I am a bit confused with the restore option on a rooted device. The Clockworkmod has a restore option, but the developer of Clockwormod also point to Acer Recovery Installer APP.
Why is that? If I can use Clockwormod to restore, what is the need of a seperate program? I am sure that i am missing something, else there would not be a reference in the Clockworkmod to the recovery installer.
Besides these 2 restores, there are also programs like Titanium restore. Is that just a restore option on top of the above 2 options? In that Titanium lets you select individual apps.
These are probably a bit noob questions but I just rooted today and cant figure this out.
Acer Recovery Installer App: Installs Clockworkmod recovery and can do a backup/restore of the old image.
Clockwormod: Backs up all the other images (the ones that hold the OS info,...)
Titanium backup: Backs up apps and their data.
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Sorry for the noob question.. I just rooted my phone and still learning the lingo. I just did a backup by opening up ROM Manager and choosing its option to backup. It went into Clockwork Recovery, which looks similar to a Nandroid backup. Are they different?
I believe they are the same thing. I use Rom Manager as well.
Yes Rom Manager simply drops down into Recovery and performs the Nandroid Backup/Restore.
I prefer to restore directly from Recovery using Rom Manager. Boot to Recovery just to insure there isn't a way for Rom Manager to glitch during the restore. Its glitched on me once personally, but once was enough for me to say I 100% trust the backup, but I'll drop down into Recovery and restore my own.
Great app
Noob here. It doesn't "seem" like Acer Recovery is actually making backups of my ROMs. I'm really missing something either in terminology or execution and I'd like to understand what it is.
I don't know how to explain it other than to relate exactly what happened
I purchased one A500, but had to return it. I kept the backups taken with Acer Recovery, all Build A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
Got a new tab with Build Acer_A500_4.010.07_COM_GEN2
I immediately did a full backup:
Root (Iconiaroot 1.3)
Acer Recovery Installer
select "ClockworkMod Recovery rev1.3.4 by thor2002ro"
click "Install Recovery Image"
click "Yes" when asked to backup the current image!!!
Reboot into CW recovery.
Create a full backup: "backup and restore" -> "Full Backup"
The backup proceeded normally.
Rather than re-installing everything, I restored one of the backups from the old tab with Build A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
Backup installed fine, but instead of Build A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2, I had Acer_A500_4.010.07_COM_GEN2, the same as the new tab.
I thought that was odd and I still don't know why it happened, but as I had just made a fresh new backup, I let the new tab go through the OTA updates to Build A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
Got everything working OK and decided to restore my new stock backup and make fresh incrementals of all the OTA updates.
Restored the original backup and now my original backup shows Build A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2 instead of the original Build Acer_A500_4.010.07_COM_GEN2.
From these two instances, it doesn't "seem" like Acer Recovery is actually backing up or restoring the original ROM.
What is it that I'm either missing or don't understand about this process?
Thanks
If I understand the process, Acer Recovery will make backups of your recovery image. CWM does a full backup of ROM/kernel.
So, I'm not sure if I understand where you are restoring from.
If you restore through the Acer Recovery Installer, you should be just getting the old recovery image.
If you restore through the CWM menus after botting into recovery, then you are doing a full restore.
First.. it's not Acer recovery installer that's giving you the issue. The backup and restore are functions of clockworkmod.
The problem was that your flexrom did not get restored due to a bug that I demonstrated on thor's clockworkmod thread.
When doing a restore that restores data.img, it will also attempt to restore .android_secure.img and will fail, skipping flexrom which is supposed to follow. I bet you don't ever see the "Restore Successful" message after a full restore.
You need to either delete .android_secure.img from your backup set or restore flexrom separately.
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PS. Clockworkmod does not backup anything from /data/media
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So how to do a full backup of the image and restore if not from cwm.
Euclid's Brother said:
You need to either delete .android_secure.img from your backup set or restore flexrom separately.
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Thanks Euclid,
Sorry about the confusion in the thread title. I thought Acer Recovery Installer had several functions: backup and restore recovery images and load CWM recovery to do the actual backup and recovery. Since I thought it did both, I assumed it was O.K. to use Acer Recovery Installer generically.
I did another restore to check what was done:
Fixing a500 Boot/recovery Checksums...
Running itsmagic
Done
Checking MD5 sums...
Erasing boot before restore
Restoring Boot Image
Restoring System
Restoring Data
Done
Screen refreshed to "Reboot Now".
As you said no "Restore Complete" message.
I wonder how many people including myself, assumed that the restore had completed successfully when they got the "done" message?
Both fixes worked well. I hope this helps someone else.
Below is the text from within CWM Recovery when .android_secure.img was deleted from the backup folder and a restore was run:
Fixing a500 Boot/recovery Checksums...
Running itsmagic
Done!
Checking MD5 sums...
Erasing boot before restore
Restoring Boot Image
Restoring System
Restoring Data
.android_secure.img not found, Skipping restore of /sdcard/.android_secure.
Restoring cache
Restoring flextrom
Restore Complete!
Restored my original stock ROM. So nice of it to ask me to update to a newer version immediately after the restore!
I did have one problem. I tried deleting .android_secure.img while rooted, using ES File Explorer with the Root Explorer and Mount File System options selected. I could never see the file on my external SD in the clockworkmod/backup
folder, so I pulled the card and manuall deleted it from my PC. I'm curios as to why this happened, but it didn't affect the result.
It was just as easy using backup and restore/advanced restore/your restore folder/ - Restore flexrom from within CWM Recovery.
I've read hundreds of post, in I don't know how many threads, sticky's included and never saw the advice about deleting .android_secure.img, manually restoring flexrom or even checking to make sure that you got "Restore Complete" I wish these things were part of an updated guide.
Lesson learned,
Thanks again
Just wondering, is there anyone working on a new recovery which will complete backups and restores without additional deletions, etc.?
bug was in thors post
The bug was mentioned.but I don't think there was much discussion about it.I don't think Thor acknowledged or tried ti fix.
With that said I could be incorrect. I however even with the bug think its a awesome tool.don't. Consider this as complaint.
Its like on page 3 or 4of the Thor recovery thread if im not mistaken
The blonde chic erica Renee
Yeah we need something reliable when restoring from backup. I tried once, cwm sees it but can't do the restore so I gave up even though I had all my apps backed up so did all one by one.
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hello
I want to uninstall RA recovery 3.16 to go back to normal acer recovery CWM
I made a backup with CWM and I can't install it with RA.Maybe I made an error trying flashing RA.otherwise how can I do that???
thank's
edit : nevermind find the thor cwm and flash it but I have always my problem with market
rayman95 said:
hello
I want to uninstall RA recovery 3.16 to go back to normal acer recovery CWM
I made a backup with CWM and I can't install it with RA.Maybe I made an error trying flashing RA.otherwise how can I do that???
thank's
edit : nevermind find the thor cwm and flash it but I have always my problem with market
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I don't know of it possible with RA but with Thor cwm you can do the real format , did you try that now for your market problems.
I have still my market problem
I am now on CWR 5.0.0.0 (thor2002ro rev 1.3.4)
I move before to RA but I can't restore my backup I do the day I buy the tablet so i move back to CWR
I do restore on android 3.0 and I arrive to open market but said error server
so Im back on your rom with same problem
I don't arrive to change the market apk in system/app with ES explorateur.it saids impossible to delete and copy phonesky
and with your method for erase completly I have always my internal content
so i made errors and that's always the same S...T
in CWR 5.0 in backup and restore I have
full backup, full restore, advanced backup, advanced restore and go back
I don't have the choice toggle backup internal...
the only I have is inside advanced backup ,all categories are on yes (backup boot, recovery,system,data,cache,sd-ext,flexrombct+ebt+pt+gp1)
I don't know what to do
thank's and sorry for inconvinience again
Hey all, I updated to a beta of Paranoid Android that screwed up everything. I created a backup ( and actually have several more older ones) with ClockworkMod Recovery. The very latest backup will not restore for whatever reason, but the main issue is that it's the only backup I can even see.
All the other backup folders don't even show up in recovery. Accessing /sdcard/ I can see them all. Any ideas on how to restore?
Actually, the one backup that CWM Recovery shows, I can't see under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/
I'm guessing CWM Recovery is pointed in the wrong directory..?
So I'm using the normal rom and wanted to install cm14 and was totally confused about the best and simplest way to backup and restore stuff.
Then I read this in the cm blog and got even more confused :/
Points to NOTE:
– Try to avoid restoring apps backup using Titanium Backup. It may break things up.
– Don’t restore system data using Titanium Backup! It will definitely break the current installation.
– It is also discouraged to Restoring Apps + Data using Titanium Backup.
Twrp does backups safestrap also does and flashfire also makes backups also Philz touch recovery aka cwm these should all work for you
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For me personally I would ignore those statements, I have used titanium backup since the past two years and have not had any issues. Although you will need to make sure you adhere to it's instructions.
I would recommend
Doing nandroids from the custom recovery before installing anything from recovery or switching to another rom, because it is a lot easier to restore a nandroid than having to, install the rom and gapps, customise the settings to your preference, reinstalling all the apps from fresh and so on. Which is great because you just continue where you left off before you decided to do a nandroid.
Use titanium backup to backup apps and data, also there are options to save your WIFI network settings and sms threads. So when you do a new custom rom / stock rom flash all you have to worry about is configuring the android settings.