Recently I've been addicted to rainbow 6 multiplayer on my xperia play. I've noticed that I have a much easier time aiming and headshots then other players... Chances are they are gaming on a regular touchsphone, scrambling to aim at me but die before they can shoot.
At a record of 1887 to 817 deaths, it's safe to say because of the keypad advantage, I am better then other players. How are you guys coping with fps??? I was never good at fps but I get records like 100-26 with 42 kills being headshots
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I would also like to add that I am extremely happy with this phone, for the simple fact that it's for gamers.. Casual or not the gamepad really enriches the experience... It's sad that sony releases this when they are struggling and don't promote or back it properly... If it was samsung that released it, I'm sure it will dominate the entire cellphone gaming market
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Ya they definitely released it at the wrong time, or atleast should of worked more on the release games...but i think its a fantastic phone, the gamepad is beautiful, playing first person shooters against any touch screen players does put you a step ahead, i personal like nova 2 never really enjoyed the modern combat, felt really awkward to play. Probably the best part of the phone is being able to play ANY emulator on your phone at perfect speed with a proper gamepad, doesnt get much better than that! Personally loving the playstation emulator and snes! - Kes
Deoxlar said:
Recently I've been addicted to rainbow 6 multiplayer on my xperia play. I've noticed that I have a much easier time aiming and headshots then other players... Chances are they are gaming on a regular touchsphone, scrambling to aim at me but die before they can shoot.
At a record of 1887 to 817 deaths, it's safe to say because of the keypad advantage, I am better then other players. How are you guys coping with fps??? I was never good at fps but I get records like 100-26 with 42 kills being headshots
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Owning on rainbow 6 is good fun
Im very disapointed in the way gameloft have applied the right touch pad, all they have done is use it to emulate screen swipes, i dont understand why they cannot use it to emulate an analogue stick like they do with the left one! Like on battle bears
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Im very disapointed in the way gameloft have applied the right touch pad, all they have done is use it to emulate screen swipes, i dont understand why they cannot use it to emulate an analogue stick like they do with the left one! Like on battle bears
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I agree. I am going to eamil them for an update. I have all the gameloft shooters.
The bear one is a lot of fun.
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Ya they definitely released it at the wrong time, or atleast should of worked more on the release games...but i think its a fantastic phone, the gamepad is beautiful, playing first person shooters against any touch screen players does put you a step ahead, i personal like nova 2 never really enjoyed the modern combat, felt really awkward to play. Probably the best part of the phone is being able to play ANY emulator on your phone at perfect speed with a proper gamepad, doesnt get much better than that! Personally loving the playstation emulator and snes! - Kes
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Yea the emulators are awesome on it. I can't imagine people playing Mario 64 on just touchscreen... It must be very hard and awkward to use the Z bottom... I mapped mine to L2, so it's awesome
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Im very disapointed in the way gameloft have applied the right touch pad, all they have done is use it to emulate screen swipes, i dont understand why they cannot use it to emulate an analogue stick like they do with the left one! Like on battle bears
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I find it much easier to swipe scroll like what they do now. It makes it easier and faster to turn while giving you perfect accuracy for precision when needed
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I find it much easier to swipe scroll like what they do now. It makes it easier and faster to turn while giving you perfect accuracy for precision when needed
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Faster? I don't find that. If the guy is behind you then you have to swipe a lot of times. By then you are as good as dead.
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Im very disapointed in the way gameloft have applied the right touch pad, all they have done is use it to emulate screen swipes, i dont understand why they cannot use it to emulate an analogue stick like they do with the left one! Like on battle bears
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This.
Swipe look is rubbish. It's the one and only thing that ruins fps's enjoyability on the Xperia Play for me at the moment.
Unfortunately Gameloft is only FPS option at the moment. Just like the Ipad 2. They make all these grand promises of great games like Infinity blade yet there hasn’t been any games like it since.
Edit: Has anyone tried Modern Warfare 2?
You guys are screwed the new PSP is on its way and it stole all marketing from the play. Actually the play had a great buzz as far as the web goes but that's as far as it went.
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Not really "screwed" just getting the phone for gamepad emulators is already worth it.
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Not really "screwed" just getting the phone for gamepad emulators is already worth it.
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You are right but I did buy the phone for more. I was hoping for PSP games like God Of War. If it doesn't get any more support I may switch back to my 3GS and give this one to my daughter to play games on.
Finally got around to playing Rainbow 6 (great that it was free!).
Seems like top fun online.
Went in blind, straight into multiplayer not know controls etc and managed 11 kills and 12 deaths on the Play. That might not seem good, but it's good for me in an FPS.
Also turned the horrid music off, made it feel a bit like Counterstrike...how good would that be on Android btw?
Can see myself playing Rainbow 6 a lot now.
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You guys are screwed the new PSP is on its way and it stole all marketing from the play. Actually the play had a great buzz as far as the web goes but that's as far as it went.
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The PSVita and the XPlay are two entirely different devices. The Xplay replaces your phone, ergo you have it on you at all time. It's not a gaming beast like the PSVita, but the battery lasts all day, you can do all your phone stuff on it, and when you are in the mood for games there are a myriad of choices and they all play awesome because you have physical buttons rather than just a touch screen.
The PSVita is great for places where you actually plan to bring it. Like flights, ferry rides, etc
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You guys are screwed the new PSP is on its way and it stole all marketing from the play. Actually the play had a great buzz as far as the web goes but that's as far as it went.
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I only bought the phone for emulators originally. I didnt even care about the playstation store. All i wanted to do was play some snes/megadrive/mame games on my telephone. You can not play these games on touchscreen only. Totally uncontrollable.
Didnt even know gameloft were porting to the xperia play. Got alot more than i bargained for. Some (Most?) Gameloft games are very awesome.
Being able to play mobile phone games and even browse the internet with the control pad is way better and more fun than any touch screen only on the market atm.
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Unfortunately Gameloft is only FPS option at the moment. Just like the Ipad 2. They make all these grand promises of great games like Infinity blade yet there hasn’t been any games like it since.
Edit: Has anyone tried Modern Warfare 2?
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You mean, Modern Combat 2 - Black Pegasis
And yes, its by far the best FPS on android currently, online is great, love CTF on Avalanche, Ranked 48 At the moment, i just cant put it down
Only typing this because the host is choosing a new map
I got this phone for the emu. Games we played years ago and we still are playing them. Screw anything new.
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You are right but I did buy the phone for more. I was hoping for PSP games like God Of War. If it doesn't get any more support I may switch back to my 3GS and give this one to my daughter to play games on.
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You Serious? My 3GS with it's tiny screen is gathering dust.
The Play has had much better support than I thought it would, just GameLoft games have been keeping me busy. Its only been out two months give it time.
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Just wondering, how many people on here play Minecraft? What you guys think. I started plaintiff a few weeks ago and I'm hooked. Can't wait foe the android version. I've seen the video trailer and it looks like Minecraft classic. Do you think they'll keep it at that or will they add in the current beta mode?
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I never have played it but it looks amazing. I'm excited for the XPlay version.
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Ive never understood the appeal of minecraft.......
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Ive never understood the appeal of minecraft.......
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It's like Lego's on the computer with livestock. The world is wrong wit chu?
I think it does look fun, but I think I would get bored fast.
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I like Minecraft, and the Xperia Play version better have Redstone!
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Big fan of minecraft. Run a server for me and some chums. Virgin Media though so the upload speed is dire but ok for 4 people..
Love it. Awesome game.
Yeah I run a server for me and a friend. You guys think it'll just be clsassic mode on XP? Hope not
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I'm going to try it when it comes. I'm more looking forward to Ruin though. I think it is called Ruin. Golden sands or something.
I'm in a local server with 9 friends. It's awesome. Can't wait for it.
Play. It.
What's ruin?
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I'm not trying to be negative.
I am looking forward to seeing Minecraft come to Xperia play, I love what xperia play has done for gamers so far.
I have an xplay and have been extremely upset about the right joyPAD on a number of games. I've been hoping that notch will make it work better in his game.
Unfortunately after watching a pretty official video I can tell that he did NOT create a solution for Minecraft on xperia play. I'm talking about a solution for the amount of swiping you need to do to the right joystick.
Look at the you tube video called 'Minecraft gameplay on Xperia PLAY'
I'll point out the amazing Gameloft shooters like nova 2, rainbow six and modern combat.
In these games the LEFT joyPAD DOES NOT act the same as the right joyPad and that is a huge issue. A lot of people have issues with this.
With the LEFT joypad you can constantly strafe or move forwards/backwards without taking your thumb off. The Right joypad is the opposite, you have to swipe over and over to make your character do a full turn.
YES you can change sensitivity but when you are millimetre away from a head shot and you try to correct you will over correct. Nova 2 does a good job at auto aim but that is not good enough.
At first I thought that this was just overlooked by the designers but it’s so obvious that they must have made the decision to stick with swiping and not give any option.
It’s not hard to get used to swiping but it’s still dumb. I won’t say games are unplayable but they become un-enjoyable. I payed for Gameloft games and I can see how good the quality is...I just wish I could play them and get excited about them. I wish they would patch the controls.
I am still hoping notch will fix the swiping issue or at least give an option. I have a really hard time believing that it’s the hardware or the right Joypad can’t be reprogrammed.
I’m an indie designer and just want the best for games and the future of games.
I really hope someone working on minecraft reads this.
Maybe I should post this somewhere else because it isn't JUST about Minecraft
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What's ruin?
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Maybe it is not called Ruin. It is a God of War type game.
In these games the right joyPAD DOES NOT act the same as the right joyPad and that is a huge issue. A lot of people have issues with this.
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Myself included.
I have a really hard time believing that it’s the hardware or the right Joypad can’t be reprogrammed.
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Download the sample Bear shooting game. It is the right stick done right. So much fun but the graphics suck.
Devestated to find out it's creative mode:
Objective and Gameplay
The objective of the game remains the same as its original PC and Xbox counterparts, where players can build virtual realities in a sandbox-like environment.
Based on available material, the gameplay of the pocket edition is akin to that of the Creative gamemode, with minor differences such as blocks being shown as 2D textures, ladders and maybe more.
@Indieastro - I don't know how many times you compared the Right Joypad to the Right Joypad, instead of the Left Joypad, but I see what you mean. TBH, I would prefer for Minecraft to have the swipe controls rather than true analog sticks! I haven't played much classic, but I don't think there's monsters? You will be in No rush to be turning quickly, and as such for placing blocks and the likes, a swipe would be much more accurate!
Love the game, I run a server for a bunch of people so far we have 25 unique players with 50 slots.
I already have the ability to control a minecraft server from my phone, cant wait to be able to play from it too.
What you mean control it from your phone? boot people, give items the likes? What's the app?
When I first saw Minecraft I was like...
"Is this the 80's?"
and still wonder what the appeal is... But look forward to trying it on Xperia Play to see what the fuss is about.
Yeah its class. Also I'm relatively sure Minecraft uses swipes. Check out the demo video.
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What you mean control it from your phone? boot people, give items the likes? What's the app?
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It is a bukkit plugin along with an app that communicates with the plugin.
I can change night to day, chat with the people on the server, whitelist people, kick people, ban people, do any console command I want.
http://www.kaltner.net/Projects/MinecraftMobileAdmin.aspx
I guess SMP will not be in the XPlay version of Minecraft, which is sad.
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I guess SMP will not be in the XPlay version of Minecraft, which is sad.
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Yes. It's ****
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Unlike the Arc in the UK the Play seems to have experienced a sharp drop in price, it's not hard to find a SIM free version for sub £300. The only reason I can think for this is poor sales. Would I be right in that assumption?
Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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I bought my play when it first came out for £300 so it's not that much of a price drop
Problem with the play is, its a niche device, it only appeals to hardcore gamers......
But as a device i cant really fault it, its fast, looks good, plays games great even though many would say it lacks power, the gps is amazing......
Think of it like the sega dreamcast a bit of an underated gem
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Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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The playstation store hasnt gone live yet thats why it's not availible in all countries It's still in beta
FPse works awsome on the play wth
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Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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I dunno if I'd say support has been weak seeing as they secured the three biggest titles exclusively for it: minecraft, Fifa and Dead space.
Wait for pan support and then you'll see what It was meant to be.
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The price has dropped significantly here in the US as well. Sony really bungled this one. The device just recently started to be advertised (and that was after the price drop and moreso as a "cheap" phone since its only 99 bucks) and even supporters like myself are a bit frustrated because there really is no support by SE here, while there have been 9 or 10 playstation game releases in Europe, some are not available at all, and the rest are visible in the market but carrier locked for some strange reason. The Playstation suite is not available yet as well.
Maybe they are waiting to market it once the Suite is ready so theres a lot of features and games up for sale, but at that point the device will be almost dead.
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The playstation store hasnt gone live yet thats why it's not availible in all countries It's still in beta
FPse works awsome on the play wth
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But an average bob who wants to play tekken , Spyro, gt WILL finding it confusing on how to use emulators. It's not as user friendly as playstation pocket, where customers browse et buy
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Think of it like the sega dreamcast a bit of an underated gem
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You can say that again.
The Xperia PLAY not only stopped me from caring about dual-cores, but it's performance has left so little to be desired that I finally get to re-imagine my iPhone favorites as real games with real controls, and have a device so versatile that I didn't just replace my phone, I haven't been playing my PSP/DS as much :\
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You can say that again.
The Xperia PLAY not only stopped me from caring about dual-cores, but it's performance has left so little to be desired that I finally get to re-imagine my iPhone favorites as real games with real controls, and have a device so versatile that I didn't just replace my phone, I haven't been playing my PSP/DS as much :\
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PSP................... Oh s**t i majorly forgot i had one of those . I totally agree, i only really game on my Xplay, Xbox or Ps3 now. The play may not be a dedicated gaming device but it scratches the itch i get when im out and about. It fast enough to play anything i want it to. Enough said.
@ Cat_On_Droid. Anyone who doesnt know how to use it (fpse) will normally search for info on how to. Googling Fpse guides brings up more than enough info on how to use/set up. If you can use a normal emulator like Gameboid etc. Then using FPSE is not much harder.
Oh and i also frickin loved the dreamcast
I actually think that it is picking up on sales now. I know a lot of people who are planning on buying and seeing an increase of people on forums doing the same.
I think for the US market it really got hit hard because Verizon held back the update so long and also didn't allow any unlocking.
Once AT&T launches it's 3G version I am sure it will take off in the US market as well as being able to hook up to some form of the PSN with the 2.3.4 update.
Not sure about the UK but the price itself put off a lot of people.
In my country I could buy 2 PS3's for the price of one Xperia Play... this should not be the case with a phone that plays games that are 2Gens behind the current PS.
If they had priced it cheaper in the first place it would have sold faster.
I have seen this commercial on TV twice now
GAMEPAAAAAAD! ....what a tool
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PSP................... Oh s**t i majorly forgot i had one of those . I totally agree, i only really game on my Xplay, Xbox or Ps3 now. The play may not be a dedicated gaming device but it scratches the itch i get when im out and about. It fast enough to play anything i want it to. Enough said.
@ Cat_On_Droid. Anyone who doesnt know how to use it (fpse) will normally search for info on how to. Googling Fpse guides brings up more than enough info on how to use/set up. If you can use a normal emulator like Gameboid etc. Then using FPSE is not much harder.
Obh and i also frickin loved the dreamcast
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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You have to pay for PS Suite games too FPse i like any other market app, and unless you have been living in a cave you will know about FPse or its windows mobile brother FpseCE
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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THIS.
Emulators aren't going to sell phones in major quantities and only serve to deepen the niche. The iPhone sells so well because any idiot can do basically anything it can do without much time or brain power investment.
The only way the Xplay and any successors will break out is if there is a "killer app" and an easy way to do it. PS Suite being on the phone from the factory making it easy to download a large library of classic games, and connect to your Playstation etc is the only way a phone like this would be successful. People like us who tinker around with it and take the time to learn how to do things are in the vast minority.
Lets just hope that by the time PS Suite is ready its not already too late.
They have also way over priced the PS1 games. Like games that are over 10 years old with ****ty graphics are more expensive than newer games with amazing graphics and great game play.
Sony PS would make a fortune if they sold the games at $1 a pop.. maybe $2 or maybe $1 per disc
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You have to pay for PS Suite games too FPse i like any other market app, and unless you have been living in a cave you will know about FPse or its windows mobile brother FpseCE
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You do. But trust me people would rather spend 10bux on FFIX than buying fpse, getting the 4 disks to burn, use ecm tools, drag to SD, etc. You can buy PSONE game at any time. Where as using emu requires a PC. Oh and if PS suite gets a good selection the emulation would be perfect, unlike fpse which Requires slot of updates. And don't you need to pay again to update? Not sure =\
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They have also way over priced the PS1 games. Like games that are over 10 years old with ****ty graphics are more expensive than newer games with amazing graphics and great game play.
Sony PS would make a fortune if they sold the games at $1 a pop.. maybe $2 or maybe $1 per disc
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Psx games are almost always more in depth than any android game. But they still should be cheaper at like 1.99 each like you said. Gameloft games with ripped off ideas and bad gameplay with graphics that are good doesn't make a good game.
The Xperia Play needed the following changes -
1) Landscape Home Screen Support
2) Auto Brightness Dsiable Option
3) PsP emulator
4) PS1 and PSP amazing games to be available at launch rather than the shoddies
5) Alot more Xperia Play exclusives
6) Analog touchpads to have the option to "swipe" or "hold" on ALL games
7) Touchscreen Emulator Software so you could assign buttons to parts of the screen (meaning you can play all games on the pad and buttons)
8) Touchscreen functionality on the analog touchpad (so you can scroll with the analog pad when browsing etc)
9) Dual Core processor
10) 1 gig RAM
11) Possibly a 4.3 inch screen
12) Better Signal (Data strength is not as good as other phones)
13) FM Radio (data Radio is useless on a limited data allowance plan)
14) 720p Video Recording enabled
If the Play had all this, (which are not unreasonable requests for the same price tag), it would of been so much more successful.
Basically the XPlay is just a like an HTC Desire, but with a smaller screen that is often dimmer and a control pad.
It is nothing more than a bog standard Android phone that is great for playing a few emulated games.
If you do not want it for emulation, then get a Samsung Galaxy S2.
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The Xperia Play needed the following changes -
1) Landscape Home Screen Support
2) Auto Brightness Dsiable Option
3) PsP emulator
4) PS1 and PSP amazing games to be available at launch rather than the shoddies
5) Alot more Xperia Play exclusives
6) Analog touchpads to have the option to "swipe" or "hold" on ALL games
7) Touchscreen Emulator Software so you could assign buttons to parts of the screen (meaning you can play all games on the pad and buttons)
8) Touchscreen functionality on the analog touchpad (so you can scroll with the analog pad when browsing etc)
9) Dual Core processor
10) 1 gig RAM
11) Possibly a 4.3 inch screen
12) Better Signal (Data strength is not as good as other phones)
13) FM Radio (data Radio is useless on a limited data allowance plan)
14) 720p Video Recording enabled
If the Play had all this, (which are not unreasonable requests for the same price tag), it would of been so much more successful.
Basically the XPlay is just a like an HTC Desire, but with a smaller screen that is often dimmer and a control pad.
It is nothing more than a bog standard Android phone that is great for playing a few emulated games.
If you do not want it for emulation, then get a Samsung Galaxy S2.
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you know how expensive that would be @[email protected] ? anyways the phone costs 100dollarz so dont expect any of those
Those things are much better on to be on the Xperia Arc.
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Less than the Samsung Galaxy S2, since that has better than the specs i mentioned and still doesn't cost more than a XPlay on contract.
XPlay was way overpriced for the specs you get.
It was hardware outdated before it even hit retail.
I love me some modern combat. But where is was good with the touchscreen on my old phones I feel like I get my ass handed to me constantly. I have had my xplay for 6 months now and play mc most of the time. So far I just feel like I am the fish in the barrel getting shot at. Playing campaign no worries. Online and I just get pissed off. Plus I find it total bs to see people getting g 53 frickin kills in a100 kill game.
Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
There are two versions of MC2.one with good controls and one with horrible (shadowgun) controlls. I find playing online enjoyable and I always finish in the top 3...altho that might be my sweet fps skills
Hardly. Developers can suck at using the touchpads properly, but the actual technology is great. Starting off as a total scrub on Modern Combat 3 online, I was pulling off scores and manuevers that I have never been able to do on any other handheld FPS.
EDIT: and yeah, MC2 would give a bad impression if you had any update after 3.3.9 (they started the version count back to 1.0.4+ in all the "broken" new versions).
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The games are great, MC3, Dead Space, etc but yes I find it difficult to play these games using the 'analogue / touchpads / etc' thingys I can only describe as 'male nipples'!
I'm impressed with the games itself, the graphics for a phone is impressive but until we have better nipples to play with I'm gonna stick to emulators or games that don't use them
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Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
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Sorry I was reffering to Modern Combat 3. I specifically use the older Modern Combat 2 version where the controls were decent, the version prior to GL destroying the controls. But yeah sorry I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc. Also I really wish that GL would allow users to play against other users within the same rank online. Its BS when you see new inexperienced users playing aginst others far more experienced. It makes online play not fun at all, and I have emailed GL asking them to implement a ranking system that lets you play with other users of similar rank. Never got a reply, of course.
Oh and if it seemed like my first post sounded angry I was. I was pissed and frustrated, this is/was a pissed off thread I was venting. Guess I was just mad because people tell me " I wont play a shooting game with you because you have a PSP phone and you will kick my ass", but my ass is the only one that gets kicked online. Again not mad anymore just annoyed. I play online constantly. If anyone wants to play online with me some time my GL username is the same as my XDA username. Hope to see you all on the Digital Battlefield.
The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
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The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
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I agree. EA has done an awesome job with the controls. Much better on their first attempts then GL and they 7 or 8th attempt. Dead Space has excellent use of the controls. And the graphics are sweet. I am really looking forward to The Virtual Tennis by Sega. I still play my Dreamcast to this day and have great times with the Tennis game on it.
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I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge but I don't think that that's the case because GL would heavily advertise(yeah I'm American, Yank, fat, whatever *yawn*) that it has cross play.
People can hack and cheat on Android as easily as they do on iOS. I saw a guy who could run 10x faster than every else but I didn't report him because he was on my team and we won because of him lol. And besides, GL will most likely not respond to my email or do anything about it...
I've seen guys get 40+ kills with nothing but headshots. While I do accept that there are guys that are that good, I highly doubt that they would spend the amount of time that they do on MC3 instead Call of Duty (unless they'are cheating of course).
I've seen people cheat on other Android games.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge...
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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I have an iPod Touch as well. Once you've master gyroscopic controls on a fps, it'll make you a formidable foe. It's easier to look around and get headshots.
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Dead Space works flawlessly with the Touch Analog pads.
Thing is with some games it doesn't work that well such as Gameloft games.
Well obviously,it doesn't have analog sticks.
Those touch pads are there so you won't cover the screen with your moving thumbs,not just to mimic analog sticks.
Has anyone tried the icontrol pad analog sticks? They have to be better than these "man nips" lol
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
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*Yawn* ...oh, you again.
First of all, the saying is "Best thing since sliced bread," and I've never said anything about being in love with them. When put in the hands of a competent developer, they serve their purpose. Just because I say they work doesn't mean I prefer them over a more tactile solution.
For what it's worth, I'd actually have rather had twin analogs more akin to what's featured on the iControlPad... but since Xperia PLAY's software support is about 5x more than what iControlPad has, Xperia PLAY it is.
Second, have you played any FPS released in the past decade? Even the most popular, most highly acclaimed series out (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3) integrates auto-aim, so you've already failed if what you aim to prove is that Xperia PLAY's integrates auto-aim out of poor quality.
Even still, it's not like auto-aim is a necessity to have precise aiming on Xperia PLAY. Dead Space on Xperia PLAY already proved that; without a doubt, there's a such thing as a control scheme competent enough such that you can lock on for headshots without having computer-aided guidance.
Yeah, some games need auto-aim... but that's because their touchpad integration wasn't made as responsive as EA's was in Dead Space. If Gameloft ever stepped up to that level, Modern Combat, Shadow Vanguard, NOVA 2, BiA2 and all the rest could ditch their aim assistance... that's a developer-side issue, not a fault of the hardware.
I guess I'm in the minority but I feel the control pad is an advantage. I generally suck at FPS games but having played MC2 online numerous times, I have had quite a few matches where I held my own. I never really got frustrated about not being able to get kills, and I enjoy them. Either the people I'm playing against suck, or theres something good to these analog touchpads. Just my 2 cents....
I think it's really bad with Modern Combat 3, I hate touch screen controls, but the analog sticks are just way below par. Minecraft on the other hand, feels like a dream!
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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amen brotha word up
that is the truth speek
I play shadow gun without da analog sticks
it's much easier to get da headshot on da alien muffs without them
using them it's like it never be landing the reticle rite on da head of da bloke
the only games I like using it for are ones where accuracy dont matta like age of zombies or summin
My experience is that the on screen controls are abysmal. Its hard to do 360s for starters. Navigation controls are pretty straight forward but can be rather non-responsive, particularly when you get into a hairy situation with trying to deal with multiple zombies. I dunno, I don't think there's anything wrong with my touch screen display but I've found the game to be mostly frustrating.
I really like it. controls not hard. 7in. Screen is perfect for these type of games. what I'm really luvin is Nova3. Especially on myltiplayer/deathmatch mode. Sonic 2 thd rocks. Mass effect great also. Wish storage size was larger so I could load all my games like I have on my prime. Only the best ones & emulators go on my nexus 7
Only thing I hate is the random 360 turns it does on me and I don't know where the hell I am.
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Yeah, I thought it was just me.... The zoom is 0 or 100%, no way to go in and out, it either fires one bullet or a dozen it seems like, and movement is really goofy. Maybe that's why it's free now...
A lot of people are playing with a ps3 controller and its pretty awesome with a profile map.
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its frustrating but it sure is pretty on my Nexus7 and on my RAZR.... and its satisfying to shoot zombies regardless.
thats all that matters.
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Only thing I hate is the random 360 turns it does on me and I don't know where the hell I am.
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thank you! I thought I just had fat fingers or something, glad to hear I'm not the only one this happens to.
its freaking awesome with a ps3 controller :good:
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Only thing I hate is the random 360 turns it does on me and I don't know where the hell I am.
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Yeah I get the same thing once in awhile as well.
As far as games go, it's o.k. - I enjoy it from time to time, especially due to the graphics. To be honest, my Nexus 7 game of the moment is Major Mayhem.
I use an OnLive Universal Controller, myself. On screen controls have always been a waste of time, so be glad that Madfinger was nice enough to integrate controller support, unlike most Gameloft titles. Keyboard/mouse support would have been ideal, but the difficulty level is fine for controllers.
Does it compare to popular console franchises like Halo? Of course not. But it's decent enough for a tablet game, and until bigger developers start producing AAA titles for Android, this is the best we've got.
Anyone have zero issues with this game? I was thinking the bugs initially were due to a defective digitzer on my n7, but having downloaded and played max Payne without any issues, I'm lead to believe that the game is at fault.
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A lot of people are playing with a ps3 controller and its pretty awesome with a profile map.
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are they using the sixaxis app to hook the controller up?
Since they ripped off my dollar and threw Android under the bus, I can't say Madfinger holds much of my respect anymore.
But... This game is meant to be played with a controller. It was even demoed using the nyko android controllers, so that is by far the best way to play.
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Game still crashes on start for me... waiting for that to get fixed so I can start playing again
the 360 spins are kind of annoying, but still a good game.
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A lot of people are playing with a ps3 controller and its pretty awesome with a profile map.
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are they using the sixaxis app to hook the controller up?
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Dudes!! With SixAxis, you can make Android see it as a gamepad, so when you go to Dead Trigger, it sees that you have a gamepad connected and automatically makes your analog sticks analog. You just have to set the buttons to what you want.
No need for any special profile inputs. It's so insane. LoL!!
I will admit that all 1st person shooters on phones are a little hard and impossible to play. I actually wouldn't them if they didn't have that GamePad support.
How are people physically playing the game? It's looks like many of you are using gamepads.
I've tried playing it just using the touchscreen but it's very unnatural and awkward. Anyone out there using the touchscreen primarily and if so, any tips?
This game does lagg on my nexus 7....I can't actually play it properly so I uninstalled it.
other madfinger games play fine but this game i'm having issues with
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Anyone have zero issues with this game? I was thinking the bugs initially were due to a defective digitzer on my n7, but having downloaded and played max Payne without any issues, I'm lead to believe that the game is at fault.
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Same here. Only see the 180-degree character flip in Madfinger games like Dead Trigger and Shadowgun. Games from Rockstar such as Max Payne and GTA III doesn't have that issue. Definitely controller bug in Madfinger code. Being that Madfinger made Dead Trigger difficult without better weapons and has in-app purchase nag to upgrade weapons I'm not surprised they intentionally introduce the bug to frustrate people into paying money for weapons.
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tanmack33 said:
Game still crashes on start for me... waiting for that to get fixed so I can start playing again
the 360 spins are kind of annoying, but still a good game.
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Try going into Settings>Apps>Dead Trigger and clear cache, clear data, force stop and uninstall.
Go into Settings>Wi-Fi, click on three vertical squares, select Advanced, and set Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to Always.
Set the Display sleep to 30 minutes.
Redownload game. A lot of crash and no sound issues with new game downloads are due to incomplete downloads.
The random 180 bug is a known problem with the unity game engine itself which madfinger happens to like to use. Its up to unity to fix it, and madfinger said on their Facebook that they were working with the unity team on it.
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My experience is that the on screen controls are abysmal. Its hard to do 360s for starters. Navigation controls are pretty straight forward but can be rather non-responsive, particularly when you get into a hairy situation with trying to deal with multiple zombies. I dunno, I don't think there's anything wrong with my touch screen display but I've found the game to be mostly frustrating.
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Come back to this discussion after you've tried out at least an xbox 360 controller.
On screen controls are lacking.. when you use real tactile controls that don't force you to cover up some of the screen, it makes it a different feeling device all together.
Any controller like the xbox 360 controller, Sony Playstation SIXASIS bluetooth, or any other wonderful controller compatible with our devices stock or rooted.
Was looking for something that went underneath the Sofa and couldn't be asked to find a torch so used the Rear 'LED' Flash light, much to the amazement of others as they thought it was incredibly brighter compared to their iCraps.
What other things have people said about your Play?
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This phone has for other people mostly a nerd, gamer and no-life factor
Well a lot of people like the gamepad. When you mention games like GTA, some peoples interest increases. Through all the tweaks and various great work of the developers on here, my phone runs quite smooth and handles well meaning it isn't really trashed for being old and outdated. It does lag or slow down sometimes but i guess that's to be expected. Some just call it a "PSP phone"
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Some just call it a "PSP phone"
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One time someone was even thinking that it can run every game from PSP, not tech guy tho
Some people are whining about outdated hardware, but when I ask them what can their phone do which mine can't they can't really say and they always play games which don't even need sd data
Other people say that not many games are optimised for it, I ask for example and then after they hear that almost every example is optimised they shut up
Other people agree with me that it's the best phone for gaming.
My Best Friends are bit jealous of 4 different roms of any choice (gb, ics, jb) but they don't play as hard as I do on phone even though they agree that it is a good phone.
Overall opinion is poor but after I slide the game pad people realise what it is and mostly they change their opinion to good/very good.
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Everyone that asks me what phone do I have, after I open the slider, they realize that no matter what phone they have, just looks like a toy (with expensive/unnecessary gadgets to accomplish what the integrated gamepad of the XPlay does) in front of my Xperia Play.
In my country/area there are a generalized gaming culture, so that's the cause of this reaction.
Yeah, never missing that person that thinks it can run PSP games (although thanks to PPSSPP maybe in the future, at least struggling), the form factor deceives anyone
People:
OmG D00d youR f0ne iS S0 c00l! D0 Y0u h4ve Min3 Cr4ft??
OmG d00 y0U w4nna C my wurlD?
Me:
Get your hands off me you filthy casual, I'm playing pokemon blue.
Strangely enough; it always goes like this:
"is that an xperia? Who still uses xperia phones?"
::slides out game pad, loads up Dead Space::
"WHAT?! THAT IS AMAZING! WHERE DO I GET ONE?!"
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Everyone was always like Whoa a gamepad? Thats awsome!
So how powerfull was this phone? Hahaha nevermind ill keep my dual / quad core phone.
Yet it runs every game i want to play and keeps me entertained during the long busrides.
It's usually like this:
- Hey, what's your phone model?
- Uhm.. it's just a 2011 xperia...
- Oh, an arc or something?
- It's actually a play...
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I don't even know why they drool so much over it, anyways
In my case... my friends say it's a dead phone... coz nowadays you can find better things for the same price...
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In my case... my friends say it's a dead phone... coz nowadays you can find better things for the same price...
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The Nexus 4, which is one of the best phones you can buy is $300 dollars.
Most of them are jealous, even though they say "I don't play with my phone". Of course not. Playing with touchscreen is horrible...
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Strangely enough; it always goes like this:
"is that an xperia? Who still uses xperia phones?"
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"WHAT?! THAT IS AMAZING! WHERE DO I GET ONE?!"
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SPOT ON!
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TLRtheory said:
Strangely enough; it always goes like this:
"is that an xperia? Who still uses xperia phones?"
::slides out game pad, loads up Dead Space::
"WHAT?! THAT IS AMAZING! WHERE DO I GET ONE?!"
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LOL... they just tell me... Why do I need that gamepad... I can use my PS3 controller... pfff... I imagine them with a PS3 gamepad on their pockets XD
My sis thinks its cool and she almost bought one for herself but went with Neo instead (because she didnt want to have the same phone as I did)
Yeah, surprisingly many people get excited when they see GTA 3 on it, few people wanted to go even more indepth than games and appearance (like specs)
Also before I had bought my XPlay, some cellphone store worker was interested about XPlay when we asked did they have any (they only had Arc), he said its a shame they are not selling it because he would have loved to try it out or even buy it. This was way after XPlay's retail release, like 6 months afterwards so he was genuinely interested about it.
On top of the one I said, a Common one is that its a Brick!
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Hahahaha yep.
Person: *starts up an SNES, NES, or Genesis emulator* "Wow, this is really cool! I want one"
Me: "I know right!"
Person: *starts up any 3D game made in the last year*
Xperia Play: *plays game at 10FPS*
Person: This phone $#@'in sucks!
Me: "I know right"
That's why it's up on eBay, hoping it can go to someone who can enjoy it more than I did.
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That's why it's up on eBay, hoping it can go to someone who can enjoy it more than I did.
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Unless you really need the money, I would keep the phone. It's really a one of a kind.
I remember the first time I took my PLAY out of the box.. it was so beautiful, I simply couldn't put it down. Whenever I pick this phone up again and just look at it, I still get that feeling of how special it is. I own quite a few 'nice' phones, but none of them give me that sensation of awesomeness that the Xperia Play does. That's why I will never part with it.
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Person: *starts up any 3D game made in the last year*
Xperia Play: *plays game at 10FPS*
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Really? Because all the recent notable Play Store releases from Modern Combat 4, Aralon, Scaresoul, ME: Infiltrator, Dark Knight Rises, NOVA 3, Dead Trigger, Repulze all the way up to Bladeslinger runs like a dream on Xperia Play, and there's been topics dedicated to Xperia Play running current-gen games with extraordinary performance.
What'd YOU do to your Xperia Play to get current games running at 10FPS?
I got a stock ROM without as much as Chainfire, and Xperia Play handles 'em like they were made for it.