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What programs are safe to remove?

Hey guys,
I permarooted my phone yesterday, and got rid of amazon mp3 via titanium back up. There's so much more I want to get rid of, but I don't want to delete something essential to the ROM resulting in force closures forever.
I wouldn't mind so much if I was using some sort of recovery with the complete ROM zip in my SD card.
Back to the point, what can we safely delete?

just back up the apps before you uninstall them, then if you have any issues you can just put it back

I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.

thebitjockey said:
I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.
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I thought TB did in fact backup system apps. Maybe when I did it with TB it wasn't really backing them up, but it gave me the option to do it so I did. Figured I would back up the system apps to the ROM in case it was somewhat difficult to un-root if needed.

TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.

floepie said:
TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.
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But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?

I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Same here no issues.

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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For me, it backed them up and I did see the compressed files. Upon further examination, the compressed files were empty.
What someone else said is true, it does backup the data but it does not backup the app yet it will delete the apps APK files from the /system/app directory. Basically, no way to restore them.

freeze an app first... make sure you get no FC or problems...
then delete it

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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TB can backup only system app data, that is data from the apps built into the ROM. It does however back up both user apps themselves (elective apps you download) in addition to their data.

Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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21productionz said:
Same here no issues.
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I think he just wants to know which apps everyone removed to avoid any issues a head a time.... like a list of what you removed if your not having any issues whats so ever...
I havent got a OTA yet so I cant remove anything either way but if your still waiting to get confirmation on whats def safe to remove Ill let you know when I do it

^^ Great, thanks. There are so many threads and questions about bloatware, methods of removing said bloatware, and which ones are safe to remove.
A running list would be great, and I suggest that additional posts be more specific to assist the more timid amongst us. Thanks.

Could someone be kindly enough to explain what is this permarooted thing for? I did a search and there's guide on how to do permaroot only. and yes I r a nub, my first android. :X

can someone compile a list of safe things to remove?

Please post questions in Q&A section.

I took out a few things yesterday and found out two important things:
1) Even after removing Facebook for Mytouch you cannot add a Facebook sync account using the market Facebook app.
2) Titanium will not restore apps like Peep or Facebook for Mytouch. It lists it as backed up, but there is no option to restore. ('restore all apps and system data' yielded the same results)
There was an alternate FB app out there for a while that fixed the sync issue, but for myself I just reverted to my nandroid backup.
However, aside from the issue above, I experienced no issues on the phone after removing:
Facebook for Mytouch
Peep
News sync
News
Asphalt, RB, etc
I think I removed a few others but don't want to guess at names and spread misinformation.
May I suggest someone compile a list and create a stickie topic for it?
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^^ Yeah, well Titanium cannot backup system apps, and therefore, cannot restore them! It only backs up and restores their data.

@Hinouchi
Rooting is the process of, basically, gaining full access to make changes to your phone.
Permarooting is a term used specifically relating to the G2 and Mytouch, which were "designed" to revert changes such as rooting after the phone is rebooted. Permaroot is a process by which you bypass this manufacturer "safety feature" and obtain *perma*nent *root* access.
I suspect you may find a better explanation on Wikipedia, but that's the gist of it.
EDIT: No worries on the content of your question, we're all "n00bs" at something
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@floepie
So it would seem! Though I don't recall ever seeing that in what documentation there is for the app.
I'll look again and email the dev if I can't find anything.
There are certainly other ways to backup/restore those apps, but the capability to do so in Ti would be some kind of awesomesauce
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Titainiam backup

Im using Titainiam backup (free version), is there anyway to back up all apps/SMS/contacts/other data with just 1 click? From what I can find you have to select each 1 seperatly?
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About...3 clicks. Menu -> Batch and from there select the one that fits your needs the best.

Quick question re Titanium Backup.... It says it needs "ROOT", does this mean it will not work with a non-rooted system??
I'm using the standard Orange, non-messed with Android (which I'm quite happy with), can I still use Titanium Backup?

you need root access...

L0gan said:
you need root access...
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Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?

Riceburner said:
Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
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You can try Mybackup Pro

The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.

Hello, sprite backup ( latest version compatible with Gingerbreak ) save and restore contacts,calendar ... even if you have an unrooted phone ( mine is unrooted and i've restored contacts successfully ) .

shaithis said:
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
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Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.

GoSMS Pro will do this for you. I mnow it is a whole seperate SMS app, but it is a guaranteed way for it to work, and doesn't take long. And you might find you like it for SMS anyway
Sent from my Desire HD

i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.

Hi Riceburner
Riceburner said:
Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
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You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest

Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
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What is stuck in root?
When ever a App tries to gain Root Access for the first time Superuser will appear on your screen and Ask if you what to give the App Root Permission or not, and whether to remember the permissions that are given [the default is remember].
Take Care
TheQuest

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
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True.
ok, cheers.
Mind you - it's all academic anyway because I have no idea when (or even if) I'll be getting the update. Still seem to be stuck on 1.84.61.2 (as far as I can see). Orange aren't known for their speed on software upgrades.

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
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You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.

yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???

so this is a no go then

Hi springy
springy said:
You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
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Yes I am sure of what I wrote, I did not say anything about data being stored.
I do not know about what MyBackUp can and can not do.
Titanium BackUp can back up all Apps and Data. [data can not be restore to a different Rom though]
Take Care
TheQuest

Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
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Do you a CWM installed, if so you could try booting in to recovery, and use the fix permissions to see if it helps to clear the problem with SU.
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TheQuest

Hi jaggysnake
jaggysnake said:
so this is a no go then
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Are you talking to yourself?
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[Q] App Backup- Not a stupid question

I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.

huynh727 said:
I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.
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With Titanium Backup you can restore Apps one by one. or as a batch option. You do not have to back up personal data with the app data.
This is what i do when i switch ROMs. I just skip the sign in, then log in via the accounts and sync option, then use the market to download T/Backup and batch restore and allow Google to re-sync my phone and use tit/bac for my apps.

This is what i do when i switch ROMs. I just skip the sign in, then log in via the accounts and sync option, then use the market to download T/Backup and batch restore and allow Google to re-sync my phone and use tit/bac for my apps.
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Right, that is what I meant. When you just backup apps alone, the app data comes along with it. For example, when I restore angry birds alone, I still have all of my accolades. I was wondering how I could restore apps similar to freshly installing it onto my phone.

huynh727 said:
Right, that is what I meant. When you just backup apps alone, the app data comes along with it. For example, when I restore angry birds alone, I still have all of my accolades.
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Yes. If you do a batch restore you can have it do "restore apps with data" and it will act like you never left the game.

I forgot to mention a part, please look at my above post again. Thanks

huynh727 said:
I forgot to mention a part, please look at my above post again. Thanks
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Yes you can also restore apps w/o user data.
you can also unlink apps from the market. So like with the recent flash update you can unlink the app from the market so you do not get market updates. so i can keep 10.1 and not worry about 10.2.

So how would I do that?

huynh727 said:
So how would I do that?
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do what?
we've covered several different things.

neidlinger said:
do what?
we've covered several different things.
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Backup an app, then restore it as a fresh app without any data from before.

huynh727 said:
Backup an app, then restore it as a fresh app without any data from before.
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after you've rooted
after you've made sure s=off
you need to install the TB from the market and the Pro Key
once you you do that open the app up, download BusyBox via the "problems" button.
Then go to the "backup/restore" button and pick what you want to freeze/backup/restore
if you want to do a batch option from the main screen press the menu > BATCH > then select what you want to .

huynh727 said:
I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.
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You can also try MyBackup Root. Its free and a little easier to use than Titanium. Seems to work great for me.

As well as ES file explorer or AntTek app manager.
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[WORKAROUND] Can't defrost frozen apps with titanium backup on KL7

Took me some time to find a solution, a lot of googling,
eventually I found this magic post
And I thought it deserves a better spotlight.
1. Copy /data/system/packages.xml to your PC. (or edit it somehow...)
2. Edit it, find the line with your app name that looks something like :
Code:
<package name="com.sec.android.app.samsungapps" codePath="/data/app/com.sec.android.app.samsungapps-1.apk" nativeLibraryPath="/data/data/com.sec.android.app.samsungapps/lib" flags="1" ft="134880eb380" it="11b7e237e00" ut="134880eb753" version="26114" userId="10039" enabled="false">
3. This line freezes samsung apps, which I wanted to desfrost to make S-Choice work. Change the false, to true > Save.
4. Copy the file back to the phone.
5. Contact titanium backup author and report this bug.
Reboot, Enjoy.
PS - I did not find the solution myself, I am just making a solution found by olympicchicken More readable and searchable.

I too have been having the problem with not being able to unfreeze system apps. What worked for me is to uninstall the frozen app from within Titanium BU (be sure to have a backup before uninstalling). Then just reboot and was able to restore the app through Titanium BU.
Don't know if it made any difference but I had done the app backup in Titanium before I froze it in the first place.

Mdpearo said:
I too have been having the problem with not being able to unfreeze system apps. What worked for me is to uninstall the frozen app from within Titanium BU (be sure to have a backup before uninstalling). Then just reboot and was able to restore the app through Titanium BU.
Don't know if it made any difference but I had done the app backup in Titanium before I froze it in the first place.
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I didn't backup any of the system apps I froze before freezing, hence if I would have deleted them, I would have been deleting the only apk copy i had of them.

Could somebody please check their /data/system/packages.xml for the line referencing "com.sec.android.app.controlpanel" (Task Manager) and post this entire line for me?
I've stupidly uninstalled it and TB can't restore it from backup as the line is missing.
Cheers.

eitama said:
I didn't backup any of the system apps I froze before freezing, hence if I would have deleted them, I would have been deleting the only apk copy i had of them.
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Even if you have an app frozen you can still select backup. Then uninstall the app, reboot, and restore the app.

Mdpearo said:
Even if you have an app frozen you can still select backup. Then uninstall the app, reboot, and restore the app.
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That didn't work as TB just hangs when trying to restore. I don't have a nandroid backup so if someone can post that line then I can at least fix it manually.

A simpler way to locate the particular line is by searching for "false" will keep showing all the frozen apps ) much faster too

I can confirm the uninstall and restore method worked for me..
I had frozen all three samsung app services(app, account, una) and I wanted to unfreeze them because of the free Dead Space and Modern Combat offers and I couldn't unfreeze them..
So as they were already frozen I made a back up of them, uninstalled them, reboot and restore them.. Worked like a charm..
Thanks guys.

I also try to contact the TITANIUM BACKUP developer informing about this bug... but not update avaible for the moment!

The file-edit method did not work for me. However, the uninstall/restore did. You have to convert system apps to user apps to backup them first, but it's quick and easy.

Possible solution
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk

joel.bourquard said:
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk
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Works fine, thx.

joel.bourquard said:
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk
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hey, i also having same prob that i cannot unfreeze apps through either link2sd or tb.
is it the link is death? can resend the link again? thx lot

rshui said:
hey, i also having same prob that i cannot unfreeze apps through either link2sd or tb.
is it the link is death? can resend the link again? thx lot
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Hi,
This link is not needed anymore. The official version has it now

When you switch ROMs, what's the easiest way to restore everything else?

When you switch ROMs, what's the easiest way to restore everything else? Android will restore apps (and their data?) but how do you restore all your shortcuts, folders and such?
There are so many cool ROMs on here to try but it takes me hours to restore everything, I usually just try one and end up keeping it.

Titanium Backup Pro, take a full system backup, after flashing a new ROM just restore the install missing apk option only, and other than text messages and call logs, everything will be restored.

Nova Launcher
Neo3D said:
When you switch ROMs, what's the easiest way to restore everything else? Android will restore apps (and their data?) but how do you restore all your shortcuts, folders and such?
There are so many cool ROMs on here to try but it takes me hours to restore everything, I usually just try one and end up keeping it.
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I used to backup apps using ES and also install them back and finally after installing all apps, I used to recover my Nova backup, which would setup my homescreen, icons, widgets and shortcuts...
I'd recommend not to backup and restore app data for all apps as I see few people reporting issues with it

ithehappy said:
Titanium Backup Pro, take a full system backup, after flashing a new ROM just restore the install missing apk option only, and other than text messages and call logs, everything will be restored.
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Thanks! So, is this something that has worked for you recently? Will it work on these new Lollipop ROMs?

nijom said:
I used to backup apps using ES and also install them back and finally after installing all apps, I used to recover my Nova backup, which would setup my homescreen, icons, widgets and shortcuts...
I'd recommend not to backup and restore app data for all apps as I see few people reporting issues with it
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So, you DO NOT recommended using an automated system to restore apps and data?
What do you do instead? Do you just re-install all of them manually? That's so time consuming, it takes me almost a whole day!

Neo3D said:
So, you DO NOT recommended using an automated system to restore apps and data?
What do you do instead? Do you just re-install all of them manually? That's so time consuming, it takes me almost a whole day!
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I'll open the apk backup folder in ES and select all and click Install. I'll automatically show next app once the first one is installed. Just need to Click install and done. No need to manually go back to folder and install separately
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Neo3D said:
Thanks! So, is this something that has worked for you recently? Will it work on these new Lollipop ROMs?
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I haven't tried on Lollipop ROMs, but it should work.

nijom said:
I'll open the apk backup folder in ES and select all and click Install. I'll automatically show next app once the first one is installed. Just need to Click install and done. No need to manually go back to folder and install separately
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Does that method also restore the app's data?

Neo3D said:
Does that method also restore the app's data?
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No it won't. Few developers recommend not to restore data as it may cause force closes
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nijom said:
No it won't. Few developers recommend not to restore data as it may cause force closes
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If it's not recommended to backup and restore app data, then isn't it easier just to use Android's built in app backup and restore?