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I accept that I just don't get it but...
WTF is up with the Gmail app? No folders, only labels, is there a way to empty trash? Is there a way to take things out of the trash? I don't get the labels thing. I just want a normal email client interface for Gmail push mail.
These threaded 'conversations' are annoying as hell to sift thru.
Are the labels the 'new' folders? Am I supposed to create labels like I used to create folders? Is this only done thru the web desktop version of gmail?
I know, I know I'm the dumb*ss here... but WTF.
I guess this new Gmail thing is this great new revolutionary thing but I just don't get it and looking through emails in this new way that's unlike any email client I have ever worked with has never been more frustrating.
Pardon my rant... just frustrated that I am having such a difficult time understanding this and I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get it. Please forgive.
BTW, I tried the Gmail help & faq but I still don't get it. Can anyone point me towards something that will help me become an expert in this new amazing label bullsh*t? Thanks!
I recently noticed that you cannot bring an item from the trash back to the inbox. I would consider that a bug. Fortunately you can fix it by logging in thru a web browser.
Deleted items are dumped automatically once they are 30 days old. You can empty trash if you go in via browser but there's really no point.
Yes, labels are "the new folders". They work the same way except an e-mail can only be in one folder but it can have any number of labels.
I would recommend that you start using the browser-based gmail on your PC for a little while. It's a little easier to undertsand that way and then it will make more sense on the phone.
ETA: Another thing people have trouble with is the "Archive" button which really means "Disappear from the Inbox." So if you want to "put a message into a folder" tag it with whatever labels you want and then archive it. Conveniently, if a new message appears in an archived conversation, it will automagically un-archive itself.
Thanks for your response... I'll take a look at the online desktop version of Gmail, try to familiarize myself with this new way of organizing email. Definitely not a fan so far...
on my G1 whenever I select a message and go to change the label my only option is Inbox (+ or -) whatever that means. And yeah I accidentally hit Archive on one message and accidentally reported another as spam... and there's no confirmation on anything so it does it all immediately, which is great if you know what the hell you're doing.
Push mail comes at a price I guess. Thinking my dumb*ass will stick with IMAP checking every 5 mins. Oh well.
F*cking lame system if you ask me.
yeah, i don't get it either. watched some coworkers use gmail and it didn't make any sense to me why they would change how email client works. but at least their calendar app behaves normally as far as i can tell.
i'll just stick to my pop3 email, although the pop email client on the g1 is total crap.
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on my G1 whenever I select a message and go to change the label my only option is Inbox (+ or -) whatever that means.
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If you remove the Inbox label (it show + when it's removed) it's the same as archiving.
I think you can only add labels via the web interface, which is why you only see the inbox label.
F*cking lame system if you ask me.
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Once you start using it, the "old way" should start to drive you nuts.
@Ultraman: They changed it because that's pretty much what Google does for a living. They try to come up with a different (and hopefully better) way to do things.
Yeah the pop3/imap client isn't so great, but it looks a lot better than the Gmail interface in my opinion...
I notice a problem though with the pop3 client where it always displays messages as unread even if I've looked at them... for some reason I don't have this problem when I have the account setup as IMAP though.
I notice weird things happen... Where emails disappear from my inbox but I can see them when I view 'All Mail'. I check the label and it is set for Inbox and yet the message isn't listed on my G1 Inbox. I go online and sure enough it is listed in the Inbox online... so I have to view All Mail in the online version and select Move to Inbox (even though online it already appears to be in my Inbox) and then sometimes it shows back up on my G1 device.
Really loving that I have to continuously go online to reset emails... I love this new system... so much fun trying to hunt down emails. Wayyy better than folders. With folders everything was too predictable... drop an email in a folder and it stayed there... this new system is nice, keeps me on my toes
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I notice weird things happen... Where emails disappear from my inbox but I can see them when I view 'All Mail'. I check the label and it is set for Inbox and yet the message isn't listed on my G1 Inbox. I go online and sure enough it is listed in the Inbox online... so I have to view All Mail in the online version and select Move to Inbox (even though online it already appears to be in my Inbox) and then sometimes it shows back up on my G1 device.
Really loving that I have to continuously go online to reset emails... I love this new system... so much fun trying to hunt down emails. Wayyy better than folders. With folders everything was too predictable... drop an email in a folder and it stayed there... this new system is nice, keeps me on my toes
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Make sure your client isn't set to automatically delete email off your server after its fetched
hmm..yeah there might be a bit of understanding curve if you are new..
i been using gmail since early beta days and now i just cannot go back to those rigid folders used by yahoo etc..
i have so many labels and they are all intertwined..just cannot imagine living with the "old folder"
good luck with getting thru gmail
I know the labels seems confusing, but as one poster put it before -- When you put something in a folder, it's just in that folder, and nowhere else. Labels gives you the option of having things organized a little better.
For example, an email from my Dad telling me his new address can have the lables "DAD", "FAMILY" and "ADDRESS".
The labels come into play really well on the web interface, you can go to your labels on the left, click the label and get everything that has that label.
With the folder system, you have to chose ONE place for it. With the labels system you can tag an email with as many labels as it needs so when you need to find it, it's easy.
The labels come in really handy for sorting incoming email, I have a bunch of filters that do all kinds of things, for example -
Facebook Filter - I set this up to tag those Facebook notifications with a "FACEBOOK" label and then to mark them as read. I can see that I got them, but I don't have to worry about getting a notification on my phone about silly facebook stuff.
Work Filter - Anyone emailing from my theatre company automatically gets the label, so I can see all of the correspondence about the company very easily.
I love the threaded emails, makes it so much easier to follow the conversation. Not everyone's email is set up to respond with the text from the previous email, so this helps keep it all intact. I think it helps organize and keep the inbox looking tidy.
I would definitely play around with the PC version. The android version is limited, even the android-browser version is limited (but does have more features than the app). Once you get a handle on the PC version, the G1 version will make more sense. I don't know if they've fixed anything, but years ago I tried the IMAP way of checking my gmail in Outlook -- totally sucked, would pull everything, even deleted emails through. I just tested, and apparently this has changed, but it used to be the case that "deleted" emails weren't truly "deleted" they actually went to some other archive and you could bring them back if you wanted. They put a little notice or something letting you know it had been deleted and "do you want to recover the email?" sorta messaging.
Anyway, a lot of people like gmail a lot, but not everyone is going to like everything. Especially when it involves a new way of thinking. If you have Outlook 2007, they've done something very similar with lables - so gmail is definitely influencing and changing the way people think about email.
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If you have Outlook 2007, they've done something very similar with lables - so gmail is definitely influencing and changing the way people think about email.
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So true! Actually Outlook has had categories/labels for a long time but they were never well-implemented/supported until 2007. I actually use conversation view, categories and search folders now to mimic gmail in Outlook as best I can!
He,y guys, thanks for your input. I guess I wasn't aware of that in Outlook 2007. I've been using outlook based purely on folders and mail rules. Good to know.
I've been forcing myself to get comfortable with the new system. I find the less I mess with things, the better it works for me. Specifically I find if I remove the Inbox label from an email then later add it back on it doesn't always show up again in the Inbox... but it's probably something I'm doing wrong.
Aside from that one thing, the labels are working pretty well for me now. Like you mentioned I setup work, family, ecommerce, etc labels and I do like the way these labels show next to the message on the g1.
Slowly but surely becoming a believer... Thanks for helping me understand.
Question...
How do I delete an individual email message from a conversation? I tried to go into the conversation via the Gmail app, selected the message that i wanted to delete and deleted it, but it killed the whole conversation instead of the one individual email. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
I don't think it can be done in the phone interface though you might be able to do it in the web interface.
Not a fan of the conversation threading for this very reason. Sometimes I get an important email with a few not so important replies... and I have to look through conversation thread to locate the important info when 90% is trash...
I wish i could have push Gmail with the old so-called *inferior* folder method that never had these silly issues. If you're going to re-invent the wheel, seems it would make sense to add functionality without taking away from the basics.
I'm going to re-invent a wheel that requires physical carrying until I can figure out how to get it to roll properly.. but it's gonna be way better than the old way because these new wheels have lights! ooh! Sorry for the sarcasm
Thanks for the reply!
In the web interface click the 'down arrow' next to "reply" on an individual email in the thread. Choose 'Delete this message'.
You can only delete a single mail from the thread in the web app - not the Android app it seems.
I've been using Gmail since the invite Betas too, and so the Android App is more of a supplement for me...
Okay, well it's good to know there is a way to do it. Thanks for the instructions on how to delete a specific message in a conversation! Much appreciated!
ok, I've used the search button, found lots of stuff but not what I wanted or unclear. This is what I want: I want my mails from my gmail adress to be pushed to my HTC HD2. I want them to wake up the device and tell me, I have a mail ( like a text basically )
What do I do, what do I set up, I've tried turning on push, but it seems to be turning itself off or something, it doesn't look on when I go to the manager. If anybody can help me, that would be great. Ow, and we're talking 3G or edge, gprs, not wifi here.
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ok, I've used the search button, found lots of stuff but not what I wanted or unclear. This is what I want: I want my mails from my gmail adress to be pushed to my HTC HD2. I want them to wake up the device and tell me, I have a mail ( like a text basically )
What do I do, what do I set up, I've tried turning on push, but it seems to be turning itself off or something, it doesn't look on when I go to the manager. If anybody can help me, that would be great. Ow, and we're talking 3G or edge, gprs, not wifi here.
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There's no push feature that I know of, you set how ofter to check for new email, and in notifications you set how to let you know that you have new email.
There you are: http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
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There's no push feature that I know of, you set how ofter to check for new email, and in notifications you set how to let you know that you have new email.
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Completely wrong.
kilrah is spot on, and it works extremely well. The only thing I would add is that it does add to battery drain, so I would disable it at night and other times it is not required. G-profile can be used for this. By the way, it will not work if you are connected to a computer using Activesync, and that computer does not allow connection to the internet (most work networks are set up this way).
so does this keep the internetconnection open all of the time, even when the phone is asleep? I suppose so?
I'm asking that because, when I put the settings on send and receive every 5 minutes, it appears as if the connection stays on after the first send and receive ( for instance, I check pxInternet and it has been connected for 40min ) and yeah, if that were to be the case, why not use push.
thx for the help so far, really, great and to the point.
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so does this keep the internetconnection open all of the time, even when the phone is asleep? I suppose so?
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Yes of course, otherwise the server would have no way to tell the phone there's something new for it. If you close the data connection in the connection manager it will warn you this also deactivates push.
I've found the idle data usage and battery drain is minimal (at least on 3G). Push on for one night drained 8% battery, which is pretty much the same as without it (~6%). Data usage was under 100kB, and I received 2 mails during the night. Makes great savings, as doing a send/receive on my IMAP account easily uses around 200kB, which would happen every 5 mins or whatever is set for automatic checking, and by extension less traffic = less battery usage...
EDGE might use more battery as there are more keepalive signals.
I agree with Kilrah, I have my calendar, contact and email all synced through google and i don't notice any obvious battery drain compared to when push is turned off.
I use ActiveSync to sync my Gmail account and the push works fine.
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kilrah is spot on, and it works extremely well. The only thing I would add is that it does add to battery drain, so I would disable it at night and other times it is not required. G-profile can be used for this. By the way, it will not work if you are connected to a computer using Activesync, and that computer does not allow connection to the internet (most work networks are set up this way).
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Because Google Sync works via ActiveSync, you can adjust the settings for ActiveSync (e.g. only during peak times). So no need to use G-profile.
PUSH mail is avalaible on GMail with HD2. Look here : http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
can you synch/push more than 1 gmail account with this method?
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Because Google Sync works via ActiveSync, you can adjust the settings for ActiveSync (e.g. only during peak times). So no need to use G-profile.
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How do you do that please?
As well as the battery/data aspect I would rather not have my sleep disturbed by the "bings" of new emails!
In activesync, menu -> scheduling.
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How do you do that please?
As well as the battery/data aspect I would rather not have my sleep disturbed by the "bings" of new emails!
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ActiveSync > Menu > Schedule. And just set Off-peak times to Manually so you won't be disturbed when sleeping
At the bottom click on: "Adjust peak times to fit your schedule"
Sleep well
Thanks Guys!
I have set that up to push my main Gmail account and am using Gudusoft email scheduler to check the other one every 30mins.
Let's see how will it works now!
Sync issues
Anyone having any issues sync'ing with calender.
For some reason the only way I can sync at all is with that one disabled.
Currently I'm only using push with email and contacts only since the other won't work.
Can't believe I didn't know that google offered this service now...yes I just found out today reading this forum...
Been waiting too long for this...
Hello, I have some problems with gmail...
When HD2 turns off (standby), it doesn't sync my emails (haven't tried contacts or calendar yet). When I go to activesync to check what happened there are 2 possibilities:
1) If I am home (wifi always on even in standby mode) I get an error (0x80004004). Btw even with wifi on it still keeps the data connection on (?!?!?)
2) If wifi is off it starts syncing when I open activesync.
Any help would be appreciated
EDIT: Seems like there is no problem when wifi is off after all. I guess having wifi always enabled is a problem because it automatically disables 3g...
i want to share my cheap way of getting my emails from Gmail on my phone
via MMS !! so since I am on TMobile (i dont know if it works for other carriers..a simple google search shall do )
so basically i forward all my emails to the email id
[email protected][B]tmomail.net[/B]
where phonenumber = your 10 digit number...
so lets say my phone number is 1-212-000-5000
all i do is forward my gmail to [email protected] and presto !!
everytime i get an email it notifies me...and since i have unlimited messaging (MMS is free too) the messages shows completely !!!
backlashsid said:
i want to share my cheap way of getting my emails from Gmail on my phone
via MMS !! so since I am on TMobile (i dont know if it works for other carriers..a simple google search shall do )
so basically i forward all my emails to the email id
[email protected][B]tmomail.net[/B]
where phonenumber = your 10 digit number...
so lets say my phone number is 1-212-000-5000
all i do is forward my gmail to [email protected] and presto !!
everytime i get an email it notifies me...and since i have unlimited messaging (MMS is free too) the messages shows completely !!!
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Hmmm....I should try that!
If it works, I'll definitely press that Thanks button in your post.
sumflipnol said:
Hmmm....I should try that!
If it works, I'll definitely press that Thanks button in your post.
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first try sending a test mail from ur gmail a/c to yourself and if it doesnt work try adding '1" in front of your number ! hope it works for you too...
Hello all, I'm new to the board and had a couple questions I can't seem to find (I've spent time searching)
First off, let me say this. DO NOT TRUST THE RUBBER CASE that came with the TMO US HD2. I dropped mine from prob 2.5 feet up and it hit the corner with a very light thud. I thought the case protected it from the fall. It did, really well actually, but it didn't totally break the fall. The case failed and when you look inside the case there's noticeable damage. The inside of the case looks worse than the outside and now I have a nice ding on my phone. I thought the case totally protected the device but I was wrong It could've been much worse so I'll stop whining LOL.
Now to my questions. Who's using GMAIL via activesync to push their mail? It appears to be working, but it didn't copy any of the email from my labels. Is it supposed to? Or does it only track the changes I make to them AFTER the sync? When I had gmail synced using IMAP it never updated the contents of my folder labels. There's some things in those folders I'd love to have access to (since there's no GMAIL app for winmo).
Also, I use the included gchat app. Which is ok, but I don't get notifications of new messages. I have to check it periodically just to see if someone has IM'd me. Is this normal?
Thanks to anyone who can help, great forum!
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Hello all, I'm new to the board and had a couple questions I can't seem to find (I've spent time searching)
First off, let me say this. DO NOT TRUST THE RUBBER CASE that came with the TMO US HD2. I dropped mine from prob 2.5 feet up and it hit the corner with a very light thud. I thought the case protected it from the fall. It did, really well actually, but it didn't totally break the fall. The case failed and when you look inside the case there's noticeable damage. The inside of the case looks worse than the outside and now I have a nice ding on my phone. I thought the case totally protected the device but I was wrong It could've been much worse so I'll stop whining LOL.
Now to my questions. Who's using GMAIL via activesync to push their mail? It appears to be working, but it didn't copy any of the email from my labels. Is it supposed to? Or does it only track the changes I make to them AFTER the sync? When I had gmail synced using IMAP it never updated the contents of my folder labels. There's some things in those folders I'd love to have access to (since there's no GMAIL app for winmo).
Also, I use the included gchat app. Which is ok, but I don't get notifications of new messages. I have to check it periodically just to see if someone has IM'd me. Is this normal?
Thanks to anyone who can help, great forum!
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Bumping this thread so you can get help on GMAIL because I'm clueless on that subject.
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Bumping this thread so you can get help on GMAIL because I'm clueless on that subject.
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Thanks, one more bump for help....
Seriously? no one?
Pretty easy to set up actually.
Here are the instructions as provided by Google from there website.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
For you user name just make sure to put your full Gmail E-maill address.
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Pretty easy to set up actually.
Here are the instructions as provided by Google from there website.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
For you user name just make sure to put your full Gmail E-maill address.
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Thanks for your response! But I already had it set up. The push mail seems to be working just fine. It even shows me my labels but nothing is in them. I wouldn't complain if there was a gmail app that i could use when I needed to see my labels...but noooooooooooooooo. Google and Microsoft have beef and we're getting shafted because of it
igotdatglow said:
Hello all, I'm new to the board and had a couple questions I can't seem to find (I've spent time searching)
First off, let me say this. DO NOT TRUST THE RUBBER CASE that came with the TMO US HD2. I dropped mine from prob 2.5 feet up and it hit the corner with a very light thud. I thought the case protected it from the fall. It did, really well actually, but it didn't totally break the fall. The case failed and when you look inside the case there's noticeable damage. The inside of the case looks worse than the outside and now I have a nice ding on my phone. I thought the case totally protected the device but I was wrong It could've been much worse so I'll stop whining LOL.
Now to my questions. Who's using GMAIL via activesync to push their mail? It appears to be working, but it didn't copy any of the email from my labels. Is it supposed to? Or does it only track the changes I make to them AFTER the sync? When I had gmail synced using IMAP it never updated the contents of my folder labels. There's some things in those folders I'd love to have access to (since there's no GMAIL app for winmo).
Also, I use the included gchat app. Which is ok, but I don't get notifications of new messages. I have to check it periodically just to see if someone has IM'd me. Is this normal?
Thanks to anyone who can help, great forum!
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GMAIL: once you've set up active sync, go to outlook's settings there's an option there that says if you want to view mails from up to 1 week ago, 1 month and so on, these are the messages it will try to sync to ur phone. Go there and select the settings that you want. then go back and view ur folders...
GTalk App: it does give u notifications, go to ur settings and check e-mail and chat, if that's not enough, go to gtalk's settings and also check play a sound on a new message.
If you want it to sync your contacts and calendar and emails. Use the google Microsoft Exchange settings for active sync.
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GMAIL: once you've set up active sync, go to outlook's settings there's an option there that says if you want to view mails from up to 1 week ago, 1 month and so on, these are the messages it will try to sync to ur phone. Go there and select the settings that you want. then go back and view ur folders...
GTalk App: it does give u notifications, go to ur settings and check e-mail and chat, if that's not enough, go to gtalk's settings and also check play a sound on a new message.
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Thanks!!
And for everyone offering help, i appreciate it! But I am using activesync, maybe this thing with the old email will work. I tried finding settings for sounds in gtalk and couldn't...maybe I just need to hunt some more..installed palringo, seems ok so far...will have to play with it some more...but sound really wont help me if i'm not by my phone...would be nice to have a notification at the top of the screen
One note though, I get new mail into one of my gmail labels every hour and it NEVER shows. Does anyone else have their yahoo or hotmail coming to your gmail? Will the phone pull your emails from their respective labels? I always go the mail from this label on my blackerry...I"m sure its just me not setting it up correctly..at least i hope
Whilst using the Galaxy S I have come to miss a few features I had on my HD2.
Does anyone have any input on the following email and text message queries?
1. Email/Text Notification
On both my HD2 and the Desire (Desire email only) the email & text icon shows in green how many email/text messages you have.
Is there any way to have this feature on the Galaxy S?
Note: I know at the Lock Screen the Jigsaw displays a count but this does not indicate what is Email and what is Text.
2. All New Emails on a PC showing as Read
Iv'e noticed even when my Galaxy has it's screen switched off and untouched (in other words I have not checked the email messages), if later when I go to my PC it's showing all the messages as read (the Headings are no longer Bold Text).
Has anyone come across a method to reverse this?
As in when I go to my PC I want to see any new messages I have not yet read as Marked as Unread.
3. Spam Content
I've noticed all messages including Spam are shown on the Galaxy S in the Inbox.
The trouble here is not so much as it being displayed but unlike on the PC which has a dedicated Spam Folder you can't identify which messages are genuine and which are Spam.
Is there any way to sort this out?
I'm dreading clicking on one message only to find out it's Spam.
4. Different Sound Ringtone/Notifications for either Email or Texts?
On the HD2 if a new email or text came in it sounded off a dedicated sound/ringtone, or if I'd missed a Text Message the HD2 flashed Green.
I know on the Galaxy S there is no LED notification to work this idea on but I miss having different sounds.
As an example ~ I'm constantly hearing the phone play a sound ~ which I then have to pick up time after time just to find out if it's an email or text message.
On the HD2 if it were a text message sound I'd pick it up and read it, whereas if it were an email sound I'd leave it until I was ready.
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail using services other than GMail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Notes:
Item 5 added Monday 21 June 2010 ~ see Post 14.
Item 6 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 17.
Item 7 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 19
For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
helinus said:
For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
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It's BT's Yahoo
From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
helinus said:
From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
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Thanks helinus but all I know is on the HD2 when it receives emails it does not alter anything on the PC's Yahoo Mail web page.
Even further, with the HD2 if you have a look at the email messages and mark them as read, when you next go to your PC the messages are still shown as new marked as unread.
This appears to be totally different with the Galaxy S.
I had a talk with my Brother who has a Desire and he says like the HD2 the email messages on the PC remain unread.
Archius said:
Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
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You are so, so correct and I can not understand how on earth I missed this.
First at the Messages settings I altered the ringtone then I went to the Yahoo email settings and altered this to a different ringtone.....
Now I have different sounds for both text & email.... thanks Archius.
All I need to do now is sort out items 1, 2 & 3.
you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
Archius said:
you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
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Thanks, I'll have a look at what the Market can offer.
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
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Interesting... I have both a Gmail & Yahoo account.
I'll check out the GMail App ~ do you have a name for it?
I'll see if there's anything similar for Yahoo.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
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Yes, I see what you mean with GMail ~ it does indeed have an item in the menu named View Labels.
Interestingly there was no Spam folder though.
Also under settings, theres an item named Labels which you can select which are synchronized.
However, back at Yahoo account (for anything other than Gmail)
It's a much better looking account and has more tabs for selecting Inbox/Drafts/Sent/Trash but no Spam.
Nor is there anything in the settings to show any labels.
I suppose as you don't use Yahoo you can't really comment on Item 2 ~ ' All New Emails on a PC showing as Read'.
This one has me flummoxed.
As I mentioned to helinus it's totally different to the HD2 and even on a Desire it doesn't effect the content on the server... Simply switch on the PC, check your email messages and they are still there all marked as unread.
I wouldn't mind so much if after I had checked the messages first on the Galaxy it then marked all messages read as read but no..... You don't even have to switch the Galaxy S on to find when you go to the PC all messages are marked as read.
Right mate... must go.
I have a speech to write tonight and hopefully a little time to do a Market search or two.......
This is the application:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/se.alexanderblom.gmailunreadcount
Gmail Unread Count, simply download from market and use it as a widget (not from the app tray but from the widgets menu)
and simply set up the image to "post something" i forget the name (I no longer have my Android cell I sold it today and getting ready for galaxy s tomorrow or after tomorrow)
There are many images to choose from, my favorite is the post... because it's the same as the 2.1 version.
I was using version 1.5 of Android and I THINK there was Spam folder in Gmail hehe, I do remember it being there... would be strange if they removed it in 2.1.. I doubt it, maybe you should try to make it "sync all" for spam in the settings menu of labels.
have a good night and speech =)
cool info, somewhat similar to what i was looking for
Also, try K9Mail from the market. It is one of the BEST email apps bar none and it is free. It may provide what you are looking for - link is for appbrain.
or this?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.jonasl.gmailnotifier2
Okay... having now had time to play with the settings and less time in theatre, with the help of friends here I've managed to sort out 1 & 4.
I didn't go with any outside Apps/Widgets. In the end I found for SMS, as soon as you switch on the phone at the lock screen if there is any text messages you get a 'jigsaw pattern' with a peace of a jigsaw taken from the complete jigsaw and marked in solid green.
As to the email notification it's now a simple matter of pulling down the Notification window at the top of the screen. It displays all emails from all accounts.
It also shows if you have any text messages as well.
All I need now to do is solve 2 & 3 but I suppose just like 1 & 4 it's a case of less theatre and more hands on the Galaxy S.
Right......
I have another query to add to the list:-
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
I'll add this item 5 to my opening post so that anyone new will understand all 5 items.
Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
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livegod said:
Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
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Then tell me Mark how the heck does the HD2 on Windows Mobile support it?
Here's another question to add ~ Text Message Character Counting
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
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Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
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Hi Archius,
Pleased you got your Galaxy S.
I'm afraid due to my business commitments and other ties I have to use Yahoo.
Besides, why should we have to change a browser just to accommodate the Galaxy S?
I've found a 'workaround' but it's not ideal......
I've created a bookmark icon which automatically loads Internet Yahoo Mail.
At least I get to see exactly what I see on the PC.
Trouble is I've now come across another problem which I'll have to add to the list and that is replying to an email message from within the client's (Yahoo) browser. See below.
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
That's a strange problem and I would not like that at all!
Try using another Internet app.
From the Market try "Dolphin"
also try "xscope"
try "opera"
"skyfire" also
try these four (start with xscope since I think it is the fastest and most stable)
and tell me how it goes =) I hope it will work out for you.
Did you try searching for an app called Yahoo? or k9mail. etc...
is it just me, or despite every method, setting, tweak humanly possible, Hotmail just basically sucks on this phone?
ive tried using the windows live client, ive tried using the htc email setup. ive set to headers only, text rather than html, sync only today, every 15 minutes. ive tried almost everything i can possibly find and still, it syncs 14000 emails and bogs down my phone whicl searching/connecting etc.
the only thing that works is to set the sync to 'manual" but even then, when i manually sync, total phone destruction (in the form of stuttering/freezing) ensues.
i get 500 exchange emails daily, puyshed in real time, no issues, lighting fast. Hotmail however...the worst.
am i alone ?
thanks
jason
14000
Yes you are alone.
I work in customer service so I'm gonna take a leap and say your frustration has blinded you.
Hotmail or windows live only syncs 50 e-mails by default. Take some time to calm down and explain exactly what is going on.
1) What ROM version do you have
2) What exactly are you trying to do
3) What program do you want to use. i e Windows live
4) What exactly happens i e. Is it immediately you sync via windows live that it freezes or is it when you try to run a program.
5) Have you tried a soft reset; and if you have have you tried a hard reset with only windows live initiated to see if the symptons persist.
We'd all love to help but help us help you.
I use Exchange and Hotmail both through the HTC email interface just fine. I have Hotmail on manual sync. Works like a champ. If you want, try going into the inbox first, then doing a menu-->send/receive and watch the status bar at the bottom.
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is it just me, or despite every method, setting, tweak humanly possible, Hotmail just basically sucks on this phone?
ive tried using the windows live client, ive tried using the htc email setup. ive set to headers only, text rather than html, sync only today, every 15 minutes. ive tried almost everything i can possibly find and still, it syncs 14000 emails and bogs down my phone whicl searching/connecting etc.
the only thing that works is to set the sync to 'manual" but even then, when i manually sync, total phone destruction (in the form of stuttering/freezing) ensues.
i get 500 exchange emails daily, puyshed in real time, no issues, lighting fast. Hotmail however...the worst.
am i alone ?
thanks
jason
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There should be an option to only show that last day, 3 days or week. Do you not see that option when setting it up through Sense?
crisisinthecity said:
There should be an option to only show that last day, 3 days or week. Do you not see that option when setting it up through Sense?
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thanks for the replies. ill try ot be a bit clearer:
there are several ways to go about installing hotmail; i believe i've tried them all, with every possible configuration. they are as follows:
(please note that not only do i have sense disabled, i do nto have sense installed on my rom (see sig.)
windows live msgclient:
-- i constantly recieve the message "windows live is temporarily unavailable, please try again". keep in mind that i have exchange mail pushed in real time and two gmail accounts which sync every 5 minutes, no issues with them whatsoever.
here are my windows live msgclient configurations:
1) today screen options are unchecked
2) sync options: only "sync email" is checked
3) sync schedule: every 15 minutes, although ive tried manual and triead real time, same results.
4) syc status: synchronized
5) roaming: both boxes are checked, but ive also had them unchecked, no difference in results. still get this "windows live is temporarily unavailable, please try again"
6) messenger: unchecked
7) email: preview size is 15k but ive also tried every other setting, no difference. the other two boxes are checked but i have also had trhem unchecked as well, no difference.
8) about: version 10.7.0061.2000
after this failed for the millionth time, i tried using the htc email client setup instead. and uninstalled the windows live client. i get that same message constantly, AAAAAND my phone freezes up all the timne since it is constantly trying to sync 14k emails.
thats what i have thus far. the email works mostly. but the popup is crushing my soul.
any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
thanks guys,
jason
jason370 said:
thanks for the replies. ill try ot be a bit clearer:
there are several ways to go about installing hotmail; i believe i've tried them all, with every possible configuration. they are as follows:
(please note that not only do i have sense disabled, i do nto have sense installed on my rom (see sig.)
windows live msgclient:
-- i constantly recieve the message "windows live is temporarily unavailable, please try again". keep in mind that i have exchange mail pushed in real time and two gmail accounts which sync every 5 minutes, no issues with them whatsoever.
here are my windows live msgclient configurations:
1) today screen options are unchecked
2) sync options: only "sync email" is checked
3) sync schedule: every 15 minutes, although ive tried manual and triead real time, same results.
4) syc status: synchronized
5) roaming: both boxes are checked, but ive also had them unchecked, no difference in results. still get this "windows live is temporarily unavailable, please try again"
6) messenger: unchecked
7) email: preview size is 15k but ive also tried every other setting, no difference. the other two boxes are checked but i have also had trhem unchecked as well, no difference.
8) about: version 10.7.0061.2000
after this failed for the millionth time, i tried using the htc email client setup instead. and uninstalled the windows live client. i get that same message constantly, AAAAAND my phone freezes up all the timne since it is constantly trying to sync 14k emails.
thats what i have thus far. the email works mostly. but the popup is crushing my soul.
any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
thanks guys,
jason
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You need an option in the setup to only have it pull from the last week or less off the server. Otherwise there is no way that I know of besides deleting all of your old emails on hotmail to keep it from pulling everything on their server, which will crash your phone depending on how many emails you have on there. Window's Mobile setup lets you pick how many days worth you need when setting up Yahoo.
Did you log in to the hotmail website? I know they made some changes recently to an Exchange server format. I know that with my exchange account it doesn't give me the option. It pulls everything off the server. So I move old emails to a folder that I created on my local hard drive and move them every week or so.
Is there an option to move emails to a folder on your local hard drive in Hotmail? OR maybe you can set it up on the website so that it only pulls a few days worth?
Found this article: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/zdnet-uk-first-take-10013312/hotmail-exchange-activesync-10018413/
ahhh haaa!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...89-af2e-41f9-a175-f93e1377959f&displayLang=en
no idea if this will work. probably not but at least im not taking crazy pills here.
jason370 said:
ahhh haaa!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...89-af2e-41f9-a175-f93e1377959f&displayLang=en
no idea if this will work. probably not but at least im not taking crazy pills here.
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Yep. I bet you can set it up in that program. Either a local hard drive folder to move your old emails to or set it up to pull from a certain number of days. Now you are cooking with grease...
crisisinthecity said:
Yep. I bet you can set it up in that program. Either a local hard drive folder to move your old emails to or set it up to pull from a certain number of days. Now you are cooking with grease...
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its showing up in my exhange mail on my pc, but im not seeing any folder option for the exchange mail on my hd2. can multiple exchane mail accts be set up on the hd2? not sure im doing any better here,
argh.
jason
Use exchange setup. Works great for me!.
jason370 said:
its showing up in my exhange mail on my pc, but im not seeing any folder option for the exchange mail on my hd2. can multiple exchane mail accts be set up on the hd2? not sure im doing any better here,
argh.
jason
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Pretty sure you can't have two exchange accounts on the phone.
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Pretty sure you can't have two exchange accounts on the phone.
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that would seem to be the case. argh