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I recently purchased a Nexus One and its running FRG83. Im coming from a rooted droid incredible with CM but the rooting process for the N1 seems to be very different. I have searched High and low for a straight answer as to how to root the N1 but haven't found a detailed solution yet. The Nexus One I bought is unlocked. Do I need to Unlock the boot loader to obtain root? Is the Boot loader like N.A.N.D. on some of the other HTC phones?, Im confused. Also is their a 1 click root method? I rather use that or any other methods before using ADB. I suspect that it seems difficult to find a rooting method for FRG83 because many people have already rooted. Also what might be the latest radio and hboot? Also any help for the N1 would be appreciated XD. I know the Nexus s might release but I still love the N1. XD
Latest radio is 5.12, latest HBOOT is .35
Do you have a padlock on the splash screen? If so fastboot over your preferred custom recovery and use that to install the SU binaries.
If not, there's a few one click solutions such as SuperOneClick, VISIONary+ and Z4root.
As you're on FRG83, you can expect an update to the .35 HBOOT (assuming you don't already have it) and FRG83D.
Rusty! said:
Latest radio is 5.12, latest HBOOT is .35
Do you have a padlock on the splash screen? If so fastboot over your preferred custom recovery and use that to install the SU binaries.
If not, there's a few one click solutions such as SuperOneClick, VISIONary+ and Z4root.
As you're on FRG83, you can expect an update to the .35 HBOOT (assuming you don't already have it) and FRG83D.
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What do you mean a padlock on the splash screen? I ve never herd of that ?
You know when it boots up you have a static, multi-coloured X? If the bootloader was unlocked, you'd have a padlock beneath it.
mikeacela said:
What do you mean a padlock on the splash screen? I ve never herd of that ?
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Like this, the unlock pad lock mean unlock bootloader
O, Ok i see what you are saying. As I am booting the phone, the padlock is not there. Im guessing that the bootloader isnt unlocked?
Im sorry, My nexus is actually running FRG83D. My mistake. What should be my first course of action?
Reading the Wiki.
mikeacela said:
Im sorry, My nexus is actually running FRG83D. My mistake. What should be my first course of action?
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One click root does not work on FRG83D. I used this thread to successfully root FRG83D using rageagainstthecage.
Jack_R1 said:
Reading the Wiki.
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This.
This crap is all explained in the wiki or other forums posts.
PLEASE search BEFORE asking.
GldRush98 said:
This.
This crap is all explained in the wiki or other forums posts.
PLEASE search BEFORE asking.
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I did. I have been looking for a week. I havent seen a straight forward answer. I rather list another post than break my uninsured Nexus one. I dont care how mad you are. What you posted doesn't help me and which defeats the purpose of the forums. Im looking for answers to my inquired problem and situation not your feelings.
If you read the Wiki and can't see the "Root" guide, or don't understand what's written there - you shouldn't be rooting your phone. As simple as that.
The same goes for the rest of your questions, too. Read, and if in doubt - read some more, ALL the info is out there.
OK, i recently got the OTA update for 2.3.4 on my T-mobile mytouch 4g. I was temp rooted, as to get my feet wet because I was new to root and the whole android system. I temp rooted with z4root. Can anyone post updates for anything on rooting 2.3.4+? This thread can be for all updates, or for just you guys to help me. You choose, but can you at least help me? thank you!
billcosby41 said:
OK, i recently got the OTA update for 2.3.4 on my T-mobile mytouch 4g. I was temp rooted, as to get my feet wet because I was new to root and the whole android system. I temp rooted with z4root. Can anyone post updates for anything on rooting 2.3.4+? This thread can be for all updates, or for just you guys to help me. You choose, but can you at least help me? thank you!
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it will be available when the devs find out a way to s-off. just be patient.
as of now, downgrade to 2.2.1 to root and s-off.
OK thanks. Do you have any estimate on when it will be available? If not, then ok thank you for your information
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OK thanks. Do you have any estimate on when it will be available? If not, then ok thank you for your information
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no i don't sorry.
OK. Do you have a link on how to downgrade?
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OK. Do you have a link on how to downgrade?
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912#
i'm not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
Just like he said the best way is to downgrade through that method. And perm root either by the advanced way cyanogen wrote up. Or more user friendly ones that just require terminal emulator and not adb. u can find any of them through basic searches or through the development section.
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912#
i'm not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
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1-click root like Z4root isn't available for any phone with Gingerbread 2.3.4 and up.
Judging by some posts on various boards, it won't ever be available, since developers aren't working on any such solution.
You can read some entertaining read:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...otloaders-rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html
And remember some things:
1) Since that time, Samsung and HTC has officially declared they aren't going to lock their bootloaders. Actually, Samsung kept it open all the way, and HTC declared they're going to unlock them starting this summer.
2) There was no easy root app for Gingerbread 2.3.4 ever made, even though an exploit exists that allows temp-rooting. Which means - there are no devs interested in making rooting easier than it currently is, or they're prevented from making rooting easier.
About devs not willing to make it stupid easy to root anymore - you might read Cyanogen's post somewhere, also from several months ago.
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
billcosby41 said:
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
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Gingerbreak does NOT work with mytouch 4G 2.3.4.
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Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
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To restate what Jack_R1 said. There is no root for gingerbread on this phone. It's simple enough to revert back to 2.2.1 and root once you are there.
[in my words]
If you afraid of ADB and the SKD, and you are to lazy to do some research, you shouldn't be rooting your phone anyway.
[/in my words]
now i took the time to put all of the basic information that you'll need in the newcomers thread. Link in my signature. Take your time read though that and you can root your phone. Regardless of the version you are using. And there is a link, with video, for you setting up your ADB.
Thank you all for replys. you can keep them coming if you wish.
neidlinger, in your signature, it says how to root with root.sh. Is this a perm root or temp root? And is it compatible with 2.3.4? How would I unroot?
EDIT: read on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?
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neidlinger, in your signature, it says how to root with root.sh. Is this a perm root or temp root? And is it compatible with 2.3.4? How would I unroot?
EDIT: read on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?
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In my signatures are methods to root 2.2.x. If you should read my Newcomers thread there is a link for rooting 2.3.4 devices.
Sorry...thank you for all your help. Can you confirm that my edit is correct? " Iread on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?"
billcosby41 said:
Sorry...thank you for all your help. Can you confirm that my edit is correct? " Iread on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?"
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froyo rom... you mean the PD151IMG.zip? if it's that, then yes, boot into hboot, and flash.
saranhai said:
froyo rom... you mean the PD151IMG.zip? if it's that, then yes, boot into hboot, and flash.
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YES!! How do i get into hboot?
EDIT: sorry, a simple google fixed it. And all i do is flash it, then im on stock froyo and can do any root i want? Will all my contacts and apps be saved and stuff?
Wait how do I flash a ROM from hboot? And afterwards, how do I get out of hboot? Sorry, I just want to be extremely sure I don't brick my phone or f**k it up in any possible way.
billcosby41 said:
Wait how do I flash a ROM from hboot? And afterwards, how do I get out of hboot? Sorry, I just want to be extremely sure I don't brick my phone or f**k it up in any possible way.
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well, once you have the PD151IMG.zip in the ROOT (not in any folders) of your sdcard, the bootloader/hboot should recognize it, and will ask you if you want to update. hit yes, and the rest will be done for you. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS, THIS WILL BRICK THE DEVICE. after that just reboot (first reboot should take longer than usual, it's normal)
if for some reason the bootloader/hboot isn't seeing your PD151IMG.zip, then redownload the zip again.
It did the no image thing... retry? My stats are:
Glacier PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.89.0005
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.11.04.03_M
eMMC-boot
Apr 14 2011,13:18:22
EDIT: I connected it to my computer, and the zip file is named PD15IMG and a lot of other things. Do I delete all of that and rename it PD15IMG.zip?
i currently have s-off and I am in 2.3.4.
i'm not rooted anymore but I want S-ON so i can sell or return this phone please help me out thanks?
DO i have to root the phone again?
killer174 said:
i currently have s-off and I am in 2.3.4.
i'm not rooted anymore but I want S-ON so i can sell or return this phone please help me out thanks?
DO i have to root the phone again?
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You can easily sell the phone with S-OFF. It can actually increase the value to so wanna be tech nerd who's too afraid to turn S-OFF himself.
Seriously go pick any phone and look them up on eBay. The rooted ones usually sell for more than the unrooted ones.
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You can easily sell the phone with S-OFF. It can actually increase the value to so wanna be tech nerd who's too afraid to turn S-OFF himself.
Seriously go pick any phone and look them up on eBay. The rooted ones usually sell for more than the unrooted ones.
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yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
killer174 said:
yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
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Download visionary r14 make sure delevopement is check in applications then click attempt permroot root. reboot then open terminal emulator type su if u get a # sign u have full root
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Tez MyTouch said:
Download visionary r14 make sure delevopement is check in applications then click attempt permroot root. reboot then open terminal emulator type su if u get a # sign u have full root
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i don't think visionary works with gingerbread 2.3.4? correct me if i'm wrong...
saranhai said:
i don't think visionary works with gingerbread 2.3.4? correct me if i'm wrong...
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oh total forgot he had gb. I seen s = off
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killer174 said:
yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
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How much if you dont mind me asking.. i wanted another mt4g, but now i'm looking to maybe get samsung galaxy s2 or nexus prime.. still researching..
jr_718 said:
How much if you dont mind me asking.. i wanted another mt4g, but now i'm looking to maybe get samsung galaxy s2 or nexus prime.. still researching..
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well I don't know....
how much do you want for it?
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well I don't know....
how much do you want for it?
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Honestly I don't know.. but I don't want to discourage your intended price. So if you post it at ebay.. post the link Here, otherwise, am still researching on the galaxy s2 or nexus prime...
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killer174 said:
yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
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Root it real quick!
All you need is to put the 2.2 PD15IMG.zip on your SD card and reboot into bootloader and you'll have a 2.2 phone pretty quick. Then you can run Visionary and you'll be set. Should take a total of 15 minutes, including the time to download 2.2 and Visionary.
Then you'll have a fully rooted S-Off phone to sell on eBay. Be sure to put that in big letters in the auction description.
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Root it real quick!
All you need is to put the 2.2 PD15IMG.zip on your SD card and reboot into bootloader and you'll have a 2.2 phone pretty quick. Then you can run Visionary and you'll be set. Should take a total of 15 minutes, including the time to download 2.2 and Visionary.
Then you'll have a fully rooted S-Off phone to sell on eBay. Be sure to put that in big letters in the auction description.
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That won't work... You can't downgrade to 2.2.1 through the PD15IMG file
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This is the thread you need if you have S-OFF already and want to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200147
The first PD15IMG.zip in that thread gives you Clockwork Recovery, and then you can boot into that to apply the Superuser zip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828
Also if you have S-Off already, you can downgrade to 2.2.1 using the appropriate RUU or PD15IMG.zip, and it won't care about version number.
And the instructions for reverting to S-ON from Gfree are here partway down in the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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That won't work... You can't downgrade to 2.2.1 through the PD15IMG file
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You can if you have the downgraded bootloader can't you? And if he's got S OFF I assumed the bootloader was already downgraded.
In any case, it's super easy to downgrade it and fully root it no matter what the steps are. And if it's rooted it's worth more on eBay
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You can if you have the downgraded bootloader can't you? And if he's got S OFF I assumed the bootloader was already downgraded.
In any case, it's super easy to downgrade it and fully root it no matter what the steps are. And if it's rooted it's worth more on eBay
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so can I downgrade to 2.2.1 even if I have 2.3.4 with S-OFF?
cmstlist said:
This is the thread you need if you have S-OFF already and want to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200147
The first PD15IMG.zip in that thread gives you Clockwork Recovery, and then you can boot into that to apply the Superuser zip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828
Also if you have S-Off already, you can downgrade to 2.2.1 using the appropriate RUU or PD15IMG.zip, and it won't care about version number.
And the instructions for reverting to S-ON from Gfree are here partway down in the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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I'm going to try to downgrade to 2.2.1 since i have s-off using the pdm15 file.
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That won't work... You can't downgrade to 2.2.1 through the PD15IMG file
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but I have S-OFF can I still downgrade?
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but I have S-OFF can I still downgrade?
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What's your bootloader version?
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saranhai said:
What's your bootloader version?
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0.85.2007 that is my bootloader
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0.85.2007 that is my bootloader
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does it say eng bootloader or something like that?
cause that sounds like the engineering bootloader if i'm not wrong. no wonder you got s-off...
saranhai said:
does it say eng bootloader or something like that?
cause that sounds like the engineering bootloader if i'm not wrong. no wonder you got s-off...
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oh wait it says HBOOT-0.89.0005
Phone has S-ON and 2.18.001. I just need the wifi tether app, so what exact steps should I take to get me only that app? Thanks.
You need root, please search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
Thanks. The problem I was having was did I only need S-Off or root or both. Also I didn't know about if I needed the watermark thing. So I needed info to allow me to get that wifi app and not any extra steps. Let me see what I can do.
brentkhack said:
Thanks. The problem I was having was did I only need S-Off or root or both. Also I didn't know about if I needed the watermark thing. So I needed info to allow me to get that wifi app and not any extra steps. Let me see what I can do.
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The easiest way to get Hotspot working is to actually pay for it . . . that being said:
You just need to unlock the bootloader using the HTCDev.com method, and install a custom recovery. You can then flash superuser, which will provide root access on your current ROM.
With the unlocked bootloader, you don't need to be S-OFF to get root.
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With the unlocked bootloader, you don't need to be S-OFF to get root.
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OK captain, I gotta ask. If you unlock bootloader, doesn't that create S-off state? I'm kinda confused by that bit of quote. I know you know more about this than probably anybody, so I'm just curious.
(I haven't messed with any of the new stuff, I still have .76 eng bootloader from 17mo ago, ...I'm only asking out of curiosity and trying to keep up)
Thanks
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After a few hours and help from here it is done. Thank you all.
scottspa74 said:
OK captain, I gotta ask. If you unlock bootloader, doesn't that create S-off state? I'm kinda confused by that bit of quote. I know you know more about this than probably anybody, so I'm just curious.
(I haven't messed with any of the new stuff, I still have .76 eng bootloader from 17mo ago, ...I'm only asking out of curiosity and trying to keep up)
Thanks
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Nope. Not with the HTCDev.com unlocking process. It'll show "UNLOCKED" at the top of HBOOT, but it will also still say "S-ON". And you can still have a custom recovery, and flash ROMs.
Hi, I've been trying to fully S-OFF my buddy's new MyTouch 4G Glacier that he ordered online. It has Android 2.3.4 and I was able to unlock bootloader and put clockworkmod touch recovery. But he wants a Rom and custom kernel. Flashing kernels won't work via fastboot or they do, but don't actually apply. I wanted to just fully Perm-S-OFF it with the guide in Dev thread, but the link to Visionary+ apk isn't working. I've searched n searched on XDA and Google. All links I find are either BS malware or 404'd lol. Does anyone have a copy of it I could get? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Drew
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Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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upncoming said:
Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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I actually went to his main link on his website/forum. But when you put in captcha, it just goes to broken link on his site. So he either took it down or moved it and hasn't changed link.. so yeh if u got latest r14 of it, I'd appreciate a link in my PM. Thanks for replying too!
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Whoops! That's ok. I've got another link to a different part of the modaco site. I tested and was able to download. I'll PM you in a minute.
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If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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romuloxiii said:
If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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I've actually already acquired root. Just need perm S-OFF. Guess I tech don't need temp-root with that visionary app, if I already have full root on 2.3.4, is it possible to run that PermS-OFF patch that is in Dev section? Or does it still need to be ran on Froyo ROM? Can flash ROM's
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Sorry, i guess i misunderstood. Im not sure about whether you need to be on Froyo to achieve s-off with visionary. it's worth a shot....cheers
It just occurred to me that i think i used the gfree method when i got s-off on my phone. You may want to consider trying that method if visionary won't work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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This is how bricks happen!
Ill wait for the I bricked by friends phone thread u will create later on.
Why can't you flash as is? Did you unlock the boot loader via HTC dev unlock? If so, you will need to relock it, then find the guides to downgrade to froyo, and then root from there...
Well my intention is not to give bad advice but rather state what worked for me. If this method can lead to a bricked device then i appologise for the bad info.
Cheers
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Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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thanks for the summery. very useful.
Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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I have achieved S-OFF a long time back and updated my ROM. I needed to use the terminal emulator the other day in super user mode but was denied SU access. Remembering back I had used visionary to obtain root and thus su access. Visionary no longer runs (it appears to lock up in a black screen) nor am I able su access.
How can one obtain su access after s-off has been achieved and the phone has downloaded an update?
su reports the su binary is out of date.
Thank you.
Update the su
binaries
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russellvone said:
Update the su
binaries
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Been looking for a method to do that for 4 hours. Any ideas where to look?
A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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It was a start, but not a finish and since it was in the development section, I was not allowed to respond to it.
For completeness after a dozen or so further hours of searching, this tool rooted my S-off phone.
w w w.androidauthority<dot>com/root-any-htc-phone-tablet-117724
(appears I am not allowed to post proper links either.)