go.
Btw anyone know if its recommended to remove your sim and sd when flashing or optional.
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Its optional.

I recommand the Kyrillos'ROM 5.6, quick responses if problem with your phone

Franckydiam said:
I recommand the Kyrillos'ROM 5.6, quick responses if problem with your phone
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Even the indroid developers respond very quick and to the point. Rudolf is awesome. @everyone: go for indroid 4.3

Hi
My preference is:
Kyrillos 5.7 JPM-based with Fugumod 2.2 Bleeding Edge kernel OC 1300mHz
Most stable ROM I've used, quick responses and no FC so far (only been using again for 8 days but hey all the others I tried would FC a few times a day). I love it!
Switched to Indroid for a while and it is good but went back to Kyrillos as I prefer it.

Ive finally flashed (jpm). I just couldnt wait anymore. Everthing seems to be working good thus far, Thanks for all the help.

for american roms try stock DTLKDA or rafo's ROM those are the only ones I know for america I am currently on Rafo's Rom and its very stable btw I am new to this forum

I would recommend using team lambent kitchen and creating your own personal rom. I'm using jpq with g3 v1.32 lite for extra stability. G3 has a ram script built into it already so just remember not to install the ram hack performance mod.
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Get jpm and customize it according to your needs...
No fc's at all.....most stable
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Plzzz suggest a ROM

I am a G3 user but finding lots of problem after upgrading it to froyo last week, battery problem, camera crashing etc. i am a moderate user. can anyone suggest me a good CUSTOM ROM to flash. I am using it in india. bettery and gps my main priority. plz reply.

bizjoya said:
I am a G3 user but finding lots of problem after upgrading it to froyo last week, battery problem, camera crashing etc. i am a moderate user. can anyone suggest me a good CUSTOM ROM to flash. I am using it in india. bettery and gps my main priority. plz reply.
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You can try indroid v5 which would be coming within few days...
Tapatalked from my super smooth, ultra fast samsung galaxy s2.

I'm having an excellent run on kyrillos rom v5.7..
Sent From My GT-I5800 Cruzin Along 0n Kyrillos' Rom V5.7 Honeycomb Edition..

thanx masters. Will look forward to Indroid 5. And asusual hearing so many good about Kyrillos 6. But what If I want to go for a Stock ROM??

Indroid is good!!
Waiting for V5.0.

Try Kyrillos' rom v6. I heard that its good.

How about XXJPM?? shud i go for that as until Indroid 5 comes out???

kyrillos13 said:
Try Kyrillos' rom v6. I heard that its good.
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Master.. i already did that .. but somehow battery backup is a bit low.. found 5.7 most strongest from batt back point of view... any suggestion??

bizjoya said:
Master.. i already did that .. but somehow battery backup is a bit low.. found 5.7 most strongest from batt back point of view... any suggestion??
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Then use 5.7 kernel with v6. And if u find v5.7 gud, use the same
I wud recommend flash 5.7 and then flash fugumod ultra pre release frm here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134369

vikraam said:
Then use 5.7 kernel with v6. And if u find v5.7 gud, use the same
I wud recommend flash 5.7 and then flash fugumod ultra pre release frm here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134369
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thanks a lot vikram.. we need to flash it with ODIN as one package right??? tho GPS not working properly neither on v5.7 nor on v6.

bizjoya said:
thanks a lot vikram.. we need to flash it with ODIN as one package right??? tho GPS not working properly neither on v5.7 nor on v6.
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use GPS Fix App
regardless what rom your in,it should work with this fix

Stuck in The Bootlogo After Flashing A Ro PLS Help

Hi Guys ,, i Am Not A Noob At First " im Trying Every Rom in XDA But When When i Tried The COD Rom i've Liked Because i'ts lite And Minimal But i've Gotten Bored of it So i Looked For Another Rom And That Was Creeds Rom 3.5 i've Heards it'll Be Good One So i've Downloaded and Took A Backup For Cod Rom Via CWM And Flashed Creeds i Didn't Liked it So Mush So i've Restored My Back Up Again Then After Some Days Saw The Cyanogen Democracy Tried To Flash But Stuck On The Boot Logo i've Got This Problem Before But i've Passed it By Odin And Did The Same Here Restored Orignal Rom Then Restored The COD Backup i SAW The Orignal Cyanogen Tried To FLash But Same Problem Then Restored The COD
The Problem Here How i Can Fix This Issue
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My Phone is Now Working By The Backup i Made Through CWM But When i Try To Install Any ROM Stuck on Boot Logo What Can i Do
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U mean u flashed the real cyanogen? ! Not even the ported one? ?
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U mean u flashed the real cyanogen? ! Not even the ported one? ?
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Unofficial Cyanogen 7 What Should i Do Now

iDuc said:
Unofficial Cyanogen 7 What Should i Do Now
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u flashed maroc-os' unstable cm7
flash whitexp's stable cm7
U FLASHED THE WRONG CM7

Inorder TO Run Cm7 U hve to hve A compatible Kernel lIke White Kernel etc.
So Flash kernel.
If U still Hve Problem Than
flash Stock ROM Via Odin.
Just Follow The Steps given In the Link
www.yhdgames.blogspot.com/2012/07/flash-stock-rom-on-galaxy-ywith-odin.html?m=1

The Problem is Not Here i've Tried DIANXIN OS But Same Results
ROM

D_Rising_Pheonix said:
Inorder TO Run Cm7 U hve to hve A compatible Kernel lIke White Kernel etc.
So Flash kernel.
If U still Hve Problem Than
flash Stock ROM Via Odin.
Just Follow The Steps given In the Link
www.yhdgames.blogspot.com/2012/07/flash-stock-rom-on-galaxy-ywith-odin.html?m=1
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i've Flashed Stock ROM And Tried To Flash DIANXIN OS But Same Problem

maybe the ROM wud have locked ur partition.... meaning not letting u switch between ROMS without Repartitioning....try google for that

N910F Best Rom?

Hi i'm still on stock rom Android 6.0.1 (updated by Odin). I wan't to install some custom rom to my N910F note 4 but there is so many roms i can't decide which one would be the best. I'm thinking of roms with note 7/s7 features. Can any of you that using decent rom give an advice which rom is most stable without bugs or only minor bugs? I don't want to lose fingerprint secure and i'm aware few roms had problems with that? Is it fixed now? If any of you have tested any roms and are happy can you make some recommendations for me for which rom i should go? I will really appreciate that

thenecu said:
Hi i'm still on stock rom Android 6.0.1 (updated by Odin). I wan't to install some custom rom to my N910F note 4 but there is so many roms i can't decide which one would be the best. I'm thinking of roms with note 7/s7 features. Can any of you that using decent rom give an advice which rom is most stable without bugs or only minor bugs? I don't want to lose fingerprint secure and i'm aware few roms had problems with that? Is it fixed now? If any of you have tested any roms and are happy can you make some recommendations for me for which rom i should go? I will really appreciate that
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Noble rom v3 is best in my opinion and fingerprint works with workaround no bugs so far and AOD also works.i am using this for about 2 weeks and very satisfied.all the games runs butter smooth.only issue i had when i first installed this rom was over heating and i fixed with xceed kernel.all the other roms based on note7 or s7 i tried has lot of bugs IN MY OPINION

Trex888 said:
Noble rom v3 is best in my opinion and fingerprint works with workaround no bugs so far and AOD also works.i am using this for about 2 weeks and very satisfied.all the games runs butter smooth.only issue i had when i first installed this rom was over heating and i fixed with xceed kernel.all the other roms based on note7 or s7 i tried has lot of bugs IN MY OPINION
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Sounds gud to me I am gonna give v3 a try what's the workaround for the fingerprint scanner?

vibealite said:
Sounds gud to me I am gonna give v3 a try what's the workaround for the fingerprint scanner?
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You have to flash a zip file from twrp
it will give you original note 4 settings ui then register fingerprint after that flash another zip file to restore s7 settings ui.then you can use fingerprint with c locker app for lockscreen.and fingerprint srcurity app to lock apps both of this apps are free in playstore
Just search for fingerprint workaround inside noble v3 thread and there are lot of discussion and files there.

Thank you for opinion, have you also tried Dr Ketan or Norma rom before Noble v3?

thenecu said:
Thank you for opinion, have you also tried Dr Ketan or Norma rom before Noble v3?
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Drketen rom is very good but i have over heating issues
And norma i tried all versions but still in beta and buggy in my opinion.there are lot of fix to do to make norma run stable.

Thank you Trex888 for your opinion, i think i will give it a try at evening i will try to install it however if anyone want to add something to this trade feel free to do so. More opinions only help (i guess not only for me but for other N910F users)

Trex888 said:
Noble rom v3 is best in my opinion and fingerprint works with workaround no bugs so far and AOD also works.i am using this for about 2 weeks and very satisfied.all the games runs butter smooth.only issue i had when i first installed this rom was over heating and i fixed with xceed kernel.all the other roms based on note7 or s7 i tried has lot of bugs IN MY OPINION
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how does AOD work for you? Its buggy and you cant use the auto brightness

Motawa88 said:
how does AOD work for you? Its buggy and you cant use the auto brightness
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It works great just when you unlock phone you have to press power button 2 or 3 times or you can cover the sensors with your finger and press once to restore brightness.make sure you update AOD from galaxy apps to latest version.

So basically i need to download the latest version of rom from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/rom-noble-rom-t3392289
And for instalation process first i need to flash Bootloader & Modem, then rom and then kernel? If yes which kernel you recommend? and do i need to root my phone before?

thenecu said:
So basically i need to download the latest version of rom from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/rom-noble-rom-t3392289
And for instalation process first i need to flash Bootloader & Modem, then rom and then kernel? If yes which kernel you recommend? and do i need to root my phone before?
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Custom roms comes pre rooted you don't need to root
You have to be on any 6.0.1 bootloader doesn't matter
Best kernel for noble in my openion will be 1 of 3 kernels below.
1st . xceed kernel will give you performance & better battery and no over heating in my opinion
2nd. beastmode r56 will give you best speed & performance but sometimes has heating and auto sync issues with noble v3
3rd. Hvitamin kernel will give you best performance and speed but has heating issues
All of them will work with n910f
You can try every 1 couple of days dont judge in few hours kernel is good or bad
Dont forget to thanks or donate few bucks to kernels and rom developers if you can.they put lots of hours to do awesome job.
All kernels are awesome I am not saying that kernels are bad i am sharing my opinion and experience based on my usage

Custom roms comes pre rooted you don't need to root
You have to be on any 6.0.1 bootloader doesn't matter
Best kernel for noble in my openion will be 1 of 3 kernels below.
1st . xceed kernel will give you performance & better battery and no over heating in my opinion
2nd. beastmode r56 will give you best speed & performance but sometimes has heating and auto sync issues with noble v3
3rd. Hvitamin kernel will give you best performance and speed but has heating issues
All of them will work with n910f
You can try every 1 couple of days dont judge in few hours kernel is good or bad
Dont forget to thanks or donate few bucks to kernels and rom developers if you can.they put lots of hours to do awesome job.
All kernels are awesome I am not saying that kernels are bad i am sharing my opinion and experience based on my usage
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I've installed the rom it was working fine. However fingerprint lock don't work for me? Do i need to use third party apk for that? Second thing later i've instaled xceed kernel, everygthing seems to work fine and smooth. However eveytime i restart phone or turn it off and on in left up corner is see text "kernel is not senandroid enforcing" - is that mean something is wrong? Phone is turning on normally, there is no boot loop or anything like that but it concerns me a little bit.