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My email to HTC about dust under my screen etc..

Hi, I had my Nexus One for about 4 weeks when I discovered dust under the screen. I rang the service centre who said because my phone was over 2 weeks old I couldn’t have a replacement only a repair. I sent it in for repair and it came back a week later.
I checked the phone over and it looked fine. Then 3 days later I noticed that the dust had come back again. Naturally I was very unhappy as the repair was obviously not carried out correctly or there was a fault with phone.
I then contacted the service department again to tell them I was very unhappy with the repair and what could I do to escalate the issue. I was told by Lee after he had spoken to an escalations manager that I could have a doorstep exchange. That was supposed to happen on the Wednesday.
I waited in all day for the replacement and it never arrived. I rang the service department again to ask where my phone was and was told that a doorstep exchange was not available in the UK and should not have been promised to me. They said that I had to send the phone in again for repair. I explained to them that I was not happy with the service I was getting and that I wanted to take it further. All they could offer was to have the phone looked at again and see if they could replace it.
So I sent it in again for repair and after they had had it for 4 days I rang to see what was happening as I had heard nothing. I was told that I could have a brand new replacement phone and I would receive it Friday. It came Friday and I was happier now I had a phone without dust under the screen. That was until I used it when the lighting in the room was low. I then noticed that the soft key lights were not illuminating. I really could not believe this from a supposedly brand new phone.
So yet again I rang the service department explained my problem to Sebastian and he said that the service I had received was not good enough and he would pass it onto his escalations manager and that he would ring me Monday morning which is today. He didn’t ring Dominic did and said that my phone would have to go for repair again.
At this stage I am now that fed up with the whole thing I could not be bothered arguing anymore, as over the weekend the phone had got dust under the screen just like my last one had. So today I am sending my phone in again. It also means that the service centre has had the phone longer in their possession than I have had since owning it.
I like the phone just not the quality of the build of it and also the outcome of service from the service centre.
I would like someone to contact me and explain why I have had so many problems and also insurance that I will have a working phone eventually.

johnboywilson said:
Hi, i had my Nexus One for about 4 weeks when i discovered dust under the screen. I rang the service centre who said because my phone was over 2 weeks old i couldnt have a replacement only a repair. I sent it in for repair and it came back a week later. I checked the phone over and it looked fine. Then 3 days later i noticed that the dust had come back again. Naturally i was very unhappy as the repair was obviously not carried out correctly or there was a fault with phone. I then contacted the service department again to tell them i was very unhappy with the repair and what could i do to escalate the issue. I was told by Lee after he had spoken to an esculations manager that i could have a doorstep exchange. That was supposed to happen on the Wednesday. I waited in all day for the replacement and it never arrived. I rang the service department again to ask where my phone was and was told that a doorstep exchange was not available in the UK and should not have been promised to me. They said that i had to send the phone in again for repair. I explained to them that i was not happy with the service i was getting and that i wanted to take it furthur. All they could offer was to have the phone looked at again and see if they could replace it. So i sent it in again for repair and after they had had it for 4 days i rang to see what was happening as i had heard nothing. I was told that i could have a brand new replacement phone and i would receive it Friday. It came Friday and i was happier now i had a phone without dust under the screen. That was until i used it when the lighting in the room was low. I then noticed that the soft key lights were not illuminating. I really could not believe this from a supposedley brand new phone. So yet again i rang the service department explained my problem to Sebastian and he said that the service i had received was not good enough and he would pass it onto his escalations manager and that he would ring me Monday morning which is today. He didnt ring Dominic did and said that my phone would have to go for repair again. At this stage i am now that fed up with the whole thing i could not be bothered arguing anymore, as over the weekend the phone had got dust under the screen just like my last one had. So today i am sending my phone in again. It also means that the service centre has had the phone longer in their possession than i have had since owning it.
I like the phone just not the quality of the build of it and also the outcome of service from the service centre.
I would like someone to contact me and explain why i have had so many problems and also an insurance that i will have a working phone eventually.
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HOLY SH!!!!!!
Ever heard of PARAGRAPHS?

Im sorry to hear this bro :-( that's sad how customer service was handled very poorly. That's one heck of a luck you got.
@Paul LOL you think after all this guy has been through, he cares bout paragraphs? I probably be typing with CAPS.

Paul22000 said:
HOLY SH!!!!!!
Ever heard of PARAGRAPHS?
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haha agreed... i had to follow along with a finger..
in any note.. my debacle is this... had everyone gotten the N1 for say the upgrade price of 179, would there be as much commotion over things. I think part of the unhappiness comes from spending so much on such a fine piece of tech. Dont get me wrong i agree with the OP 100% and would be just as ticked off, but I think that there comes a time when it is fine to say, screw this, just tell me what I need to do in order to make you guys work for my benefit.
let us know how the situation pans out.

you are not the only one here... i got dust, and sent to be replaced. then, the same one came back.. whats worse, the phone rattled. so, i sent it back for refund. heard nothing from them during the following 10 days after the delivery was made. i called back. they told me the phone was lost. FTW. the only solution they have now is ESCALATION...
Still waiting..

Hope you get a resolution soon.
Just out of info where are you returning the phone to? Are the service centres in the UK?

Sorry it was paragraphed in my original email. Had to copy and paste into note pad and forget to check it before posting.
I really only posted to see if anyone else had as many issues as i did.
Yes i could very nearly have typed it all in CAPITAL LETTERS!!! I was mad..

redmongoose said:
Hope you get a resolution soon.
Just out of info where are you returning the phone to? Are the service centres in the UK?
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Yes UK Milton Keynes.

palosjr said:
haha agreed... i had to follow along with a finger..
in any note.. my debacle is this... had everyone gotten the N1 for say the upgrade price of 179, would there be as much commotion over things. I think part of the unhappiness comes from spending so much on such a fine piece of tech. Dont get me wrong i agree with the OP 100% and would be just as ticked off, but I think that there comes a time when it is fine to say, screw this, just tell me what I need to do in order to make you guys work for my benefit.
let us know how the situation pans out.
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Yes this is the first time i have bought a phone out of conract.
Maybe i have learnt a lesson!

w00yee said:
you are not the only one here... i got dust, and sent to be replaced. then, the same one came back.. whats worse, the phone rattled. so, i sent it back for refund. heard nothing from them during the following 10 days after the delivery was made. i called back. they told me the phone was lost. FTW. the only solution they have now is ESCALATION...
Still waiting..
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Oh crickey, i feel a little better now reading your post..

Do you by any chqnce have a picture of the dust under the screen? Id really like to see what this is all about

Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613115

johnboywilson said:
Hi, i had my Nexus One for about 4 weeks when i discovered dust under the screen....
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Holly sh..* I would start to hate this phone ..actually, after that I don´t even dare to search for any dust .....

JoshHart said:
Do you by any chqnce have a picture of the dust under the screen? Id really like to see what this is all about
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Its away for repair again!

w00yee said:
you are not the only one here... i got dust, and sent to be replaced. then, the same one came back.. whats worse, the phone rattled. so, i sent it back for refund. heard nothing from them during the following 10 days after the delivery was made. i called back. they told me the phone was lost. FTW. the only solution they have now is ESCALATION...
Still waiting..
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I'd be disputing the purchase charge with my card issuer if I were you!

I had a similar issue. i tried purchasing aNexus with my Paypal Card but since it was over $500, it was declined by paypal since i had some limitations!
then i used my bank accounts debit card and tried to purchase the phone again, the shopping cart showed me 1 Nexus one phone. very good, i went through with the purchase and a few hours later i receive an automatic email stating the first purchase has been re initiated since the card was changed.
So now i had purchased 2 phone after various emails and complains, the only solution they told me was to send one of them back without opening it. and so i did. a max of 14 days was expected for the refund.
i called Several times in between those days ad said the payment should be coming soon, 16 days passed and nothing so i called again and sent google and email and i received a refund of $521 and not the $560 i paid. i emailed google and told them that the item was never opened and they told me i would get charged for restocking fees either and that it was never my fault to have purchased 2 phones rather than one.........
2 weeks later i receive the remaining refund of $40. a total of 1 month to get everything settled and i AM NOT RICH TO HAVE $600 taken for that long of a time.....
Not to mention, the other phone which i kept had the dust issue too, sent it back and received a brand new one cuz it was under the 14 days. but it had the same dust issue too. i just decided to keep it and every once in a while i get a piece of computer paper or note cards and clean it with it! YUP! thats what i do. UGhhhhh

Rusty! said:
I'd be disputing the purchase charge with my card issuer if I were you!
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Well thats another story which i dare not go into

minogue said:
I had a similar issue. i tried purchasing aNexus with my Paypal Card but since it was over $500, it was declined by paypal since i had some limitations!
then i used my bank accounts debit card and tried to purchase the phone again, the shopping cart showed me 1 Nexus one phone. very good, i went through with the purchase and a few hours later i receive an automatic email stating the first purchase has been re initiated since the card was changed.
So now i had purchased 2 phone after various emails and complains, the only solution they told me was to send one of them back without opening it. and so i did. a max of 14 days was expected for the refund.
i called Several times in between those days ad said the payment should be coming soon, 16 days passed and nothing so i called again and sent google and email and i received a refund of $521 and not the $560 i paid. i emailed google and told them that the item was never opened and they told me i would get charged for restocking fees either and that it was never my fault to have purchased 2 phones rather than one.........
2 weeks later i receive the remaining refund of $40. a total of 1 month to get everything settled and i AM NOT RICH TO HAVE $600 taken for that long of a time.....
Not to mention, the other phone which i kept had the dust issue too, sent it back and received a brand new one cuz it was under the 14 days. but it had the same dust issue too. i just decided to keep it and every once in a while i get a piece of computer paper or note cards and clean it with it! YUP! thats what i do. UGhhhhh
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Oh god im hearing some stories now ive posted this!
I have another story regarding the buying of it which is also a nightmare

Asus response to returns and fix defects, good or bad?

Hi,
For those who went over the RMA date on their Transformer, but had something crop up, how has Asus been about replacing/fixing it?
Did they just send you a new one if it's something small like the charger?
If you had to send in the tablet itself, are they pretty quick about returning it to you?
Long waits / run-arounds from customer service?
Are they admitting to your issue?
Any feedback would be nice.

Customer service is snappy. I said I had a problem, told the CS rep the problem, and then got an e-mail minutes later with RMA details.
Asus will usually just replace the tablet because it's considerably quicker, rather than "repairing" it. If you provide a good description of your problems with the device when returning it, you may get it repaired.
Screen problems are usually just replacements, rather than replacing the screen and sending back the tablet.
Dock issues are almost always replacements.
They admit to issues when you explain them well. Light bleed is a known problem with edge lit backlights and it is often unacceptable; they admit that. They admit the IPS displays occasionally ship with stuck or dead pixels. They also admit that certain batches were manufactured poorly and shipped with dust under the glass.
They're very honest that "Yes, your unit is defective. Our fault. We'll fix it."
Just expect to pay shipping to Texas. Otherwise, their RMA process is pretty good.

dorino1 said:
Customer service is snappy. I said I had a problem, told the CS rep the problem, and then got an e-mail minutes later with RMA details.
Asus will usually just replace the tablet because it's considerably quicker, rather than "repairing" it. If you provide a good description of your problems with the device when returning it, you may get it repaired.
Screen problems are usually just replacements, rather than replacing the screen and sending back the tablet.
Dock issues are almost always replacements.
They admit to issues when you explain them well. Light bleed is a known problem with edge lit backlights and it is often unacceptable; they admit that. They admit the IPS displays occasionally ship with stuck or dead pixels. They also admit that certain batches were manufactured poorly and shipped with dust under the glass.
They're very honest that "Yes, your unit is defective. Our fault. We'll fix it."
Just expect to pay shipping to Texas. Otherwise, their RMA process is pretty good.
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Asus customer service is a joke........ My status still shows "waiting for parts" on my dead screen which Asus has in their hands since June 13th....

dazz87 said:
Asus customer service is a joke........ My status still shows "waiting for parts" on my dead screen which Asus has in their hands since June 13th....
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I didn't comment on how long it took to get the whole processed finished. It's comparable to other tech companies I've worked with

dorino1 said:
I didn't comment on how long it took to get the whole processed finished. It's comparable to other tech companies I've worked with
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Which would be what?
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dazz87 said:
Asus customer service is a joke........ My status still shows "waiting for parts" on my dead screen which Asus has in their hands since June 13th....
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Same here, had to RMA it for the second time after they forgot to repair the tablet the first time and sended it back Why is Asus outsourcing this in Europ???

flight777 said:
Same here, had to RMA it for the second time after they forgot to repair the tablet the first time and sended it back Why is Asus outsourcing this in Europ???
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Did they pay for shipping the second time around?
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Screen problems are usually just replacements, rather than replacing the screen and sending back the tablet.
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Welp, looks like I'm in trouble then. I included a fairly lengthy list of issues. One of which was the light bleed and a stuck pixel and it looks like they're going to repair it, not replace it (contrary to what you're saying).
Unless I'm wrong. The status says "Repairing", is this normal if they're replacing it?

flight777 said:
Same here, had to RMA it for the second time after they forgot to repair the tablet the first time and sended it back Why is Asus outsourcing this in Europ???
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Wtf! how the hell could they forget to fix it when you send it in to their repair Center!!! Wow and I was thinking in purchasing a laptop from Asus in the future (UA21 which comes out in Sept) now I'm going to take my business somewhere else.

Every manufacturer has it's problems. The fact they are admitting there are problems and are working to fix them is great. Would you rather they give you a run around and not fix it? Hell LCD computer displays are usually not replaced/repaired unless there are more than eight dead/stuck pixels.

dazz87 said:
Wtf! how the hell could they forget to fix it when you send it in to their repair Center!!! Wow and I was thinking in purchasing a laptop from Asus in the future (UA21 which comes out in Sept) now I'm going to take my business somewhere else.
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others are no better...
to be honest, Asus is one of the best in the industry

So the known issues so far have been display, dock & ac adapter?
Display - light bleed, dead pixels, dust
AC Adapter - not charging?
Dock - What's wrong with these?
Anything else?

Screen/bezel creaking also....
mine is now in REPAIRING mode...whatever that means...i'd be shocked if they actually do any sort of repair in grapevine texas....i'm hoping they just pull a new one off the rack and send it to me...

Good luck with anyone that sending there tablet for a screen issue. I still waiting for a magical part.......looks like it could take up to 15 business day. Lol Asus had my tablet longer the I had it. Joke

flight777 said:
Same here, had to RMA it for the second time after they forgot to repair the tablet the first time and sended it back Why is Asus outsourcing this in Europ???
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So I'm not the only one! Just got it back and seems as if nothing is repaired! WHAT THE HELL is going on there in Czech rep. Speaker and accelerometer should have been fixed, but I got my TF returned in the same box as it left my house. I doubt if it even left the box !?

magicpork said:
others are no better...
to be honest, Asus is one of the best in the industry
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one of the best in what??? we have members who sent in their TF for repair and Asus send it back without fixing it!! If there are companies worst then this please name them.

krighton said:
Screen/bezel creaking also....
mine is now in REPAIRING mode...whatever that means...i'd be shocked if they actually do any sort of repair in grapevine texas....i'm hoping they just pull a new one off the rack and send it to me...
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I`m in the same path, light leak(photo, blurred, I dont know how to shoot at night ) and creaking left back cover.
They told me to send it to asus in Italy(bought there) to repair it!(not replace I suppose...)
I`m thinking if I`ll sent it, I`ll be without it for a month...and I need it for my trip to EU next month...

dazz87 said:
Good luck with anyone that sending there tablet for a screen issue. I still waiting for a magical part.......looks like it could take up to 15 business day. Lol Asus had my tablet longer the I had it. Joke
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where did you send yours......hopefully not texas

krighton said:
where did you send yours......hopefully not texas
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Texas...Why?

cause that's where i sent mine.....sigh....................hope they're not really trying to fix problems there, and ordering parts from taiwan.....they could have it for months.

My Story with handtec.....

OK. SO, This was my first dealing with handtec or any of the overseas online companies.
It was on the 5th of November that I bought a Galaxy Note from them. Before I actually made the purchase, I used the "live support" to ask them regarding the availability of the product and quality support they can offer me after the purchase. The chat was very professional and I even got a discount with the phone. I ended up getting the sim free version for the price of the network logo version.
Few weeks after I received my phone, I finally have the time to have a good look of my phone, I found 3 dead pixels on the screen. Man! was I devastated! (for those of you remember my thread about it). I used the live support again and they suggested me to return it back to them asap and ensured me that everything will be taken care of and not to worry. I remember the operator said to me "Don't worry, handtec will take care of you"
After about 4 days of sending back the phone (which is today ).....my tracking status showed the item was delivered. So I immediately use the live support again to ask them about whether or not they have got the phone. They said they have, so I asked them when they will be sending the replacement back to me. They said they will try to send the replacement today.
I told them that I hope the replacement phone that I will be getting will be without dead pixels. I don't want to have to pay the expensive return postage again. They said they can help me to gain a peace of mind by letting them open my box to check to make sure. So I agreed (it took me a while to make that decision as I have always like the feeling of opening a brand new package )
I then logged off the live support, but as soon I logged off...I was like...oh crap!
I forgot to tell them to wear a glove and also make sure that none of the protectors were taken off while they check my screen. So I logged back on in about a minute after I logged off and asked them not to take off any protectors. Guess what they said to my surprise?! (apparently, it was the same operator)...and he said the check has already been done, nothing is wrong with the phone, and it is going to the warehouse as we speak, ready to be sent out today, and I will be getting it early next week.....
WOW....they must be SUPERMEN or something close....so professional and efficient.....
At this point....I would never hesitate to buy from them again in the future because they are very professional, responsible and efficient...
I will let you guys know when I actually receive the replacement back from them......and hopefully by then, I can also say...yay...my screen is PERFECT too
Anyways...thanks for hearing me out....hope I get my lovely GNote back soon!!

My experience has been near the same with them, sans the dead pixels. I placed my order with them at 1:30 EST (Im in the US) on the 28th of November. Email conformations were quick and informative. On the 29th I received an email stating that because of my first time order with them, and that I was overseas, I needed to answer some additional security questions (Credit Card Bank Authorization number, etc.) I responded quickly to this, and they continued the vetting process. I ended up calling them to be sure they had everything. They were very polite and helpful on the phone. Rather than continue to delay the shipment, they asked that they be able to send the shipment to my work address so that they didnt have to wait for the security team to validate my home address with my CC. Because of the time difference between the US and UK, they werent able to ship it on Tuesday. I checked my tracking number on Wednesday and found that they sprung for overnight AM shipping! So Thursday morning my package comes in (my only complaint here is that they didnt ship it in a box, it in a loose bubble envelope). All has been working great since! No dead pixels, and this phone is simply amazing!
Hats off to Handtec for doing it right!

Bought both SGS II and the Note from handtec. I'm probably going to continue the trend with Galaxy S III. Despite what some people say about handtec not selling "UK" version of the note, it's not like it matters much here in the US
Both times, my phones arrived in less than 24 hours from UK!!!

Glad to hear there are good experiences with them, I will have to try them out on my next phone Galaxy S3? xD

plasket said:
My experience has been near the same with them, sans the dead pixels. I placed my order with them at 1:30 EST (Im in the US) on the 28th of November. Email conformations were quick and informative. On the 29th I received an email stating that because of my first time order with them, and that I was overseas, I needed to answer some additional security questions (Credit Card Bank Authorization number, etc.) I responded quickly to this, and they continued the vetting process. I ended up calling them to be sure they had everything. They were very polite and helpful on the phone. Rather than continue to delay the shipment, they asked that they be able to send the shipment to my work address so that they didnt have to wait for the security team to validate my home address with my CC. Because of the time difference between the US and UK, they werent able to ship it on Tuesday. I checked my tracking number on Wednesday and found that they sprung for overnight AM shipping! So Thursday morning my package comes in (my only complaint here is that they didnt ship it in a box, it in a loose bubble envelope). All has been working great since! No dead pixels, and this phone is simply amazing!
Hats off to Handtec for doing it right!
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How did you reach them on the phone? I tried to call them many times, but all end up being referred to go to the website.
How can the package get there overnight? wow

what version of the note are they selling?? and where is it made (although i'm not quite sure what problems are inherent with which manufacturing site)

DMax99 said:
.....So I logged back on in about a minute after I logged off and asked them not to take off any protectors. Guess what they said to my surprise?! (apparently, it was the same operator)...and he said the check has already been done, nothing is wrong with the phone, and it is going to the warehouse as we speak, ready to be sent out today....
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I agree that Handtec is a good/reliable company and also no offense to you but seriously..? In a minute? Come on... Since you said they asked for permission for opening it I assume it was opened/checked after you close the chat.
Lets see:
Closing chat with you and email or phone the Service Dept to check the phone? Time: 1-3min
Service Dept: Find your phone or any phone that will be sent, open box, open back cover and put presumably a used battery in it and start it up? Time: 5-10m if they haven't anything else to do.
Doing some quick tests directly on the phone or connected to the PC? I will give it another 3-8min because some pre-requirements might be needed.
Tests done and ready to ship, shutting phone down, removing back cover, out the battery, backcover on, phone in box closed, report made for the phone(not always), everything ready to sent and finally in it's way to the "warehouse"? Add another 10-20min
We are looking at about 20-40minutes if everything goes smoothtly. No offense OP but some common sense doesn't hurt here. Many people might jump to wrong conclusions reading that.
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WOW....they must be SUPERMEN or something close....so professional and efficient.....
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You are just being sarcastic aren't you...? Please tell me you are!
Also please, this post in not directed to you OP. But at Handtec.

koniakki said:
I agree that Handtec is a good/reliable company and also no offense to you but seriously..? In a minute? Come on... Since you said they asked for permission for opening it I assume it was opened/checked after you close the chat.
Lets see:
Closing chat with you and email or phone the Service Dept to check the phone? Time: 1-3min
Service Dept: Find your phone or any phone that will be sent, open box, open back cover and put presumably a used battery in it and start it up? Time: 5-10m if they haven't anything else to do.
Doing some quick tests directly on the phone or connected to the PC? I will give it another 3-8min because some pre-requirements might be needed.
Tests done and ready to ship, shutting phone down, removing back cover, out the battery, backcover on, phone in box closed, report made for the phone(not always), everything ready to sent and finally in it's way to the "warehouse"? Add another 10-20min
We are looking at about 20-40minutes if everything goes smoothtly. No offense OP but some common sense doesn't hurt here. Many people might jump to wrong conclusions reading that.
You are just being sarcastic aren't you...? Please tell me you are!
Also please, this post in not directed to you OP. But at Handtec.
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LOL....It is TRUE....when I was on the chat the first time I have already given him the permission to check the phone. I don't know how their company works, but when I logged back on (maybe about 30 seconds to 1 minutes after) He told me the phone has already been checked.
BTW....They only said they would check the screen with my new replacement phone as the problem with my faulty phone was with the dead pixels on the screen.
But seriously I am not sure how the company works.....I am suspecting that the company is quite small. So maybe their warehouse and return department are the same department, and maybe there are only a few people working in the company with each person doing multiple things. Therefore, it take less time for communication. I really believe they try to make their company look bigger than what it really is.
Finally, I was not being sarcastic when I told them they are supermen. I really thought that they were really efficient.
ps. all the things I have told you are what they have told me on the chat. who knows what really happened over there on the other side of the world.

They were pretty easy to get ahold of. I called their number that was listed on the website, reached an automated prompt, chose sales support and waited a few minutes on hold. Guy picked up pretty quickly. They have hours from like 7-5:30 UK time
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You people must be really lucky to get the phone delivered so fast. I ordered mine with some accessories on the 29th, I have yet to get it. Fedex status says clearance delay. First, Customs wanted an itemized breakdown with value. Then they want an FCC form. Having sent many phones to the U.S, I would have expected Handtec to know what documents are required to get through Customs.
That aside their customer service is pretty good so far. I'm just frustrated I didn't have the phone over the weekend.

So finally received my gnote.
Powered up got the OTA and now I'm enjoying it. Handtec even credited my credit card because the price has dropped since I purchased it.
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My replacement should get here by tomorrow

Ok....so I have finally received the replacement back from handtec. They have also given me a Travel Power Adapter as a gift. I think they have given me that because the phone was supposed to be sent to me last Friday but didn't end up getting sent on Monday (not really a big deal to me though).
I have quickly turned on the phone to check the screen and it looks fine. I am pretty sure it's a German version as there is a German Manual in the Box plus, the phone was in German when it first booted up. It is kind of weird because everything on the back of the box is in English and even says UK at the buttom.
Anyways...I will start using the phone tonight after it's being charged fully and with a screen protector on. Hopefully there will be nothing wrong with this handset
I must say this again at the end....I am very satisfied with handtec's customer service. I will definitely buy from them again!

KB Dock keys unresponsive: Yet another horrid ASUS RMA story

I'm on my third RMA with ASUS for the Transformer... I figure some of you might want to hear my experience with ASUS service.
As the title above states, my dock's keys do not respond. The battery charges, the Ports work, and the touchpad works without a problem.
I'm a pretty tech-savvy guy, a back-seat hacker, if you must. Thus, the only thing that has kept me from opening this thing and jiggling the ribbon connectors is the warranty. So, I decided to send it in for RMA.
I get the kb dock back two weeks later. I was extremely disappointed when I docked the tablet to find that the problem was there right out of the box. They had "run diagnostics" and had not found anything wrong with it. Obviously, they missed something.
Well, I like to think that I'm a pretty reasonable guy, so I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt. "Hmm..." I thought... "maybe the problem is in the tablet itself and not the kb..." So, I call for the 2nd RMA and sent it along with the dock. To this shipment, I've had to spend $130 in shipping charges so far. To add insult to injury, they had it ready on a Friday, but I had to call in the following Wednesday to ask them to please ship my tablet since it was just sitting there. I got it the next day via FedEx.
I received my tablet the day before yesterday along with the dock. Once again, upon opening the packages, the keyboard keys were unresponsive; the merchandise had been returned to me in exactly the same state I sent it in.
I immediately got on the phone with ASUS, and the tech on the phone told me they had once again ruin diagnostics and had found no problems, and that I'd have to send it in again. I, understandably, was furious, and explained to him that I would not spend a single penny in shipping since they had my tablet and my dock and didn't bother to replicate my issue, and added that even if my tablet and my dock did pass their diagnostics with flying colors I didn't care if MY dock doesn't work with MY tablet. After talking to his supervisor a
RMA service center magically appeared 5 minutes from my house!
So, now i have my third RMA in the works for Monday. Hopefully this is the last, but realistically I think the picture is bound to complicate itself.
Bottom line with ASUS service... You get the picture... Draw your own conclusions

Thats terrible man. Bad enough you got a device thats defective, but making you pay to ship it and then NOT FIXING IT is unforgivable. Next step should be shipping it back to them with a well written letter outlining everything and 'keep it' at the end. Then doing a chargeback on your credit card. Any subsequent attempts to ding your credit would be resolved by submitting same letter to credit-reporting agencies. Just my $0.02.
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This actually sounds like a good idea! Have you done this before?

rivera151 said:
This actually sounds like a good idea! Have you done this before?
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yeah dude this is why we have credit cards. you get the backing of a multi billion dollar company when you have problem with merchants. it's your right to file a chargeback.
if you have amex or visa they will replace/refund you even if asus doesn't. in particular, amex will double the warranty up to 1 year plus stolen/damage protection. My sister's ipod broke(white screen upon boot, 3rd gen nano) and amex sent my dad a check for $150 no questions asked. didn't even need to send the broken ipod in.
don't let yourself be held hostage by asus because of poor support or bad product
unfortunately i bought my first transformer with Discover card and they wouldn't cover it when it got stolen . i called AMEX and they said they would have refuned me!

UPDATE: Service center next to my home doesn't service equipment bought at Best Buy. Thus, had to call ASUS to reschedule RMA. Now, they tell me that if I download and install atk driver, the problem will be fixed.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?

rivera151 said:
This actually sounds like a good idea! Have you done this before?
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Haha no, I've actually had great luck with mine, I just give good advice. Only real issue for me has been screen dead spots, solved by touching the metal bezel of the tablet.
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I had my device stuck in RMA hell twice for a total of about 2 months. I originally sent it in for a white "cloudy" spot that developed on the screen. Got it back two weeks later with the worst back light bleed I've ever seen. Sent it back out that same day and it was stuck with their techs who repeatedly claimed no trouble found. Asked to speak to supervisors and was promised a call within "24 - 48 hours". I'd call back every 3 days telling the I never received the promised call, and they said the solution was to wait ANOTHER 24-48 hours. After about a month and a half they finally replaced my LCD and sent it back to me, but I'm disgusted with ASUS at this point.
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Yeah, going through the same thing. I sent it back on an RMA because it totally died after the ICS update, they flashed ICS on it again (and it died again within 4 hours), sent it back again and now they've had it for about a month. I don't really care since I bought a Samsung Tab in the meantime which seems to be built a lot better and hasn't given me any problems - but I would like to get it back at some point to sell it. I've pretty much sworn off buying anything made by Asus based on my bad luck with the transformer and dock. This lack of customer service may be acceptable in China, but it's a good way for a company to crash and burn in the US and EU.

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This lack of customer service may be acceptable in China, but it's a good way for a company to crash and burn in the US and EU.
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Are you implying that somehow Chinese people are ok with lack of customer service?
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I was finally able to hook my tablet up to another dock. guess what? the problem is in the tablet. the dock at the store behaved exactly like my dock. so I guess I am still stuck in rma hell without a tablet.

Worse Customer Support EVER!!

Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.

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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Theres clearly stock issues all over. Atleast they have agreed to give you a refund or a replacement dont see they issue of why they are the worst customer support. They could turn around and not replace your phone as you caused the issue....

Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.

Bummer, but might show up sooner...

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Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.

its ridiculous how they are trying to screw the customer over. I have bought every oneplus device since the 3 and i have called everyday and they told me today that if i dont return the headphones they will charge me for the free gifts so i have to return them if i wanted a refund and i asked if i received this new device and something was wrong would i be able to get a new device or have it replaced and they said no cause after May 31st i would receive a refurbished device and will not be able to get a refund for any purpose. I am honestly over it and thinking about switching to the pixel just because i have never had this issue when returning an item to them.

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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best

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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.

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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.

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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.

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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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Nah I get you. Tbh any company can act in this way. I've only had to contact OnePlus 2 times and they were good.
It's the situation I think that's causing problems. Personally I'd hold fire and let it come back. Just get one of them to say that it'll happen and you'll be fine.
Or not. Just get a refund and bite the bullet on the bullets, could probably get a Xiaomi or similar device for the remainder of the money

Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.

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Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..

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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Thanks bud I have most the chat logs in my email so that's one thing but OnePlus has a special response team that only the call reps can contact and without them contacting them they just repeat same thing.

So let me get this straight. You were having battery issues so instead of doing a factory reset or contacting customer support you took it upon yourself to root the device causing more issues? Now you're mad at OnePlus because you're getting some sort of a run around because OnePlus devices are sold out?
To be honest if it were me I wouldn't be so reluctant to hand out a free phone or a refund after you caused more issues than just battery drain. The initial problem could have been possibly fixed fairly easily had you have not tinkered with the phone. After you rooted the device they tried to flash it and it wouldn't work and you're saying it's somehow oneplus' fault? Yikes
Guess this should be a lesson learned. Don't Tinker with a device that has issues and expect 100% full compliance from the manufacturer. Just for an example I have a warranty on my vehicle and I was told if I do any self repairs my warranty is voided. You should just be happy they're offering you what they have since you have already said it was you that caused the problems outside of the battery drain.
Oh and let's not forget the fact that you want OnePlus to give you money for free items that you received when purchasing the phone. I mean for real they were free..

Update still no refund.

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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.

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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.

Dewaynelives said:
Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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So you're waiting for a refund or a replacement? Did you send everything back? If you send everything back and haven't gotten the refund, dispute it with your credit card company.
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Request replacement they told me to change it to refund cause it would be two months for a replacement and still nothing. If you want proof message me I'll send you proof. I sent everything back I have screenshotted the chats and all.