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Will it be smooth like the ipad, when ics comes? Ive tried the overcome rom and there is still a bit a jerkiness/lagginess when using the screen capture function, exiting in and out, flipping through pages etc.
No. Get an ipad if smooth scrolling homescreens are the most important feature on a tablet for you.
3.2 will give you that smoothness. i use adw launcher ex and it pretty much fixed any lag. also recommend using spareparts+ to speed up opening window.
doesnt hurt to oc either
if you're not going to contribute then you can just keep ur post to yourself slack04
Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
Yes, ICS will bring hardware acceleration to the entire experience, should be a transformation.
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Answering the op question what lag? Sure if you have a slow device running top of the range os you will get lag
But since 3.2 I haven't seen any lag
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I think lag can be caused by many issues. For one, widgets with heavy graphics and constant refreshes can use up a lot of resources. There are also poorly made apps running in the background that may slow things down. I would just keep the homescreen as simple as possible if performance is a concern.
If ICS runs as smooth as it does on the Galaxy Nexus, yes, it will.
We will see it as soon as the first "complete" ROMs pop up, everything else is complete speculation.
3.2 made the tab a lot better, but still not completely lagfree in my opionion. Its response time varies from perfect (browser) to mediocre (app switcher - at least until its open).
Are you running on stock rom? I am running Task650 & Phantoms "In Paris" V5 OC'd to 1.4Gz with ADW launcher and it is pretty darn smooth even on Honeycomb 3.1. It will only get better with the 3.2 update coming in the near future. Check it out if you haven't already done so!
hardware acceleration in ICS improve performence allot , see alpha builds on the single core original galaxy tab 7 and HTC hd2 on youtube and you will see the big improvement in speed even with live wallpapers
Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
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But many companies don't bother with a good kernel. They pretty much use "Does it boot? Get it out the door" as a mantra.
The reason iOS is so smooth is because Apple tests devices for months and months to make sure the user experience is great. They put user experience over anything else, even features. I still get terrible lag on 3.2 while using my GT8.9. But hopefully ICS will fix that. But I won't bet money that all the lag will be gone. There's just not much optimization there, and throwing more cores at the software isn't going to fix that.
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Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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Same here, because of your ROM! OP, get on Task's ROM. And have a funeral for your tablet lag.
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Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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^^What he said...
Running GalaxyTask6.3 rom oc'd to 1.4ghz using adw ex launcher with boosted ics theme and it is SMOOTH as any apple device on the planet!
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Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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Nope task650 v6.3 is the way to go
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3.2 was a nice upgrade in speed but after using ICS on my galaxy nexus I really can't wait for it to come to the tab 10.1 in one form or another.
The Galaxy Nexus does feel much smoother. Not sure if it's the hardware acceleration or just tighter code, but I'm eager to get ICS on my tab.
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i'm getting lag when flipping page's & application's as well .
Hey guys.
Must say for early stages ICS looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to the stable version by Codeworkx and team.
My opinion though is that i still find Gingerbread pretty solid and has all the features i need still. Yes ICS is still in early stages. But there are still few features that i can not leave without just yet. And plus battery life of course is a major issue for me so when kernel sources are released i am sure we shall see an influx of kernels to tackle the problem as it was in the early days of Gingerbread on our gorgeous phones.
Question here is...Do you guys find it worth the jump even on early stages or are you sticking with Gingerbread as it is still stable and you have all the features you can ask for till the gorgeous CM9 gets more stable? Also what would you like from Gingerbread to be on ICS
Thanks
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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Well I'm most likely the wrong person to answer that, having come from the original SGS since only the last 2 days. And no, I don't think that it's not a good enough reason to revert to GB for Voodoo LOUDER when I'm actually giving it a fair thought of going back to the SGS1 for Voodoo Sound...
I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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Well cyanogenmod 9 is stable enough for my tastes. And once media is fixed I think it's good enough
New multi tasking is sweet. But there are some nice addition here and there like a new voice system which I'm using now. Or do you mean
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I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
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Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you and me giggling at the various topics of stuttering paid alternative launchers, and buggy custom AOSP roms, but they are mostly silent.
I think its great they are there, because it can lead to new insights, but so far for me stock + TW + a mild Jkay-theme hit the sweet spot for almost everything this phone can do for me.
Opinion its a leaked test rom and not ICS release who knows what will change .
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Ive been trying out the cm9 alpha for a while now and am liking it. Got it setup virtually the same as my KK5 daily.
With cm9 I don't need voodoo louder and my a2dp streaming sounds better.
But.....
I could easily go back to KK5 odexed which I have setup the way I like it. Jkay mods, frozen apps, voodoo louder, etc.
I use go launcher ex, go sms pro and poweramp on both so mostly my user interface is the same.
Found since sgs1 that I like the 3rd party apps more than stock. Thats the beauty of android I guess.
Im ok with both as a daily so far.
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One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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+1 I watch YouTube vids on a daily basis lol. They have a done a great job with ICS so far though
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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Same here. ICS is very good and I urge all to give CM9 a try. Of course we cannot mod, theme etc.. at this stage but to be frank there is no need to. Great sensible UI coupled with a very smooth and snappy scrolling and other animations makes it a perfect ROM for a common user. If you are too much into theming, tweaking etc.. stay away from CM9 at the moment until a stable one comes out.
Not much of a battery drain also. Maybe 10% more than stock GB.
ICS KP8
CM9
No thanks no advantage over what i have at present .
Yes to supposed specs when ICS is actually released .
jje
I tested for 2 days the ICS and I must say that the samsung team it's on the good way. ICS will be a wonderful OS to run on SGS2. They still have a lot of bugs to fix, but there are just leaks. We must wait for some official releases.
At the moment you can use ICS just to explore some of the goodies that will be present in the future for our phones. We will have to keep gingerbread for a while
Personally, I want to see the weather on lockscreen fully implemented in the next builds
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
Personally I don't find ICS the revolutionary change that some people were hyping around. It's an improvement, but not super.
And +1 to the people who mentioned the media part. Once it's fixed I might go to CM9.
And frankly I don't find Trebechet launcher on CM9 smoother than Touchwiz on Gingerboard :/
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theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
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I am totally agree with Dzel.
Since ICS alpha(not even beta) version. its no good to compare stable GB version.
Again CM9 is much better than CM7.
I am running cm9 as my daily now as most remaining issues are not so important.
I was before on cm7 with Siyah kernel, and honestly, everything was really running smooth. I do not see any big improvment in ICS, and in that point, I am a litle disapointed.
I will stick to cm9 as ICs is now the developped OS, but I was waiting for more big changes from Google.
A litle bit like diff between OSX 10.3, .4, .5 etc etc. No real big changes.
Well,as expected,since i already had ICS on my phone for like 2 months, the ASUS ICE CREAM is a dream come true.(i am not gonna comment about whining noobs who dont even know how to install a clean system).
Now i see the light,i see why the tablets are the future, i feel the smoothness of instant typing in all kind of web pages,the stability of the system (i get a 2600 quadrant score with stock rooted rom but after i have manually removed lots of useless asus bloatware in system, and optimised the kernel and system with rom toolbox).
My thoughts are,what about honeycomb?
I bought the tablet so as to replace my netbook and laptop and profit from all the benefits of android system in a powerfull system.I was not that stupid to think that a tablet is a netbook but....honeycomb made my tablet go on the shelf for like 2 months.
I refused to keep using a device that was not working the way it was advertised.
I tried everything with the abysmal honeycomb. Stock,all the custom roms,all the kernels,all the tips,you name it.
In every 10-20 minutes i aways had one problem.A force close of the browser,white blocks (bbrrrrrr), slow system out of nowhere etc...
So,why they even released a bad written software? Just to keep on with the apple fan boys?
As a consumer,how can we be protected again in future attempts of delivering a malfunctioning product?
Could you even go a legal road?
They say that the all mighty ICS is not absorbed in every device and that google will try to get jelly bean sooner.
What if jelly bean is a new Honeycomb?
Do we have a formal voice and maybe a refund or anything against those kind of politics or we have only the great xda to whine about in a forum post...?
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Me, unlike you, have returned to HC. ICS is buggy and tons of apps forclose or simply are not even supported yet.
The dev support is just starting, Kernel has not been released, so no OC or UV yet.
In 2 months or less this will change. But until then HC is the better choice.
I think you'll end up putting your device on the shelf again. ICS is a bit smoother but the things it does are the exact same. It is not a miracle upgrade. It is not completly new. It is not bringing you some new exp. that you couldn't have gotten on HC.
/shrug
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Me, unlike you, have returned to HC. ICS is buggy and tons of apps forclose or simply are not even supported yet.
The dev support is just starting, Kernel has not been released, so no OC or UV yet.
In 2 months or less this will change. But until then HC is the better choice.
I think you'll end up putting your device on the shelf again. ICS is a bit smoother but the things it does are the exact same. It is not a miracle upgrade. It is not completly new. It is not bringing you some new exp. that you couldn't have gotten on HC.
/shrug
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You are semi-correct. On the tablet HC to ICS isn't that big of a jump, but Gb to ICS on the phone end is a huge jump.
This is going to be more of a one OS for all devices, starting with ICS. Instead of having 2.1 compatible but not 3.2 compatible, everything will be compatible, we'll just see Phone, Tablet or TV variants of the same app. Like IMDb, it looks different on my HTC Glacier, than it does on my TF101, than on my Logitech Revue.
ICS is just a stepping stone, nothing more, nothing less.
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You are semi-correct. On the tablet HC to ICS isn't that big of a jump, but Gb to ICS on the phone end is a huge jump.
This is going to be more of a one OS for all devices, starting with ICS. Instead of having 2.1 compatible but not 3.2 compatible, everything will be compatible, we'll just see Phone, Tablet or TV variants of the same app. Like IMDb, it looks different on my HTC Glacier, than it does on my TF101, than on my Logitech Revue.
ICS is just a stepping stone, nothing more, nothing less.
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I think you'll see jelly bean before you get consistency. I could be wrong and hope I am.
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I think you'll see jelly bean before you get consistency. I could be wrong and hope I am.
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I've seen a lot of reports that are saying its ICS, they could be wrong/I could be wrong, But i will say this. When i'm running ICS on my Glacier, Apps [in the market] that show up that didn't before. more specifically, tablet apps show up.
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Me, unlike you, have returned to HC. ICS is buggy and tons of apps forclose or simply are not even supported yet.
The dev support is just starting, Kernel has not been released, so no OC or UV yet.
In 2 months or less this will change. But until then HC is the better choice.
I think you'll end up putting your device on the shelf again. ICS is a bit smoother but the things it does are the exact same. It is not a miracle upgrade. It is not completely new. It is not bringing you some new exp. that you couldn't have gotten on HC.
/shrug
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I have -bought- over 500 apps and counting.I have installed all of them,not counting the free apps i use from amazon appstore and only one stupid quotes app and 2-3 g5 entertainment games are not compatible.
How you have problems with ICS is still a mystery to me,since im stating facts.
Imagine the kernel source out and a month to devs,what our eyes have to see.
The ICS is so good that i dont miss custom roms at all and that says something.
The return to the laggy HC with the practically unusable dock keyboard which you wrote one word and the second letter was first and the first letter was second,is even a greater mystery to me.
I hope that google learned from the mistakes of the past and i hope i will never see a honeycomb software again.
Corporations should learn to respect costumers and not doing a 100m race.
ICS is a very good start...
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karapoutsoglou said:
I have -bought- over 500 apps and counting.I have installed all of them,not counting the free apps i use from amazon appstore and only one stupid quotes app and 2-3 g5 entertainment games are not compatible.
How you have problems with ICS is still a mystery to me,since im stating facts.
Imagine the kernel source out and a month to devs,what our eyes have to see.
The ICS is so good that i dont miss custom roms at all and that says something.
The return to the laggy HC with the practically unusable dock keyboard which you wrote one word and the second letter was first and the first letter was second,is even a greater mystery to me.
I hope that google learned from the mistakes of the past and i hope i will never see a honeycomb software again.
Corporations should learn to respect costumers and not doing a 100m race.
ICS is a very good start...
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GTA 3 sometimes loads. Sometimes does not.
Peggle loads and dies.
New Game on Nvidia meltdown to mars - Loads and is buggy.
Need for Speed - Any of them. Won't load. Die
I could continue..
All the above running perfectly on HC.
Your 500 apps must be useless ones. At least to me.
ICS will be fine in a month or so. Its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I personally do not have "issues" with HC. It runs smoothly. No reason to update until I can OC, UV, and play the games I like...
But hey, Thats just me. No reason you can't love ICS.
I tried the ICS build from Asus but it seems half-baked to me. The Quick Settings look terrible too. I ended up going back to Prime! 2.1.1 because it just seems more polished to me, and the performance and functionality isn't that different.
Once Roach finishes up his ICS ROM, I imagine thats what I'll be using. His stuff just seems so much more finished feeling.
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GTA 3 sometimes loads. Sometimes does not.
Peggle loads and dies.
New Game on Nvidia meltdown to mars - Loads and is buggy.
Need for Speed - Any of them. Won't load. Die
I could continue..
All the above running perfectly on HC.
Your 500 apps must be useless ones. At least to me.
ICS will be fine in a month or so. Its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I personally do not have "issues" with HC. It runs smoothly. No reason to update until I can OC, UV, and play the games I like...
But hey, Thats just me. No reason you can't love ICS.
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This is a tablet made for doing a variety of things. not just playing games.
And have you ever thought that your issue lays with the developers for not supporting ICS. Google pushes a source code, Manufacturers and 3rd party developers create Operating Systems for us to enjoy. It's the app creators to make sure their apps run with the newest OS.
All of the apps that i use on my Tablet, work perfectly on ICS. I have no reason to resort back to Hc.
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This is a tablet made for doing a variety of things. not just playing games.
And have you ever thought that your issue lays with the developers for not supporting ICS. Google pushes a source code, Manufacturers and 3rd party developers create Operating Systems for us to enjoy. It's the app creators to make sure their apps run with the newest OS.
All of the apps that i use on my Tablet, work perfectly on ICS. I have no reason to resort back to Hc.
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It says in^ its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I dont call it resorting. i call it getting full functionality. I prefer everything working, I prefer running at 1.5ghz, and I prefer Undervolting. Battery = forever lasting....
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It says in^ its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I dont call it resorting. i call it getting full functionality. I prefer everything working, I prefer running at 1.5ghz, and I prefer Undervolting. Battery = forever lasting....
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To each his own, i like living on the EDGE. Not that i need to, but i like being at the forefront.
tweaked said:
GTA 3 sometimes loads. Sometimes does not.
Peggle loads and dies.
New Game on Nvidia meltdown to mars - Loads and is buggy.
Need for Speed - Any of them. Won't load. Die
I could continue..
All the above running perfectly on HC.
Your 500 apps must be useless ones. At least to me.
ICS will be fine in a month or so. Its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I personally do not have "issues" with HC. It runs smoothly. No reason to update until I can OC, UV, and play the games I like...
But hey, Thats just me. No reason you can't love ICS.
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GTA runs perfectly and no issues. Meltdown i have downloaded this afternoon and have not used it yet(quite a gamer you are).
But lets forget games and stuff,what do you thing of the internet experience? what do you think about browsing? Is it better worse or the same as HC?
And what about office apps? Are they snappier and faster than HC or the same? or worse?.....
Can you write a big text comfortably in a web page in ICS or do you finger cross not to have force closes and white blocks and lose 40 minutes of your life cause there is no lazarus add on?
Do you feel comfotable to work office in HC or ICS?
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For me browsing on ICS is so good, I almost stopped browsing on my computer.
I'm one of the folks that apparently has fully functioning ICS. I have no complaints. But by the above post, there was no way ICS was every going to remotely live up to your expectations. I like OC my tablet as well, but I never had the expectation that Asus would deliver me a stock rom that would do so. I mean do disrespect or criticism to anyone not happy with ICS. But let's just face it, this update had big expectations and hype and could have done everything perfectly and people would still not like it. Nothing that has a certain level of hype or expectation ever lives up to it, be it a tablet OS or anything else. That said ICS is great for me, I have no complaints thus far, and hope that others with problems get them solved, so that they can enjoy their tablet as much as me.
Ill1 I'm with you. Maybe I'm just lucky or we with great working ICS did something different or better, but everything is just peachy on my end.
I have one little bug with the camera, if you have a pin or pattern lock screen setup then switching from camera to panoramic doesn't initiate the camera and eventually fc's.
But my GTA 3 works so do all my other apps. Things are generally smoother and faster.
Next stop is trying to root this thing using Ubuntu so I can be ready to put CM9 on it whenever it comes out
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I tried the ICS build from Asus but it seems half-baked to me. The Quick Settings look terrible too. I ended up going back to Prime! 2.1.1 because it just seems more polished to me, and the performance and functionality isn't that different.
Once Roach finishes up his ICS ROM, I imagine thats what I'll be using. His stuff just seems so much more finished feeling.
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You can turn off the ugly Asus menu in the settings, under Asus customized setting.
ICS for me has been flawless, I dont know what some of you did to screw it up so bad. If you updated without wiping then dont complain about bugginess, do it the right way and then see ifyou have issues.
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GTA runs perfectly and no issues. Meltdown i have downloaded this afternoon and have not used it yet(quite a gamer you are).
But lets forget games and stuff,what do you thing of the internet experience? what do you think about browsing? Is it better worse or the same as HC?
And what about office apps? Are they snappier and faster than HC or the same? or worse?.....
Can you write a big text comfortably in a web page in ICS or do you finger cross not to have force closes and white blocks and lose 40 minutes of your life cause there is no lazarus add on?
Do you feel comfotable to work office in HC or ICS?
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I love ICS. But I need to be able to fiddle with settings and stuff. Its an addiction. Once a kernal is available I'll jump for good. And I also have a back up of the ICS with all my installs and a copy of the kernel so I can jump back and forth. I love Chrome.
I use a third party keyboard I don't have typing issues. I just saying, HC isn't terrible. Infact I would say its a bit more stable as of right now. /shrug
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I love ICS. But I need to be able to fiddle with settings and stuff. Its an addiction. Once a kernal is available I'll jump for good. And I also have a back up of the ICS with all my installs and a copy of the kernel so I can jump back and forth. I love Chrome.
I use a third party keyboard I don't have typing issues. I just saying, HC isn't terrible. Infact I would say its a bit more stable as of right now. /shrug
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i wait a custom kernel (blades hopefully) too, anxiously....
cant imagine the experience with a moddest overclock and some kernel goodies as add ons...
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I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.
Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".
What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!
I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!
So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. I remember GB was a lot faster than ICS, but geez I did not remember it being this fast. EVERYTHING opens and closes quicker, touch responsiveness is amazing, screens swipe lightning quick, and I'm sorry, even though I did realize ICS improved battery life a little bit from my initial impressions, GB is giving me better battery life than most of the ICS roms I have used. Most importantly to me though, my phone has simply just become more of a joy to use. And less of CHORE. ICS makes texting a pain in the ass. And not only that, but basically doing anything, browsing, having to constantly re-press anything, scrolling.......omg scrolling. Going down your facebook newsfeed is definitely a chore on ICS. Seeing as it goes up a little, half the time you scroll down. But typing is probably the biggest thing for me, since I text a decent amount. I even installed the same GB keyboard I'd used on gingerbread roms (it's a modified stock gb keyboard called "gingerbread keyboard") which I had been able to type so quick and so accuretly with (except for the occasional double letter that the keyboard puts in), but on ICS it was just as inaccurate as any other crap keyboard I'd try out. You just have to type slowwwww, and press hard. Who the hell wants to use their phone like an old person? I sure don't. ICS makes my phone a chore to use.
I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
Things I'd be missing from ICS: brightness minimum and maximum (having a lower min is really appreciated in my room at night - some later GB roms have this implemented though), the updated Gallery (soo much better on ICS), some features that are nice to have but I don't really change anyway (screen mode, gamma sensitivity, etc.), Chome (LOL jk, chrome sucks **** on mobile), better default video player, having my phone say 4.03, 4.04, or 4.1.1 that's about it. Lemme know some other things you'd miss from ICS if you were to revert back.
Also, I have tried most roms for ICS, ranging from AOKP, AOSP based roms, CM9, Sammywiz ones, MIUI variations. Just for reference, I've tried Shishir, Ressurection AOKP, Foxhound's roms, Basically all of Kaffee's roms, cMIUI, RGUI, AdyScorp's V4, AOKP official, Rootbox, etc. My favorite of those personally was probably Ressurection, and cMIUI. Not a huge fan of AOKP (or the wole CM interface), so cMIUI a bit more.
Btw, the GB rom I'm referring to is AdyScorpius' MIUI GB. Fastest rom I've ever used, period. Battery life from what I remember was not even that good (I mean it's MIUI) even compared to other MIUI's. So considering that I'm noticing it to be on par, if not better than ICS I was running, is noteworthy.
Lay your comments down below.
EDIT: Oh and I've tried a few JB roms already, including CM10, Kaffee's CM10, and X-treme's CM10 based rom. To be honest it's really smooth (coming from ICS though), however it's wayyy too early in the game to compare it to GB for me. To be quite honest, it's really smooth and relatively fast, but since it's still based on ICS, I doubt it will ever feel as good as GB.
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. [...] I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
We already had these kind of threads before
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I downgraded from ics back to GB 2.3.4 due to ics bugs, lag on the touch screen (sometimes felt like a resistive screen) jerky swipes between home screens, black screen of death, random shut down and disappearing widgets. Like the op says, GB was a revelation again and the galaxy feels reliable, responsive and fast again. I'm staying put now till next year when my contact ends, I came from iPhone to android and maybe it will be wp8 next, or maybe a galaxy s3.....
I miss the face unlock, swipe to dismiss notifications and the task manager of ics, that's about all
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I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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I'm hoping the same thing man haha. But honestly I'm not having my hopes up anymore. I know that the CM10 preview builds don't have HW Accelerator working, and that the sensitivity does seem a bit better than ICS (more in the 'ok-eh' category instead of 'bad' like ICS), but I've seen a couple builds that claim to have HW Acceleration working, so if that makes a drastic improvement we'll see. Honestly I thought when ICS came out that it was just early in developemnt and that they'd work out the jags and stuff....yeah no. It's 3 months later and performance-wise it's relatively similar. AOKP has gotten much smoother though, but there's only so much you can do.
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
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I really appreciate your comments, especially coming from someone who has experience with kernels, it gives the whole discussion a little more validity. Wake lag is definitely annoying, honestly that's one of those things that by itself, you would think could be dismissed, but when added to the touch sensitivty, and sluggishness, just makes you think..what the hell.
Btw I was actually looking at WIUI last night by chance and also saw that he actually is updating his GB version. I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's got a 6.29 version out, and in the comments he said he would do 8.4 (around there). I'll probably flash that, as my April GB rom is probably really outdated....hah.
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Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
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I agree with you that it probably would have made a lot more people happy had they stuck with a thoroughly upgraded GB instead of making a new platform. However although ICS sucks performance-wise (interface, anyway), it is actually pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you notice while restoring text messages or installing something via titanium backup, or shutting off your phone, things run quicker on ICS. ICS is more efficient, for sure. Which is why I hate even more how it is, because it has potential but for some reason still just completely sucks.
I'm gonna have to rant on google: *these are new thoughts just realized a minute ago* Google is definitely behind the ball in terms of what they're releasing. Google has always been out of touch with the people[/B. I'm only 20 but I was able to pick this up over the last couple years. They suck at knowing what people want, or at least are too hung up with their own projections that they don't see the people in which they're serving. You can tell google doesn't know what they're doing because you see it in everything they do. Example 1) Changing Android Market to Google Play Store. Obviously, there are plenty of reasons for them to do that (main probably being to get their name out - not everyone knows android is google based, and also to put all their apps into one [google music, google books, ect]), but they could have done that without changing the name to something EVERYONE HATES. Example 2) Google chrome (desktop). I use Chrome on my home PC. It's really fast. Other than that, I hate everything about it. The interface is styled, but looks like it was organized by an amateur, and is poorly structured. Functinoality is splintered and not well thought out. Firefox beats it in every single category, except for performance. Wish I could go back to firefox. Example 3) Chrome (Mobile), this app is unstable, and probably the slowest browser on the market...and yet it is the only video playing browser available on JB (no flash anymore)... Firefox BETA is 300% more stable than chrome's Non Beta app.
GB was fine, but ICS's regression is total bull (and I'm not talking to official update - samsung), and honestly as mentioned above it is just debasing them for the future. Honestly, I had an itouch for a couple years, and have used countless friends iphones over the years, so I know what it's like. Just the simple fact that going back to MIUI GB has made me the happiest I've been in a while...is saying something. I hate to be the ass who brings up negative things, but if they had been doing things right in the first place, things wouldn't have to be mentioned. I'm not too picky, but I do demand quality. Although I've never even considered it in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what they're rolling out for the iphone 5, cus it may actually make a difference in my next phone.
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I saw one, but it does not discuss the same thing..it meerly has the same subject. This thread heads in a much different direction, also the former post is outdated with the progression of ICS currently.
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i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
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You may find one! I know finding official releases past 4.x.x is hard. WIUI is pulling from somewhere though, I know that. Could be it's all just his own input.
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The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I know ICS has better range for WIFI, other than that I don't know the actual differences.
*Sorry for long post*
It is not the range, it is wpa2 thing...
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
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Lol I hope you're not trolling. Honestly I doubt GB has much of anything that ICS doesn't have. Except ICS option menu is dumb (although samsung's gb is RETARDED), and GB has more simple, intuitive button layout (delete, menu key layout, etc.)
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i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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Lol I hope you're not trolling.
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
after brick my phone with the so called chip bug and change the mb after paying 100 with the same chip with a bug, flashing XWLPO and then XWLPT I decided to go back to 2.3.4. My battery last +2 days (everything disabled and underclocked) and everything looks smooth enogh for me. If you want a cool interface like ICS has (I see no reason at all to run ICS other than the interface) just install the free version of Go Launcher
Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
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Good to hear it :good:
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Oh I gotcha. Yeah honestly stock camera blows all the other cameras away. Stock ICS camera is pretty decent too, but the button on stock gb is the best. feels more secure, and focus is instantaneous with press. MIUI (GB) is decent too except I found the quality a little worse and instant focus a little less accurate. Anti-shake is terrible on MIUI camera too.
Wow GB. Amazing memories .I think the best GB was XXKI4. But what can I know... I had GB for 2 or 3 months since this year's winter and then Boom! Boot loop. You know why guys?? I had brand XWKI4 and there were battery mods for XXKI4.So I flashed those ;p. And then came XXLPS.Now I am on LQ7 but It's not the same. Thanks bro I was waiting for man wich will lead me to GB. BTW first rom for SGS2 is XWKDD so?! Coman guys we have Gingerbread to flash
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can someone link the "best" (in his eyes) gb roms ?
i would love to try a few if they are really faster than ics (smoother).
was so close to try cm10 but so much stuff needs to be fixed...
for me the most important thing would be cam and a smooth feeling.
and can i use nova launcher prime on gb (is it looking the same?)
i never tried gb (my s2 came with ics, so....)
I haven't used GB since I got my S2, but I used it exclusively on my original S. When I moved from phone to phone I found the speed increase of GB on an S to ICS on my S2 simply mind blowing. I know it's nearly a 200% processor boost, but still. Now I'm using JellyBean. I get a full day of near constant use with an extended battery. (I'm a teen, we text all the time, so it gets a pretty heavy workout.) and the speed BLOWS AWAY Gingerbread and ICS without question.
So no, I don't miss it personally. And I'm using SwiftKey, which is an absolute dream. Way better than any stock kb I've ever used.
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